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Jun 18, 10:17 AM

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God I got the chills when it was revealed that it's humans who are beasts. Like the creeps were close to Shinsekai Yori in terms of atmosphere.

Dat... flag. Something is gonna go very wrong, you can tell just by that.
 
Jun 18, 6:52 PM
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enjoying how the series is going now in the last 2 episodes, exicted for how it gonna end
 
Jun 19, 4:37 AM

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Finally, it's a milestone for those two. I would be very happy for them right now if it wasn't for the fact that I feel that I am not ready for what terrible thing I think might happen next episode. Please don't take this tender romance, and smash it to bits... it's a little terrifying how it's been so ominous lately, first episode aside. Next episode's title どうか、忘れないで literally translated means "somehow, don't forget". Non-literally, "evidence of existence". That only drives the point home even more... maybe I should just wait til ep. 12 and watch both back-to-back in one finale sitting...
 
Jun 19, 4:42 AM

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How to be a terrible writer, part 1: Be a modern light novel author. At least this trash hasn't exploded in Japan in terms of popularity, because it really doesn't deserve it. Literally nothing is happening in this, why should I care about any of the characters, especially these filler ones, not to mention the main characters are as bland and as boring as they come. This show is just boring. The visual presentation isn't that bad at least.
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Jun 19, 5:07 AM

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alpha_shadow said:
How to be a terrible writer, part 1: Be a modern light novel author. At least this trash hasn't exploded in Japan in terms of popularity, because it really doesn't deserve it. Literally nothing is happening in this, why should I care about any of the characters, especially these filler ones, not to mention the main characters are as bland and as boring as they come. This show is just boring. The visual presentation isn't that bad at least.

At least is more interesting than reading your comments trash talking light novels in every episode thread of this series. I just don't get why don't you guys just drop it sooner and watch something you like instead? Too easy maybe
 
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Anathor said:
alpha_shadow said:
How to be a terrible writer, part 1: Be a modern light novel author. At least this trash hasn't exploded in Japan in terms of popularity, because it really doesn't deserve it. Literally nothing is happening in this, why should I care about any of the characters, especially these filler ones, not to mention the main characters are as bland and as boring as they come. This show is just boring. The visual presentation isn't that bad at least.

At least is more interesting than reading your comments trash talking light novels in every episode thread of this series. I just don't get why don't you guys just drop it sooner and watch something you like instead? Too easy maybe


Don't feed him any attention. He probably thinks a shounen anime like BnHA has some of the best dialogue and complex characters unlike this trashy LN (cause all LNs are trashy am I right?) lol more like how to be a typical mal user: > go on episode discussion threads and throw buzzwords right and left.
 
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alpha_shadow said:
How to be a terrible writer, part 1: Be a modern light novel author. At least this trash hasn't exploded in Japan in terms of popularity, because it really doesn't deserve it. Literally nothing is happening in this, why should I care about any of the characters, especially these filler ones, not to mention the main characters are as bland and as boring as they come. This show is just boring. The visual presentation isn't that bad at least.

>fan of one piece and the like
>explain to other what is good writing.
>their main argument "nothing happens".

Some peoples really should think twice before giving to other their uninformed opinion. There's plenty of SOL novels that are considered masterpiece internationally. The novel critics would be very interested to hear you trying to convince them about how shounen battle are better than SOL novels.

Because just saying, sukasuka was praised by critics (obviously not internationally), and you're complaining about the SOL parts of it right now.

I love how you complain about filler characters with stuff like one piece or HxH among your favourites. Either you don't even know what filler means, or that's some high level hypocrisy here.
 
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alpha_shadow said:
How to be a terrible writer, part 1: Be a modern light novel author. At least this trash hasn't exploded in Japan in terms of popularity, because it really doesn't deserve it. Literally nothing is happening in this, why should I care about any of the characters, especially these filler ones, not to mention the main characters are as bland and as boring as they come. This show is just boring. The visual presentation isn't that bad at least.

At least is more interesting than reading your comments trash talking light novels in every episode thread of this series. I just don't get why don't you guys just drop it sooner and watch something you like instead? Too easy maybe[/quote]

Don't feed him any attention. He probably thinks a shounen anime like BnHA has some of the best dialogue and complex characters unlike this trashy LN (cause all LNs are trashy am I right?) lol more like how to be a typical mal user: > go on episode discussion threads and throw buzzwords right and left.[/quote]

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alpha_shadow said:
How to be a terrible writer, part 1: Be a modern light novel author. At least this trash hasn't exploded in Japan in terms of popularity, because it really doesn't deserve it. Literally nothing is happening in this, why should I care about any of the characters, especially these filler ones, not to mention the main characters are as bland and as boring as they come. This show is just boring. The visual presentation isn't that bad at least.

>fan of one piece and the like
>explain to other what is good writing.
>their main argument "nothing happens".

Some peoples really should think twice before giving to other their uninformed opinion. There's plenty of SOL novels that are considered masterpiece internationally. The novel critics would be very interested to hear you trying to convince them about how shounen battle are better than SOL novels.

Because just saying, sukasuka was praised by critics (obviously not internationally), and you're complaining about the SOL parts of it right now.

I love how you complain about filler characters with stuff like one piece or HxH among your favourites. Either you don't even know what filler means, or that's some high level hypocrisy here.


Ah, how typical of MAL peeps, immediately bashing on other people's tastes and favorites while going completely off topic because someone doesn't like something you do, what will I ever do.
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@Zefyris: It is the same like complaining about a choice an author made - make the plot based on the characters and less about the world setting itself. That did happen a lot and there are choice based reasons why the characters sometimes are more important then the world they live in.

It can also be based on a chosen view - Sometimes a view is based on a character directly - you will only see his/her view of the events and even though you as watcher did figure out something that the person did not, it will still not part of the plot until the person will find out for himself/herself.

MAL user are great in one thing and that is complaining. If an author/producer/staff team did not make the choices to focus the plot on some points the MAL watcher desperately want it to be the case, they will start complaining each next episode.

There are trolls, too. But that is a different story :P

@alpha_shadow: No, what the user wants to say is that everyone has different tastes. It can be possible that you truly hate a show, the majority would love. Instead of watching something you truly despise, you could make the choice to spend your time with something you like to do. That would be a better way of spending time, don`t you think ?
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@Zefyris: It is the same like complaining about a choice an author made - make the plot based on the characters and less about the world setting itself. That did happen a lot and there are choice based reasons why the characters sometimes are more important then the world they live in.

It can also be based on a chosen view - Sometimes a view is based on a character directly - you will only see his/her view of the events and even though you as watcher did figure out something that the person did not, it will still not part of the plot until the person will find out for himself/herself.

MAL user are great in one thing and that is complaining. If an author/producer/staff team did not make the choices to focus the plot on some points the MAL watcher desperately want it to be the case, they will start complaining each next episode.

There are trolls, too. But that is a different story :P

@alpha_shadow: No, what the user wants to say is that everyone has different tastes. It can be possible that you truly hate a show, the majority would love. Instead of watching something you truly despise, you could make the choice to spend your time with something you like to do. That would be a better way of spending time, don`t you think ?


I do kind of regret not dropping this show, but there isn't that much going on this season and I ended up catching up to date with this one, since I don't completely hate it, the interesting setting and world kept me watching. I like to watch multiple shows seasonally and unfortunately things didn't work out with this one.
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alpha_shadow said:

I do kind of regret not dropping this show, but there isn't that much going on this season and I ended up catching up to date with this one, since I don't completely hate it, the interesting setting and world kept me watching. I like to watch multiple shows seasonally and unfortunately things didn't work out with this one.


It is impossible to create something that would fit with everyone tastes, but you know which genre, elements. plot parts, character types, atmosphere is fitting your personal taste the best.

You are free to make the choice to love something or to drop something. Instead of complaining you could take the opportunity to share your thoughts what of this series you do like and dislike and why especially these points.
That would open up free space for a real discussion.
 
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Did i bash your favorite ? Did i say some shounen like bnha is bad ? No. All i pointed out is your unjustified generalization (modern LNs) in comparison to other genres and demographic and media coupled by your typical baseless criticism and buzzwords that really won't get you far. Maybe i should have worded it better.
I'm honeslty not bothered at all, hearing buzzwords saves me from taking you seriously and having to go into a sensible debate where people use reasoning, example, elaborate and concrete arguments and constructive criticism not "oh bland, boring, bad this, bad that, modern LNs and whatnot"...
 
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alpha_shadow said:

Ah, how typical of MAL peeps, immediately bashing on other people's tastes and favorites while going completely off topic because someone doesn't like something you do, what will I ever do.

Is that all you can answer? If you simply said you didn't like this show, or even that it was boring, it would have been fine.
You went ahead and said it was bad writing, and talked about fillers characters.
And apparently it was still not enough because you went ahead and spat on all modern LN titles on the way, full of yourself on that one.
All of this on a public thread that anyone can read, literally asking for someone to point out your lack of knowledge and that you're simply bandwagonning on the LN hate rather than having a constructed PERSONAL opinion.

That's no longer simply saying you don't like something, so you can't just go and expect peoples to understand your position, complaining about peoples unable to accept different tastes.
you didn't state your taste, you thrashed thousand of authors and works in a single sentence. Including this present title, that certainly doesn't have the problem you're pointing out.
While having a taste for shounen battle, to boot.
As far as tolerance for different taste, I don't easily call things trash and inventing inexistant problems to bash something when I don't like it, so I'd say I'm better on this point than you, btw.

Me gently informing you that you don't have the required knowledge to make such drastic conclusions and that you're misusing some words is only out of sheer kindness, so no need to pose as a victim here.

Also, you did it on like 4 thread in a row, calling this show shit, trash, light novel trash, and the like. You were clearly asking for it.

Most peoples would logically conclude that my answer was simply you reaping what you sow.
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Jun 19, 9:51 AM
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wow.. this series is much more depressing for me than what i thought. I don't know why i started watching this tho. Well, the death flag sure is raising real quick. I can only hope nothing bad will happen at the next episode.

Btw, the relation between Willem and Chtholly somehow reminds the relationship between Tatsumi and Mine from Akame ga Kill, the manga version of course.

[Possibly Spoiler for Akame ga Kill Manga]
 
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alpha_shadow said:

I do kind of regret not dropping this show, but there isn't that much going on this season and I ended up catching up to date with this one, since I don't completely hate it, the interesting setting and world kept me watching. I like to watch multiple shows seasonally and unfortunately things didn't work out with this one.



The author,for me, did a middling job of adapting his work into an anime.

He wanted to re-focus the story from Willem and put the spotlight on Chtholly.
So the anime cut out most of Willem's backstory,yet was simply an abridged version of the novel. Only a few original scenes have been added for Chtholly,so we get a story which is focused on Willem yet trying not to be,hence the deadends,half explanations and why only now are two major characters making their appearance,Lilya and Almaria.

Will say the novel is a good read,the 4th and 5th volumes really made the story for me. Also SukaMoka is so far a better read,deals more with the over all plot.


 
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I can imagine that Chtholly will somehow survive, (based on episode 1) went on coma or something, but eventually will be reunited with Willem in the future


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Lillia is the one with the great housewife skills BECAUSE she and Willem were together before, and now they'll just be together again, even if Ctholly disappears, cuz I don't feel confident anyone can beat Elq at this point.



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DarcyD said:
Lillia is the one with the great housewife skills BECAUSE she and Willem were together before, and now they'll just be together again, even if Ctholly disappears, cuz I don't feel confident anyone can beat Elq at this point.





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Give the anime a chance to fully show the scene from the final novel,still two episodes left,well one,11 will be out shortly.

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Jun 21, 1:58 PM

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I still don't understand what william figured out does that mean that the beasts are actually human or somethnig
 
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I still don't understand what william figured out does that mean that the beasts are actually human or somethnig

Yes, the monsters were once humans.

That particular weapon was created to be used against humans. If it was used against anything else, it would require some maintenance. It was used against many monsters, yet it was in perfect shape. The only conclusion is that the monsters were created from humans.
 
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Well I have to say did a great job since they really didn't give away too many details... it really makes me want to read the novel now... i must check it out when I have time now. So many books to read... so busy.

 
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Urgh! its all over! I mean my own entertainment factor about this show :(


3.5/6 for this episode.
 
Jun 26, 8:14 AM

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Shut up!
im not crying, you're crying!
 
Jun 28, 12:27 PM

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Decent progression, let's see what the last two episodes have to offer though!
 
Jun 28, 3:54 PM

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Chtolly showing everyone why she is the best girl xD
Thanks to some comments that i've read here i think i finally got what Willem found about that sword and why he was shocked so much.
That proposal :3
That ending damn, i really hope they explain everything because there is so much going on.

 
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So the beasts are created from humans to be biological weapons and so are the fairies I think it was their souls, not too sure about that since Desperatio can only be used by humans to kill humans. Interesting.

That's how it looks to me right now.
The beasts/monsters (choose your own name) were created from humans by humans to fight against... humans?

And yes, it looks like fairies were created from souls of children turned into monsters.


Damn this is sad...
Btw thanks for explaining xD
 
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So Lilya, Ctholly & Elq in one... monster becomes hero or vice versa?
And where did the 500 yr old girl go? Willem's wife or sis?
And they're all from humans except the furries.
Lapid sword found, but besides helping the ship happen, didn't seem so important.


 
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The ending made the episode worth it since it was so sweet. Not the after credits scene though
 
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Man this anime has better romance than 99% of romance anime.
 
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Everyone loves Chtholly! I was so happy to see Willem's proposal.
 
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That marriage proposal is so sweet. I don't mind the Willem and Chtolly romance, I used to be kinda cautious about it because I didn't know what the age difference was but psyhically it's only 3 years apart. (544ish years apart if you count when Willem was uh frozen)
I can't help but be wary of the death flags though. I want this to end happily but I have a feeling that it won't..
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Everyone threatening to beat up Willem if he treats Chtholly wrong is pretty funny XD

And damn, that marriage proposal tho? And I'm guessing Willem discovered what, that the beasts were made from humans?
“I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy
 
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So, even though Lapidemsibilus is already in Ctholly's reach & all she need to be cured is holding it, she don't?
 
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So, even though Lapidemsibilus is already in Ctholly's reach & all she need to be cured is holding it, she don't?


This isn't "curing", this is to keep her in her current state without worsening. Sword need tuning too.
 
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So, even though Lapidemsibilus is already in Ctholly's reach & all she need to be cured is holding it, she don't?


This isn't "curing", this is to keep her in her current state without worsening. Sword need tuning too.


Still, basically it's a plot device to save Ctholly (that drives our MC to go with the expedition) and if it needs tuning, how come Willem didn't make it his first priority, given his feelings and his knowledge of Ctholly's condition urgency
 
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Protoz said:
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This isn't "curing", this is to keep her in her current state without worsening. Sword need tuning too.


Still, basically it's a plot device to save Ctholly (that drives our MC to go with the expedition) and if it needs tuning, how come Willem didn't make it his first priority, given his feelings and his knowledge of Ctholly's condition urgency

Like I said, it needs tuning because normally, a Carillon chooses its holder rather than the contrary. That's the "special dream" the faeries see that you saw during the anime. TBH willem's plan to use that sword is nothing more than a desperate plan to begin with. I'm not even sure he could have tuned it. If someone could have done it, that was him, but that's a very unconventional thing to try.
FYI, it was skipped in the anime, but Willem himself was never chosen by any of the Carillons, that was why he was using two mass manufactured lesser variants instead back in the day.

Furthermore, they were supposed to go back quickly after arriving. Who would believe that such a catastrophe happens right away and involve them? That catastrophe is not a coincidence at all, but there was no way to understand that for Willem, as he's still missing important infos about what happened 500 years ago, and about what are really the leprechauns.
He did make his first priority to secure it, but he cannot really walk around with it, as they are super weapons that even he cannot bring out of the place it's stocked in without the proper authorisation. So waiting to come back so that the sword is stored in the storehouse was the logical decision.
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Would have to say I didn't really get what they were going on about before reading explanations.
A bit frustrating since I roughly know the ending
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