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Jun 12, 2017 4:49 PM

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Now that was a great episode.

Will be even better next time when Zero kicks Thirteen's ass.

Very heartwarming reunion for Zero & Mercenary.

I had a feeling what was going to happen next, I remember the trap from the Church.

Thirteen & Him being the same person, I reckon most people already knew that.

How great has the OST been for this series? I love it.
 
Jun 12, 2017 5:09 PM

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Well almost all anime this season have plot twist at episode 9-10 like Kado, Saekano, etc.. I said Zero has a plot twist too.

Can't wait to see the battle between Thirteen and Zero
 
 
Jun 12, 2017 7:29 PM

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Great episode, the reunion was heartwarming :D
Felt a little slow paced, but that's just my short attention span xD
 
Jun 12, 2017 7:50 PM

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thirteen you bastard...that guy is really nuts...he is truly a Akuma
 
Jun 12, 2017 9:30 PM

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Great reunion omg 😲 ahh
 
Jun 12, 2017 10:59 PM

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A really nice reunion:)

Fuck thirteen lol
 
Jun 13, 2017 1:06 AM

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Another solid episode, even though their reunion was long overdue. Still, let's hope they can defeat Thirteen so we can at least somewhat see some of Zero and Mercenary's chemistry from earlier in the season again.
 
Jun 13, 2017 3:08 AM

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I didn't really like the reunion to be honest.

Mercenary voices his reasons for leaving and doubting her:
-The whole witches playing a part in creating Beastfallen.
-To survive he had to doubt and not trust others.

Instead of hearing him out and understanding his reasons, Zero just went "What about ME! ME! ME!." She ain't the only one that lived a lonely life.

Also, those idiot guards reading battle plans in front of the fucking HOSTAGES!


 
Jun 13, 2017 4:00 AM
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Wait, if 13's goal is to erase the fear of witches...then go with the plan to erase magic. That simple.
 
 
Jun 13, 2017 6:31 AM

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The most compelling thing about this episode, having seen the scene so striking between Zero and the Mercenary, is when it comes to discovering who is the true builder of all that is happening in history. The mercenary is really an interesting type, not even this time, let go of silly speeches, that man! I hope Zero beat up strong, that bastard of Thirteen.
 
Jun 13, 2017 6:55 AM

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Wow, I thought they were with "Him" because they had seen him,talked to him and stuff, but they trusted a totally unknown person with their lives. These witches are more dumb than I thought xD
"At some point, I stopped hoping."
 
 
Jun 13, 2017 8:08 AM

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Comander-07 said:
I sort of like thirteen. Nobody cares what you want. Im pretty sure most kids in school would rather play outside. 20 years later they might regret it.

And if they listen to their parents, 20 years later, the parents would regret it and complain about not having grandchildren. You can't win at life.

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I didn't really like the reunion to be honest.

Mercenary voices his reasons for leaving and doubting her:
-The whole witches playing a part in creating Beastfallen.
-To survive he had to doubt and not trust others.

Instead of hearing him out and understanding his reasons, Zero just went "What about ME! ME! ME!." She ain't the only one that lived a lonely life.

Which part of Zero seemed mature to you? Creating a book of convenient spells that turn out to be good for destruction? Trusting a random fluffy stranger? Having a lover's quarrel with that stranger when she found out he had doubts about her? Maybe her loli body? :)
 
Jun 13, 2017 2:10 PM

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flannan said:
Comander-07 said:
I sort of like thirteen. Nobody cares what you want. Im pretty sure most kids in school would rather play outside. 20 years later they might regret it.

And if they listen to their parents, 20 years later, the parents would regret it and complain about not having grandchildren. You can't win at life.


Im pretty sure no parents complaim about kids going to school. You can win at life, just dont suck and its an auto win ^^
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It is for Madoka alone." - Homura
or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica.
 
Jun 13, 2017 3:10 PM

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Thirteen revealed himself this episode and the stage is set for an epic showdown between him and Zero! I can't wait for the big fight and the battle of ideas for what is the right way to apply magic to the world. Mercenary will have a front row seat to the big show but will he have a pivotal role in the end?
I shall rule over the realms of anime and manga! Mwahhahahahaha!!!
 
Jun 13, 2017 8:24 PM

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Things worked out well in the end. Nothing too surprising.
 
 
Jun 14, 2017 1:01 AM

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flannan said:
CtrlZED said:
I didn't really like the reunion to be honest.

Mercenary voices his reasons for leaving and doubting her:
-The whole witches playing a part in creating Beastfallen.
-To survive he had to doubt and not trust others.

Instead of hearing him out and understanding his reasons, Zero just went "What about ME! ME! ME!." She ain't the only one that lived a lonely life.

Which part of Zero seemed mature to you? Creating a book of convenient spells that turn out to be good for destruction? Trusting a random fluffy stranger? Having a lover's quarrel with that stranger when she found out he had doubts about her? Maybe her loli body? :)


Well, pardon me for expecting some character development. She was imprisoned and could have used that time to reflect on why the Mercenary left. I guess it's better for her to remain a perpetually naive loli that doesn't mature right? Because that makes for such a compelling well written story!
 
Jun 14, 2017 3:18 PM

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that hands !!!
is thirteen an early version of i, Petelgeuse Romanée-Cont???
 
Jun 15, 2017 4:40 AM

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joe_g7 said:
Wow, I thought they were with "Him" because they had seen him,talked to him and stuff, but they trusted a totally unknown person with their lives. These witches are more dumb than I thought xD
You mean you did not realize 13 was Him from the moment he was first mentioned? I mean come on: everyone dies , only two survivors remain , and the only the one that appears to know what happened leaves almost immediately would seem a bit suspicious no? No one ever wonders why Him let Zero alive? If Him would be anyone else would have killed everyone.
 
Jun 15, 2017 4:47 AM

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nightcrawlercyp said:
joe_g7 said:
Wow, I thought they were with "Him" because they had seen him,talked to him and stuff, but they trusted a totally unknown person with their lives. These witches are more dumb than I thought xD
You mean you did not realize 13 was Him from the moment he was first mentioned? I mean come on: everyone dies , only two survivors remain , and the only the one that appears to know what happened leaves almost immediately would seem a bit suspicious no?
I mean that I'm amazed that NONE of these witches seems to doubt His identity even a bit, everyone is just following him blindly.
"At some point, I stopped hoping."
 
Jun 15, 2017 5:12 AM

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So 13 was the one that did everything! He is "Him", I was not expecting that! Zero is mad now.
 
Jun 15, 2017 5:20 AM

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joe_g7 said:
nightcrawlercyp said:
You mean you did not realize 13 was Him from the moment he was first mentioned? I mean come on: everyone dies , only two survivors remain , and the only the one that appears to know what happened leaves almost immediately would seem a bit suspicious no?
I mean that I'm amazed that NONE of these witches seems to doubt His identity even a bit, everyone is just following him blindly.
well, most people are like that. If the con artist has enough charisma most people will fall for it. Most people that do not study very strict sciences like mathematics cannot follow long logical inferences with ease so it is easy to lose someone this way and trick them. There are a lot of books about how to trick someone this way basically based on that to most people a inference seems correct when is not (an inference is A=>B). For instance if you say "that all cretans are liars" the negation is not "all cretans are truth tellers" but "not all cretans are liars" or "some cretans do not lie" . This type of logical little traps may seem silly but most people fall for them. And you should remember that the witches had no studies.

PS: here is a more detailed explanation: http://archive.cudahynow.com/blogs/communityblogs/122552808.html
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Jun 15, 2017 5:25 AM

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bittersweetlove said:
So 13 was the one that did everything! He is "Him", I was not expecting that! Zero is mad now.
I am surprised it took so long. the first hint (at least to me) that 13 was Him (not that I did not have this suspicion before) is that both 13 and Him use rats for sending messages and spying. No other witch we see in the whole Wenia uses rats for communicating. He could have used different animals but it seems he likes rats more since he is like a rat.
 
Jun 15, 2017 7:37 AM

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I don't know what spell they were casting at the end, but Zero obviously will finish chanting first: her name is faster to say. :p
 
Jun 16, 2017 5:48 AM

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I hope their clash won't get interrupted just like last time...lolz
Zero & Youhei reunion was great!
4/5.


 
 
Jun 16, 2017 8:17 AM

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Was a great surprise!!!


Hello, my litte boy!


 
Jun 16, 2017 3:12 PM

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Thirteen is pretty boring. But at least Zero and Merc are together again.

Gotta love the convenient magic sealing. Zero can't use magic but Thirteen can, Thirteen wants to kill Youhei but that would kill Zero, when Zero get's out of a cage both of them can now use magic.
 
Jun 17, 2017 12:11 AM

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AnimeFanboy1234 said:
Wait, if 13's goal is to erase the fear of witches...then go with the plan to erase magic. That simple.
You know you are absolutely right. But I think he wants to kill all the witches is because he tried teaching and he fucked up so he wants to erase the people he created along with his death so that when Zeo can come out of the cave she would be inclined to look at what he had done in a positive way in light of his death and perhaps carry out whatever he had planned her to do afterwards.
 
Jun 17, 2017 4:26 AM
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ThRippJck said:
AnimeFanboy1234 said:
Wait, if 13's goal is to erase the fear of witches...then go with the plan to erase magic. That simple.
You know you are absolutely right. But I think he wants to kill all the witches is because he tried teaching and he fucked up so he wants to erase the people he created along with his death so that when Zeo can come out of the cave she would be inclined to look at what he had done in a positive way in light of his death and perhaps carry out whatever he had planned her to do afterwards.


When looking from that perspective, that actually does make sense. 13 does have the face of a psychopath, so deaths don't probably mean anything to him emotionally.
 
 
Jun 17, 2017 1:12 PM

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The reunion was so goooood <3333
 
Jun 18, 2017 6:41 PM

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Cmon another fcking cliffhanger ;-;
 
Jun 18, 2017 6:50 PM

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Finally! They are together.
Well played Youhei, well played.
I do hope Zero will show him why she is Zero and he is 13 xD
That's why older people are called wise ;)

Let's not forget this moment, one of the best Zero moments :3
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Jun 21, 2017 12:13 PM

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Youhei knew that the vial contained poison and he calls himself a moron?
 
Jul 4, 2017 11:04 PM

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Thirteen is one crazy, stupid, sack of shit who is def just trying to get in Zero's pants
“I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy
 
Aug 12, 2017 9:45 AM

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Damn that ending! Pretty nice episode, but every episode with 13 the pacing sure is pretty slow...
 
Dec 6, 2017 9:57 AM

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Good episode.

Zero and Mercenary's reunion was really nice. Zero was so cute. <3

So Thirteen was the one behind it at all from the start, he was the founder of the Sorcerers of Zero and made up this entire plan just to show Zero the world, presumably a happy one where magic is used for good but we all know how that turned out. Quite the instigator he is. I suppose this means that Zero knew about Thirteen's plot from the very beginning as well. It does make sense considering how she was the one telling Albus about the founder having stolen the Grimoire of Zero.

I'm glad Hordem survived. :)

Mercenary manages to successfully free Zero from her cage using the potion. Thirteen vs Zero next.


no she didn't know hes plans she put the picture together from the puzzle pieces on their travels the learned new things & finally she had the picture together
 
Mar 29, 2018 12:51 PM
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I'm happy to see them reunite.

Not to sure what Holdem is going to do to try and save Albus but with two episodes to go who knows what is going to happen.
 
Apr 4, 2018 6:09 AM

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The climax is finally starting... saw it coming that Thirteen was Him and the primary antagonist all along... now for the finale...
Glad to see that the Wolf guy has escaped.
 
 
May 31, 2019 7:03 AM

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Good pitch Youhei xD.
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それはまるで詩のような綺麗言だから
天まで届けと呟き祈る
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Jun 4, 7:29 PM
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I totally called it! Also, I think Thirteen is just dumb. His arguments for his actions are all based on circular reasoning. I hate circular reasoning.
 
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Pretty interesting explanations, and now thanks to Youhei, Zero is free and is going to fight 13 for real this time, it's sure going to be interesting
 
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