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Jun 22, 2017 3:17 AM

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Was okay. 7/10. Nice action and most of the girls were okay. (5th and 1st one were best. Then the green-haired. Then Amou. And the 2 blond-haired are last in my ranking.)

Less good than other girls + fighting anime. (Which either are better with story/plot - like Strike the Blood - or better with Ecchi like female-only cast + clothes getting destroyed in Queen's Blade.)

I don't think I'd watch more (if there were more seasons in the future). But depends on how the story continues. New girl at the phone seemed interesting. I'd had preferred if there were fights between schools and Amou + other girls + MC allying. Seems it will stay in the school and MC vs girls and later that girl we saw on the phone with the headmistress.

Felt like that girl hat the most power (even controlling the headmistress). Maybe her joke wasn't even a real joke at first (and she really can't decide by herself but then tried to explain to that other girl who holds the real power).
 
 
Jun 22, 2017 3:22 AM
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Kit_Le said:

Manga hasnt tell much about her. Just that she much stronger than Amou. And she the one forced Amou transfer to certain school under her name which show in the anime.
Nomura also supposes to transfer school. For upcoming arc2.
But anime changed it and make Nomura stay.


Is that the reason Amou leaves?

If Nomura stays in the Amine while he was supposed to transfer in themanga, does that mean there is not going to be a season 2 even if the manga proceeds?
 
Jun 22, 2017 3:29 AM

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Jun 22, 2017 3:58 AM
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WHY DID AMOU LEAVE THE ACADEMY?
SHE IS THE BEST GIRL!
AMOU X FUDOU FTW!
Damn right . I dont need harem . Just choose amou . She the best girl >.<
 
Jun 22, 2017 4:35 AM
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davremedy said:
swirlydragon said:
WHY DID AMOU LEAVE THE ACADEMY?
SHE IS THE BEST GIRL!
AMOU X FUDOU FTW!
Damn right . I dont need harem . Just choose amou . She the best girl >.<
I agree with the both of you.
 
Jun 22, 2017 4:39 AM
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I already knew from the beginning that Amou is the best girl. Now i need more scene of her.
 
Jun 22, 2017 6:01 AM

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whyyy, just why that yandere girl go away.

Amou should ended up with Nomura
 
Jun 22, 2017 6:01 AM

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Kit_Le said:
Verzweif said:
And who's the girl talking to the headmistress on the phone?

Manga hasnt tell much about her. Just that she much stronger than Amou. And she the one forced Amou transfer to certain school under her name which show in the anime.
Nomura also supposes to transfer school. For upcoming arc2.
But anime changed it and make Nomura stay.


She is Tsukuyo's older sister, Koharu. She is the main antagonist of the preceding works, and is one of the strongest swordmasters in that universe.

Well, I'm not sure if someone said before in MAL though, there are two mangas beofore Busou Shoujo Machiavellianism. It is in the same universe and there are some same characters in the three mangas.

In the preceding works, top 10 swordmasters in the country, "the number holders" fight against each other. And 2 years or some later, the three of "the number holders",

"No.2" Koharu
"No.3" Tsukuyo
"No.7" Yukino (the headmistress)

(plus Eva, Tsukuyo's maid) appear in Busou Shoujo.

(If you read the preceding mangas, you will understand why Tsukuyo wants to make friends in Busou Shoujo).
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Jun 22, 2017 6:08 AM

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Eh the fight kind of felt rushed in the end, but everything wrapped up nicely and Nomura even got a kiss from Amou.

This show was kind of a mess for me, personally. It was basically just annoying bitches fighting Nomura week after week after week, a lot of times for seemingly no apparent reason. And sorry if I missed something, but what was the point of Amou's murderous rampage? Was there ever a specific reason for that? If not, then it seems like it was just thrown in there to make this series more edgy (I hate using buzzwords but that's the best way to describe it). At least the ending was somewhat decent, but the same can't be said for the whole show itself. 4/10.
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Jun 22, 2017 7:25 AM

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Saving the budget for the last ep XD
The fight was nice and amou going easy on nomura and taking a kiss as she goes :)
Nomura stays and becomes miko's student 8/10
 
Jun 22, 2017 7:38 AM

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loved it <3 sad that amou left but other than that it was very enjoyable to watch , 8-9/10
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Jun 22, 2017 7:54 AM

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eh . . . is that the last episode ?
are they sure ?




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Jun 22, 2017 7:57 AM

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That was very bad ngl. 3/10. Did they go past the manga?
Who did it better?

That Nomura scream was cheesy af too lol.

 
 
Jun 22, 2017 8:14 AM
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okay I kinda liked the ending...left me with a satisfying feeling
 
Jun 22, 2017 8:24 AM

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It ended up satisfyingly. And there's no more static animation of fighting for the last time, well done. 10/10 for this episode.

Overall, I already knew the story was good but the animation was shit. 5/5

 
Jun 22, 2017 9:04 AM

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Yeah, the end was alright, but not spectacular. I guess that's what happens when you go for an anime only ending.

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Jun 22, 2017 9:11 AM

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I really like Amou in the beginning just because of her character design. Long Black Hair, Black Socks that go all the way up, the Boots with heels, and just her look was pretty awesome. Then this arc happened and I fell in love with her even more. Amou, Rin, and Tamaba are the best girls easily. But man did Amou make a strong push for that number one spot with this episode. She was super cute in that dress at the end, and she even got that kiss!

Headmistress was pretty funny lol.

Frigging Kikokujou ruined a great moment at the end though. Why do two people need to watch over Nomura? Just let it be Rin and end it!

A good ending to an Average anime.
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Jun 22, 2017 9:15 AM

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What a cute ending. I wasn't quite sure how this anime would end up in the end, with the latter half of the season feeling a bit rushed, but I'm glad it finished the way it did.

The series itself wasn't amazing, but it definitely put a smile on my face at the end of the day, and for that, I enjoyed it thoroughly.

Definitely one of the better anime to come out this spring season; I ended up liking it a lot more than I thought I would coming in.
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Jun 22, 2017 9:40 AM

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That was a good final.

This was nothing groundbreaking, but overall a solid show with badass MC, definitely something to have fun with.

6/10
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Jun 22, 2017 9:51 AM

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Just the final I expected.

That 'Bang' tho
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Jun 22, 2017 11:02 AM

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Great end for this anime! The fight was awesome! The confession of love at the airport by Amou was good and the ending scene was a perfect way to end it all
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Jun 22, 2017 11:46 AM

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The fight was alright. Seems Amou deliberate chose to lose to MC she loves. And that kiss! Yes!! I like how she declared that MC only belongs to her XD

But that ending.. would've preferred if he was transferred too.
 
Jun 22, 2017 11:47 AM

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Jun 22, 2017 1:33 PM

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Ok now, I got pretty excited in this anime at first but starting from episode 10 everything felt so rushed and it's such a huge turn off for me. I was thinking about go to the manga after watch this episode but I guess I'll go from the beginning.

At the beginning of the series I was like "wow this could be good" then at the end I was like "uh......why do I even watch this anime?". It ruined all the curiosity I got from what type of a character Tsukuyo and Amou is, not enough character development for those two despite being probably the most interesting character traits in the series. I'm really disappointed at how this anime could've gone better.

Overall, it was still enjoyable for me, 7/10.
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Jun 22, 2017 2:04 PM

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Made me laugh, like all the girls. Sadly, nothing all that special.
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Jun 22, 2017 2:28 PM

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dmrch said:
Kit_Le said:

Manga hasnt tell much about her. Just that she much stronger than Amou. And she the one forced Amou transfer to certain school under her name which show in the anime.
Nomura also supposes to transfer school. For upcoming arc2.
But anime changed it and make Nomura stay.


She is Tsukuyo's older sister, Koharu. She is the main antagonist of the preceding works, and is one of the strongest swordmasters in that universe.

Well, I'm not sure if someone said before in MAL though, there are two mangas beofore Busou Shoujo Machiavellianism. It is in the same universe and there are some same characters in the three mangas.

In the preceding works, top 10 swordmasters in the country, "the number holders" fight against each other. And 2 years or some later, the three of "the number holders",

"No.2" Koharu
"No.3" Tsukuyo
"No.7" Yukino (the headmistress)

(plus Eva, Tsukuyo's maid) appear in Busou Shoujo.

(If you read the preceding mangas, you will understand why Tsukuyo wants to make friends in Busou Shoujo).


Mind to tell us the names of the 2 manga before this please ?
 
Jun 22, 2017 2:48 PM

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Nobody's gonna confuse this for any kind of masterpiece (except for some of that kikakujou art, goodness), but it tried to be *fun* when so many other shows put in ill-fitting drama that they can't write anyway. Honestly pretty cheesy, but we're watching cartoons aimed at 15-year olds so w/e, 7/10, would watch more.
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Jun 22, 2017 3:36 PM

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That tie pull kiss was hot. 8/10 I will definitely read the manga
 
Jun 22, 2017 5:41 PM

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Seems all the budget went to that Amou vs. nomura might and it had a ton of still frames. I ejoyed them smacking each other though.

An okay serires. Final episodes were imo the best episodes. It had a good start but it seemed to dip down on the middle because of the formula. I wouldn't mind an s2 since the manga is still publishing.

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Amou could have been a better character if she were an interesting Rival instead of a Jealous Yandere bitch. It could have been better if it was Onigawara the one that got that kiss Imo, she deserved it more (fuck that blonde girl, she ruined the moment when Nomura encountered Onigawara)

overall a disappointment


This. Hardly worth typing in on gelbooru, honestly. Typical harem esque show. Whatever decent action to be had was broken and muddled through constant cutouts, flashbacks, and exposition. The only character that didn't seem to fall for the whole "I think suddenly like this guy" was the one with the bear and stupid ass laugh, even one else was either broken and fixed by him or dickmatized. It was fun 10 years ago. But with every show having this format, good or bad you have to really overcompensate else where in order to be memorable. Something this show didn't even try.
 
 
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HereticHunter said:
Amou could have been a better character if she were an interesting Rival instead of a Jealous Yandere bitch. It could have been better if it was Onigawara the one that got that kiss Imo, she deserved it more (fuck that blonde girl, she ruined the moment when Nomura encountered Onigawara)

overall a disappointment


This. Hardly worth typing in on gelbooru, honestly. Typical harem esque show. Whatever decent action to be had was broken and muddled through constant cutouts, flashbacks, and exposition. The only character that didn't seem to fall for the whole "I think suddenly like this guy" was the one with the bear and stupid ass laugh, even one else was either broken and fixed by him or dickmatized. It was fun 10 years ago. But with every show having this format, good or bad you have to really overcompensate else where in order to be memorable. Something this show didn't even try.


Indeed, the girl with the bear was the most likeable girl of the show. And I get what you mean, there are anime with a generic setting that can overcome the typical formula, but is something that most of them doesn't even try
Just give them a pair of over sized breasts and a happy ending and they'll oink for more every time


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Jun 22, 2017 7:25 PM

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Whatever with the hate. This was a fun show to watch week to week. Shows of this template are a dime a dozen but this one was entertaining and had some flare to it.
 
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Jun 22, 2017 8:09 PM

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Well I'm satisfied with both the story and the ending so I'll give it 7/10. This anime never bore me with every episodes and I really like Amou tbh sad to see her leave in the end.
 
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I liked it overall. I would've liked to have seen Nomura pull his sneak around trick on Amou as she turns to leave in the airport. I like those two together more than any other pairing. All that punching was just foreplay... or maybe second date? Whatever it may be, I'm pretty sure now they're engaged.

Seems like there's room for more... given the introduction to another crazy eyed girl. If the story ends here, it's at an okay place to do so.
 
 
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This show was pretty good for what it was and one of the few of it's kind to actually offer proper closure ~ I definitely wouldn't expect a S2 from this.

Amou & Nomura are just made for each other,although they might butt heads since they're both non-submissive types. They were enjoying themselves so much beating each other up~ could you imagine them having sex?

 
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Is it just me or Girls with long green hair are psychotic in anime world.
 
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dmrch said:
Kit_Le said:

Manga hasnt tell much about her. Just that she much stronger than Amou. And she the one forced Amou transfer to certain school under her name which show in the anime.
Nomura also supposes to transfer school. For upcoming arc2.
But anime changed it and make Nomura stay.


She is Tsukuyo's older sister, Koharu. She is the main antagonist of the preceding works, and is one of the strongest swordmasters in that universe.

Well, I'm not sure if someone said before in MAL though, there are two mangas beofore Busou Shoujo Machiavellianism. It is in the same universe and there are some same characters in the three mangas.

In the preceding works, top 10 swordmasters in the country, "the number holders" fight against each other. And 2 years or some later, the three of "the number holders",

"No.2" Koharu
"No.3" Tsukuyo
"No.7" Yukino (the headmistress)

(plus Eva, Tsukuyo's maid) appear in Busou Shoujo.

(If you read the preceding mangas, you will understand why Tsukuyo wants to make friends in Busou Shoujo).


Preceding mangas? Titles?
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Well I have to admit, with everything that came together..this finale did have one brutal fight.

Amou isn't showing any mercy while taking some hard hits to her face.
The fight itself felt predictable though imo with Amou's defeat. Well, at least we get to see a different side of her now.

THAT KISS


Isn't showing any mercy? But didn't Nomura said right after the final clash that Amou is still holding back with her auto counter? And then Amou put Nomura's hand to her chest and told him to finish it. Nomura didn't win imo she let her win
 
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HiddenArmy said:

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dmrch said:

She is Tsukuyo's older sister, Koharu. She is the main antagonist of the preceding works, and is one of the strongest swordmasters in that universe.

Well, I'm not sure if someone said before in MAL though, there are two mangas beofore Busou Shoujo Machiavellianism. It is in the same universe and there are some same characters in the three mangas.

In the preceding works, top 10 swordmasters in the country, "the number holders" fight against each other. And 2 years or some later, the three of "the number holders",

"No.2" Koharu
"No.3" Tsukuyo
"No.7" Yukino (the headmistress)

(plus Eva, Tsukuyo's maid) appear in Busou Shoujo.

(If you read the preceding mangas, you will understand why Tsukuyo wants to make friends in Busou Shoujo).


Mind to tell us the names of the 2 manga before this please ?

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Preceding mangas? Titles?


https://myanimelist.net/manga/10451/Shinakoi
https://myanimelist.net/manga/47987/Shinai_Mijikashi_Koiseyo_Otome

To summarize the two mangas, one day a kendo girl Sakura meets a strong swordmaster guy and gets involved in battles among "the number holders".

The school of Busou Shoujo was
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Mind to tell us the names of the 2 manga before this please ?

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Preceding mangas? Titles?


https://myanimelist.net/manga/10451/Shinakoi
https://myanimelist.net/manga/47987/Shinai_Mijikashi_Koiseyo_Otome

To summarize the two mangas, one day a kendo girl Sakura meets a strong swordmaster guy and gets involved in battles among "the number holders".

The school of Busou Shoujo was


Thanks but where can I read it? Can't find the 2ng manga. Found shinakoi but with only 6 chapters, Busou shoujo stopped updating after chapter 15
 
 
Jun 23, 2017 6:54 AM

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Should've changed Amou into a guy; then we could at least have some yaoi and traps in this shitfest, and pander to a few audiences. Also yeah, would've been a hilarious yaoi moment:
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Satisfying ending I guess, but the show was quite average in the end.

6/10.


 
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seconds_to_dere said:
Stark700 said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Well I have to admit, with everything that came together..this finale did have one brutal fight.

Amou isn't showing any mercy while taking some hard hits to her face.
The fight itself felt predictable though imo with Amou's defeat. Well, at least we get to see a different side of her now.

THAT KISS


Isn't showing any mercy? But didn't Nomura said right after the final clash that Amou is still holding back with her auto counter? And then Amou put Nomura's hand to her chest and told him to finish it. Nomura didn't win imo she let her win

I loved the show really. I was expecting that kiss thing in the end. But I don't believe that Amou went away, since the Airplane flew away? :D
 
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Well, can't say I didn't expect this ending. I probably enjoyed this series a lot more than I was supposed to. Don't usually watch harems but this one was pretty good.
 
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Holy shit... what an unwatchable anime.

I'm probably a SM to be able to get until the end.

The MC is annoying.
The (supposedly bad ass) girls are all a bunch of weaklings that eventually start to like the MC when they get defeated.
Very irritating.

Disappointing.

1/10
 
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seconds_to_dere said:

Thanks but where can I read it? Can't find the 2ng manga. Found shinakoi but with only 6 chapters, Busou shoujo stopped updating after chapter 15


Well, I don't know. I simply bought the mangas at a bookstore near my house and read them. But I guess the first 6 chapters are enough for you to understand it is the preceding manga.

- Koharu and Yukino's conspiracy
- The Jigen style swordsmanship
- The lethal invisible move, Un'you
- Much explanation about actual technique of actual Japanese swordsmanship

The theme is nothing changed.
 
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Amou Super Ultra Yandere. I fanking love her
 
 
Jun 24, 2017 12:46 PM

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Amou kiss..........been hoping for it and was granted. Best Girl.

Decent show 8/10, liked the MC (kinda rare for harem show), the girls were good and sexy.
Best girl Amou got her kiss, 2nd best girl Satori got her kiss, what more to ask. Gonna check out manga, if it got tl'ed.
 
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