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Jun 23, 2017 6:51 AM

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Mind to tell us the names of the 2 manga before this please ?

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Preceding mangas? Titles?


https://myanimelist.net/manga/10451/Shinakoi
https://myanimelist.net/manga/47987/Shinai_Mijikashi_Koiseyo_Otome

To summarize the two mangas, one day a kendo girl Sakura meets a strong swordmaster guy and gets involved in battles among "the number holders".

The school of Busou Shoujo was


Thanks but where can I read it? Can't find the 2ng manga. Found shinakoi but with only 6 chapters, Busou shoujo stopped updating after chapter 15
 
Jun 23, 2017 6:54 AM

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Should've changed Amou into a guy; then we could at least have some yaoi and traps in this shitfest, and pander to a few audiences. Also yeah, would've been a hilarious yaoi moment:
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Jun 23, 2017 7:26 AM

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Satisfying ending I guess, but the show was quite average in the end.

6/10.


 
Jun 23, 2017 8:39 AM

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Jun 23, 2017 11:49 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Well I have to admit, with everything that came together..this finale did have one brutal fight.

Amou isn't showing any mercy while taking some hard hits to her face.
The fight itself felt predictable though imo with Amou's defeat. Well, at least we get to see a different side of her now.

THAT KISS


Isn't showing any mercy? But didn't Nomura said right after the final clash that Amou is still holding back with her auto counter? And then Amou put Nomura's hand to her chest and told him to finish it. Nomura didn't win imo she let her win

I loved the show really. I was expecting that kiss thing in the end. But I don't believe that Amou went away, since the Airplane flew away? :D
 
Jun 23, 2017 1:32 PM

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Well, can't say I didn't expect this ending. I probably enjoyed this series a lot more than I was supposed to. Don't usually watch harems but this one was pretty good.
 
Jun 23, 2017 7:41 PM

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Holy shit... what an unwatchable anime.

I'm probably a SM to be able to get until the end.

The MC is annoying.
The (supposedly bad ass) girls are all a bunch of weaklings that eventually start to like the MC when they get defeated.
Very irritating.

Disappointing.

1/10
 
Jun 24, 2017 4:40 AM

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seconds_to_dere said:

Thanks but where can I read it? Can't find the 2ng manga. Found shinakoi but with only 6 chapters, Busou shoujo stopped updating after chapter 15


Well, I don't know. I simply bought the mangas at a bookstore near my house and read them. But I guess the first 6 chapters are enough for you to understand it is the preceding manga.

- Koharu and Yukino's conspiracy
- The Jigen style swordsmanship
- The lethal invisible move, Un'you
- Much explanation about actual technique of actual Japanese swordsmanship

The theme is nothing changed.
 
 
Jun 24, 2017 10:10 AM

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Amou Super Ultra Yandere. I fanking love her
 
Jun 24, 2017 12:46 PM

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Amou kiss..........been hoping for it and was granted. Best Girl.

Decent show 8/10, liked the MC (kinda rare for harem show), the girls were good and sexy.
Best girl Amou got her kiss, 2nd best girl Satori got her kiss, what more to ask. Gonna check out manga, if it got tl'ed.
 
Jun 24, 2017 6:10 PM
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dmrch said:
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Manga hasnt tell much about her. Just that she much stronger than Amou. And she the one forced Amou transfer to certain school under her name which show in the anime.
Nomura also supposes to transfer school. For upcoming arc2.
But anime changed it and make Nomura stay.


She is Tsukuyo's older sister, Koharu. She is the main antagonist of the preceding works, and is one of the strongest swordmasters in that universe.

Well, I'm not sure if someone said before in MAL though, there are two mangas beofore Busou Shoujo Machiavellianism. It is in the same universe and there are some same characters in the three mangas.

In the preceding works, top 10 swordmasters in the country, "the number holders" fight against each other. And 2 years or some later, the three of "the number holders",

"No.2" Koharu
"No.3" Tsukuyo
"No.7" Yukino (the headmistress)

(plus Eva, Tsukuyo's maid) appear in Busou Shoujo.

(If you read the preceding mangas, you will understand why Tsukuyo wants to make friends in Busou Shoujo).

I dont know there prequel. Thanks for infor. I will check it out.
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Kit_Le said:

Manga hasnt tell much about her. Just that she much stronger than Amou. And she the one forced Amou transfer to certain school under her name which show in the anime.
Nomura also supposes to transfer school. For upcoming arc2.
But anime changed it and make Nomura stay.


Is that the reason Amou leaves?

If Nomura stays in the Amine while he was supposed to transfer in themanga, does that mean there is not going to be a season 2 even if the manga proceeds?

Yeah, basically, they expell her and force her Transfer to Hokkai school. Nomura also forced transfer to Hokkai later chapter.
Idk, they can do season 2 and alter detail ez since there a lot reason force him transfer already. The problem is will the anime sell.
 
Jun 24, 2017 11:02 PM

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To those who want to follow up with the manga: the anime covered roughly 33 chapters but I recommend that you start from the beginning so as to not miss the skipped/cut scenes. Happy reading!
From what I've seen, isn't there only 15 chapters that are translated atm? Or are you reading the raws?

Overall, this was surprisingly enjoyable, for the most part that is. Was a bit iffy on the animation at a couple of times, and the ending did seem a bit rushed, but was pretty decent overall. They made all the leads to be likable in the end, which I don't find very often (when I find a character(s) that I dislike, that is). I was a bit annoyed, however, at just how badly that Onigawara and Kikakujou just wouldn't leave him alone and were so focused on disciplining him, but oh well. And I did find it a bit stupid how the other guys in the school not only dressed like girls, but even went as far as playing the part. But nonetheless, in the end, as I said earlier, it was enjoyable enough for me to finish it so I guess that's all that matters. Overall, I'll leave this with a 5/10.


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Jun 25, 2017 5:40 AM

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Gem said:
In2TheBlu said:
To those who want to follow up with the manga: the anime covered roughly 33 chapters but I recommend that you start from the beginning so as to not miss the skipped/cut scenes. Happy reading!
From what I've seen, isn't there only 15 chapters that are translated atm? Or are you reading the raws?

Overall, this was surprisingly enjoyable, for the most part that is. Was a bit iffy on the animation at a couple of times, and the ending did seem a bit rushed, but was pretty decent overall. They made all the leads to be likable in the end, which I don't find very often (when I find a character(s) that I dislike, that is). I was a bit annoyed, however, at just how badly that Onigawara and Kikakujou just wouldn't leave him alone and were so focused on disciplining him, but oh well. And I did find it a bit stupid how the other guys in the school not only dressed like girls, but even went as far as playing the part. But nonetheless, in the end, as I said earlier, it was enjoyable enough for me to finish it so I guess that's all that matters. Overall, I'll leave this with a 5/10.


I was talking about the raws. We won't see a second season in less than 2 years for sure.
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Jun 25, 2017 4:07 PM

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Very sweet ending actually
Overall, this had a bit of a rough start but after the first couple of episodes, it began to find its groove and it continued to improve every episode, and it was actually pretty faithful to the manga as well
8/10
 
Jun 25, 2017 11:25 PM

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I like the ending of this show better than Rokudenashi.
love the aggressive kiss of Amou to Nomura.
Nomura looked so happy to go back to his alma mater! with everyone welcoming him!
4/5.
7.5/10.


 
 
Jun 27, 2017 7:43 AM

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Sry. but bear was the best girl in this show;/
 
Jun 27, 2017 12:16 PM
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meh series typical shitty harem stuff going on.

MC ended up annoying me by being so happy in one of the worst schools you could be in.
 
Jun 27, 2017 11:09 PM

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Lack of an interesting and unique plot? That's okay. Cute trope girls? I can look past that. Countless moments of "What the hell is even happening" that can grow on me.

Teleporting to the airport? Now that's some inexcusable bullshit...

Joking aside, this was a surprise for me. Didn't think I'd end up loving this as much as I do. It had the right combination of cute girls, comedy, and some pretty cool action. I can never get tired of these battle school anime.
6/10
 
Jun 29, 2017 6:39 AM
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Tasukuu said:
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Does the manga go further than the anime?
Yes.


Why did he have to ? Sorry, there's no english translation for the latest chapers so can't read on unfortunately
 
Jun 29, 2017 8:57 PM

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So in the end Amou was just a super yandere chick who wanted Fudou to reciprocate her feelings.

--> Long black hair, tsurime, dress, tights, boots, ridiculously skilled in combat topped off with crazy yandere personality.

--> Fucking best girl confirmed.

The five thots of the school can kindly fuck off.
 
Jun 30, 2017 1:08 AM

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It was a predictable anime and very obvious. Every girl Nomura fought ended up being infatuated with him. Too bad he was not expelled.
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Jun 30, 2017 6:32 AM

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That final episode was satisfying and I enjoyed this anime overall.
So I'll rate this show a 7 out of 10 score overall.
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Jul 1, 2017 4:16 AM
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Well I enjoyed the series, but it was definitely different.

The ending was pretty satisfying, especially that kiss, Amou was so wet for him I just wanted it to happen.

While this did wrap up nicely, I wouldn't mind seeing a sequel; especially just to see where this is actually going. I mean, the whole basis of this series was for him to get 5 stamps so he didn't have to go to school. I can't help but feel there's a bigger plot to be had.

The action was pretty decent and the comedy hit more than it missed, also Onigawara is best. Overall a 7/10.
 
 
Jul 4, 2017 6:33 PM

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I enjoyed the series, too bad most of the manga hasn't been translated yet. Glad to see they put the kiss in the anime though :)
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Jul 9, 2017 12:56 AM

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That was a surprisingly satisfying ending. Wasn't expecting that.
 
Jul 9, 2017 10:33 AM

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I kinda feel sorry for Amou, all she needs is love, but once again typical dense MC doesn't have any clue, even after she kissed him at the airport, thats a bummer i wouldn't let her go if i was Nomura. She's the perfect example of Tsundere mixed with Yandere.

But still Onigawara Rin is the best girl among them, i actually ship them together


Overall score 7/10
 
Jul 12, 2017 2:09 PM

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While Amou was really interesting character, her arc was rather weak.

As a whole it was much better anime than I expected after reading synopsis. Nice characters, especially protagonists, predictable but not boring story and enjoyable action. I can't complain.
 
 
Jul 18, 2017 12:17 PM

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Good last episode. To bad the previous episodes weren't as great as this one... This anime made me more annoyed than happy... 5/10.
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Jul 23, 2017 2:01 PM

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The last episodes were the best, it was nice to see a real rival. Good fight to end the anime.

It was an entertaining anime but nothing special. Too bad that we didn't see more Tamaba. At least, the MC is fun
 
Jul 27, 2017 5:10 AM
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Is there gonna be a S2
 
Aug 11, 2017 5:37 AM

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Is there gonna be a S2

No it lackings content and perhaps budget (mostly minor seasonal anime didnt even get any season 2).

The ending is pretty satisfying, theres no need a season 2.
Unless they're dragging it out.
 
Aug 16, 2017 11:22 PM

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Well that was a pretty decent ending for this series, a bit over the top even! Quite nice and had something more than what I expected from it. Liked it in general.
 
Dec 24, 2017 6:46 AM

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Overall a fun show, it was a harem without trying to all-out be a harem and the girls were pretty!

7/10
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Feb 20, 2018 3:40 PM
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The series were interesting, however the manga is better than the animation. They followed the manga until the end of Amo's fight, since the animation has an ending this means that there won't be a second season, also there isn't enough material for it either. if we want to know what really happened we need to read the manga that stills ongoing and started a new arch.

Sadly, in some aspects the animation could have been better but this manga got an adaptation.
what happens in the manga...spoil it for me so I can know if I'm going to read it or not
 
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I guess that means no S2 any time soon... Imo they should have cut the ED to show more of the fight. The animation was pretty good though. To those who want to follow up with the manga: the anime covered roughly 33 chapters but I recommend that you start from the beginning so as to not miss the skipped/cut scenes. Happy reading!
spoil it for me... what happens in the manga I want to know if it's worth reading or not
 
 
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Amou could have been a better character if she were an interesting Rival instead of a Jealous Yandere bitch. It could have been better if it was Onigawara the one that got that kiss Imo, she deserved it more (fuck that blonde girl, she ruined the moment when Nomura encountered Onigawara)

overall a disappointment


Too bad for Kikakujou (blonde girl) Nomura has no feelings for her. Good for Amou that she able to tell her feelings to Nomura. Rin Onigawara and Satori Tamaba is the best girls for me... 😊
 
Apr 1, 2018 11:57 PM

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Decent ending, for an anime like this, couldn’t be a better ending I would say.
 
Apr 17, 2018 11:31 AM

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A shit anime with a shit plot, shit characters and shit ending.

Total shit.

2/10

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Sep 13, 2018 7:16 AM

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Imma be honest I haven't been enjoying the show to the fullest since episode 4 or 5. I am not a fan of Satori, Warabi and Amou. Warabi is okay but her arc was pretty meh. Satori is just plain annoying with her retarded slow talking mannerism. Amou is also annoying and a hypocrit, couldn't stand her ego-psycho talking down to the others, she doesn't seem to know that the world doesn't revolve around her. She also almost killed Satori sister which is freakin extreme considering it's a school life anime. I did enjoy that kiss at the end but yea, never got to see her redeem herself and she left..

I really liked the action at the beginning of the series, but then I remembered the other action anime (Taboo Tattoo iirc) that I've watched that I liked at the beginning and it turned into complete trash later on, that's why I was wary of this series and it turned out that I was partially right.

Another thing is that this show never did develop, it's stuck with doing the same thing as the beginning of the series and keep it on repeat. All 12 episodes were about challenging the Supreme Five Swords. Maybe that's the "first arc" and the second arc is going to be different but yea, I feel like they didn't switch it up and it just got boring after a while. I did like that Inaba is like much superior compared to Nomura, and that they didn't end up fighting each other. (and I also like Inaba's character a lot, cute and funny and strong)

The action is fine but Nomura spamming his magic bullet reminds me of Ichigo/Naruto with only 1 move (Getsuga Tensho / Rasengan, before the war arc), gonna be honest it's getting boring as well, since it's pretty easy to speculate/predict how Nomura is going to approach his enemy. Having multiple skills, something like what Ikki from Rakudai Kishi have would be pretty nice.. like having multiple skills/techniques of the same form.

This series definitely have potential.. glad the original source is a manga and not a novel, I hate reading novel. Hope it gets translated soon tho.

One thing I like was the comedy, coming right from Quanzhi Fashi, it's a major upgrade. This series actually made me laugh unlike QZFS.
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Apr 17, 2019 7:49 PM

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Hmm what a weird turn of events and I think the ending was kinda messed up. It just didn't feel right especially with the expel part being a joke making the drama part kinda pointless. Also Nomura's relationship with many of the girls felt kinda forced especially with Amou. Anyway, over all the show was still entertaining and many of the characters were likable.
 
Oct 3, 2019 3:11 PM

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Hmm wasn't that bad, wasn't that good either. Seems like a solid 5/10.
 
Nov 1, 2019 11:21 PM

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That was refreshing. SO nice to not see another beta cuck sub male. And this was not really a harem at all. 3 women into one cool dude was like my life at that age lol.
Unlikely to ever have a 2nd season, which is a shame. I liked this show a lot, and would surely watch it again sometime. Amou though...she has that cold aloof sorta attractiveness...and shes fight capable. That is just hot on so many levels. Great show.
 
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dmrch said:
Kit_Le said:

Manga hasnt tell much about her. Just that she much stronger than Amou. And she the one forced Amou transfer to certain school under her name which show in the anime.
Nomura also supposes to transfer school. For upcoming arc2.
But anime changed it and make Nomura stay.


She is Tsukuyo's older sister, Koharu. She is the main antagonist of the preceding works, and is one of the strongest swordmasters in that universe.

Well, I'm not sure if someone said before in MAL though, there are two mangas beofore Busou Shoujo Machiavellianism. It is in the same universe and there are some same characters in the three mangas.

In the preceding works, top 10 swordmasters in the country, "the number holders" fight against each other. And 2 years or some later, the three of "the number holders",

"No.2" Koharu
"No.3" Tsukuyo
"No.7" Yukino (the headmistress)

(plus Eva, Tsukuyo's maid) appear in Busou Shoujo.

(If you read the preceding mangas, you will understand why Tsukuyo wants to make friends in Busou Shoujo).


Can't find them, why does Tsukuyo want to make friends in Busou Shoujo?
 
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