Maneki-Mew said: SkyFullOfStars said: hahahahahahahaha honestly, we can go a step further and wonder if humans would exist 1000 years in the future and maybe an alien would see this post. But will he able to read english or naah? :O O_O that would be a problem! Maybe he'll research on YOI instead since it's a name? idk. |
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| My opinion? I don't care about them and I don't watch them. Why isn't there more Yaoi anime? Because the number of any genres's anime is directly proportional to the amount af audience. Aside from that, I think there are quite a few. Also, are there any "bishonen relationships in normal anime"? Because all the gay realationships I've ever seen were in yaoi anime (yes, I consider Yuri on ice a yaoi). |
Caciulacdlac said: My opinion? I don't care about them and I don't watch them. Why isn't there more Yaoi anime? Because the number of any genres's anime is directly proportional to the amount af audience. Aside from that, I think there are quite a few. Also, are there any "bishonen relationships in normal anime"? Because all the gay realationships I've ever seen were in yaoi anime (yes, I consider Yuri on ice a yaoi). No. 6, Shinsekai Yori, and Kyou Kara Maou are the only ones I can think of... |
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SkyFullOfStars said: Caciulacdlac said: My opinion? I don't care about them and I don't watch them. Why isn't there more Yaoi anime? Because the number of any genres's anime is directly proportional to the amount af audience. Aside from that, I think there are quite a few. Also, are there any "bishonen relationships in normal anime"? Because all the gay realationships I've ever seen were in yaoi anime (yes, I consider Yuri on ice a yaoi). No. 6, Shinsekai Yori, and Kyou Kara Maou are the only ones I can think of... I wouldn't call SSY a 'relationship'. In the show it is explained that they are It's been a while since I saw the show but yeah, the short homosexual making out scenes are just a plot device to flesh out the setting from what I remember. Which is why it annoyed me so much when people would drop it because the show 'suddenly turned yaoi'. These people obviously haven't paid any attention to the worldbuilding. As for the general question, I believe anything with explicit (not head canon) homosexual relationships will get tagged with either shounen-ai or Yaoi depending if it has sex or not. You'll find gay characters in a lot of other shows too, but I don't think they ever get any relationship focus unless the show is tagged with either of those tags. |
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Kyandesu said: I can't tell if people are honestly trying to argue on this thread that Yuri On Ice doesn't have heavy homosexual subtext supporting a romance between Victor and Yuri, or if they're just trolling us all..... I don't think anyone is denying that there is subtext that can be interpreted as a homosexual relationship without it being a big stretch (like say Haikyuu or Free). They are just debating whether it is up to interpretation at the end of the day or 100% without a doubt canon that makes you a homophobe in denial if you don't think it's 100% confirmed. |
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Pullman said: I wouldn't call SSY a 'relationship'. In the show it is explained that they are It's been a while since I saw the show but yeah, the short homosexual making out scenes are just a plot device to flesh out the setting from what I remember. Which is why it annoyed me so much when people would drop it because the show 'suddenly turned yaoi'. These people obviously haven't paid any attention to the worldbuilding. As for the general question, I believe anything with explicit (not head canon) homosexual relationships will get tagged with either shounen-ai or Yaoi depending if it has sex or not. You'll find gay characters in a lot of other shows too, but I don't think they ever get any relationship focus unless the show is tagged with either of those tags. yeah i haven't actually watched shinsekai yori yet so idk but i find it demeaning how in 'normal' not BL-focused shows, the gay guys are often depicted as wearing makeup or something, wearing a lot of pink, speaking in weird flirty voices, like this guy: |
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SkyFullOfStars said: Pullman said: I wouldn't call SSY a 'relationship'. In the show it is explained that they are It's been a while since I saw the show but yeah, the short homosexual making out scenes are just a plot device to flesh out the setting from what I remember. Which is why it annoyed me so much when people would drop it because the show 'suddenly turned yaoi'. These people obviously haven't paid any attention to the worldbuilding. As for the general question, I believe anything with explicit (not head canon) homosexual relationships will get tagged with either shounen-ai or Yaoi depending if it has sex or not. You'll find gay characters in a lot of other shows too, but I don't think they ever get any relationship focus unless the show is tagged with either of those tags. yeah i haven't actually watched shinsekai yori yet so idk but i find it demeaning how in 'normal' not BL-focused shows, the gay guys are often depicted as wearing makeup or something, wearing a lot of pink, speaking in weird flirty voices, like this guy: Well those are 'okama' characters which is like a whole archetype and yeah it is problematic. Only recently has the Japanese language begun to distinguish sex and gender. Additionally, no explicit connection had been made prior between gender and sexual preference. The Japanese adopted the English term gender (jendaa) to describe cultural concepts of feminine and masculine. Previously, sei was used to distinguish the binary biological sexes, female and male, as well as the concept of gender. Many terms describing gender presentation had vastly irregular meanings such as okama, whose definitions included: a gay male, a feminine-behaving male, or a crossdresser. Umbrella terms such as these had a negative sociological impact, generalizing various queer identities into a single concept. Similar to the experience of LGBTQIA persons in other countries, Japanese queers lacked the linguistic space to exist in. So yeah the tendency to combine transvestites, feminine behaviour and gay males into this one concept of 'Okama' (and attaching the other 2 aspects to either of them whenever they appear) is based on japanese linguistics not being up to date with modern LGBT theories. That's why this archetype is so popular in anime and always depics similar kind of guys while there isn't really any other kind of homosexual characters except in more recent works. If it's a feminine guy, a gay guy or a transvestite, it'll more often than not just be depicted as an Okama who combines all three of these trades. I don't think it's necessarily demeaning, it just shows a severe lack of an ability to make these distinctions. Which is why LGBT/Queer theory is needed. Japan is just way behind in these aspects. |
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Pullman said: I wouldn't call SSY a 'relationship'. In the show it is explained that they are It's been a while since I saw the show but yeah, the short homosexual making out scenes are just a plot device to flesh out the setting from what I remember. Which is why it annoyed me so much when people would drop it because the show 'suddenly turned yaoi'. These people obviously haven't paid any attention to the worldbuilding. As for the general question, I believe anything with explicit (not head canon) homosexual relationships will get tagged with either shounen-ai or Yaoi depending if it has sex or not. You'll find gay characters in a lot of other shows too, but I don't think they ever get any relationship focus unless the show is tagged with either of those tags. I think calling SSY "Yaoi" is really weird, it's a science-fiction first and foremost, it's like calling any anime with sex "hentai". |
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Jin_uzuki said: Pullman said: I wouldn't call SSY a 'relationship'. In the show it is explained that they are It's been a while since I saw the show but yeah, the short homosexual making out scenes are just a plot device to flesh out the setting from what I remember. Which is why it annoyed me so much when people would drop it because the show 'suddenly turned yaoi'. These people obviously haven't paid any attention to the worldbuilding. As for the general question, I believe anything with explicit (not head canon) homosexual relationships will get tagged with either shounen-ai or Yaoi depending if it has sex or not. You'll find gay characters in a lot of other shows too, but I don't think they ever get any relationship focus unless the show is tagged with either of those tags. I do agree that calling SSY "Yaoi" is really weird, it's a science-fiction first and foremost, it's like calling any anime with sex "hentai". |
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| I like Shounen-Ai more than Yaoi. Shounen-Ai is more about the relationship betweem characters. Yaois even have sex. Well... most of the Shounen-Ai Animes are Yaoi too. I like them because I don't see anything wrong with it. I don't have anything against Shoujo-Ai or Yuri but I enjoy Shounen-Ai/Yaoi more. Maybe because I'm a girl and I'm not that much into girls relationships. But I like to watch Shoujo-Ai, if it's a good Anime. |
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| heterosexual relationships are the only normal relationshion ship type and should be always be the most popular i kinda like Yuri not yaoi tho but just because it is anime in real life I am against both yuri and yaoi since they are not normal but oh well that is my opinion |
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kikyo1hinamora said: heterosexual relationships are the only normal relationshion ship type and should be always be the most popular i kinda like Yuri not yaoi tho but just because it is anime in real life I am against both yuri and yaoi since they are not normal but oh well that is my opinion You like yuri and not yaoi bc like practically every straight male out there, the thought of two guys having sex grosses you out. Bc if you're strictly homophobic, you'd be against both yuri AND yaoi. But you aren't. You're what I'd call a convenient homophobe. GirlxGirl action is cute/hot but GuyxGuy is despicable, amirite? |
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