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Jun 13, 10:24 PM

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Okay, while I could have done without another sexualised massage scene, the rest of the episode more than made up for it, especially that absolute bombshell of an ending. It's sad though that it's just so damn obvious that things are going to go to hell next episode, which is appropriate after that revelation of the Beasts' origins, but it's definitely incredibly depressing to say the least.
 
Jun 13, 10:25 PM

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derprume said:
Two episodes left!



What! There're already 4 volumes of SukaMoka? What are the translators even doing!
 
Jun 13, 10:27 PM

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AHH! I LOVE THIS SO MUCH!

I love Chtholly so I love the scenes in this like the scene with Chtholly near the end, and there's a lot of them which is great!
 
Jun 13, 10:30 PM

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Willem during the massage "No lewd thoughts, NO lewd thoughts, NO LEWD THOUGHTS!!!" lol
I really like the how Chtholly got the whole ship crew cleaning that was pretty funny! Willem discovers that the beasts may have been humans that became infected by some type of bioweapon and that makes him shutter. Also Chtholly gets a name from her visions "Lillia" and things get more interesting on that front as well. BUT...the best part of this episode was when Willem said "Marry me." OMG I've been waiting to hear that for a while and it was so heartwarmingly sweet I was so happy! I can't wait to see what happens next with the preview showing the underground scavenger party getting torn to shreds by the beasts it looks like next weeks episode will take on a more serious role
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Jun 13, 10:53 PM
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Well it's not easy to translate the light novel, as for now the translation for the light novel just reach volume 5 chapter 3 part 4. So i predict the translator will start translate SukaMoka around October 2017 or December 2017
 
Jun 13, 10:57 PM

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So can I say that the premise of human extinction is somewhat akin to what happened in God Eater then? A secret human experiment gone horribly wrong and the results spreading out of control?

Willem looks like he's at his breaking point after his realization of the facts. The marriage proposal and all the antics before that were so cute and SoL like, but once the truth set in, the death flags started jumping out of the wood works faster than you could say "shit".

The mid episode reveal about the connection between the red-haired brave, Elq from the past and Ctholly was surprising, but not unexpected. Always suspected a connection between the beasts that were conquered and the Leprechauns, though it begs the question of just how many beasts have been slain in order for them to have so many little girls right now. Does it mean that it doesn't have to be a great Beast in order to create a Leprechaun?

From the looks of the post-ED scene, things are about to go downhill fast.
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Jun 13, 11:08 PM
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Is it uncommon for a man to give a massage to a woman? Despite how suggestive the massage scenes look, Willem is pretty baller to do it with a straight face. And Chtholly impressing the crew with cleaning and sewing. It's nice to see how everyone supports the couple.

Willem realizing the truth of the beasts, remembering his past family, and then embracing Chtholly out of fear...When your heart is racing like that, holding someone close and tightly feels like the natural thing to do. Well done. And no more waiting. Propose now before it's too late!

Now what scares me the most is Chtholly's vision. She saw Lillia, and Chtholly was looking at her in Elq's point of view. Lillia was there to kill Elq...to kill Chtholly? My prediction is getting closer to coming true. Please don't let it be so...

Also, I didn't say this before, but I have never skipped the ED, and I have to say that the song suits this anime very well. After the episode gets you to be really feeling it, the song is like a breath of fresh air, but it feels so melancholic at the same time...
 
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mozgow said:
When Rhan asked "From what humans created monsters?" I thought to myself "From... humans". And I was right :-)

So Lillia killed Elq, but she wouldn't kill a human child, right? So that means Elq was a human child turned into monster, right? If that's the case then were other fairies created in the same way?


re-watch epi 10,Rhan casually drops a reveal/clue that very much pertains to Elq.

Should point out how Elq's voice was shown to be injuring Lillia,also in an earlier episode, Willem mentions he and his friends fought their final battle against an visitor.

@derprume

Sorry dodgemoto_23 is right,and you may want to wait before getting spoilers for SukaMoka :)


@ L-Ryoshi & @ Tarotist

Part of the confusion/misconception can be blamed on how the author adapted his novel.

Lillia is pretty much being just dumped unto viewers,and by using a scene pulled from the final novel to boot,quite a bit of Lillia's story has not been told.

This pertains to the author love of dribbling out bits&pcs of the reveals on the girls&the 17 Beasts in the novel. He has carried this over into the anime without providing much context-Suwong's explanation of the girls creation is well, incomplete for example.
The author has moved the Lillia v Elq scene from the final volume to seemingly, give viewers the "final" reveal on what the girls are.

The creation of the 17 Beasts is outside of what the anime will adapt.talking the 4th volume and Sukamoka.

Anathor said:


I wonder how they are going to adapt a certain part, given the fact that they anticipated the expedition done by the technitian. But from the op's memory image they showed something hinting about the fact that they will still add it in somehow.


This episode has a landing party of red shirts nosing about,and in the background is ice,so I expect that scene to be played out next week.

(hoping daughter gets her screen time )

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Jun 14, 12:25 AM

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Nordhammer said:
mozgow said:
When Rhan asked "From what humans created monsters?" I thought to myself "From... humans". And I was right :-)

So Lillia killed Elq, but she wouldn't kill a human child, right? So that means Elq was a human child turned into monster, right? If that's the case then were other fairies created in the same way?


re-watch epi 10,Rhan casually drops a reveal/clue that very much pertains to Elq.

Should point out how Elq's voice was shown to be injuring Lillia,also in an earlier episode, Willem mentions he and his friends fought their final battle against an visitor.

I was already told about that and posted my thoughts here (scratch the last point, I was told what the case is).
 
Jun 14, 1:11 AM

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Great episode. Loved it.

Now that was some plot twist.
Is it safe to assume Lillia is dead? That Chtholly's dream got me confused.

Even if nothing really bad has happened so far, I love how anime evokes a sense of foreboding with every episode so far.
 
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I'm honestly really sad. I just found out this anime is only 12 episodes. And that the light novel hasn't been announced as being translated. Time to learn Japanese i suppose
 
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Is it safe to assume Lillia is dead?


Lillia is a human - Willem is the only survivor of humanity - Yeah, she is dead all a very long time, ago.

But it seems like she killed Elq before, so can we assume that Elq has recovered like the Skull thing does before ??

The only problem I have is that it was said that the corpse of an god (visitor ??) was taken to the village. Could it be the case that Elq only exist as a mental being without a real body anymore ?? Could it be that Elq is the mental hive of all Leprechaun ?? That all Leprechaun will meet her after their mind is about to die (like the way Chtholly did meet her ??)

Just a theory on my side, but it could be a special case with Chtholly because she is connected with Elq.
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Jun 14, 2:28 AM

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Cyanwasserstoff said:
FinalFlash18 said:

Is it safe to assume Lillia is dead?


Lillia is a human - Willem is the only survivor of humanity - Yeah, she is dead all a very long time, ago.


Ah yes, you're right. I was overthinking it too much >_>
 
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So the beasts were formally human?

That was a sudden proposal...
 
Jun 14, 2:38 AM

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Finally. Just finally.

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Jun 14, 2:43 AM
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Hahha william, merrid me
 
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Chtholly now has her own fan club xD It'd be sad if after all this she lost her memories entirely.
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@mozgow

Missed that post, sorry for repeating but hey gave it go without using spoilers :)
 
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Cyanwasserstoff said:
Could it be the case that Elq only exist as a mental being without a real body anymore ?? Could it be that Elq is the mental hive of all Leprechaun ?? That all Leprechaun will meet her after their mind is about to die (like the way Chtholly did meet her ??)




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So the beasts were formally human?



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Jun 14, 5:30 AM

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Bet the fanboys/girls had a field day with that scene


Yeah and then the next episode comes and they are left with despair, cursing the author
 
 
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NotaFire said:
I'm honestly really sad. I just found out this anime is only 12 episodes. And that the light novel hasn't been announced as being translated. Time to learn Japanese i suppose


The LN has been fan-translated up to the 4th volume and part of the 5th. (incidentally, the Chinese version has been completed)

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Jun 14, 7:17 AM

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After one night thinking, i could assimilate : ¨ He wants to get married before transform in a beast¨. Beginning this anime I was thinking : ¨they will die in a war¨ , but this situation is so sad. u.u
 
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sakamoto-kun said:
Dat erotic massage tho xD

Humans killing humans that plottwist ala Attack on Titan was quite shocking for Wilhelm. The tension during that scene was quite good.

But the following proposal came totally unexpected (was more surprised than Wilhelm a few moments earlier) and unfortunately I couldn't really feel it.

Overall it was a decent episode.


Some massive attack on titan spoilers right there... maybe put a spoiler tag or something.
 
Jun 14, 7:35 AM

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Dat erotic massage tho xD

Humans killing humans that plottwist ala Attack on Titan was quite shocking for Wilhelm. The tension during that scene was quite good.

But the following proposal came totally unexpected (was more surprised than Wilhelm a few moments earlier) and unfortunately I couldn't really feel it.

Overall it was a decent episode.


Some massive attack on titan spoilers right there... maybe put a spoiler tag or something.


Even if I would put a tag on it named Attack on Titan it wouldn't be much better, and I think most people actually know about it since season one and the Female Titan. But thanks for your concern.
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I thought Williem and the others use their dug weapon to fight against the "monsters" like the one that only have his head right now (the one that help the wizard to float the island and the one Williem fight before he was frozen)? What are these monsters? Demons? Aliens? And after that the Beast appear and destroy the world.

Braves used dug weapons against anyone church ordered them to kill (other races, other humans, aliens...). Monster with only head is alien, one of Elq guardians whose body was destroyed by Williem. When aliens came, they cursed immortal beasts and turned them to humans.
 
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Nice proposal, it was extremely cute and well done. Still, this episode was the calm before the storm. Get ready for the feels in the next two, because there is going to be a lot of them. Unless it's an anime original happy ending which I don't see happening with the death flags just casually flying by and making me depressed.
 
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So both the monsters and fairies are created from humans. This fact raises many questions and theories for me.

1. Lilia was fighting for her love who is presumed to be "Willem"?

2. Since Lilia was fighting Elq, was Elq not human?
Is so, then Chtholly is not Elq reincarnated?

3. Is Chtholly actually Lilia?
Since both Elq and Lilia were red hair, it was a way to throw us off. The memory Chtholly had actullay was her being Lilia interacting with Elq? So Lilia (now Chtholly) and Willem reunite after 500 years? This will be a nice twist and sweet story.
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Between finding out the truth about the beasts and knowing that without a doubt, somebody I love is gonna die, I dunno which is more fucked up

I can't even enjoy the ending scene between Holly and Will because of all the death flags they raised lol >.<

All questions that I was wondering about this episode


i also was wondering
can some ln reader answer these? (even if its a spoiler)

1)yes
2)BIG SPOILER SO BE WARNED

3)
Thats what I remember from the top of my head, I am sure i left out some details but thats the summary

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Two episodes left!

no BIG SUKASUKA AND SUKAMOKA SPOILER BE WARNED
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Sigh the miss-information being handed out as spoilers.

Several folks should think about re-reading the novel and make some corrections.

In particular information given about the 17 Beasts is just plain wrong in several comments.



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What are the Half-Life Barnacles doing in this anime.

Is this actually Half-Life in the future ? xd
 
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i really hate wilheim overdramatic spasm
and we suisei gargantia now
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It won't end well... The revelation regarding the origin of the beasts was grim.
 
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I love the world building. It's really fantastic.
 
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nice proposal, didn't expected it coming.
So Elq isn't Illia, I thought her as younger Elq since they're both red hair a separate existence, kinda confusing, I'm eager to know the truth.
2 episodes left, I feel something really bad coming, preparing for the feels.
 
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i really hate wilheim overdramatic spasm
and we suisei gargantia now


So Wilhelm realizing this whole time that the beasts being killed are former humans from his time, he shouldn't freak out like a decent human being.

Utterly laughable opinion. Seriously.
 
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Oh boy! More massages just like I wanted!

We've also got more death flags so this was quite an episode.
 
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Rhantolk is such a bad attitude towards Willem but as soon as she was massaged by Willem such hentai moans we could only hear!
Chtholly has seen the weakest side of Willem again.
Another burst of emotions hug of Willem to Chtholly!
then suddenly Willem proposed to Chtholly! oh man! this is really hurting to see...
Well...that was an awkward way to suddenly end the episode and go to ED instantly.
4/5.
 
Jun 16, 7:35 PM
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Almost had tears in my eyes. :') I'm in love with the simplicity of this anime -- Chtholly and Willem's relationship is so unbearably beautiful, as are her past memories locked up inside her.

Wish this was a VN instead of an LN... would have played it without a doubt.
 
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So, the deeper you stare at the abyss, it stares the same way back at you eh?
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Would die for this loli XD. Btw so the loli red haired girl is evil?
 
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Would be interesting if Ctholy told Willem about seeing Lillia etc. But overall i really liked this show, and especialy soundtrack is really great.
 
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Would be interesting if Ctholy told Willem about seeing Lillia etc. But overall i really liked this show, and especialy soundtrack is really great.


Even though she saw Lillia she wouldn't tell it apart from every other random memory flash, since Willem never told her anything specific about his past
 
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Lillia and Chtolly, it might mean Lillia was the previous life of Chtolly and she killed Elq who left a "curse" on her future reincarnations?

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Two episodes left!



What! There're already 4 volumes of SukaMoka? What are the translators even doing!
 
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Lillia and Chtolly, it might mean Lillia was the previous life of Chtolly and she killed Elq who left a "curse" on her future reincarnations?

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What! There're already 4 volumes of SukaMoka? What are the translators even doing!


I might be mistaken since I haven't begun to read SukaMoka, but I think thats Nygglatho
 
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@Germs_N_Spices Yup, that's Naigrat with-.... nevermind.
 
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In the final, I only partially succeeded in following Willem's considerations, so I still obscure why he asks Chtholly to marry him. As you can see in the final promo, it seems that someone's destiny is already marked, who knows! I hope the series does not end with this season, but there is some sort of next season.
 
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terrablu2003 said:
why he asks Chtholly to marry him.

Because that will make her happy.
 
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I still obscure why he asks Chtholly to marry him.


I'll give you the monologue when he said that in the LN

 
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I wanna open these spoiler tags so much but not sure if they'll get explained soon so I dunno...

I don't want anyone to die, but if there is a connection between Lillia and Ctholly it would make sense, Lillia is the one with the great housewife skills BECAUSE she and Willem were together before, and now they'll just be together again, even if Ctholly disappears, cuz I don't feel confident anyone can beat Elq at this point.

 
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Am i the only one still in denial despite all the death flags?

I dunno if I should prepare some tissue box for the upcoming episodes either....
 
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