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| Future Trunks have an healing ability sound a bit dumb but oh well.... at least it is explained how Mai and Gowasu is still alive even through in the previous chapters both of them are nearly dead. Seriously the concept of MSSB was nice but the way Toyotaro explain it so stupid and make completely no sense; how is Goku able to mastered? Why Vegeta literally trained in RoSaT for 3 years and it still can't mastered it other than able to continuous transformed into SSJ God and SSB back and back? How is MSSB are ABLE on par against Fusion Zamasu? (I know Fusion Zamasu here is way weaker than the anime but still...) Why MSSB still having a stamina issue even through it is mastered version of SSB (And having his body injure if keep using the form for a long time). Basically MSSB was a SSB Kaioken without the aura and nothing special (Hell I perfer Toei SSB more than this one even through Toei making the form weak as f**k), even SSJ Rage was make WAY more sense than MSSB did. (At least the form was came through anger and making Trunks very angry) Other than that, the whole chapter was ok. I really like how Zamasu using Janenba's portal attack against both Goku and Vegeta. But still maybe this chapter was one of the worst Super manga chapter ever because of the whole MSSB thing was make way no sense than SSJ Rage or Trunks learned Mafuban for 3 second does. (At least in my opinion) |
| I'm really not liking this, since Trunks becoming a disciple only open more questions than giving answers. |
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| wut i thought those that are real gods like Zamasu cannot undo the fusion done by potara rings? maybe because Goku Black have a mortal body thats why the fusion has a time limit too? but nice to see that Super Saiyan Blue is perfected by Goku now, so he does not need to go Kaioken too like in the anime EDIT: never mind since earlier chapters says that you need Kaioshin level to make the potara fusion permanent and Zamasu is only an apprentice Kaioshin |
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| Maybe it's just me, but it feels like the wait until the next chapter is directly proportional to how good the last chapter was. Chapter 22 was great, so the wait for Chapter 23 was painful. Chapter 23 was disappointing, so the wait for Chapter 24 wasn't that bad. Now Chapter 24 was great again, so another agonizing wait until Chapter 25? It was a pretty great chapter, too. The reveal that Trunks as a Kaioshin's apprentice can use Kibito's healing magic was great. Actually, it makes me wonder, does this mean Gohan can do it too? And if so, would that make Gohan and Trunks divine beings, and thus capable of going Super Saiyan Rosé? Something to think about. Goku figuring out a new way to use Super Saiyan Blue! It curbs the stamina drain, but comes with a greater cost of potentially killing him. That's a neat way to raise Goku's power while still keeping the stakes high, but it's definitely starting to feel like Super Saiyan Blue is more trouble than it's worth. Wouldn't be surprised if in the next arc, Goku and Vegeta pull out new forms. |
qwertyMrJINX said: Maybe it's just me, but it feels like the wait until the next chapter is directly proportional to how good the last chapter was. Chapter 22 was great, so the wait for Chapter 23 was painful. Chapter 23 was disappointing, so the wait for Chapter 24 wasn't that bad. Now Chapter 24 was great again, so another agonizing wait until Chapter 25? It was a pretty great chapter, too. The reveal that Trunks as a Kaioshin's apprentice can use Kibito's healing magic was great. Actually, it makes me wonder, does this mean Gohan can do it too? And if so, would that make Gohan and Trunks divine beings, and thus capable of going Super Saiyan Rosé? Something to think about. Goku figuring out a new way to use Super Saiyan Blue! It curbs the stamina drain, but comes with a greater cost of potentially killing him. That's a neat way to raise Goku's power while still keeping the stakes high, but it's definitely starting to feel like Super Saiyan Blue is more trouble than it's worth. Wouldn't be surprised if in the next arc, Goku and Vegeta pull out new forms. Nice idea with Gohan also being an apprentice, back then he might have failed to finish the ritual and rushed into fight with Buu. He was unable to transform into SSJ while Trunks has no problem with it and is even stronger than SSJ3 Goku. Hope he is an apprentice so he can be part of the cast once more. Then again the old man dance could have been a different kind of ritual that had nothing to do with apprenticeship. So we have Gohan who undergo some kind of ritual and this locked SSJ transformation but made him super strong, and we have Trunks who became Kaioshin apprentice. Did it make him stronger or did he just train and perfected it to the limit? He was able to compete with SSJ3 Goku in his SSJ form. If Gohan and Trunks ever reach SSRose or MSSB will they be able to constantly heal themselves and therefore become stronger than Goku and Vegeta? Since Vegeta gave in depth explanation of what Goku turned into then he can also do it right? Same thing when Goku pointed out Vegeta constant switching between SSR and SSB. They both explore different routes in never ending race for power. Right now Goku could loose to Vegeta even if MSSB is stronger. Will Goku and Vegeta ever recover their tails? Have we ever seen Goten and young Trunks have tail? This could lead to some different kind of development and whole new set of transformations. |
SleepnDreamn said: qwertyMrJINX said: Maybe it's just me, but it feels like the wait until the next chapter is directly proportional to how good the last chapter was. Chapter 22 was great, so the wait for Chapter 23 was painful. Chapter 23 was disappointing, so the wait for Chapter 24 wasn't that bad. Now Chapter 24 was great again, so another agonizing wait until Chapter 25? It was a pretty great chapter, too. The reveal that Trunks as a Kaioshin's apprentice can use Kibito's healing magic was great. Actually, it makes me wonder, does this mean Gohan can do it too? And if so, would that make Gohan and Trunks divine beings, and thus capable of going Super Saiyan Rosé? Something to think about. Goku figuring out a new way to use Super Saiyan Blue! It curbs the stamina drain, but comes with a greater cost of potentially killing him. That's a neat way to raise Goku's power while still keeping the stakes high, but it's definitely starting to feel like Super Saiyan Blue is more trouble than it's worth. Wouldn't be surprised if in the next arc, Goku and Vegeta pull out new forms. Nice idea with Gohan also being an apprentice, back then he might have failed to finish the ritual and rushed into fight with Buu. He was unable to transform into SSJ while Trunks has no problem with it and is even stronger than SSJ3 Goku. Hope he is an apprentice so he can be part of the cast once more. Then again the old man dance could have been a different kind of ritual that had nothing to do with apprenticeship. So we have Gohan who undergo some kind of ritual and this locked SSJ transformation but made him super strong, and we have Trunks who became Kaioshin apprentice. Did it make him stronger or did he just train and perfected it to the limit? He was able to compete with SSJ3 Goku in his SSJ form. If Gohan and Trunks ever reach SSRose or MSSB will they be able to constantly heal themselves and therefore become stronger than Goku and Vegeta? Since Vegeta gave in depth explanation of what Goku turned into then he can also do it right? Same thing when Goku pointed out Vegeta constant switching between SSR and SSB. They both explore different routes in never ending race for power. Right now Goku could loose to Vegeta even if MSSB is stronger. Will Goku and Vegeta ever recover their tails? Have we ever seen Goten and young Trunks have tail? This could lead to some different kind of development and whole new set of transformations. Well, Trunks only mentioned the dance, while Gohan had to go through the dance, and then he had to wait while the Elder Kaioshin sat in front of him with his arms out. So, perhaps being an apprentice was a pre-requisite for unlocking potential, and only the sitting part was the actual potential unlocking. |
qwertyMrJINX said: Well, Trunks only mentioned the dance, while Gohan had to go through the dance, and then he had to wait while the Elder Kaioshin sat in front of him with his arms out. So, perhaps being an apprentice was a pre-requisite for unlocking potential, and only the sitting part was the actual potential unlocking. is it the same dance ritual though? the dance ritual for Gohan was to unleash his full potential (Mystic/Ultimate Gohan) but Trunks dance ritual seems to be different and its for being a apprentice kaioshin |
chitosony3 said: j0x said: I would love to think it was the same ritual. This means that trunks can transform to mystic/Ultimate Trunks here in the manga and be the one to End Fused Zamasu just like in the Anime. What do you think?is it the same dance ritual though? the dance ritual for Gohan was to unleash his full potential (Mystic/Ultimate Gohan) but Trunks dance ritual seems to be different and its for being a apprentice kaioshin if its the same dance ritual then Gowasu and Shin should have mention it to Trunks so that he can go Mystic/Ultimate form and help Goku and Vegeta right there |
| Fused Zamasu displayed an interesting technique here which are the portal attacks, something not seen since Janemba in DBverse. |
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| I didn't like how Vegeta admitted that Goku was stronger. Vegeta is training way more than Goku, he should already be more powerful. But seeing Goku fighting with Fused Zamatsu was really cool, loved the SSJB 100%. I hope they don't use the Trunks Genki Dama-sword like in the anime, i didn't like that. |
| Another solid chapter. I really like Trunks having the healing power, it's a more natural way to give him importance in this arc, and it makes sense knowing his backstory with Supreme Kai & Kibito (helps that we got a longer look at it's backstory), plus it helps explain Mai and Gowasu's survival a lot better. I don't mind the changes with SSJ Blue either, the manga already made a great deal about how draining the form is, it's why Vegeta did so poorly against Hit here and why he needed to develop that transformation technique, so it makes sense for me here. I also like that Fused Zamasu is fighting with portals, it's a lot more visually interesting and previously, Zamasu's fighting abilities in the manga have been pretty boring in comparison to the anime, which had some cool designs to them. This helps alleviate that. |
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