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May 20, 2017 4:07 AM
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https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/theresa-may-internet-conservatives-government-a7744176.html

Theresa May is planning to introduce huge regulations on the way the internet works, allowing the government to decide what is said online.

Particular focus has been drawn to the end of the manifesto, which makes clear that the Tories want to introduce huge changes to the way the internet works.

"Some people say that it is not for government to regulate when it comes to technology and the internet," it states. "We disagree."

Senior Tories confirmed to BuzzFeed News that the phrasing indicates that the government intends to introduce huge restrictions on what people can post, share and publish online.

The plans will allow Britain to become "the global leader in the regulation of the use of personal data and the internet", the manifesto claims.

It comes just soon after the Investigatory Powers Act came into law. That legislation allowed the government to force internet companies to keep records on their customers' browsing histories, as well as giving ministers the power to break apps like WhatsApp so that messages can be read.

The manifesto makes reference to those increased powers, saying that the government will work even harder to ensure there is no "safe space for terrorists to be able to communicate online". That is apparently a reference in part to its work to encourage technology companies to build backdoors into their encrypted messaging services – which gives the government the ability to read terrorists' messages, but also weakens the security of everyone else's messages, technology companies have warned.

The government now appears to be launching a similarly radical change in the way that social networks and internet companies work. While much of the internet is currently controlled by private businesses like Google and Facebook, Theresa May intends to allow government to decide what is and isn't published, the manifesto suggests.

The new rules would include laws that make it harder than ever to access pornographic and other websites. The government will be able to place restrictions on seeing adult content and any exceptions would have to be justified to ministers, the manifesto suggests.

The manifesto even suggests that the government might stop search engines like Google from directing people to pornographic websites. "We will put a responsibility on industry not to direct users – even unintentionally – to hate speech, pornography, or other sources of harm," the Conservatives write.

The laws would also force technology companies to delete anything that a person posted when they were under 18.

But perhaps most unusually they would be forced to help controversial government schemes like its Prevent strategy, by promoting counter-extremist narratives.

"In harnessing the digital revolution, we must take steps to protect the vulnerable and give people confidence to use the internet without fear of abuse, criminality or exposure to horrific content", the manifesto claims in a section called 'the safest place to be online'.

The plans are in keeping with the Tories' commitment that the online world must be regulated as strongly as the offline one, and that the same rules should apply in both.

"Our starting point is that online rules should reflect those that govern our lives offline," the Conservatives' manifesto says, explaining this justification for a new level of regulation.

"It should be as unacceptable to bully online as it is in the playground, as difficult to groom a young child on the internet as it is in a community, as hard for children to access violent and degrading pornography online as it is in the high street, and as difficult to commit a crime digitally as it is physically."

The manifesto also proposes that internet companies will have to pay a levy, like the one currently paid by gambling firms. Just like with gambling, that money will be used to pay for advertising schemes to tell people about the dangers of the internet, in particular being used to "support awareness and preventative activity to counter internet harms", according to the manifesto.

The Conservatives will also seek to regulate the kind of news that is posted online and how companies are paid for it. If elected, Theresa May will "take steps to protect the reliability and objectivity of information that is essential to our democracy" – and crack down on Facebook and Google to ensure that news companies get enough advertising money.

If internet companies refuse to comply with the rulings – a suggestion that some have already made about the powers in the Investigatory Powers Act – then there will be a strict and strong set of ways to punish them.

"We will introduce a sanctions regime to ensure compliance, giving regulators the ability to fine or prosecute those companies that fail in their legal duties, and to order the removal of content where it clearly breaches UK law," the manifesto reads.

In laying out its plan for increased regulation, the Tories anticipate and reject potential criticism that such rules could put people at risk.

"While we cannot create this framework alone, it is for government, not private companies, to protect the security of people and ensure the fairness of the rules by which people and businesses abide," the document reads. "Nor do we agree that the risks of such an approach outweigh the potential benefits."


Unless Apps like WhatsApp (which is talked about) consents to installing a backdoor in their app (which would render their security meaningless) that part is technically impossible.

And given the UK has declared war on all sorts of stuff online like even memes, doesn't feel right.
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The new rules would include laws that make it harder than ever to access pornographic and other websites. The government will be able to place restrictions on seeing adult content and any exceptions would have to be justified to ministers, the manifesto suggests.

The manifesto even suggests that the government might stop search engines like Google from directing people to pornographic websites. "We will put a responsibility on industry not to direct users – even unintentionally – to hate speech, pornography, or other sources of harm," the Conservatives write.


Considering Theresa May is a shriveled up hag with her cherry intact, I take it asking her for permission to watch High School DxD would get me thrown into an oven.
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The new rules would include laws that make it harder than ever to access pornographic and other websites. The government will be able to place restrictions on seeing adult content and any exceptions would have to be justified to ministers, the manifesto suggests.

The manifesto even suggests that the government might stop search engines like Google from directing people to pornographic websites. "We will put a responsibility on industry not to direct users – even unintentionally – to hate speech, pornography, or other sources of harm," the Conservatives write.


Considering Theresa May is a shriveled up hag with her cherry intact, I take it asking her for permission to view my lolis would get me thrown into an oven.


there is your conservtve goverment for you she a daeugthe of minister FFS for he us this merry whitehouse alove again
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DateYutaka said:
Ratohnhaketon said:


Considering Theresa May is a shriveled up hag with her cherry intact, I take it asking her for permission to view my lolis would get me thrown into an oven.


there is your conservtve goverment for you she a daeugthe of minister FFS for he us this merry whitehouse alove again
Regardless of affiliation, big government overreach in our personal affairs will always spell disaster. The government is doing its job when it leaves me alone to enjoy life as I see fit.
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Ratohnhaketon said:
DateYutaka said:


there is your conservtve goverment for you she a daeugthe of minister FFS for he us this merry whitehouse alove again
Regardless of affiliation, big government overreach in our personal affairs will always spell disaster. The government is doing its job when it leaves me alone to enjoy life as I see fit.


i agree on that but its overall the riight wing evengealcs that will do shot like that like the video nasties in the 80's wehn whitehouse got old maggie's ear
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DateYutaka said:
Ratohnhaketon said:
Regardless of affiliation, big government overreach in our personal affairs will always spell disaster. The government is doing its job when it leaves me alone to enjoy life as I see fit.


i agree on that but its overall the riight wing evengealcs that will do shot like that like the video nasties in the 80's wehn whitehouse got old maggie's ear
I guess I've spent too much time around younger "conservatives" (i.e. right leaning libertarians) and forgot about how much of a joy-kill the old guard is. The worst part about regulating "pornographic material" is that it's going to arbitrarily cover anything and everything that they deem inappropriate. They have no experience with the very content they're trying to control. It's like letting a casual decide which shows you get to watch each season. I can just see this exchange happening:

Me: Hey, can I watch GochiUsa?
Minister: Good god, how appalling! That's child porn!
Me: No! Dude, it's just lolis having a good time.
Minister: Arrest that man, officers!

Meanwhile he's having a liaison with his secretary and hiring god knows how many underage Filipino male slaves every night.
May 20, 2017 7:14 AM
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Aaaah how can they control the internet? It's not going to happen.
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May 20, 2017 7:41 AM
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Aaaah how can they control the internet? It's not going to happen.
people can look at north korea and china. they keep you from accessing sites they don't like U.S is headed in the same direction now as well.
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May 20, 2017 8:03 AM
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>allowing the government to decide what is said online

Tis what happens when you embrace free speech so much... :/

> "We will put a responsibility on industry not to direct users – even unintentionally – to hate speech, pornography, or other sources of harm,"

Good bye lolis... :/

I wonder what will happen to Canada... The rest of the world is banging their heads on this shit...
May 20, 2017 8:17 AM

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May you're making a big mistake, you're supposed to oppose people like the BBC not grant their destructive wishes.


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I can't even choose proper words for UK in recent months.
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May you're making a big mistake, you're supposed to oppose people like the BBC not grant their destructive wishes.


you mean another big mistake on top of brexit :P

welcome to the ultimate form of isolationist enjoy your stay
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May 20, 2017 9:26 AM

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"who here members when the internet was not so fucking boring and controlled"
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like they literally want it to be an extension of the government it seems. controlling 'hate' speech and 'fake news' and even companies like google and facebook wtf.


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I've always wondered when we'd see another network pop up. I always assumed it would be from people getting tired of how regulated this one has become and moving to start up their own. I guess it would take the darknet being gutted for something like that to happen though.

The election this June is going to be interesting.
May 20, 2017 11:37 AM

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everyone will still vote tory though....ffs
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everyone will still vote tory though....ffs


jeremy corbyn is just so.......unelectable though.

i like the fact that labour don't want us to die but on the other hand jeremy cormbyn just jst doesn't have charisma, he always looks bored.
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earnshaw30 said:
everyone will still vote tory though....ffs


jeremy corbyn is just so.......unelectable though.



i like the fact that labour don't want us to die but on the other hand jeremy cormbyn just jst doesn't have charisma, he always looks bored.


how old are you this is the first time labour has been proper lefy in your life time[ muins for 2 years or son under smith that is two years out of th last 3 decades] if i was from the uk id vote labor right away this first time id culd say that s in my life witch is odd if you consder the fact the part iv been amember of for years[ is Labour party sister party in my nation]
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And here I thought leaving the EU was all about escaping stupid regulations, not imposing new ones
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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May you're making a big mistake, you're supposed to oppose people like the BBC not grant their destructive wishes.


this not not the so call evil left no more this the moralizing right and all you can do i attakc the BBC and you call your slef left wing
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

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And here I thought leaving the EU was all about escaping stupid regulations, not imposing new ones


and watch workers Rights in the uk go up the creek as well

as Taresa "Eve peron" May build her cult of personality in the far right press
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

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The new rules would include laws that make it harder than ever to access pornographic and other websites. The government will be able to place restrictions on seeing adult content and any exceptions would have to be justified to ministers, the manifesto suggests.

The manifesto even suggests that the government might stop search engines like Google from directing people to pornographic websites. "We will put a responsibility on industry not to direct users – even unintentionally – to hate speech, pornography, or other sources of harm," the Conservatives write.


Considering Theresa May is a shriveled up hag with her cherry intact, I take it asking her for permission to watch High School DxD would get me thrown into an oven.


If she refuses you DxD, you can tell her to shove it in her ass, since it's officially been classified "15" in the UK.
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I would say it is not going to happen anyways but it probably is.

Fuck the Tories.

Seriously I am considering moving from here and the only thing that is really stopping me is the lack of any idea of where to move and what to do there.
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And here I thought leaving the EU was all about escaping stupid regulations, not imposing new ones


well i did warn people this would happen but does any one listen nope, then they come crying about how unjust there own country is being after becoming extreme isolationist.

well all i can say on this matter is

"among monsters and humans, there are only two types.
Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice
“Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume
“Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus

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Nicely done UK, when someone write "minotaur-loli-horse-rape" hentai into a web brovser the SWAT team will breach into his house...
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I don't agree with Corbyn's policies but I will vote for him, Conservative manifesto is a load of bollocks they're so confident about winning (Not that I'd blame them its almost certain). I do worry as the conservatives have had a bit of monopoly since they ruined the Liberal Democrats in 2010, there is no real opposition anymore so they can do what they want... as Corbyn tends to attract a niche audience and the party has had a lot of infighting. It seems to me we're fucked either way, Labour's policies are very extreme e.g increasing corporation tax by 7% and trying to renationalise like everything. I do worry about the economic impact of what he proposes paired with Brexit but its the lesser of two evils in this situation.. maybe the UK is ruined.
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Calm down Chairman May
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Aaaah how can they control the internet? It's not going to happen.
people can look at north korea and china. they keep you from accessing sites they don't like U.S is headed in the same direction now as well.
yeah, but if you go against the government there, you get shot on the spot. There's a difference.
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They already control the internet.

Why hasn't the English just booted the Tories by now? They are obsessed with making the UK as much a nanny state as possible. The UK needs more younger people voting to kick out the old prudes. Youth voting in the UK is quite low which is par of why Tory party has too much power. Websites need to post things to encourage more people to vote or they lose their ability to use the internet properly.
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earnshaw30 said:
everyone will still vote tory though....ffs


jeremy corbyn is just so.......unelectable though.

i like the fact that labour don't want us to die but on the other hand jeremy cormbyn just jst doesn't have charisma, he always looks bored.
he doesnt have charisma really doesnt help him his beliefs are solid though.....hence why the tories will win
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I would say it is not going to happen anyways but it probably is.

Fuck the Tories.

Seriously I am considering moving from here and the only thing that is really stopping me is the lack of any idea of where to move and what to do there.

Move to the USA! While we may have problems of our own and may not be perfect, the Constitution at least keeps us from being completely Orwellian like most of Europe. We don't censor "hate speech" here. Every attempt to censor the internet here fails because of the 1st Amendment. Also, no retarded TV tax like you have in Britainistan, lax gun laws in most states, and scenic countryside. It's also one of the easiest countries to move to and Americans are actually known for being really friendly for the most part.
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Darek said:
I would say it is not going to happen anyways but it probably is.

Fuck the Tories.

Seriously I am considering moving from here and the only thing that is really stopping me is the lack of any idea of where to move and what to do there.

Move to the USA! While we may have problems of our own and may not be perfect, the Constitution at least keeps us from being completely Orwellian like most of Europe. We don't censor "hate speech" here. Also, no retarded TV tax like you have in Britainistan, lax gun laws in most states, and scenic countryside. It's also one of the easiest countries to move to.
Moving to the USA would be easy I was a native Brit but since I am not this is not really true, technically the easiest place to get into are EU countries. I could just as well move back to where are was born but ehhhh, I lack education in that country since I was studying here most of my life, guess I have not much of a choice but to stay here and see how things are gonna turn out, at least for now. inb4 they will deport me anyways cuz brexit tbh I would not even mind XD at least it would make the decision easier. For now... I do not even have a job yet.
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I guess I've spent too much time around younger "conservatives" (i.e. right leaning libertarians) and forgot about how much of a joy-kill the old guard is.

There are plenty of anti porn crusaders among the young conservatives too, hell, there are even a few on this site.
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Ratohnhaketon said:
I guess I've spent too much time around younger "conservatives" (i.e. right leaning libertarians) and forgot about how much of a joy-kill the old guard is.

There are plenty of anti porn crusaders among the young conservatives too, hell, there are even a few on this site.
I've never really met any that I'm aware of. Hell, Milo's core fanbase was young conservatives and he's the embodiment of a pride parade. The lines between all of these terms are starting to blur. Paul Joseph Watson thinks he's a conservative. All throughout the election, I thought I had finally become a conservative. Then I talked to some really well measured classical liberals and realized I had more in common with them.

The left-right dichotomy is going extinct. It should be liberty vs regressive enslavement.
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Lost_Viking said:

Move to the USA! While we may have problems of our own and may not be perfect, the Constitution at least keeps us from being completely Orwellian like most of Europe. We don't censor "hate speech" here. Also, no retarded TV tax like you have in Britainistan, lax gun laws in most states, and scenic countryside. It's also one of the easiest countries to move to.
Moving to the USA would be easy I was a native Brit but since I am not this is not really true, technically the easiest place to get into are EU countries. I could just as well move back to where are was born but ehhhh, I lack education in that country since I was studying here most of my life, guess I have not much of a choice but to stay here and see how things are gonna turn out, at least for now. inb4 they will deport me anyways cuz brexit tbh I would not even mind XD at least it would make the decision easier. For now... I do not even have a job yet.

I could trade you. I go there you go to the US. Although I am no aware if such a thing exists to swap places with people in countries.

Also the UK seriously needs to create a separate freedom of movement deal with various european countries with addition of Canada and the US or something.
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They already control the internet.

Why hasn't the English just booted the Tories by now? They are obsessed with making the UK as much a nanny state as possible. The UK needs more younger people voting to kick out the old prudes. Youth voting in the UK is quite low which is par of why Tory party has too much power. Websites need to post things to encourage more people to vote or they lose their ability to use the internet properly.


End of history man. Most people in the UK have just become completely apathetic because they see all the corruption as just "the way things are".

The present conditions of authority and austerity in the UK have almost become physical laws that have to paid the same adherence as the laws of motion themselves (although admittedly that does sound dramatic).
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Lol we're about to become China apparently. Whatever, there's always a way around the rules.
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they see all the corruption as just "the way things are".

Yeah that's pretty much me right now
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Lobinde said:
traed said:
They already control the internet.

Why hasn't the English just booted the Tories by now? They are obsessed with making the UK as much a nanny state as possible. The UK needs more younger people voting to kick out the old prudes. Youth voting in the UK is quite low which is par of why Tory party has too much power. Websites need to post things to encourage more people to vote or they lose their ability to use the internet properly.


End of history man. Most people in the UK have just become completely apathetic because they see all the corruption as just "the way things are".

The present conditions of authority and austerity in the UK have almost become physical laws that have to paid the same adherence as the laws of motion themselves (although admittedly that does sound dramatic).


Probably doesnt help the UK is one of the most self loathing countries on the planet.
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