A PSA to my fellow MAL anime reviewers

romagia said:
and the biggest culture shock of all is that you will find people who non ironically like mahouka

Ckan said:
>likes rakudai
>hates mahouka
I see your problem, and it is shit taste in light novel schlock

romagia said:
also i dont think that ln battle school harem anime inhibit the flourishing of "anime that actually have passion and creativity"; they're like 2 completely separate ecosystems

romagia said:
and the biggest culture shock of all is that you will find people who non ironically like mahouka

worldeditor11 said:


I like Mahouka till I even read the Light Novels. Is this a bad thing?

CodeBlazeFate said:
In summation, we do not all have some absurd standard for anime, we just want these kinds of titles to die out so that anime that actually have passion and creativity can more easily flourish, and even by the standards of the now incessant LN school battle harem anime, some can go beyond the expectations or fail to even meet such bottom of the barrel standards.

Manaban said:

Maybe this is why I dislike it when people have your outlook rather than that I think your standards and priorities are absurd

Oh wait, I already knew that's exactly why I tend to view this negatively to begin with

"We do not approve of it and we don't find it creative or passionate enough so therefore we want it to disappear so we can have more things we like since what we like is good and what you like is bad"

SpaceJakey said:
I agree with YOUR OPINION that Akashic Records is not a good show. I don't agree with the rest of what you said. Some people rate shows by how much they enjoyed them. As long as that is allowed ratings are going to vary drastically from person to person. It is foolish to expect someone with a different opinion than you to not call you out on your tastes when you say negative things about something they enjoy. Defending the things you like is human nature. By reviewing things publicly you open yourself up to criticism as well.

CodeBlazeFate said:
While yes, we would like to see more titles with creative heart and passion, we don't simply hate a show automatically because it looks generic. We hate it because it doesn't try. We don't like shows that only exist to pander to the lowest common denominator either any effort put into them besides making them a thing. You're ironically fitting into the mindset I'm describing, thinking that we automatically need a show to be high arc. We wish that more shows stopped pandering to a niche within a niche, but even among those shows, there are ones that put effort into things and ones that don't.

Manaban said:

I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm just irritated with your express desire to be to cause shows that don't fit to your standard to die out. I don't care whether or not you like or dislike them, I don't care about what you do like and don't like, I don't care about any of that and I'm not going to get pissed off because you wrote a negative review on something like this and bombard your profile with hate comments or some dumb shit like that, which I do not and will not approve of even when the person seems to have purposefully instigated it. I don't care if you hate it or why you hate it, even, since it can be pretty safely inferred and I'm not at all interested in wasting my time and energy discussing opinions that have been reiterated ad nauseam unless it's a point I feel needs to be argued to begin with, and this is a case where I don't feel compelled to argue it based on it alone. I feel no need to defend Akashic Records from any kind of criticism one may have of it to begin with even though I myself like it, and that goes for most shows like it as well.

No, you're just projecting onto me a desire to hate you because you think I perceive you to have standards when I didn't say jack shit of that sort. I'm annoyed with your express desire to be to cause things that I like to die out entirely because they don't live up to your standards. Watch it, criticize it, hate it - I don't care about any of that. It's immensely arrogant and stupid to say that "What we want to do is rip things you like away from you because we don't like them" while having the audacity to act like people *shouldn't* perceive you as an asshat for saying as much.

It makes everything you say about "its ok if you like it :3" seem like hollow bullshit, to put it bluntly.

Robiiii said:
"Recycled content"
I find it a bit hypocritical that u complain about recycled content when u have a stack of mecha shows just lined up and those are totally super original n shit.

I guess u want original anime. Well lets remove all shows that even remotely similar to one another, and keep only the "super original" ones. How much would u have? Like 10.

Sometimes its nice to see an already used concept with a fresh twist.
Im not saying anything bout Akashic Records btw, coz idgas

RainShift said:
No, you don't want better more passionate anime to be made that's just a load of bs. You just want more anime like your favourites to be made. Don't disguise it as you wanting what's best for the industry.

I agree with all your other points but don't try and make it into something it's not. The anime are shit you don't like them, end of story. Don't talk about wanting more passion and creativity.

CodeBlazeFate said:
You're twisting my words to say "there should no longer be these kinds of shows because we don't think they live up to our standards which butthurt fanboys claim to be unreasonable", when all I am saying is "while we would wish that less shows like this are lumped out, not only do we still see it reasonable for someone to enjoy these shows for whatever reason, but we only hate when people act like pretentious and closed-minded dickwads because we called their show not good".

CodeBlazeFate said:


In summation, we do not all have some absurd standard for anime, we just want these kinds of titles to die out so that anime that actually have passion and creativity can more easily flourish, and even by the standards of the now incessant LN school battle harem anime, some can go beyond the expectations or fail to even meet such bottom of the barrel standards.

CodeBlazeFate said:
You're making people like us our to be some sort of villain because we see so many of these shows and think "man, wouldn't it be great if there were more shows that tried something different and while these shows started not being shipped out yearly by the dozens?" I'm basically roesring jysekf st than pijrnbur wharnim actually saying is: like them all you want, just don't paint us as some prick just because we think this one show is as bad or worse than a lot of this kind of show we don't care for.

CodeBlazeFate said:
I agree her people can enjoy them, I specifically said that they have every right to do that. I just want more of them to keep an open mind and not ironically be closed-minded by saying that "you hate the show probably because "reason x since I didn't read your review" so you suck and your views are incorrect".

Ckan said:
Bemoans ignorance, proceeds to make assumptions and blanket statements about shows he hasn't seen (darn damn those vindictive piles of shit, I say!)

Proceeds to pontificate on an ephemeral cohort of unoriginal copypasta anime punctuated with inseminating put-downs.


Oh, what a refreshing desire! The ever-pure longing for the tantalising sublime; empowering innovation and invigorating creativity - for what greater reward could we ask! Oh, how dare the world condemn us for our sincere and worthy motive? Scorn not this man for his benign lust. His barbed presence and stiff lip is but the form of the enthusiast who seeks that ever higher pleasure: he is the greatest fan, the truest one; a seeker of perfection.

Manaban said:



Where exactly did I twist any of that?

And why do you keep trying to make this into a matter of tastes and standards when I have outright told you that it has nothing to do with my issue I have with you here, and that my issue was stuff like that statement which I isolated from your "PSA" rant?


No, I'm making you specifically out to be the villain because you outright pushed to take things away from people who like them because you don't think they're creative enough.

Did you literally not read my response to you where I spent an entire paragraph talking about how I don't think it's right for people to talk shit to people like you and that I don't care about what you like or dislike or want to see? That I'm fine with you pushing for more things you like to see being implicitly stated? That I just take major issue with your bullshit act of "we think its ok but we just don't like them :3" whenever you fucked up and showed your hand a bit too much by saying "What we just want to do is kill off everything like this so more stuff we want can come into the fray" making any sort of respect you act like you have for people such as me seem like a complete act? It's extremely difficult to believe that you view anybody other than yourself and people like you as reasonable whenever you wrote a long, projecting-en-masse self-victimizing rant that accused everybody of thinking you're a prick, especially when you say shit that would make people think you're a prick like I isolated in my first response.

Darek said:
what is wrong with pandering to the niche? Even shows that are "elitist" often pander to its own niche as well, there is a reason why shows like tatami galaxy are unpopular they are very clearly aimed at a niche audience and most people won't enjoy it let alone ever give it a try. I would much MUCH rather anime that pander to smaller audience, because they are made for someone. Shows made for everyone are often in the end made for no one in specific, they are often made safe with no risk taken and so on, rhey are often boring for the most people unless someone can catch somethig that they would enjoy but even then what gives this will be enough?

CodeBlazeFate said:
Proceeds to misinterpret my point because I said I don't like when people lash or at other for having a different opinion (when I have seen many examples of this happen).

Proceeds to think that all we want is high art when j specifically we just want more shows to try harder, regardless of the outcome (since we will still hit those shows too if we don't like them or if they still crash and burn). Proceeds to portray me as a snob by only using the Shakespeare dialogue as if I was a tragedy protagonist on the verge of falling from grace.

SpaceJakey said:
Yeah...what I'm saying is that it's absurd to say someone has bad taste in anime and then be surprised when they say you have bad taste in anime. You understand that is essentially what you are doing when you say, "this show is bad" to someone who thinks the show is actually good. So by doing a public review, you are opening yourself to criticism of your taste in anime. If you can't handle this then I suggest not reviewing things publicly.

Kagami said:


You have really poor social skills. I don't mean that as a jab, but damn you lash out and sound like such a drag and you don't even realize it. Listen, your opinion on anime holds no value. You haven't seen much and are hardly a veteran. Your way of talking to people holds a lot to be desired and your attitude is lousy. Go make your club to trash bad anime and come back when you take a few chill pills. Usually when multiple KNOWN posters gang up on one person, there is a logical reason.

Imaishi said:
"Shows shouldn't exist if they are nothing but recycled content", ok I don't necessarily agree with that, as not every show has to aim to be a piece of art, but I can understand the notion. How does Rakudai even come to the equation here? This is a prime example of a show that is NOTHING but old tropes, boring characters that you have seen tens of times before, an overused setting and, in general, is everything you describe as something that needs to die out. It's not a bad show IMO, but it's everything but original. It's just a well polished product.

Even Akashic records that seem to be the reason you started the thread is way more original than Rakudai.

And fuck, really, great way to start a discussion. 'Fucking assholes', 'ignorant pieces of shit' huh, you sure know how to talk man.

CodeBlazeFate said:
Assuming that I automatically have poor social skills solely because A.I called our people with a divisive viewpoint on people who just have a different or negative opinion on a certain show and B.Because I come off as angry because of that is sort of jumping the gun, regardless of how true it is. I admit that at best, all I'm doing is just saying "how about we not attack people who hate a certain show and make assumptions about their standards" and at worst I'm inviting...well, all of this. I'm not gonna change anything other than at most a few people's perspective on people who dislike what they like and I'm certainly not gonna do anything big with this. I do realize that I am basically just blowing my top off at this topic (I knew that going in and realized that all of this was boudn to happen).

Fally-Senpai said:
(THIS MAY BE A LONG WINDED COMMENT, I'M KIND OF TIRED BUT)

I read this & while I can agree with you that titles fitting into these specific categories can break the mold, kind of like what you had brought up with Rakudai for instance- I kind of.. disagree with the rest of the mindset.

I get where you're coming from, you want shows to try harder. YOU do, I don't know how many others do exactly, since it's a bit different for everyone. You probably want them to try harder at something that someone already thinks they're doing quite well, but then they may want it to try harder in another area.

Let's say for instance, you might want a show that excels in having a somewhat refreshing story-line, but then another person might want it to do a lot with it's characters because they feel as though the characters are the best part of the show & that for a let's say.. 12 episode series of it's nature, it could attempt to do a bit more.

But while you may want that, if you don't get it, then just move onto the next anime. I'm not going to say that the anime is the problem, but it's sort of like.. you're the problem. You are the viewer & when you watch things, if you feel a show isn't doing something, but someone else does, then it's a matter of opinion at the end of the day, that's all it boils down to.

I do think it's a bit extreme of you to say that shows of these kind should die out, because honestly, I feel as though I can have a bit of fun with them depending on the perspective I watch them from. I may have the same problem as you in a sense, I do want a show to try harder, but for an entirely different reason.

I don't know if this will matter much in regards to the topic here, but you aren't fond of anime catering to one specific group of people or even just those who are fond of series done in that style, where as for me, I'm not fond of anime having a bunch of "ideas" present within them, then not expanding upon them when they could have. Needless to say, a lot of those ideas might not necessarily make the show better, it just would have been nice if they attempted to go somewhere with it where they aren't specifically following the source material, but most series that do stray away from the source material in question, often enough, whatever staff members are working on it tend to create something entirely different that wasn't presented in the show up until that point they decided to introduce it.

See what I'm getting at kind of? (It's like 5am, I'm pretty tired & may have went somewhere else with it entirely)

But what I'm getting at is that everybody wants something different. You've made it clear what you don't want, but maybe someone else does want that. I know for sure that I like simple anime that are just easy to sit down & watch, but then again.. I'm not critical of an anime until I complete it. From the moment I start it until I finish it, I am not a Negative Nancy, it's only afterwards when I collect my thoughts on the series that I am one, but I still don't wish for the end of a certain kind of series, it's just I'd rather have less of it in a season, since I'd rather have a lot of diversity in a season instead of 3-8 anime with the same genres, although some of them might actually be different, which brings up a good point of them expanding upon the ideas that they themselves, tend to introduce. Rakudai, although I haven't finished it, is one that kind of expanded upon the ideas it was introducing, but to me, it's feeling a bit rushed, which is something I'm used to.

But you know, with what your original post at hand is on about, something that I feel may be apart of your problem, because I keep thinking about what you had stated here. I think your problem may be that you limit yourself. A lot of anime come out per season, like 30 or 40. I feel that one way to solve your problem is to watch more anime within a season. Spend one whole season, instead of watching highly rated shows that aired years ago, try sitting down & watching only seasonal anime, stick to them & watch series that are apart of the specific genre that may not be to your preference. It's surprising how you may feel afterwards. I did it once before when I felt burned out on anime and surprisingly enough, I came to notice more within the anime that I told myself I didn't like as opposed to the ones I do like. It's all about perspectives & preferences.

zal said:
I heard that Code Geass is a recycled gundam wings.

Darek said:
insane amount? Those shows are not nearly even near as common as people make them out to be, just looking at the charts can be enough to see it.

I just checked the next season and I have found only one, ONE harem that was announced so far and the season starts soon and that is not even a magical highchool battle harem, it is a isekai harem. Sure they can simply not be done with adding genres but even then, there is nowhere near as many.

Those shows are far from popular, even tho they appear in nearly every season they do not appear in any significant amount. They could be easily avoided if someone even looked at the tags and the synopsis if someone wants to avoid them and as always, there are older shows to consider and watch too.

You said:
Did someone just rant upon your review on Akashic records? Ask @zergneedsfood on how to handle it, he used to receive a lot of hate from his Shelter negative reviews.

CodeBlazeFate said:
I've seen people make review that slam the community or people who don't like s certain show in general, and there have been a few reviews of this show that have targeted people (nor really me, but LIQ and Stark to be specific). I've just hit a breaking point with seeing such vindictive, closed-minded, and frankly hypocritical ignorance in those kinds of defies and posts.

You said:
How about reporting it to the review mod? An ad hominem review isn't allowed here I think.