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May 30, 2017 11:33 AM

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wen294 said:
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Lamb already bluff before when he was alive so him bluffing again now that he got grapes spot is not a crazy idea. I was talking about his claim.
We don't know if Penta will modkill him compared to others that are completely MIA

Rules are rules.
Why make them if you're not gonna keep them.

In a previous game i played players were prodded first and only afterward mod killed.
 
May 30, 2017 11:34 AM

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yurkin said:
#1494 because everyone pretty much wants their head on a pike.

-ah is that so, then go on.
Lol gruffing are you mafia after all?
Now, now. I assure you I'm town this game.

What were you expecting to get out of this question?
 
May 30, 2017 11:40 AM

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Gruffin said:
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#1494 because everyone pretty much wants their head on a pike.

-ah is that so, then go on.
Lol gruffing are you mafia after all?
Now, now. I assure you I'm town this game.

What were you expecting to get out of this question?

If that was a question i wanted you to answer i should have tagged you. This was rhetorical question.
You can't assure me at such stuff as you want me dead >:
 
May 30, 2017 11:40 AM

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wen294 said:
Dear @Ruu did you even read what i wrote?
Bee-Boy, Floofs and Lambyga didn't reach the 5 post a day requirement and thus they should, according to the rules, be modkilled. From this point onwards there is no use discussing them as they're effectively dead already.

Floofs posted 4 posts this phase. His 5th post was after the Time by Penta and thus should not be counted as a post made during the day.
Bee-Boy made 1 post during the day or maybe 0, not entirely sure. Lambyga made 3 or so.
@Pentaflare can we get confirmation on this? (especially the fact that Floofs is dead, since this is important for our night actions and the rules state the activity rule only counts day posts so technically he should already be a dead man walking)

If for some reason Penta decides not to mod-kill Floofs and only make this clear to us after it's too late to submit night actions i'll be salty.

Anyways Ruu, by PoE Yurkin should be scum for you, since you town read everybody else at this point in time.

Bee-Boy is up for modkill if he has not checked in by the end if the night phase. Laby will only be modkilled after the day phase if activity doesn't increase. Floofs is in no risk of modkill.
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May 30, 2017 11:46 AM

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yurkin said:
Lol gruffing are you mafia after all?
well hello there yurk
 
May 30, 2017 11:47 AM

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Also @Fo I think I asked you to discuss reads with Floofs or something. No longer necessary since we've got some leads now; feel free to ignore if you wish.
You mean because he scumclaimed?
 
May 30, 2017 11:50 AM

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wen294 said:
Also with the level of inactivity i don't feel comfortable prolonging this.
@Yurkin @Gruffin @DenjaX @Ruu @Suzune-chan @Fo
We seriously need to get our shit together. With the votes spread around all over the place like it is now it's WAY too easy for scum to change it in their favour without looking suspicious.

I'll role claim here: I'm the vigilante
I can go in more detail if needed, but i'd rather not give scum a helping hand in what to look for when fake-claiming a PR.
And as already deduced, i was the person that shot CorruptedPurity in the night. Would be real swell if you guys could move the votes away from me.
deja vu xD not sure why you @'d me here either but since I'm responding to this might as well ask why?
 
May 30, 2017 11:50 AM

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Fo said:
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Lol gruffing are you mafia after all?
well hello there yurk

well hello there fo
 
May 30, 2017 11:57 AM

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PentaFlare said:
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Dear @Ruu did you even read what i wrote?
Bee-Boy, Floofs and Lambyga didn't reach the 5 post a day requirement and thus they should, according to the rules, be modkilled. From this point onwards there is no use discussing them as they're effectively dead already.

Floofs posted 4 posts this phase. His 5th post was after the Time by Penta and thus should not be counted as a post made during the day.
Bee-Boy made 1 post during the day or maybe 0, not entirely sure. Lambyga made 3 or so.
@Pentaflare can we get confirmation on this? (especially the fact that Floofs is dead, since this is important for our night actions and the rules state the activity rule only counts day posts so technically he should already be a dead man walking)

If for some reason Penta decides not to mod-kill Floofs and only make this clear to us after it's too late to submit night actions i'll be salty.

Anyways Ruu, by PoE Yurkin should be scum for you, since you town read everybody else at this point in time.

Bee-Boy is up for modkill if he has not checked in by the end if the night phase. Laby will only be modkilled after the day phase if activity doesn't increase. Floofs is in no risk of modkill.

eh. Well that's not very usefull.
@laby-gaga you're practically dead already. If you can still read this in time, night kill Floofs for me will ya?
 
May 30, 2017 11:58 AM

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Fo said:
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Also with the level of inactivity i don't feel comfortable prolonging this.
@Yurkin @Gruffin @DenjaX @Ruu @Suzune-chan @Fo
We seriously need to get our shit together. With the votes spread around all over the place like it is now it's WAY too easy for scum to change it in their favour without looking suspicious.

I'll role claim here: I'm the vigilante
I can go in more detail if needed, but i'd rather not give scum a helping hand in what to look for when fake-claiming a PR.
And as already deduced, i was the person that shot CorruptedPurity in the night. Would be real swell if you guys could move the votes away from me.
deja vu xD not sure why you @'d me here either but since I'm responding to this might as well ask why?

As i said before, even if you don't vote me you can still vote so that i don't get lynched by voting on the bigger alternative. It's insurance in case the people that voted on me don't come online in time or pretend not to come online in time.
 
May 30, 2017 12:01 PM

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I’m gonna be honest I can see this as town too though because like.. since town have to form cases themselves they will be more attached to them, so they are more likely to tunnel or something like that. When I have a case on a person and question them it really rarely helps me or changes my mind, a lot of times I don’t even put stock into direct interactions with someone I’m scumreading. If you remember Logic earlier this game too one thing you mentioned suspicious about him was his refusal to change his mind, but it’s something I also read as town.
I think what you (and maybe other people which is why I"m gonna respond to this even though you're already dead) are missing here is that it isn't just this particular instance, it's been a game long push; I'm just lazy to go and quote all the inquiries because this forum was created in the stoneage and thought I was doing a good enough job getting my point across but evidently not. Like, you're comparing apples and oranges pretty much when town get confbiased and push really hard death tunnel, which is what I think you may be referring to with the "when town get caught up on a read they keep pushing" but the thing is; the questions they ask aren't this soft on the regular.

In other words there's a difference between this:
"Why did you do this scummy thing you scumbastard!?"

and

"Hello good fellow, was just curious why you did this scummy action at that time, give me some explanation when you've got a moment to spare?"

BOTH are setting the people they're asking the question to up for failure but one of them is pretending to care about the answer.

And the difference boils down to a couple things. Not having the push stand out, conviction (there's hardly any here) and keeping your options open (whether that's the person your pushing's read on you, or your ability to change that read if it becomes convenient.)

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So people voting wen; what's scummy about post [post]1245[/post]?
You seem to like the case, is it enough to convince you ?
No not really or else I would have voted right then and there.
 
May 30, 2017 12:07 PM

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wen294 said:
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deja vu xD not sure why you @'d me here either but since I'm responding to this might as well ask why?

As i said before, even if you don't vote me you can still vote so that i don't get lynched by voting on the bigger alternative. It's insurance in case the people that voted on me don't come online in time or pretend not to come online in time.
I guess I just didn't feel like there was enough of a case on you that a claim was necessary but now that I think about it we've lynched people for less so far this game.

Hopefully from here out I'll be around to supervise the lynches; this weekend was a lot of family time that I needed to spend.
 
May 30, 2017 12:28 PM

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wen294 said:
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omg screw this slot.

@wen294 sorry I am protecting myself. I am so gonna lynch these scum bags so hard. You are most likely vanilla now anyway
Well you do that then. Protecting penta might be a good idea as well, we'd be screwed if he died.
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ok ill protect the host tonight. I cant risk the game to die after all.

Btw, I was a star athlete so I am buffed

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May 30, 2017 12:39 PM
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Can't quote for shit from ph sorry.
@Gruffin
Didn't mention it but I assumed it obvious given the circumstances I wasn't really going to be shooting those I asked lol, that would go against the point behind such an exit.

I'll just read that as yurkin.
 
May 30, 2017 12:43 PM
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Yeeaahhhh can't really pull out at this point and given the post by host....
For the time being, I think the best call so far would be floofs.
Unless others post something worthwhile within the next hour or so, it won't be likely to change.
Cheers wen.
 
May 30, 2017 1:18 PM

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Floofs it is.

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If that was a question i wanted you to answer i should have tagged you. This was rhetorical question.
You can't assure me at such stuff as you want me dead >:
Do you think you could give me some thoughts on EoD2?
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Also @Fo I think I asked you to discuss reads with Floofs or something. No longer necessary since we've got some leads now; feel free to ignore if you wish.
You mean because he scumclaimed?
Pretty much. :P
 
May 30, 2017 1:52 PM
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Righto~
Guess that works then
Won't be back for another 3-4 hrs at-least and even then I usually can't afford to waste time and data on browsing during lunch.
Gl town.
 
May 30, 2017 1:57 PM

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Btw, I was a star athlete so I am buffed

 
May 30, 2017 2:01 PM

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I dont believe it. I think it's a fake claim.
What? Really...


Cops aren't suppose to claim early in the game. I think in one of the guides is says cops shouldn't claim until around day 3 or 4. Togs waited until the end of the day to claim. Scum would do this so they won't get lynched.
 
May 30, 2017 3:08 PM

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@wen294 why Floofs over yurkin? I'm more worried about her tbh. I'm in class rn, I'll post a more detailed case later. Is this because Floofs said the cop claim was fake?
 
May 30, 2017 3:10 PM

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Floofs said:
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What? Really...


Cops aren't suppose to claim early in the game. I think in one of the guides is says cops shouldn't claim until around day 3 or 4. Togs waited until the end of the day to claim. Scum would do this so they won't get lynched.


Togs waited until a claim was the only way to survive the lynch , that's the right way to do things.
 
May 30, 2017 3:12 PM

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I reeeally hope Astros/Bee-boy is mafia tbh xD
 
May 30, 2017 3:14 PM

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Hrm.

I'm hoping Floofs isn't just newb town not understanding how claims work.

Well, we'll see I suppose.
 
May 30, 2017 4:00 PM

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Day 3

Bee-Boy has been modkilled. They were:

Laby-Gaga has been killed. They were:

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May 30, 2017 4:05 PM

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Ayyyyy one more to go.

Vote: Floofs

...And the real SK, I suppose. >_>
 
May 30, 2017 4:11 PM

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@wen294 why Floofs over yurkin? I'm more worried about her tbh. I'm in class rn, I'll post a more detailed case later. Is this because Floofs said the cop claim was fake?

Can't wait for your "detailed case" on me ruu lol
 
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Thanks doc

And lmao lamby... Real SK killed you i suppose.

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May 30, 2017 4:26 PM

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@yurkin Can you please reply to 1516?
 
May 30, 2017 4:29 PM

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Or it was the mafia who killed him.

Oh yeah and
@ruu
Why of all people in the game at that time you decided to make an astros iso ?
 
May 30, 2017 4:36 PM

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@yurkin Can you please reply to 1516?

Here is 2:30am, do give my thought ill have to reread the eod2... in the morning that is.
Thought eh - is there something specific u want to ask me about that eod, or just in general.
 
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yurkin said:
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@yurkin Can you please reply to 1516?

Here is 2:30am, do give my thought ill have to reread the eod2... in the morning that is.
Thought eh - is there something specific u want to ask me about that eod, or just in general.
General thoughts mostly, but it can wait, get some sleep.
 
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Hrm.

I'm hoping Floofs isn't just newb town not understanding how claims work.

Well, we'll see I suppose.
Thing is if floofs is actually only in his like 2nd game then I'm thinking the way he went about eod2 is that much more of a scumclaim.

Think about it you're scum and have no idea what you're doing. Someone claims cop, most powerful town role in the game and you haven't yet learned how to properly react to things you have more of a one-dimensional thought process that's pretty much..

"Oh hey I need to kill the cop"
 
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vote: floofs
 
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..................

Can someone give me a second opinion on Yurkin/Floofs? I'm thinking one of the two are the scum on the Togs wagon. Floofs vote looks immediately worse, but Togs was already run-up by then and Yurkin just kinda...lingered.

Idk, I'm worried that Floofs is just derp town from their position on the wagon and 1519. Maaaybe I gut read Yurkin too hastily too, because they seem to be cheeky towards everyone, not just their suspects.
 
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[quote=Suzune-chan message=50905318]
Fo said:
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But bascially, I was baiting Grrr to check me.

Pings all caught up~
Can you quote where you did this exactly?


https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1617765&show=500#msg50861659

There is the link you want.

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@Fo what is a mafia doctor? Isn't this a basic setup? we shouldn't have that kind of roles I think.... I'm not a big fan of your #470 at all. I don't fully trust Rinto but your reasoning is not convincing either.



This post is a HUGE RED FLAG FOR ME. I see this as flavour/role fishing. If you are town you should have no doubts like this imo. Also how do you guys feel about the idea of grrr being a mafia role cop ? Is a possibility since mafia needs some kind of pr.
Then let him check me Ruu. I know what my ability is and my alignment, I would be willing to test the theory. I said that in order to claim something like that this early some part of it would have to be grounded in truth.
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wtf lamb wtf! why do you keep lying? do you hate this town so much! ughh I'm so angry right now.

And I really need to start going with my gut. I was right about Astros too! Why do I keep doubting my reads? ughh

I need to do the dishes are my dad will kill me. I will be back in a few min.
 
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Mostly because it doesn't make sense at all to test grrr's cop claim by way of abilities. Looks like she's just fishing in any way possible to get invested and not even thinking about anything.

And the post is just really bad in general as well.
 
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Thing is if floofs is actually only in his like 2nd game then I'm thinking the way he went about eod2 is that much more of a scumclaim.

Think about it you're scum and have no idea what you're doing. Someone claims cop, most powerful town role in the game and you haven't yet learned how to properly react to things you have more of a one-dimensional thought process that's pretty much..

"Oh hey I need to kill the cop"
Ohey.

Yeah, that's kind of where I was at until Floofs posted 1519. I'm thinking about how a newb who has limited understanding on how claims work would approach the situation, and it kiiind of matches up with the thought process they supplied.

Plus, Togs was pretty much already dead at that point--There was no need to add another vote and incriminate themselves. Or at least, I would not have in their position.

Okay yeah, I've talked myself out of it.

Vote: Yurkin
 
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..................

Can someone give me a second opinion on Yurkin/Floofs? I'm thinking one of the two are the scum on the Togs wagon. Floofs vote looks immediately worse, but Togs was already run-up by then and Yurkin just kinda...lingered.

Idk, I'm worried that Floofs is just derp town from their position on the wagon and 1519. Maaaybe I gut read Yurkin too hastily too, because they seem to be cheeky towards everyone, not just their suspects.
Floofs looks bad for not getting off the wagon, Yukin looks bad for trying to defend this place on the wagon. Part of me wonders if it is Yukin as mafia ad Floofs as just new...

Vote: Yurkin

I'm willing to go this direction. Floofs made a poor play and decided to deny the claim right at the end. While Yurkin was online before the phase and choose to defend their position on it by claiming they were there before the claim. Meaning they must have doubted the claim, but chastised Floof for staying on it.

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May 30, 2017 4:59 PM

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Mostly because it doesn't make sense at all to test grrr's cop claim by way of abilities. Looks like she's just fishing in any way possible to get invested and not even thinking about anything.

And the post is just really bad in general as well.
Grrr ,enjoys gambling early so I wanted to see what he was planning. Plus it was fun and talking to grrr is always interesting. So yes, I did not realize in the long the ramifications that it would have.

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What? Really...


Cops aren't suppose to claim early in the game. I think in one of the guides is says cops shouldn't claim until around day 3 or 4. Togs waited until the end of the day to claim. Scum would do this so they won't get lynched.
Town would also do that to not get lynched. If put into a poor situation the cop has to claim regardless of what day it currently is.

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If Suzu is GF, then that means the Togs wagon was all town...Which is really weird to think about.
 
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@Denja
I thought you were a doc? You more than likely stopped a kill since we only had one and N1 there was three and don't really see any harm in you claiming a target.
 
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Was anyone afk N2?
 
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@gruffin

I mean yea that's a buyable thought process but remember floofs had 48 hours to come up with and if he's scum he's got buddies to help him out.

That also begs the question why that thought process wasn't a thing when he cast the vote in the first place.

Have you made any posts on yurkin that I might've missed? I'm kinda gut-leaning town there as well but it might be laziness because I know there's probably not gonna be a shitton of content from him any time soon to get a better read by. Abu was like nullscum kinda lurky at least yurkin's kinda been around.
 
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@gruffin

I mean yea that's a buyable thought process but remember floofs had 48 hours to come up with and if he's scum he's got buddies to help him out.

That also begs the question why that thought process wasn't a thing when he cast the vote in the first place.

Have you made any posts on yurkin that I might've missed? I'm kinda gut-leaning town there as well but it might be laziness because I know there's probably not gonna be a shitton of content from him any time soon to get a better read by. Abu was like nullscum kinda lurky at least yurkin's kinda been around.
True, true. I may need to reread EoD2 again and get back to you on this, actually.

Uhm, I had this response to Ruu explaining why Yurkin was so far up my list N2. Probably one of the weakest reads I've given this game though considering how gut-based it is.
 
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hrmm

I dunno guys I've been kinda thinking gruffin and suz were scum and here they are coming at yurkin and floofs with the exact same angle. (which one of you started the "well floofs might just be new let's wagon yurkin" angle because it's hard to tell who's sheeping who there)

To be fair floofs vote was super bad and he only recently popped in to make one post which's end goal was to appease the pressure of that so maybe I'm just hindsight biasing but hear me out on why you're going about it in a scummy at best wrong at worst way

It's kind of a false dichotomy to say that one of them has to be scum because.. actually I'm not even sure where the dichotomy comes from..

Is it the togs wagon?
 
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Mostly because it doesn't make sense at all to test grrr's cop claim by way of abilities. Looks like she's just fishing in any way possible to get invested and not even thinking about anything.

And the post is just really bad in general as well.
Grrr ,enjoys gambling early so I wanted to see what he was planning. Plus it was fun and talking to grrr is always interesting. So yes, I did not realize in the long the ramifications that it would have.
I guess I'm just confused how you planned to see what he was planning by asking him to cop check you and why he needed to have a plan in the first place
 
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My good townreads are ruu and denja but that doesn't help much because they both could easily be tpr and even denja I'm kinda wavering on because he keeps doing weird shit.

 
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Fo said:
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Grrr ,enjoys gambling early so I wanted to see what he was planning. Plus it was fun and talking to grrr is always interesting. So yes, I did not realize in the long the ramifications that it would have.
I guess I'm just confused how you planned to see what he was planning by asking him to cop check you and why he needed to have a plan in the first place
Because I enjoy figuring out Grrr angle. He was so full of bluster this time, I thought to poke it.

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