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Jun 9, 2017 8:54 AM

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So, zaShunina is basically Kyuubey, amirite ?
 
Jun 9, 2017 8:55 AM

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This show is a 9/10 for me at the moment. It can be a 10/10 if they don't screw the ending.

I was not expecting the plot twist at all.

 
Jun 9, 2017 9:08 AM

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So much information was fed into this episode. That ending was unexpected. Tsukai is actually the administrator of the world. zaShunina made a clone of Shindo and was about to kill him, but Tsukai saved him in time. That was epic.
 
Jun 9, 2017 9:12 AM

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Fuck Tsukai, her whole being is a mistake. I actually started liking her last ep when she opened up about her opinion, because she just seemed like a normal level-headed human who doesn't want to hurry with progress uncontrollably. Now she's a fucking goddess of humankind or something. And what triggered her ring to break? It better not be because of Shindo, but because of something zaShunina did. Shindo has enough harem already, it doesn't need some extra promise ring bullshit to it.

Some of the scenes where zaShunina explained things were cool though. I'm just too pissed to be happy about them >:T This was my AOTS, now I don't know anymore.
 
Jun 9, 2017 9:18 AM
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Bruh way to fuck everything we knew up. I thought this was going to be a show where humanity expands its horizon and all of that, and now we have shounen superpower fights... Why did they have to make zaShunina the bad guy?! Now i know how the Tokyo Ghoul fans felt when they went for the HET ship. What the fuck is going to happen now? Tsukai is going to do some administrator bullshit and send zaShunina back or kill him. And then confess her feelings for Shindou? Is this what is going to happen now? Until this point in time, i had no idea of how the next episode would plan out, but now..... i am talking too much, guess i will have to wait and see... i cri. Just hope it doesnt go from a 9/10 to a 4-5
 
Jun 9, 2017 9:21 AM

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OH MAN!!! WHATTTT! That plot twist! O_O What HAPPENED! That last 30 second was so unexpected.

So Tsukai is an anisotropic beings and the administrator of the world. And It was the anisotropic beings that created the universe. We still don't know Yaha-kui zaShunina's true intentions though. Nanomis-hein is the fourth device.

 
Jun 9, 2017 9:24 AM
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Majestic. This might actually end in good versus evil since, as for now, zaShunina seems to be something like a collector, an "assimilator" and humanity is simply another source of "food" or "entertainment" to him, just like animals are to humanity(?). Even though he claims the humanity is the supreme product of anisotropic beingss efforts. So enticing, what they want to tell us...
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Jun 9, 2017 9:26 AM
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So does her opinion that Humanity should not have the anisotropic's help come from her personal experience? I mean, if she already knows more than Shindo, her ideas are more warranted.
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Jun 9, 2017 9:27 AM

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Bruh way to fuck everything we knew up. I thought this was going to be a show where humanity expands its horizon and all of that, and now we have shounen superpower fights... Why did they have to make zaShunina the bad guy?! Now i know how the Tokyo Ghoul fans felt when they went for the HET ship. What the fuck is going to happen now? Tsukai is going to do some administrator bullshit and send zaShunina back or kill him. And then confess her feelings for Shindou? Is this what is going to happen now? Until this point in time, i had no idea of how the next episode would plan out, but now..... i am talking too much, guess i will have to wait and see... i cri. Just hope it doesnt go from a 9/10 to a 4-5


There's still three episodes left, and this is supposedly a story that has been carefully written for years (it was meant to be a 2-hour movie). I highly doubt they'd spend 8 episodes of build up, science exposition, dialogue and negotiations, just to resolve the whole thing with a super power battle. I have faith in it.
 
Jun 9, 2017 9:27 AM

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This development is too strange for its own good. Ït feels like it's been axed somehow.
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Jun 9, 2017 9:36 AM

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It went from 0 to 100 real quick.
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Jun 9, 2017 10:08 AM

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provocative to supa powa clash
worse than melodrama...
 
Jun 9, 2017 10:16 AM

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Wait, WHAT??????
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Jun 9, 2017 10:40 AM

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That was so unexpected!

So basically according to the series these ihou guys have created the universe and Tsukai is the one who made earth? Tsukai being an ihou being doesn't make much sense to me right now, I'm confused. They show her family background and then this twist in the next episode!? I hope they give a good explanation to everything.

All this while I was thinking about Soldier Blue looking at zaShunina, this episode totally destroyed that image for me.
 
Jun 9, 2017 11:05 AM

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That was so unexpected!

So basically according to the series these ihou guys have created the universe and Tsukai is the one who made earth? Tsukai being an ihou being doesn't make much sense to me right now, I'm confused. They show her family background and then this twist in the next episode!? I hope they give a good explanation to everything.

All this while I was thinking about Soldier Blue looking at zaShunina, this episode totally destroyed that image for me.


I guess that everything goes around the ring she had, it should have more meaning than "Fate" , im not really sure but maybe she was "Sent" into a human with the power of that Ring she had
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Jun 9, 2017 11:12 AM

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I skimmed through the episode and it looks like it turned into shounen themed one.

I have this feeling that Tsukai is being reborn again and again together with Shindou..
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Jun 9, 2017 11:19 AM

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Wow..shit certainly hit the fan.
 
Jun 9, 2017 11:27 AM

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And that was an unexpected turn of events. I wonder if she lived her whole life normally. Growing up, meeting people, studying, working, all that while knowing she was the administrator. I still shipping her with Shindo though.
 
Jun 9, 2017 11:27 AM
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the antirtropic being isn't evil, he has a different perspective on the situation, his actions are evil, but I think it's wrong to call him evil, he's doing what he thinks is right, just how he's doing it is wrong...if that makes any sense.
 
Jun 9, 2017 11:43 AM
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Maybe I'm the only one disappointed by this, I liked the show until Tsukai transformed and went for the rescue. I hope this doesn't fully turn into a battle shounen.
 
Jun 9, 2017 11:54 AM

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Well then I certainly wasn't expecting that.
I'm not sure how I feel about the reveal yet, it certainly had a great shock factor for me, I'll determine my thoughts on the twist after next ep comes by.

I certainly saw the copy of Shindo coming though, something about zaShunina's method of transportation seemed off from the get go.

Pretty excited to see what happens next ep nonetheless
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Jun 9, 2017 12:05 PM

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I really don't see this becoming a battle show. This show has been based on conversation for far too long, it would be terribly stupid to become shounen at this point. Saraka just protected Shindo because she prizes him as an equal being, while Zashunina sees him as a replaceable computer. I think that's the better way to interpret what she did. There are no real hints that suggest a purely physical fight will be breaking out, so I'd rather not jump the gun and be overly pessimistic.

Nevertheless, that was a pretty fantastic episode. The explanations were pretty good. Hanamori was also gay, the way that was handled was pretty good.
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Jun 9, 2017 12:22 PM

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Maybe I'm the only one disappointed by this, I liked the show until Tsukai transformed and went for the rescue. I hope this doesn't fully turn into a battle shounen.

Nope, you're not alone in this one. I was here, enjoying my weekly sci-fi show, when suddenly they throw in a magical girl segment. Seriously, it feels like they finally ran out of ideas and decided to appeal to some sort of "fight between superior beings" to create the climax necessary to end the story on a high note.
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I was dissapointed for this show turning into a Shounen, it shouldn't be tsukai who would going to stop Zashunina, but rather someone else who's more of anistophic being who has been on this earth monitoring it's progress. For Tsukai? Mehhh... She introduced her family in previous episode and then suddenly she became a magical girl? I don't know how to take this shocking plot twist, I kinda understand the situation, but it shouldn't be tsukai, it's getting more senseless. I'm only watching this fantasy anime because it has a realistic approach, but after Tsukai? I'm sorry but, I can't....
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Jun 9, 2017 1:31 PM

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This is becoming more and more Man of Steel..esk by the episode.

This episode was amazing, until the Mahou Shoujo appeared(the OP kind of spoiled it for me).

I thought the retarded scientist girl was going to be the one to send zaShunina away, since she's been learning so much about the anisotropic.




Jack_Corvus96 said:
Maou_heika said:
That was so unexpected!

So basically according to the series these ihou guys have created the universe and Tsukai is the one who made earth? Tsukai being an ihou being doesn't make much sense to me right now, I'm confused. They show her family background and then this twist in the next episode!? I hope they give a good explanation to everything.

All this while I was thinking about Soldier Blue looking at zaShunina, this episode totally destroyed that image for me.


I guess that everything goes around the ring she had, it should have more meaning than "Fate" , im not really sure but maybe she was "Sent" into a human with the power of that Ring she had


He looks more like General Zod now.







dzn018 said:
I skimmed through the episode and it looks like it turned into shounen themed one.

I have this feeling that Tsukai is being reborn again and again together with Shindou..

That's likely
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Jun 9, 2017 1:41 PM

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I am guessing the end will result in the death of both anisotropic beings and a reset on the world to before kado appeared.
 
Jun 9, 2017 1:45 PM

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I'm not disappointed so far. It hasn't become a Shounen battle anime, even if there's a bit of a fight next episode (which I wouldn't be against). My main hope is that there is a real negotiation between Shindo and zaShunina so that zaShunina changes his mind instead of him having to be physically stopped.
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The goal of negotiations is to acquire what's in your best interest, but defeating your rival for a temporary gain? That'll always come back to bite you in the ass in the long term. The best thing you can do is to settle on something that meets the interests of both parties involved.
Shindo hasn't yet had to negotiate with zaShunina in a major way (as he sort of just went along with the Wam and Sansa), so I think it should happen. Ending the conflict with zaShunina in violence would be uncharacteristic of the series. Maybe they will be able to restrain him enough to resolve it with words? It's too early to say the series is ruined because a physical conflict has happened for the first time.
 
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I was dissapointed for this show turning into a Shounen, it shouldn't be tsukai who would going to stop Zashunina, but rather someone else who's more of anistophic being who has been on this earth monitoring it's progress. For Tsukai? Mehhh... She introduced her family in previous episode and then suddenly she became a magical girl? I don't know how to take this shocking plot twist, I kinda understand the situation, but it shouldn't be tsukai, it's getting more senseless. I'm only watching this fantasy anime because it has a realistic approach, but after Tsukai? I'm sorry but, I can't....


Yes she introduced her family, but you aren't thinking outside the box, what was that Ring? what if Tsukai was "sent" by the Anisotropic people to be monitoring?
at least wait for the next episode and you might have an answer for that

also this:

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I really don't see this becoming a battle show. This show has been based on conversation for far too long, it would be terribly stupid to become shounen at this point.


do you really think that it would become a "battle shounen" out of nowhere? In the very first place the anisotropic beings came in peace, if they wanted to transform this into a "battle shounen" they could have done this several episodes ago but they didn't and that's what makes it really great, don't lose your hopes because there was a plottwist cliffhanger

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Jun 9, 2017 2:30 PM

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Well that was interesting. lol The show's setting was always to the point where it could have gone in a multitude of directions but I didn't expect it to go the route it did in this episode. I can't wait to see what takes place in the upcoming episodes.
 
Jun 9, 2017 2:37 PM
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They better explain this well, because it really was disappointing for the events to turn out this way.
It's kind of weird for zashunina to act this way. I never suspected that he could kill a human and replace him with his clone, but since his understanding is very different from ours, i don't know...
Maybe that was a trigger for Saraka's transformation - when another anisotropic tries to kill a human being or something like that?
Since she is guardian of the "cocoon", what does that mean? I suppose the guardian anisotropic is assigned to any universe that was created by them and is dormant there until that universe provides the results that anisotropics hope for and then they come to assimilate that new "information". It is weird that she didn't do anything when Kado just landed then... They better explain how an anisotropic is a normal young japanese woman too. Maybe that ring is an anisotropic (or some residue of it)...

Either way i dislike the direction that show took. I prefer a slow analysis how humanity adopts new technologies, how that affects their daily lives, politics and etc. But i guess they planned only one season and needed to end this quickly. It's sad because the show had a very interesting concept that will probably remain very shallowly explored.
 
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What the hell?!
For a minute, I was hoping that zaShunina discovered love and confessed his feelings to Shindo. Instead, what I got was zaShunina trying to destroy Shindo. Damn!

This unexpected turn of events has left me with a ton of questions that I hope can be answered in the remaining 3 episodes.
 
Jun 9, 2017 3:08 PM

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What the hell?!
For a minute, I was hoping that zaShunina discovered love and confessed his feelings to Shindo. Instead, what I got was zaShunina trying to destroy Shindo. Damn!

This unexpected turn of events has left me with a ton of questions that I hope can be answered in the remaining 3 episodes.

Either way he tried to stick his thing into Shindo. :P
 
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I kinda saw this coming a couple of weeks ago, and I hate it when I'm right.

By the way, has the manga ended?
I used to have a thought that there won't be conclusive ending.

I'm now more concern about whether if this show will turn out to be a complete mess at the end.

 
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They better explain this well, because it really was disappointing for the events to turn out this way.
It's kind of weird for zashunina to act this way. I never suspected that he could kill a human and replace him with his clone, but since his understanding is very different from ours, i don't know...

Either way i dislike the direction that show took. I prefer a slow analysis how humanity adopts new technologies, how that affects their daily lives, politics and etc. But i guess they planned only one season and needed to end this quickly. It's sad because the show had a very interesting concept that will probably remain very shallowly explored.

It's like you read my mind! But it seems the two of us are almost alone in this opinion. *Looks at the results of the poll* Oh, well. I guess that means the writers made the correct choice. (Where correct=the route that's most popular with viewers)
 
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DNI_R said:
They better explain this well, because it really was disappointing for the events to turn out this way.
It's kind of weird for zashunina to act this way. I never suspected that he could kill a human and replace him with his clone, but since his understanding is very different from ours, i don't know...

Either way i dislike the direction that show took. I prefer a slow analysis how humanity adopts new technologies, how that affects their daily lives, politics and etc. But i guess they planned only one season and needed to end this quickly. It's sad because the show had a very interesting concept that will probably remain very shallowly explored.

It's like you read my mind! But it seems the two of us are almost alone in this opinion. *Looks at the results of the poll* Oh, well. I guess that means the writers made the correct choice. (Where correct=the route that's most popular with viewers)


Right now, I don't see why the episode as a whole would deserve anything lower than 3/5. The whole episode was just like the past ones except the last few seconds. But I think the conflict will be solved with talks and more discoveries, like it was always the case in the series. I hope it won't be a cheap shounen battle.

It is too early to say the series went south but I do dislike the ideia to have cocoons and zaShunina as an "information harvester". It almost sounded like the movie Matrix.

 
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the antirtropic being isn't evil, he has a different perspective on the situation, his actions are evil, but I think it's wrong to call him evil, he's doing what he thinks is right, just how he's doing it is wrong...if that makes any sense.


YAY someone who agrees. lol i'll admit that i feel like im a little protective/defensive when it comes to zaShunina but what he did was definitely bad. I can defend him by saying that he probably doesn't consider it hurting Shindo because he saved an old copy of him and doesn't understand human values but he needs to learn that's a mistaken belief.

I just hope they don't destroy his character by making him obstinate and pushy. He said from the beginning that he wanted humanity to choose the right answer, that ultimately he would leave it up to them. Him suddenly trying to "kill" Shindo because he thinks he overloaded him too fast is taking away his right to choose.
 
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How to ruin a perfectly good series in 2 seconds
 
Jun 9, 2017 4:30 PM

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So Za shunina is true evil then
And wtf that ending , didnt expect tsukai is an anistrophic as well but hmm... How about her family?
Looking foward to the next episode
 
Jun 9, 2017 4:36 PM
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holy shit. the ending music also adds to the goosebumps.; this show is getting somewhere, im glad i stuck around to watch this.
 
Jun 9, 2017 5:09 PM

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GAH of course that had to happen (not that I expected the very ending.)

Same old story, no such thing as a free meal!
 
Jun 9, 2017 5:28 PM

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I like the new Zashunina, question is was he always like this or did all that reading and interaction with humans change him?
 
Jun 9, 2017 5:39 PM
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Bruh way to fuck everything we knew up. I thought this was going to be a show where humanity expands its horizon and all of that, and now we have shounen superpower fights... Why did they have to make zaShunina the bad guy?! Now i know how the Tokyo Ghoul fans felt when they went for the HET ship. What the fuck is going to happen now? Tsukai is going to do some administrator bullshit and send zaShunina back or kill him. And then confess her feelings for Shindou? Is this what is going to happen now? Until this point in time, i had no idea of how the next episode would plan out, but now..... i am talking too much, guess i will have to wait and see... i cri. Just hope it doesnt go from a 9/10 to a 4-5


There's still three episodes left, and this is supposedly a story that has been carefully written for years (it was meant to be a 2-hour movie). I highly doubt they'd spend 8 episodes of build up, science exposition, dialogue and negotiations, just to resolve the whole thing with a super power battle. I have faith in it.
we still dont know the alien true intensions so we still cant say if he is evil or good
 
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So Za shunina is true evil then
And wtf that ending , didnt expect tsukai is an anistrophic as well but hmm... How about her family?
Looking foward to the next episode
he is not evil he just have different perspective on some things
 
Jun 9, 2017 6:11 PM

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What the f**king f**k? We literally just saw a deus ex machina. I was sort of enjoying the ride, but I'm not sure I can continue enjoying it after what I just saw.
 
Jun 9, 2017 7:14 PM

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Woooah, mind fucking blown. Damn I love this anime xD
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Jun 9, 2017 8:35 PM

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Samurai Flamenco feelings.

Saraka best girl of the multiverse.
 
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She always wore this ring. I think she doens't remember she was an anisotropic being, but when someone was attacked by any anisotropic being that ring (a type of lock) breaks and then she returns to her original form. That's my hipothesis.

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What the hell?!
For a minute, I was hoping that zaShunina discovered love and confessed his feelings to Shindo. Instead, what I got was zaShunina trying to destroy Shindo. Damn!

This unexpected turn of events has left me with a ton of questions that I hope can be answered in the remaining 3 episodes.

Yup, I wonder why yaha was being hasty and tried taking shindou with him (I guess because he is the closest human to yaha and yaha is kind of lonely maybe.. remember when shindou mother think that maybe the anisotropic are lonely)

And with the sudden transformation of tsukai. Isn't her job as the administrator is to observe (or there are more to it?) whether she is in human or anisotropic form? Yet she tried to influence another people (ex: Shindou).

And if this story end with the battle then it will be very boring (for me). I want to see more of the 'negotiaton' shindou talk about instead they suddenly battling each other (since it's futile too, yaha have all the power of anisotropic). Or there will be another anisotropic being come? Meh.

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They better explain this well, because it really was disappointing for the events to turn out this way.
It's kind of weird for zashunina to act this way. I never suspected that he could kill a human and replace him with his clone, but since his understanding is very different from ours, i don't know...

Either way i dislike the direction that show took. I prefer a slow analysis how humanity adopts new technologies, how that affects their daily lives, politics and etc. But i guess they planned only one season and needed to end this quickly. It's sad because the show had a very interesting concept that will probably remain very shallowly explored.

It's like you read my mind! But it seems the two of us are almost alone in this opinion. *Looks at the results of the poll* Oh, well. I guess that means the writers made the correct choice. (Where correct=the route that's most popular with viewers)


It's not only you two. I like it too when it's about the interaction between the anisotropic and the human, and how it will affect each another.
Yup one season is not enough. But maybe they need to end it somehow.

But if they always chose the route with the then it will boring.
 
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I kinda saw this coming a couple of weeks ago, and I hate it when I'm right.

By the way, has the manga ended?
I used to have a thought that there won't be conclusive ending.

I'm now more concern about whether if this show will turn out to be a complete mess at the end.

This is anime original.

The manga came to be because of the anime, hence it started after the anime was incepted.
 
Jun 9, 2017 9:22 PM
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I really don't coment on episodes but...
WHAT WAS THAT? OMG MOTHER OF PLOT TWIST.
 
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