| These are my reasons on why I prefer classic anime to modern anime (and this is why I hate modern anime). I haven't seen a whole lot of anime so don't insult me if I made a mistake because I'm sorry, I don't watch a lot of anime! 1. They don't got very bratty characters in them. A lot of anime especially nowadays got tsunderes in them or just selfish, immature, whiny people. I like nice people, I don't like mean people. 2. They are more cheerful and optimistic. They can have funny and silly moments in them and moments that make me smile. Don't have to worry about a bunch of serious moments moments such as crying or fighting. I like people being happy, it makes me happy, too. 3. There's not a lot of ecchi, fanservice, or sex in them. 4. Not a lot of cliches, stock characters or stereotypes. 5. They don't overstay their welcome. 6. They don't rely on moe. 7. They have some action and story in them and are not just bland, storyless, all-over-the-place slice of life stories. 8. Some of them aren't really gory or full of graphic violence or whatever. I do know an anime I hate called Neon Genesis Evangelion that had some of these things in there, also Perfect Blue was too violent so they don't count. |
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| Your reasons are wrong. Source: My own anime experience. |
| lol you just don't know which modern anime to watch at all |
| Let's put here why those reasons are shit one by one. 1. There's always been shitty characters in anime. 2. What are you talking about, anime nowadays is FAR more happy. 3. Bullshit. 4. ...I can't say anything in this one. 5. What does this even mean? 6. Nor it does now. 7. Bullshit (Again) 8. Bullshit (How do you get so many things backwards?) Watch more anime. And stop making shit threads. Edit: Wait, If you hate Evangelion, why do you have an avatar of it? |
NoesnecesarioJun 27, 2017 3:54 PM
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| Ah I see. Well OP your reasons are understandable, have a good day. |
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| Shit list, Shit thread, but is it a shit post? hmmmmmmmm |
LaLeLuLiLoJun 27, 2017 3:57 PM
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| Fair enough. This seems more like a blog than anything though. You're just kind of stating your opinion, not really provoking discussion. |
| I mean just going by the last line I'm going to interpret the rest as "I'm going to conveniently ignore examples from past anime that contradict my list because I can." |
Noesnecesario said: Let's put here why those reasons are shit one by one. 1. There's always been shitty characters in anime. 2. What are you talking about, anime nowadays is FAR more happy. 3. Bullshit. 4. ...I can't say anything in this one. 5. What does this even mean? 6. Nor it does now. 7. Bullshit (Again) 8. Bullshit (How do you get so many things backwards?) Watch more anime. And stop making shit threads. Edit: Wait, If you hate Evangelion, why do you have an avatar of it? Stop insulting me! Why are you insulting? I said no insulting because I don't know a whole lot of anime you guys know! The only crap threads I made are usually about Evangelion! I never meant to insult anyone with any thread on the general forums! I'm mocking Evangelion with me avatar. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. |
| Put this thread under watched, seems like this is gonna be good. |
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Tonysol67 said: Shit list, Shit thread, but not a shit post? hmmmmmmmm I'm sorry! D: I don't know a lot of anime. :( Darek said: oh boi, I recognize that avatar... I know exactly where this thread is going... oh boi... oh... boi... Just don't insult me man! And I'll continue being nice. D: |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. |
GamerDLM said: I mean just going by the last line I'm going to interpret the rest as "I'm going to conveniently ignore examples from past anime that contradict my list because I can." It would not be the first time OP has done this. |
| Tell me how many anime you know just from this two season. https://myanimelist.net/anime/season/1996/winter https://myanimelist.net/anime/season/1996/spring |
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pinkarray said: I said no insulting because I don't know a whole lot of anime you guys know! Watch more anime. pinkarray said: The only crap threads I made are usually about Evangelion! I never meant to insult anyone with any thread on the general forums Why would you ever make a thread just to shit on a specific anime? |
| One man is no more than another, if he do no more than what another does. |
| Yeah, no, OP, you have no idea what you're talking about. Ranma 1/2, on its own, debunks the majority of your list. |
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NeoAnkara said: Tell me how many anime you know just from this two season. https://myanimelist.net/anime/season/1996/winter https://myanimelist.net/anime/season/1996/spring I watched 4 out of these, Wedding Peach, Escaflowne and Evangelion, hated both. And I don't think I care much for Kodomo no Omocha so far. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. |
Darek said: Yeah... but here is the thing, this is AD, you are probably gonna get insulted by someone, or misinterpret someone and then it is all just a matter of time before the threads blows up. I was that there was more nice people in the world. Zelkiiro said: Yeah, no, OP, you have no idea what you're talking about. Ranma 1/2, on its own, debunks the majority of your list. Have not seen all of Ranma 1/2. Noesnecesario said: pinkarray said: I said no insulting because I don't know a whole lot of anime you guys know! Watch more anime. pinkarray said: The only crap threads I made are usually about Evangelion! I never meant to insult anyone with any thread on the general forums Why would you ever make a thread just to shit on a specific anime? Okay, but I do not watch anime all the time. I watch them occasionally. And about crapping on Neon Genesis Evangelion, I have obsessive-compulsive disorder. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. |
Darek said: Yeah... but here is the thing, this is AD, you are probably gonna get insulted by someone, or misinterpret someone and then it is all just a matter of time before the threads blows up. you're making it sound like AD is the Salty Spittoon for the mentally deficient when you phrase it like this |
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Darek said: If you want the thread to blow up just call for @CodeBlazeFate, he knows how to wreck threads like nothing else.Yeah... but here is the thing, this is AD, you are probably gonna get insulted by someone, or misinterpret someone and then it is all just a matter of time before the threads blows up. |
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pinkarray said: Okay, but I do not watch anime all the time. I watch them occasionally. Don't worry, no one does. Just watch more different anime. pinkarray said: And about crapping on Neon Genesis Evangelion, I have obsessive-compulsive disorder. No idea what that has to do with anything, but, have you seeked psychiatrich help already? |
| One man is no more than another, if he do no more than what another does. |
| @Zapredon fight, another old anime elitist |
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| I really have a hard time trying to figure out if this is a troll or not |
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pinkarray said: These are my reasons on why I prefer classic anime to modern anime (and this is why I hate modern anime). I haven't seen a whole lot of anime so don't insult me if I made a mistake because I'm sorry, I don't watch a lot of anime! 1. They don't got very bratty characters in them. A lot of anime especially nowadays got tsunderes in them or just selfish, immature, whiny people. I like nice people, I don't like mean people. 2. They are more cheerful and optimistic. They can have funny and silly moments in them and moments that make me smile. Don't have to worry about a bunch of serious moments moments such as crying or fighting. I like people being happy, it makes me happy, too. 3. There's not a lot of ecchi, fanservice, or sex in them. 4. Not a lot of cliches, stock characters or stereotypes. 5. They don't overstay their welcome. 6. They don't rely on moe. 7. They have some action and story in them and are not just bland, storyless, all-over-the-place slice of life stories. 8. Some of them aren't really gory or full of graphic violence or whatever. i'll just point these ones out because you know.. I'm who i am lol... 3. There's not a lot of ecchi, fanservice, or sex in them. as the ecchilord i could DESTROY this one in 2 seconds... ecchi goes back to the 60s 4. Not a lot of cliches, stock characters or stereotypes. uh.. where do you think modern anime got its clich'es, stock characters and stereotypes? 6. They don't rely on moe. WRONG... just wrong.. moe is like.. from the very beginning of anime pinkarray said: I haven't seen a whole lot of anime so don't insult me if I made a mistake because I'm sorry, I don't watch a lot of anime! good thing you said this, cause this list is complete bullshit.. theres absolutely NOTHING in modern anime that wasn't in old anime... you're cherry picking so hard its not even funny |
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| You said you prefered classic anime but you gave a lot of old anime low scores. So this thread doesn't make so much sense. |
IamnotsaofanJun 27, 2017 4:29 PM
| You called? @Ericonator Another goddamn modern version classic anime thread?! It's sad that I'm not even surprised. To you, OP, I recommend a YouTube channel series called Anime Abandon. He will prove you so wrong on number 4 and to a lesser extent 8 (since not it's a fairy to see a modern anime not only be truly graphic but also uncensored) Also, a lot of stories even nowadays are action series (usually nowadays, they're series that do in fact have a lot of action but aren't solely action-oriented). Re:Zero, Kabaneri (which is the one of the only two that is insanely action-based), Attack on Titan (the other one of two in this category), anything Fate related (even nowadays since there are so many that have come out this decade), Re:Creators, Hand Shakers, Big Order, Taboo Tattoo, The Asterisk War, Chivalry of a Failed Knight, Hundred, Boruto, My Hero Academia, and I could go on with action shows from the past 3 years alone. |
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| @SpaghettiSpike @Ericonator Please treat the thread nicely. I do not like to see people insulting others just because of their naivety or because they don't agree with their opinions on fictional stuff. I'm sorry but I don't watch a whole lot of anime and I would take sweet, happy, and action anime over story less, serious, and obscene anime |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. |
pinkarray said: I haven't seen a whole lot of anime so don't insult me if I made a mistake because I'm sorry, I don't watch a lot of anime! How does your thought process lead you from 'I know I have no idea what I'm talking about' to 'Let's make a thread about this!'? I don't understand people sometimes. If you're aware you're just making bullshit generalizations without being able to back them up with actual data/experience, then why make them? This is actually worse than people legitimately being too stupid to realize that they are making bullshit generalizations. But you know and still decided this thread should exist. Shame on you, sir. Also judging from your list like 95% of your 7+ rated anime are movies so you're basically judging the whole medium based on one subset of it that works very differently from the rest. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Pullman said: EcchiLordMamster said: 6. They don't rely on moe. WRONG... just wrong.. moe is like.. from the very beginning of anime Actually as far as I know the term only came up in the 90s and wasn't even a thing before that :>. sure maybe the describing term "moe" did, but the concept of very cute underage girls in anime is old af lol you troll |
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| This is high quality retardation. And with someone with an eva avatar, might as well count hypocritical. |
EcchiLordMamster said: Pullman said: Actually as far as I know the term only came up in the 90s and wasn't even a thing before that :>. sure maybe the describing term "moe" did, but the concept of cute af underage girls in anime is old af lol you troll well yeah lolis are older than the 90s but using that synonymously with moe is questionable. Moe means so much more than just cute girls. Like a specific kind of cuteness/attraction. If it was just cuteness in general it wouldn't need it's own term :>. It means so much moe than cute girls ^^ the point being that when something doesn't even exist as a seperate concept yet it might still exist one way or the other if you analyze in retrospect, but you won't have producers asking for anime to be 'moe' or make a 'moe anime' when the term isn't even a thing yet. it won't be put there on purpose. So in that sense 80s and anime before didn't have 'moe'. |
AlcoholicideJun 27, 2017 4:42 PM
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| You said that you prefered classic anime. But you reviewed SEL a 4 because you didn't understand it. Haha. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
Pullman said: EcchiLordMamster said: sure maybe the describing term "moe" did, but the concept of cute af underage girls in anime is old af lol you troll well yeah lolis are older than the 90s but using that synonymously with moe is questionable. Moe means so much more than just cute girls :( im pretty sure the girls before the 80s would still be considered moe today lol... as someone who watches 80s anime, its pretty damn obvious where the moe trope came from |
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| Akage no Anne ---> 5 I'm afraid to announce that your point has been considered invalid due to this huge incompatibility with Good Taste. Other than that |
| Hi, @pinkarray. I'm going to take you in the most positive context, and thank you for being one to give classic anime a chance. While I can't fault someone who doesn't like older art designs/dated music/whatever because it's all personal preference, it will inevitably lead someone to miss out on some great series. That being said, there's always been good and bad shows. Trendsetters and copycats. Highbrow mindbenders and obviously cheap cash-ins. And of course, there's always been the classics vs modern argument, even back in the early 90s when all we had to argue on was Usenet newsgroups and Bulletin Board Systems. It's funny how the modern titles being called crap back then are considered classic anime today, even if only by age. There are differences, of course - setting the obvious technical differences aside, because it wasn't the basis for your post - I think it's really difficult to compare different eras of anime in terms of more/less moe/fanservice/story quality/character quality/violence. This is because all shows, anime or not, are the product of their times. I remember, for example, the premiere of Blue Seed being criticized in Japan for being too violent for its time slot, but I doubt anyone would bat an eye over its content, today. The general consensus changes with the times. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I've been hearing the same arguments that the classics were better, anime is dying, real fans only watch subs, anime is too violent/sexist, why are there no original ideas anymore, anime is too expensive, you have shit taste, casuals are ruining the industry, "Popular Anime X" is overrated so I will bash it like the other 90% of fans do, etc etc etc for decades, it never changes. It's great that you enjoy the classics but it's not really fair to stereotype modern anime the way you are, especially when it's really easy to argue in the same fashion but in reverse. Just find good shows and enjoy them regardless of age. |
Phantasy_StarvedJun 27, 2017 5:52 PM
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pinkarray said: These are my reasons on why I prefer classic anime to modern anime (and this is why I hate modern anime). I haven't seen a whole lot of anime so don't insult me if I made a mistake because I'm sorry, I don't watch a lot of anime! 1. They don't got very bratty characters in them. A lot of anime especially nowadays got tsunderes in them or just selfish, immature, whiny people. I like nice people, I don't like mean people. 2. They are more cheerful and optimistic. They can have funny and silly moments in them and moments that make me smile. Don't have to worry about a bunch of serious moments moments such as crying or fighting. I like people being happy, it makes me happy, too. 3. There's not a lot of ecchi, fanservice, or sex in them. 4. Not a lot of cliches, stock characters or stereotypes. 5. They don't overstay their welcome. 6. They don't rely on moe. 7. They have some action and story in them and are not just bland, storyless, all-over-the-place slice of life stories. 8. Some of them aren't really gory or full of graphic violence or whatever. I do know an anime I hate called Neon Genesis Evangelion that had some of these things in there, also Perfect Blue was too violent so they don't count. 1. Sorry but annoying characters in anime are universal regardless of age. 2. If you think this you must not not have seen very many movies or OVAs from the 80's and 90s. 3. Again not really true because of the above reason, in fact restrictions were lessened back then, no mysterious holy light of chastity to cover up the naughty bits 4. These classic shows are where the cliches originated so of course they're still there. 5. In the 80's and 90's, series actually ran longer and for many more seasons than the norm is today, overstaying their welcome much more often EX: Urusei Yatsura, Maison Ikkoku, etc. 6. Maybe not to the level they have it now but cute things doing cute stuff was always around since early on. 7. This isn't really anything unique to older anime, you can find these types of titles now. 8. Again see reason 2 above. The 80s and 90s are known for violent content too. Not that have anything against older anime in fact I advocate watching a variety of shows from every genre, demographic, or age that interests you. Just because there are new anime constantly coming out doesn't mean that there aren't good ones you might have missed. Conversely, I don't think burying my head figuratively in the sand of older titles is the right move either and one should at least try to find new titles to enjoy also. Boalance of both old and new is best. |
KruszerJun 27, 2017 6:54 PM
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Kruszer said: pinkarray said: These are my reasons on why I prefer classic anime to modern anime (and this is why I hate modern anime). I haven't seen a whole lot of anime so don't insult me if I made a mistake because I'm sorry, I don't watch a lot of anime! 1. They don't got very bratty characters in them. A lot of anime especially nowadays got tsunderes in them or just selfish, immature, whiny people. I like nice people, I don't like mean people. 2. They are more cheerful and optimistic. They can have funny and silly moments in them and moments that make me smile. Don't have to worry about a bunch of serious moments moments such as crying or fighting. I like people being happy, it makes me happy, too. 3. There's not a lot of ecchi, fanservice, or sex in them. 4. Not a lot of cliches, stock characters or stereotypes. 5. They don't overstay their welcome. 6. They don't rely on moe. 7. They have some action and story in them and are not just bland, storyless, all-over-the-place slice of life stories. 8. Some of them aren't really gory or full of graphic violence or whatever. I do know an anime I hate called Neon Genesis Evangelion that had some of these things in there, also Perfect Blue was too violent so they don't count. 1. Sorry but annoying characters in anime are universal regardless of age. 2. If you think this you must not not have seen very many movies or OVAs from the 80's and 90s. 3. Again not really true because of the above reason, in fact restrictions were lessened back then, no mysterious holy light of chastity to cover up the naughty bits 4. These classic shows are where the cliches originated so of course they're still there. 5. In the 80's and 90's, series actually ran longer and for many more seasons than the norm is today, overstaying their welcome much more often EX: Urusei Yatsura, Maison Ikkoku, etc. 6. Maybe not to the level they have it now but cute things doing cute stuff was always around since early on. 7. This isn't really anything unique to older anime, you can find these types of titles now. 8. Again see reason 2 above. The 80s and 90s are known for violent content too. Not that have anything against older anime in fact I advocate watching a variety of shows from every genre, demographic, or age that interests you. Just because there are new anime constantly coming out doesn't mean that there aren't good ones you might have missed. Conversely, I don't think burying my head figuratively in the sand of older titles is the right move either and one should at least try to find new titles to enjoy also. Boalance of both old and new is best. I don't avoid all new anime because that isn't fair. There are a few new anime I enjoy. Brb said: This is high quality retardation. And with someone with an eva avatar, might as well count hypocritical. Okay, it's high-quality autism. If you're going to talk to me, do it properly. Iamnotsaofan said: You said that you prefered classic anime. But you reviewed SEL a 4 because you didn't understand it. Haha. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Who understands Lain anyway? jal90 said: Akage no Anne ---> 5 I'm afraid to announce that your point has been considered invalid due to this huge incompatibility with Good Taste. Other than that I don't like the taste is crap thing because everyone has their own opinion. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. |
| invalid reasonings there will always be an annoying character in any anime just quit it |
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sunako199 said: invalid reasonings there will always be an annoying character in any anime just quit it Well everyone is annoying at some point in their lives. I'm not saying they should be perfect little goody-two-shoes because nobody is like that. But plain selfish and bratty characters make me hate them. rvbrick said: I generally prefer older anime (No nostalgia involved as I didn't grow up with it, I just prefer the art style and as a science fiction nut, the plots of a lot of older anime appeal to me way more than the average modern anime) but I have to say, your reasons aren't particularly valid. Annoying characters are present in all eras of anime. Serious storytelling is present in most eras of anime (the earliest examples I can think of being the original Lupin series, where our hero acts like a criminal, and Space Battleship Yamato, where the narrator mentions the Earth is doomed at the end of every episode and people die left and right). Ecchi mostly stayed out of anime before the OVA boom, so I'll give you that. At least, the super annoying kind of ecchi that makes anime look embarrassing. There are most certainly cliches, stock characters, and stereotypes in all eras of anime. Granted, they're not as noticeable (because the market wasn't flooded with anime, and all of the worst offenders never got licensed/have never been fansubbed) but they're still there. There are plenty of really long anime. Hell, there's also a lot of 40+ episode anime that could've told the exact same story in just 26 episodes (sorry, Space Pirate Captain Harlock). Yes, there are far less "cute girls doing cute things" shows in the pre-digital era, barely any, really. #7 is a huge generalization. Just because the majority of the run of the mill, made to sell Blu Rays anime are slice of life or bad LN adaptations doesn't mean that there aren't still good story driven shows still being made. But yes, there are less of them. And #8... well, you could potentially have a point because EVA paved the way for the late-night anime with more graphic violence seen in the early 2000s, but Boogiepop Phantom counts as an "old anime" and it's the most graphic and unsettling anime I've ever seen. ...as usual with these kinds of threads, you have a point, but your own ignorance prevents you from expressing it clearly. I know that there were some serious storytelling back in the old days but not to the point where I'd hate it like now. |
| Numbuh 3, you've got to get off the couch, you cannot sit in that tree house, girl you like Rainbow Monkeys so grab your little shit and then swing! Hand tracks be tracking me to different doorways. In a maze, and I don't know what to do. Guaranteed though, Ima find the emeralds. |
| Neither. They're both great in their own ways. I can easily switch up from watching this (https://myanimelist.net/anime/1372/Taiho_Shichau_zo_1996?q=199) to this (https://myanimelist.net/anime/30276/One_Punch_Man?q=One%20) in a heartbeat. No need for choosing either or. |
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| Modern anime will be called classics one day.... |
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pinkarray said: These are my reasons on why I prefer classic anime to modern anime (and this is why I hate modern anime). I haven't seen a whole lot of anime so don't insult me if I made a mistake because I'm sorry, I don't watch a lot of anime! 1. They don't got very bratty characters in them. A lot of anime especially nowadays got tsunderes in them or just selfish, immature, whiny people. I like nice people, I don't like mean people. 2. They are more cheerful and optimistic. They can have funny and silly moments in them and moments that make me smile. Don't have to worry about a bunch of serious moments moments such as crying or fighting. I like people being happy, it makes me happy, too. 3. There's not a lot of ecchi, fanservice, or sex in them. 4. Not a lot of cliches, stock characters or stereotypes. 5. They don't overstay their welcome. 6. They don't rely on moe. 7. They have some action and story in them and are not just bland, storyless, all-over-the-place slice of life stories. 8. Some of them aren't really gory or full of graphic violence or whatever. I do know an anime I hate called Neon Genesis Evangelion that had some of these things in there, also Perfect Blue was too violent so they don't count. So anime years back don't follow archetypes or cliches? Interesting... >sex Wait... Wait... Wut? You mean hentai? |
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