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Jun 22, 2017 11:02 AM

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Great end for this anime! The fight was awesome! The confession of love at the airport by Amou was good and the ending scene was a perfect way to end it all
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Jun 22, 2017 11:46 AM

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The fight was alright. Seems Amou deliberate chose to lose to MC she loves. And that kiss! Yes!! I like how she declared that MC only belongs to her XD

But that ending.. would've preferred if he was transferred too.
 
Jun 22, 2017 11:47 AM

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Does the manga go further than the anime?




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Jun 22, 2017 1:33 PM

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Ok now, I got pretty excited in this anime at first but starting from episode 10 everything felt so rushed and it's such a huge turn off for me. I was thinking about go to the manga after watch this episode but I guess I'll go from the beginning.

At the beginning of the series I was like "wow this could be good" then at the end I was like "uh......why do I even watch this anime?". It ruined all the curiosity I got from what type of a character Tsukuyo and Amou is, not enough character development for those two despite being probably the most interesting character traits in the series. I'm really disappointed at how this anime could've gone better.

Overall, it was still enjoyable for me, 7/10.
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Jun 22, 2017 2:04 PM

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Made me laugh, like all the girls. Sadly, nothing all that special.
6/10
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Jun 22, 2017 2:28 PM

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dmrch said:
Kit_Le said:

Manga hasnt tell much about her. Just that she much stronger than Amou. And she the one forced Amou transfer to certain school under her name which show in the anime.
Nomura also supposes to transfer school. For upcoming arc2.
But anime changed it and make Nomura stay.


She is Tsukuyo's older sister, Koharu. She is the main antagonist of the preceding works, and is one of the strongest swordmasters in that universe.

Well, I'm not sure if someone said before in MAL though, there are two mangas beofore Busou Shoujo Machiavellianism. It is in the same universe and there are some same characters in the three mangas.

In the preceding works, top 10 swordmasters in the country, "the number holders" fight against each other. And 2 years or some later, the three of "the number holders",

"No.2" Koharu
"No.3" Tsukuyo
"No.7" Yukino (the headmistress)

(plus Eva, Tsukuyo's maid) appear in Busou Shoujo.

(If you read the preceding mangas, you will understand why Tsukuyo wants to make friends in Busou Shoujo).


Mind to tell us the names of the 2 manga before this please ?
 
Jun 22, 2017 2:48 PM

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Nobody's gonna confuse this for any kind of masterpiece (except for some of that kikakujou art, goodness), but it tried to be *fun* when so many other shows put in ill-fitting drama that they can't write anyway. Honestly pretty cheesy, but we're watching cartoons aimed at 15-year olds so w/e, 7/10, would watch more.
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Jun 22, 2017 3:36 PM

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That tie pull kiss was hot. 8/10 I will definitely read the manga
 
Jun 22, 2017 5:41 PM

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Seems all the budget went to that Amou vs. nomura might and it had a ton of still frames. I ejoyed them smacking each other though.

An okay serires. Final episodes were imo the best episodes. It had a good start but it seemed to dip down on the middle because of the formula. I wouldn't mind an s2 since the manga is still publishing.

6/10




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Jun 22, 2017 5:57 PM

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Amou could have been a better character if she were an interesting Rival instead of a Jealous Yandere bitch. It could have been better if it was Onigawara the one that got that kiss Imo, she deserved it more (fuck that blonde girl, she ruined the moment when Nomura encountered Onigawara)

overall a disappointment


This. Hardly worth typing in on gelbooru, honestly. Typical harem esque show. Whatever decent action to be had was broken and muddled through constant cutouts, flashbacks, and exposition. The only character that didn't seem to fall for the whole "I think suddenly like this guy" was the one with the bear and stupid ass laugh, even one else was either broken and fixed by him or dickmatized. It was fun 10 years ago. But with every show having this format, good or bad you have to really overcompensate else where in order to be memorable. Something this show didn't even try.
 
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QWERTYFish25 said:
HereticHunter said:
Amou could have been a better character if she were an interesting Rival instead of a Jealous Yandere bitch. It could have been better if it was Onigawara the one that got that kiss Imo, she deserved it more (fuck that blonde girl, she ruined the moment when Nomura encountered Onigawara)

overall a disappointment


This. Hardly worth typing in on gelbooru, honestly. Typical harem esque show. Whatever decent action to be had was broken and muddled through constant cutouts, flashbacks, and exposition. The only character that didn't seem to fall for the whole "I think suddenly like this guy" was the one with the bear and stupid ass laugh, even one else was either broken and fixed by him or dickmatized. It was fun 10 years ago. But with every show having this format, good or bad you have to really overcompensate else where in order to be memorable. Something this show didn't even try.


Indeed, the girl with the bear was the most likeable girl of the show. And I get what you mean, there are anime with a generic setting that can overcome the typical formula, but is something that most of them doesn't even try
Just give them a pair of over sized breasts and a happy ending and they'll oink for more every time


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Jun 22, 2017 7:25 PM

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Whatever with the hate. This was a fun show to watch week to week. Shows of this template are a dime a dozen but this one was entertaining and had some flare to it.
 
Jun 22, 2017 7:52 PM

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SOMETIMES A GIRL JUST WANTS THE D
 
 
Jun 22, 2017 8:09 PM

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Well I'm satisfied with both the story and the ending so I'll give it 7/10. This anime never bore me with every episodes and I really like Amou tbh sad to see her leave in the end.
 
Jun 22, 2017 8:11 PM
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I liked it overall. I would've liked to have seen Nomura pull his sneak around trick on Amou as she turns to leave in the airport. I like those two together more than any other pairing. All that punching was just foreplay... or maybe second date? Whatever it may be, I'm pretty sure now they're engaged.

Seems like there's room for more... given the introduction to another crazy eyed girl. If the story ends here, it's at an okay place to do so.
 
Jun 22, 2017 8:38 PM

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This show was pretty good for what it was and one of the few of it's kind to actually offer proper closure ~ I definitely wouldn't expect a S2 from this.

Amou & Nomura are just made for each other,although they might butt heads since they're both non-submissive types. They were enjoying themselves so much beating each other up~ could you imagine them having sex?

 
 
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Is it just me or Girls with long green hair are psychotic in anime world.
 
Jun 23, 2017 2:16 AM

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dmrch said:
Kit_Le said:

Manga hasnt tell much about her. Just that she much stronger than Amou. And she the one forced Amou transfer to certain school under her name which show in the anime.
Nomura also supposes to transfer school. For upcoming arc2.
But anime changed it and make Nomura stay.


She is Tsukuyo's older sister, Koharu. She is the main antagonist of the preceding works, and is one of the strongest swordmasters in that universe.

Well, I'm not sure if someone said before in MAL though, there are two mangas beofore Busou Shoujo Machiavellianism. It is in the same universe and there are some same characters in the three mangas.

In the preceding works, top 10 swordmasters in the country, "the number holders" fight against each other. And 2 years or some later, the three of "the number holders",

"No.2" Koharu
"No.3" Tsukuyo
"No.7" Yukino (the headmistress)

(plus Eva, Tsukuyo's maid) appear in Busou Shoujo.

(If you read the preceding mangas, you will understand why Tsukuyo wants to make friends in Busou Shoujo).


Preceding mangas? Titles?
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Jun 23, 2017 3:00 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Well I have to admit, with everything that came together..this finale did have one brutal fight.

Amou isn't showing any mercy while taking some hard hits to her face.
The fight itself felt predictable though imo with Amou's defeat. Well, at least we get to see a different side of her now.

THAT KISS


Isn't showing any mercy? But didn't Nomura said right after the final clash that Amou is still holding back with her auto counter? And then Amou put Nomura's hand to her chest and told him to finish it. Nomura didn't win imo she let her win
 
Jun 23, 2017 6:08 AM

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HiddenArmy said:

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dmrch said:

She is Tsukuyo's older sister, Koharu. She is the main antagonist of the preceding works, and is one of the strongest swordmasters in that universe.

Well, I'm not sure if someone said before in MAL though, there are two mangas beofore Busou Shoujo Machiavellianism. It is in the same universe and there are some same characters in the three mangas.

In the preceding works, top 10 swordmasters in the country, "the number holders" fight against each other. And 2 years or some later, the three of "the number holders",

"No.2" Koharu
"No.3" Tsukuyo
"No.7" Yukino (the headmistress)

(plus Eva, Tsukuyo's maid) appear in Busou Shoujo.

(If you read the preceding mangas, you will understand why Tsukuyo wants to make friends in Busou Shoujo).


Mind to tell us the names of the 2 manga before this please ?

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Preceding mangas? Titles?


https://myanimelist.net/manga/10451/Shinakoi
https://myanimelist.net/manga/47987/Shinai_Mijikashi_Koiseyo_Otome

To summarize the two mangas, one day a kendo girl Sakura meets a strong swordmaster guy and gets involved in battles among "the number holders".

The school of Busou Shoujo was
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dmrch said:
HiddenArmy said:

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Mind to tell us the names of the 2 manga before this please ?

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Preceding mangas? Titles?


https://myanimelist.net/manga/10451/Shinakoi
https://myanimelist.net/manga/47987/Shinai_Mijikashi_Koiseyo_Otome

To summarize the two mangas, one day a kendo girl Sakura meets a strong swordmaster guy and gets involved in battles among "the number holders".

The school of Busou Shoujo was


Thanks but where can I read it? Can't find the 2ng manga. Found shinakoi but with only 6 chapters, Busou shoujo stopped updating after chapter 15
 
Jun 23, 2017 6:54 AM

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Should've changed Amou into a guy; then we could at least have some yaoi and traps in this shitfest, and pander to a few audiences. Also yeah, would've been a hilarious yaoi moment:
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Jun 23, 2017 7:26 AM

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Satisfying ending I guess, but the show was quite average in the end.

6/10.


 
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seconds_to_dere said:
Stark700 said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Well I have to admit, with everything that came together..this finale did have one brutal fight.

Amou isn't showing any mercy while taking some hard hits to her face.
The fight itself felt predictable though imo with Amou's defeat. Well, at least we get to see a different side of her now.

THAT KISS


Isn't showing any mercy? But didn't Nomura said right after the final clash that Amou is still holding back with her auto counter? And then Amou put Nomura's hand to her chest and told him to finish it. Nomura didn't win imo she let her win

I loved the show really. I was expecting that kiss thing in the end. But I don't believe that Amou went away, since the Airplane flew away? :D
 
Jun 23, 2017 1:32 PM

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Well, can't say I didn't expect this ending. I probably enjoyed this series a lot more than I was supposed to. Don't usually watch harems but this one was pretty good.
 
Jun 23, 2017 7:41 PM

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Holy shit... what an unwatchable anime.

I'm probably a SM to be able to get until the end.

The MC is annoying.
The (supposedly bad ass) girls are all a bunch of weaklings that eventually start to like the MC when they get defeated.
Very irritating.

Disappointing.

1/10
 
Jun 24, 2017 4:40 AM

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Thanks but where can I read it? Can't find the 2ng manga. Found shinakoi but with only 6 chapters, Busou shoujo stopped updating after chapter 15


Well, I don't know. I simply bought the mangas at a bookstore near my house and read them. But I guess the first 6 chapters are enough for you to understand it is the preceding manga.

- Koharu and Yukino's conspiracy
- The Jigen style swordsmanship
- The lethal invisible move, Un'you
- Much explanation about actual technique of actual Japanese swordsmanship

The theme is nothing changed.
 
 
Jun 24, 2017 10:10 AM

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Amou Super Ultra Yandere. I fanking love her
 
Jun 24, 2017 12:46 PM

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Amou kiss..........been hoping for it and was granted. Best Girl.

Decent show 8/10, liked the MC (kinda rare for harem show), the girls were good and sexy.
Best girl Amou got her kiss, 2nd best girl Satori got her kiss, what more to ask. Gonna check out manga, if it got tl'ed.
 
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dmrch said:
Kit_Le said:

Manga hasnt tell much about her. Just that she much stronger than Amou. And she the one forced Amou transfer to certain school under her name which show in the anime.
Nomura also supposes to transfer school. For upcoming arc2.
But anime changed it and make Nomura stay.


She is Tsukuyo's older sister, Koharu. She is the main antagonist of the preceding works, and is one of the strongest swordmasters in that universe.

Well, I'm not sure if someone said before in MAL though, there are two mangas beofore Busou Shoujo Machiavellianism. It is in the same universe and there are some same characters in the three mangas.

In the preceding works, top 10 swordmasters in the country, "the number holders" fight against each other. And 2 years or some later, the three of "the number holders",

"No.2" Koharu
"No.3" Tsukuyo
"No.7" Yukino (the headmistress)

(plus Eva, Tsukuyo's maid) appear in Busou Shoujo.

(If you read the preceding mangas, you will understand why Tsukuyo wants to make friends in Busou Shoujo).

I dont know there prequel. Thanks for infor. I will check it out.
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Kit_Le said:

Manga hasnt tell much about her. Just that she much stronger than Amou. And she the one forced Amou transfer to certain school under her name which show in the anime.
Nomura also supposes to transfer school. For upcoming arc2.
But anime changed it and make Nomura stay.


Is that the reason Amou leaves?

If Nomura stays in the Amine while he was supposed to transfer in themanga, does that mean there is not going to be a season 2 even if the manga proceeds?

Yeah, basically, they expell her and force her Transfer to Hokkai school. Nomura also forced transfer to Hokkai later chapter.
Idk, they can do season 2 and alter detail ez since there a lot reason force him transfer already. The problem is will the anime sell.
 
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To those who want to follow up with the manga: the anime covered roughly 33 chapters but I recommend that you start from the beginning so as to not miss the skipped/cut scenes. Happy reading!
From what I've seen, isn't there only 15 chapters that are translated atm? Or are you reading the raws?

Overall, this was surprisingly enjoyable, for the most part that is. Was a bit iffy on the animation at a couple of times, and the ending did seem a bit rushed, but was pretty decent overall. They made all the leads to be likable in the end, which I don't find very often (when I find a character(s) that I dislike, that is). I was a bit annoyed, however, at just how badly that Onigawara and Kikakujou just wouldn't leave him alone and were so focused on disciplining him, but oh well. And I did find it a bit stupid how the other guys in the school not only dressed like girls, but even went as far as playing the part. But nonetheless, in the end, as I said earlier, it was enjoyable enough for me to finish it so I guess that's all that matters. Overall, I'll leave this with a 5/10.


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Gem said:
In2TheBlu said:
To those who want to follow up with the manga: the anime covered roughly 33 chapters but I recommend that you start from the beginning so as to not miss the skipped/cut scenes. Happy reading!
From what I've seen, isn't there only 15 chapters that are translated atm? Or are you reading the raws?

Overall, this was surprisingly enjoyable, for the most part that is. Was a bit iffy on the animation at a couple of times, and the ending did seem a bit rushed, but was pretty decent overall. They made all the leads to be likable in the end, which I don't find very often (when I find a character(s) that I dislike, that is). I was a bit annoyed, however, at just how badly that Onigawara and Kikakujou just wouldn't leave him alone and were so focused on disciplining him, but oh well. And I did find it a bit stupid how the other guys in the school not only dressed like girls, but even went as far as playing the part. But nonetheless, in the end, as I said earlier, it was enjoyable enough for me to finish it so I guess that's all that matters. Overall, I'll leave this with a 5/10.


I was talking about the raws. We won't see a second season in less than 2 years for sure.
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Very sweet ending actually
Overall, this had a bit of a rough start but after the first couple of episodes, it began to find its groove and it continued to improve every episode, and it was actually pretty faithful to the manga as well
8/10
 
Jun 25, 2017 11:25 PM

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I like the ending of this show better than Rokudenashi.
love the aggressive kiss of Amou to Nomura.
Nomura looked so happy to go back to his alma mater! with everyone welcoming him!
4/5.
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Sry. but bear was the best girl in this show;/
 
Jun 27, 2017 12:16 PM
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meh series typical shitty harem stuff going on.

MC ended up annoying me by being so happy in one of the worst schools you could be in.
 
Jun 27, 2017 11:09 PM

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Lack of an interesting and unique plot? That's okay. Cute trope girls? I can look past that. Countless moments of "What the hell is even happening" that can grow on me.

Teleporting to the airport? Now that's some inexcusable bullshit...

Joking aside, this was a surprise for me. Didn't think I'd end up loving this as much as I do. It had the right combination of cute girls, comedy, and some pretty cool action. I can never get tired of these battle school anime.
6/10
 
 
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Tasukuu said:
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Does the manga go further than the anime?
Yes.


Why did he have to ? Sorry, there's no english translation for the latest chapers so can't read on unfortunately
 
Jun 29, 2017 8:57 PM

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So in the end Amou was just a super yandere chick who wanted Fudou to reciprocate her feelings.

--> Long black hair, tsurime, dress, tights, boots, ridiculously skilled in combat topped off with crazy yandere personality.

--> Fucking best girl confirmed.

The five thots of the school can kindly fuck off.
 
 
Jun 30, 2017 1:08 AM

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It was a predictable anime and very obvious. Every girl Nomura fought ended up being infatuated with him. Too bad he was not expelled.
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Jun 30, 2017 6:32 AM

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That final episode was satisfying and I enjoyed this anime overall.
So I'll rate this show a 7 out of 10 score overall.
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Well I enjoyed the series, but it was definitely different.

The ending was pretty satisfying, especially that kiss, Amou was so wet for him I just wanted it to happen.

While this did wrap up nicely, I wouldn't mind seeing a sequel; especially just to see where this is actually going. I mean, the whole basis of this series was for him to get 5 stamps so he didn't have to go to school. I can't help but feel there's a bigger plot to be had.

The action was pretty decent and the comedy hit more than it missed, also Onigawara is best. Overall a 7/10.
 
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I enjoyed the series, too bad most of the manga hasn't been translated yet. Glad to see they put the kiss in the anime though :)
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That was a surprisingly satisfying ending. Wasn't expecting that.
 
 
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I kinda feel sorry for Amou, all she needs is love, but once again typical dense MC doesn't have any clue, even after she kissed him at the airport, thats a bummer i wouldn't let her go if i was Nomura. She's the perfect example of Tsundere mixed with Yandere.

But still Onigawara Rin is the best girl among them, i actually ship them together


Overall score 7/10
 
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While Amou was really interesting character, her arc was rather weak.

As a whole it was much better anime than I expected after reading synopsis. Nice characters, especially protagonists, predictable but not boring story and enjoyable action. I can't complain.
 
Jul 18, 2017 12:17 PM

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Good last episode. To bad the previous episodes weren't as great as this one... This anime made me more annoyed than happy... 5/10.
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The last episodes were the best, it was nice to see a real rival. Good fight to end the anime.

It was an entertaining anime but nothing special. Too bad that we didn't see more Tamaba. At least, the MC is fun
 
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Is there gonna be a S2
 
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