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Jul 12, 2017 2:38 AM
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Shark seems to be having it well.
 
 
Jul 12, 2017 9:28 AM
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Honestly, the show was going into a good direction. The meta recap episode was pure genius. And then you give me characters like Suruga spouting stupidities like, "No matter what happens to the world, it won't affect what we do?" If the world ends, you're gonna die and not be able to do anything anymore. If they had made these characters skeptical of the whole thing, I might buy into it, but having believe the situation and then be indifferent to it because "only my work as an artist matters" is borderline trash writing. I'm sorry, but I really can't have the slightest sympathy for characters that are so self-centered they would let a truck drive over them than stop what they are doing to consider the world around them. If the story's intention was to take a deeper look into the relations between characters, creators and the real world around them, it should have avoided the "world destruction" plot. Because, when you have the fate of the world at stake, I very much doubt anyone would be so carefree as those characters and believe even less the government would allow them to be so. If martial law is not enough motivation, try holding their families hostages or something. When literally the world will be destroyed if they don't win, the end obviously justifies any means necessary. And having them play nice in the end feels totally contrived. They are either rational people who behave according to the situation or selfish morons. They can't be both.
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Jul 12, 2017 4:09 PM
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Mamika has already been replaced


We need a new pink hair! lol
 
Jul 12, 2017 7:29 PM
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ikarishinji49 said:
And then you give me characters like Suruga spouting stupidities like, "No matter what happens to the world, it won't affect what we do?" If the world ends, you're gonna die and not be able to do anything anymore.


Nobody quite knows what is going to happen including us who have seen everything that is supposed to matter and there's been nothing that happened to demonstrate the potential of a great destruction so far so it's not her fault if she chooses not to care about it at all.
 
Jul 12, 2017 7:34 PM
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Mamika has already been replaced


We need a new pink hair! lol


From the trailer, it looks like her power might literally be to make others fall head-over-heels for her.
 
 
Jul 13, 2017 1:13 AM
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Cour_Victor said:
ikarishinji49 said:
And then you give me characters like Suruga spouting stupidities like, "No matter what happens to the world, it won't affect what we do?" If the world ends, you're gonna die and not be able to do anything anymore.


Nobody quite knows what is going to happen including us who have seen everything that is supposed to matter and there's been nothing that happened to demonstrate the potential of a great destruction so far so it's not her fault if she chooses not to care about it at all.


As I said, if they were shown as skeptical of the whole thing (perfectly understandable), it would be OK. But it didn't look like that to me. It looked like the one-dimensional take on a character that only cares about one thing in the world (namely, her drawings), and I really dislike that kind of character. I started watching this anime because the premise was interesting and they seemed to be avoiding the stereotypical characters. Shirobako, for instance, has a truckload of characters and none of them are this kind of one-personality-trait character.
 
Jul 13, 2017 2:10 AM
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ikarishinji49 said:
Cour_Victor said:


Nobody quite knows what is going to happen including us who have seen everything that is supposed to matter and there's been nothing that happened to demonstrate the potential of a great destruction so far so it's not her fault if she chooses not to care about it at all.


As I said, if they were shown as skeptical of the whole thing (perfectly understandable), it would be OK. But it didn't look like that to me. It looked like the one-dimensional take on a character that only cares about one thing in the world (namely, her drawings), and I really dislike that kind of character. I started watching this anime because the premise was interesting and they seemed to be avoiding the stereotypical characters. Shirobako, for instance, has a truckload of characters and none of them are this kind of one-personality-trait character.


I'm not gonna argue if a character is one dimensional or not since everyone has their own convictions but Suruga is not at fault for being along the ride as a desentesized individual as a character. She is presented through her work.



ikarishinji49 said:
When literally the world will be destroyed if they don't win, the end obviously justifies any means necessary. And having them play nice in the end feels totally contrived. They are either rational people who behave according to the situation or selfish morons. They can't be both.


The show doesn't overdramatize anything other than battles, it didn't give Selesia an existential crisis or any of the creations when it could. It was the same when it got Rui up to speed back in episode 5 or had the government briefing they had in the same episode. They kept functioning as they used to with the added information about the revelation that anime is in fact real.

Besides there is no point in stressing out the creators. The key is to keep everything going like they always did before so that the audience doesn't realise something fishy or out of the ordinary is going on. They won't be paying attention to the powerups the protagonists will get if they are aware that they are really out there for a fight.
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Jul 13, 2017 8:27 AM

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Lol, Suruga speaks in Kansai dialect.
 
Jul 13, 2017 8:11 PM

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Skipped OP.

A decent episode, seems like the pacing may start to pick itself up, though hopefully with the inclusion of new characters, it doesn't take a step back.
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Jul 14, 2017 6:15 AM
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I'm starting to get immersed into the story!
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Jul 14, 2017 10:23 AM
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I watched this episode yesterday and I've already forgot half of what happened. I know I'm not the only one to say this but this anime really needs to get the thumb out. The last episode looked promising but this one was just a bore, that could have been condensed to half its length.

I really want to like this anime, it managed to get more than the standard 13 episodes, so it can a decent paced story. on top of being a completely original title. No manga, light novel adaption bullshit. That's a giant ass risk and shows they found someone to gamble on this.

I personally preferred show that not scared to take its time and develop it story characters and lore. Which kills me to see this fall so bloody short.

Maybe if I re-watch it so time after it finished airing and it works if you bench it in large chunks. Now I feel like I’m going out of the way just to defined this title.
 
Jul 15, 2017 2:37 AM

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It's official. Kikuchihara is rule 63 Agent Colson.
So we have finally began the Elimination Chamber Festival Initiative, and all the production staff are working their asses off to meet the deadline, but it's not as simple as it may seem. Yatoji and Matsubara aren't in terms with how the story should fit and Marine is having doubts about her art style. Thankfully, this is resolved later on and they all get along and get things into gear.
The real highlight on the other hand, is the new look of the OP and the ED. The OP is amazing, and is worthy of an episode of 'What's in an OP' from Mother's Basement, and the ED is giving a lot of Shirobako vibes. Not surprising since this show is Shirobako, with added action. And there are TWO new characters coming in, one from what is supposed to be a Rom-Com, while the other is,
Oh shit! It's the protagonist form Exclusive Underground! Now shit's going to hit the fan, and it is going to be glorious!
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Jul 15, 2017 9:01 AM

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i liked it the other OP song!!!
Sota wants to introduce a new mistery character, what it will the power of this misterious character? something with the time? :/l


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Jul 15, 2017 10:40 AM

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A lot of arguing in this episode but eventually they reached to an agreement !! A great build-up episode for this arc and i think Sota's idea is gonna make this a lot more thrilling than it is now <3 , And 2 new Creations appeared but only one of them was shown and i hope they become our allies not our enemies , The Op is really Amazing and kinda catchy and the Ed is great too , The fight between the Creators is kinda complicated for them , I mean like all of them have different ideas and they struggle to choose the best one , It's a really hard choice for them and i think Sota's doing everything he can , He suggested a weird idea but I think it's going to work and it's going to help plenty , I'm not that sure tho ... Anyways , A great episode and I seriously can't just can't wait for this battle to start i really can't describe the Hypeeeeee <3 <3 <3 and I'm ready for more ( Hopefully , HOPEFULLY ) , Looking Forward !!!!
 
Jul 15, 2017 5:40 PM

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Corinthians, is that you?
So, this symbol is (or look a lot like) a symbol from a Brazilian football club lololololol
 
Jul 16, 2017 12:50 AM
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thats called building the pace dude, maybe there will be season 2


Building pace in the middle of series. What a brillaint idea. Would be even better if the people in charge of this anime could actually handle pacing, which so far was consistently their biggest fuck-up so far.

u must be fate zero lover ? ;3
 
Jul 16, 2017 12:54 AM
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Axelucard said:
the new OP is kinda meh


haters statement is invalid
 
Jul 16, 2017 9:03 AM

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zeero0 said:
Axelucard said:
the new OP is kinda meh


haters statement is invalid

if you say so bro xD
 
 
Jul 19, 2017 9:11 PM

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New OP, and it's so awesome! Love it! This anime has some of the best OP of the season.
A new character appeared? Interesting.
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Jul 21, 2017 7:30 PM

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So they're gonna create an original story involving all the characters in order to defeat Altair.
That ending really demostrate animatiors work.
 
 
Jul 22, 2017 5:30 PM

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Boring, talk talk talk. I want Altair to crash their party.
So what will happen if the audience sides with Altair?

At least the new OP song is good.
 
Jul 23, 2017 6:31 AM

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New OP is good, but 1st was better. Anyway the ep revolved around the strategy to build a bird-cage for the final showdown with Altair &co.

Also, Sota despite calling himself 'narrator', sure emphasizes 'boku' with such force as he's the MC calling the shots.
 
Aug 6, 2017 10:09 PM
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Good episode that reminds me of why we don't see to many crossovers in fiction.
I love the new Op and the new Ed.
The first is a nice action beat and the ending is a nice 4th wall break. Both (the OP more the ED) leave hints at Altair's sympathetic side.
 
Aug 11, 2017 6:35 AM

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New OP is an improvement just because it doesn't show dickhead MC dramatically putting on glasses.
 
Sep 21, 2017 11:08 AM

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For the new OP we will have 2 new characters, that girl in the end and a new boy...
 
Sep 24, 2017 8:09 AM

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Wow, I can't believe THAT is where the conflict ist coming from now...
 
 
Dec 12, 2017 6:12 PM

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Damn the new OP is sick!
 
Dec 25, 2017 6:59 PM

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Weakest episode from this series 'til now I think...
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Feb 1, 2018 5:51 AM

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For a setup episode, it was pretty solid. And the whole storyline of following the Creators behind the scenes as they work hard to get their stories done/a way to connect them well it was pretty interesting
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Feb 22, 2018 9:57 PM

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lol a heroine from romance series appeared! would be funny if she got to be the one who fight Magane.

 
Mar 7, 2018 4:49 AM

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The new OP and ED are nice! Looks like it confirms Mamika's irreversible death.
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Mar 31, 2018 6:23 AM

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New OP & ED which are totally awesome! Especially that ending! With the OP we also see some new characters and get one of those already at the ending of this episode! Well looking forwards to see what's next.
 
Mar 23, 2019 9:36 PM

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Love the new OP! Tielle is awesome!!!

I like the idea, but it's a shame there's only a few episodes left. I really wouldn't be surprise if the ending ends with so much potential wasted.

Ah well, almost there anyways! Let's do this!
 
Jul 25, 2020 10:48 AM

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I'm enjoying the idea of an overpowered OC fueled by an entire fandom's headcanon. It makes me think of Touhou and how crazy power level discussions can get with how much is extrapolated from the original games and distorted by fan interpretations.

The plan for a huge multi-series collab feels like an editorially mandated western comic book crossover event, featuring a scenario akin to Secret Wars, Blackest Night, or Infinite Crisis. This is even worse in the anime/manga world, where the concept of a shared universe are only possible when self-contained within a franchise, such as Type-MOON, CLAMP, Gundam, Science Adventure by 5pb., Pretty Cure, or works by Leiji Matsumoto or Ken Akamatsu. A proper crossover event in the anime/manga world would be akin to chibi spinoffs (Isekai Quartet), spinoff games (Shounen Jump fighters, Dengeki Bunko), or PVs advertising multiple franchises within a publication.

A proper crossover event anime though, which includes collaborative writing, power scaling, and scenarios to accommodate for every disconnected series? Fiction is the place for impossible concepts to be explored, and a grand crossover anime is, in fact, a near impossible concept. I'm fascinated by Re:Creators and its meta take on appealing to viewers, maintaining writing consistency, taking consideration for characters' feelings within their worlds, and understanding the pressures in place for creators when developing their works. I just wish that Re:Creators was a bit better as an actual show though, as the show's overall conflict seems to be a vehicle to communicate its theories and impressions of the nature of Japanese media in a post-internet world. At the moment, Re:Creators feels more like it's struggling to be a show meta commentaries with a shoehorned plot about saving the world.
 
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