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May 22, 2017 7:10 AM

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Thrashinuva said:
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Don't get me wrong, I like speedrunning as a concept, but from what I've seen in the community it's all just highschool drama among edgy neckbeards, rude people, lowlife junkies, never short of cringefests, shameless cashgrabbers exploiting the scene claiming it's for a good cause. I might be biased but the whole thing has definitely left a bad taste for me. There are a select few really cool people though.
But did the community ruin the game? When all of it is relegated to a 72 hour stream once a year where you only experience a person playing a particular game for 1-3 hours at a time, does that really ruin the game? Does finding out about glitches and stuff ruin the game?
What "ruins a game" is subjective. It's kind of weird when someone says a fandom ruins a game for example, since it's all about whether something annoys you or not. In that regard you could say the community has ruined many games. Of course the actual activity of speedrunning alone doesn't have a negative effect. But all of that was never my point. My point was simply to slander the speedrun community as I felt it had some sort of relevance to the topic.
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I would say Call of Duty, but that's a given at this point.

May 22, 2017 12:30 PM

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AntwanMantilla said:
>inb4 Undertale and FNAF cause clearly you need to see what the community is like to actually enjoy the game instead of staying away or ignoring them like a normal person.

Oh wait..... sighs
Don't get me wrong, I still played and enjoyed both Undertale and FNAF (though Undertale is miles ahead of FNAF in quality). But the community that surrounded the game was annoying. There was so much shit flinging and so much really awful content put out that was almost impossible to ignore, and that soured the overall enjoyment of content surrounding the game. The game itself was fantastic of course, and it still holds a strong place in my heart. I just wish it had a much calmer life.
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MortalMelancholy said:
Maplestory. The community and the hackers ruined the game even before Nexon managed to do so.


Nah, Nexon destroyed the shit out of MS with the introduction of cubes and potential.

May 22, 2017 12:44 PM

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May 22, 2017 1:10 PM

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hoopla123 said:
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Maplestory. The community and the hackers ruined the game even before Nexon managed to do so.


Nah, Nexon destroyed the shit out of MS with the introduction of cubes and potential.


No, the game was destroyed long before then, first by hackers, and then by big bang. And then even more by hackers, then by cubes and potential, and then finally by more hackers.
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MortalMelancholy said:
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Nah, Nexon destroyed the shit out of MS with the introduction of cubes and potential.


No, the game was destroyed long before then, first by hackers, and then by big bang. And then even more by hackers, then by cubes and potential, and then finally by more hackers.


There were definitely more hackers than pretty much any other MMORPG of its time back then, such as the DC hackers taking control of Ch 1 first two rows of FM and dupes, but the game was still going strong and not nearly as p2w/destroyed until Nexon released cubes and potential.

As a matter of fact, dupes actually helped plebs get shit like near perfect scrolled weapons (50% pink atk scrolls dupe) and pink adventurer capes (chaos scrolls dupe) way easier when without those, you probably would have had to pay at least 20x the amount for it.

Game was still playable without spending a ridiculous amount of Cash until cubes/potential came out. You couldn't even progress through the fucking game without NX Cash to use cubes and get re-roll potential.

The only time when hackers literally made the game unplayable for a server was when ECKO hacked a GM (with the help of the GM leaking some of his info) and started banning the living shit out of everyone in Scania.
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May 22, 2017 5:57 PM

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Battlechili1 said:
AntwanMantilla said:
>inb4 Undertale and FNAF cause clearly you need to see what the community is like to actually enjoy the game instead of staying away or ignoring them like a normal person.

Oh wait..... sighs
Don't get me wrong, I still played and enjoyed both Undertale and FNAF (though Undertale is miles ahead of FNAF in quality). But the community that surrounded the game was annoying. There was so much shit flinging and so much really awful content put out that was almost impossible to ignore, and that soured the overall enjoyment of content surrounding the game. The game itself was fantastic of course, and it still holds a strong place in my heart. I just wish it had a much calmer life.
Other than the Sans memes, the Undertale fan base never really annoyed me enough to hamper my enjoyment of the game. Only thing that bothered me were the people going into it after all that positive reception and expecting the greatest game of all time. It was just a creative little game that had a lot of love put into it.
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Please elaborate. I think the speedrun community made gaming better because they make it a point to recycle value in games by racing others to the finish. Speedrunners actually have a lot more skill than people seem to give them credit for, too.
Don't get me wrong, I like speedrunning as a concept, but from what I've seen in the community it's all just highschool drama among edgy neckbeards, rude people, lowlife junkies, never short of cringefests, shameless cashgrabbers exploiting the scene claiming it's for a good cause. I might be biased but the whole thing has definitely left a bad taste for me. There are a select few really cool people though.
That's just the part of the community you see on cringe compilations and that sort of thing, and sadly a very visible part of the community. But there are very few of those.
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Most Nintendo games. Every time a new Nintendo direct comes out, it's like half the people I know go ape shit just because they added a game to the virtual console. I've never seen so many people go crazy at the slightest things. They also tend to over hype everything, even to the point where I don't even want to play the game that's coming out anymore. Not to mention if you try to criticize one of their games, they loose it! Smash especially, I had someone go on a 30 minute rant just because I play as Marth! And don't even get me started on the Melee fans. Honestly, the games from Nintendo are great! Not all fans are like this, but the majority I know are.
May 25, 2017 3:39 PM
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LoL and Dota 2.

I still enjoy playing LoL, I just ignore/make fun of any trolls/toxicity while playing. Never played Dota, but I've heard a buddy of mine play while in Discord and he gets toxic real quick and real bad.
May 26, 2017 12:52 PM
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Never played FNAF or undertale but i have seen plenty of cringe related shit involving it. TBH most of those indie style games like Slender and Amnesia etc are also pretty bad.
The one closest to me is World of Warcraft, the community is so demanding and entitled, people expecting LFR content to be equal to normal+ difficulty when it's difficult to kill yourself some fights. Also you have the people that complain something is too time demanding like the new invasions, people crying backs they have a kid or job they cant play, what the fuck you playing a mmo for then if you have no time, fuck you, fuck your stupid kid and guess what most people playing have a job and can still find time to do activities.
I usually use the elitist rule of if its popular its probably going to be shit, I tend to find game that are great but the players and surrounding community ruin it and make me embarrassed to continue playing if I was mistook as one of those people.
May 26, 2017 1:19 PM

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Bioware. Never seen a community that tried so hard to make me feel guilty for liking a game. Three times.

(ME3, DA2, DAI)

And sweet god the waifu fights... so. many. waifu fights.

There's a lady who's sure
All that glitters is gold
And she's buying a stairway to heaven
When she gets there she knows
If the stores are all closed
With a word she can get what she came for
Oh oh oh oh and she's buying a stairway to heaven


May 26, 2017 6:03 PM

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GTA V I can't see why people think it is super amazing. GTA IV just was more interesting. GTA V had a meh cast and the story was dull. Even the missions felt weak. I won't say it it is a bad game but the community acts like it is magical. I will admit I was hyped for the online which turned out to be boring after the first week.

I guess Sonic is another one.
May 27, 2017 5:41 AM

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Pokemon: It's not ruined to me but the genwunners are a problem; and they are the majority. Pokemon GO and Alolan forms (for Kanto Pokemons only) in SM just solidified the fact that Gamefreak wants to milk these fans dry by using nostalgia which is greatly impacting the quality of the games. BW was a breath of fresh air but majority of the genwunners dislike it because it doesn't bring back any oldies (and obligatory comment on Garbordor and Vanilluxe designs because obviously they don't match with the complex designs of Muk and Voltrob). I believe the backlash turned Gamefreak into cucks. Most infamous genwunner (and a retard I might add) would be Versify.

COD: The game franchise has turned to shit and so has the fanbase. You can't find a single video on Youtube regarding these games without something like "394 degree NO SCOPE!!","trolling n00bz online","HOW TO GET INFINITE HEADSHOTS", etc in the title. Battlefield is also not that good but this is utter garbage.

GTA Online: Boy these folks must have migrated from COD or something because of how toxic they behave in missions and freeroam. PC, especially, has hackers to deal with. I may get some lols here and there but they become obnoxious pretty fast. The youtube community of this game is also cancerous. Please stop milking a dead cow Cockstars and get on with the next title.

Majority of JRPG: They are mostly edgy kids who think there is no charm in playing popular RPGs than playing niche JRPGs (for the western audience). Besides, most JRPGs these days are waifu-bait with a predictable setting and gameplay. There are exceptions obviously but as a whole, the community is pathetic. They are still better than the anime community, however.

LoL and DOTA: I haven't touched these shits because of how controversial and toxic their communities are.
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Path of Exile
Everyone is convinced the game is super hard and if you criticize any design oversight, no matter how legitimate, a thousand fangirls all sporting miraculous neckbeards will jump down your throat to protect "muh difficulties" as if a UI or netcode problem somehow adds to their life-sustaining PoE experience.

Pokémon
Huge cheater faction (about 3% - 4% of the community, which to put into scale perspective, is the same percentage as there are homosexuals in human society) in the community that have the audacity to be vocal about their cheating as if they're somehow entitled to it. (And also, the collective noise they make exists only to make themselves feel better as a sort of "you can't ban this many of us" collective fetal position)
Whole Reddit subs are devoted to distributing hack-generated Dittos for breeding to people who just want to cheat "a little" rather than use the actual hack themselves as if that somehow is better. The lowest form of subhumans, all armed with a whole liturgy of excuses you will hear 600,000 times over when you confront their misconduct - you don't have enough palms or enough faces for it, save your breath.
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Five Nights at Freddy's: I have lost most interest in the franchise when its popularity grew over, and I mean to the extent of doing pretty cringey as hell roleplays to the point where it become furry porn. I'm not even kidding it got to the degree where even by roleplaying standards, it was actually pretty abysmal.

I heard from few others that there's also Undertale as an example, that its pretty underrated but the fanbase is rather shit as fuck. I may be wrong.
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I totally stopped playing online games because of gamers, so... the whole gaming community? It's filled with butthurt brats who use the anonimity Internet provides to vent their frustration on strangers. Most online gamers are either tryhards, or just here to piss off people. Don't wanna spend time with their kind.
May 27, 2017 5:14 PM

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my cousin got no mans sky and it was alright for some weird retro space exploring time waster but we know how that ended lol
Jun 2, 2017 5:52 PM

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Ratohnhaketon said:
@Dwlr - Eh, well that's why I went 12-3 with chainsaw on average...was just saying I've never seen so much rage over being bested by a seemingly subpar tactic on a game before.

And one could go 50-0 easily against bots that doesn't make them good it means the bots are terrible. Doing well against terrible opponents doesn't make the individual that does well magically better nor does it make the tactic used viable against any sort of competent player. You were just playing scrubs and scrubs like to bark about how good they are and then blame something else for their failure like how any time they lose the match is ALWAYS lagging, but if the match actually lags and you lose they claim it's just an excuse. Happens all the time in Brawl.

And to those saying the community ruined Call of Duty, Call of Duty still ruined itself not the community, the game by nature is campy garbage playing to non-gamers who want to feel like they're gamers usually those who think video games are for the "uncool" a.k.a the "jocks" who mock the "nerds" for playing games trying to play games and the game enabling them to do so since the game auto-aims for you more or less and it's a 3d hide and go seek where everybody is hiding and nobody is seeking since you can't really do anything if you walk around save die due to how the game is set up. All that is setup before you get the squekers and trolls that every game gets, it's like a warm damp environment for the cockroaches of the Earth you can't blame the cockroaches for the problem when somebody else lets the environment exist, and that somebody is anybody buying the garbage game.
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You'll all laugh at this one, but Mario Kart.

I laugh at this one because its true and that's part of the reason why I love it.
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Bioware. Never seen a community that tried so hard to make me feel guilty for liking a game. Three times.

(ME3, DA2, DAI)

And sweet god the waifu fights... so. many. waifu fights.


I think I was part of the community that tried to make people feel guilty for liking Dragon Age 2...
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Path of Exile
Everyone is convinced the game is super hard and if you criticize any design oversight, no matter how legitimate, a thousand fangirls all sporting miraculous neckbeards will jump down your throat to protect "muh difficulties" as if a UI or netcode problem somehow adds to their life-sustaining PoE experience.
You can literally copypasta this and replace Path of Exile with Monster Hunter or any of the Souls games... I'm not defending POE though.
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Most of COD communities kinda kill it for me tbh...
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L0bsterman said:
Cosmic-Whorer said:
Bioware. Never seen a community that tried so hard to make me feel guilty for liking a game. Three times.

(ME3, DA2, DAI)

And sweet god the waifu fights... so. many. waifu fights.


I think I was part of the community that tried to make people feel guilty for liking Dragon Age 2...


Fuck you. Let me enjoy kirkwall and bang that little scrawny elf chick in peace :P

There's a lady who's sure
All that glitters is gold
And she's buying a stairway to heaven
When she gets there she knows
If the stores are all closed
With a word she can get what she came for
Oh oh oh oh and she's buying a stairway to heaven


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@Dwlr - Who knows. I hope you're not jealous.
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The Touhou community is so goddamn horrible that it makes me feel ashamed of being part of it.
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Personally, I'd have to say CoD and WoW. I avoid those games now.
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The competitive Pokemon community's attitude towards hacking is a bit of a turn off, I'll admit. I've been working on a video about the topic for my channel, but given how... passionate people can be about it, I've been hesitant about pursuing it.

Suffice to say, it's cheating, I get why people do it, but it's still cheating. I don't mind playing against cheaters, but that people can be so bothered about having to acknowledge that they're cheating when they're only able to play in the first place by cheating is... something to watch, for sure.
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League of Legends. People take the game way too seriously and they're toxic and can turn the game into absolute shit. I still enjoy the actual game, I just ignore the shit that goes in chat and might disable it if this shit keeps on going.

“That which does not kill us makes us stronger.” - Friedrich Nietzsche

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Ratohnhaketon said:
@Dwlr - Who knows. I hope you're not jealous.

Jealous of what exactly? How you're complaining about an immature community and then throw the jealousy card to self-validate yourself showing that you're clearly no more mature than the community you're complaining about and more than likely brought most of the comments you supposedly gotten on yourself with your own lack of maturity? Jealous that assuming those figures aren't just you trying to sound "legendary online" that you're playing with complete and total scrubs that let you get away with chainsaw spamming when it's a useless tactic? Either way there is absolutely nothing about your delusions of adequacy to be jealous of, at best you're playing total dregs that walk into it, but more likely than not you just made up a figure you thought sounded good and then when you got called on it you're trying to deflect it.
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The Touhou community is so goddamn horrible that it makes me feel ashamed of being part of it.


Could you recommend any forums? I'm still waiting to join any forums, since I first wanted to play & 1cc all games.

From the few things I saw it seems like the community has many memers (which I normally don't like) and inside jokes. I prefer places where people are more serious when it's about discussion and not everything is a spam thread (fun should be allowed of course).

And any things to watch out for? Does the community have many elitists? For example like ''if you can't 1cc on lunatic you're a fucking loser'', does that happen often?
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Ratohnhaketon said:
@Dwlr - Who knows. I hope you're not jealous.


this is disappointing
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Lord_Sithis said:
The Touhou community is so goddamn horrible that it makes me feel ashamed of being part of it.


Could you recommend any forums? I'm still waiting to join any forums, since I first wanted to play & 1cc all games.

From the few things I saw it seems like the community has many memers (which I normally don't like) and inside jokes. I prefer places where people are more serious when it's about discussion and not everything is a spam thread (fun should be allowed of course).

And any things to watch out for? Does the community have many elitists? For example like ''if you can't 1cc on lunatic you're a fucking loser'', does that happen often?
The biggest forum is Maidens of the Kaleidoscope. There's also Eientei, which is much smaller, but there's no drama or anything like that. It also hosts the competition called DRC (Dodging Rain Competition). Most of the activity in that one takes place on the Discord server.

Indeed, it has many memers and I also dislike that. The Eientei Discord server is mostly serious discussion, but there are channels for other games and memes and whatever, if that's what you prefer.

The part of the community I was referring to are the memers that spam every single Touhou video with "RAN RAN RUUUUU!!!" and other stupidity. The part of the community that actually plays the games (the abysmal minority sadly) is mostly super nice. They'll actively give you advice and try to help you in every way possible. There are also elitists of course, but those are everywhere. Shmups are games of skill, and you improve your skills through practice. Everyone was shit at Touhou at some point, the ones who are now good at it are the ones who didn't give up and kept practicing. The community understands this, so they'll encourage you instead of dishearten you.

So the part of the community that actually plays the games are mostly nice. The rest... the rest are just Undertale and CAVE haters who scream in every video and spam memes everywhere.
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Lord_Sithis said:
Azurblau said:


Could you recommend any forums? I'm still waiting to join any forums, since I first wanted to play & 1cc all games.

From the few things I saw it seems like the community has many memers (which I normally don't like) and inside jokes. I prefer places where people are more serious when it's about discussion and not everything is a spam thread (fun should be allowed of course).

And any things to watch out for? Does the community have many elitists? For example like ''if you can't 1cc on lunatic you're a fucking loser'', does that happen often?
The biggest forum is Maidens of the Kaleidoscope. There's also Eientei, which is much smaller, but there's no drama or anything like that. It also hosts the competition called DRC (Dodging Rain Competition). Most of the activity in that one takes place on the Discord server.

Indeed, it has many memers and I also dislike that. The Eientei Discord server is mostly serious discussion, but there are channels for other games and memes and whatever, if that's what you prefer.

The part of the community I was referring to are the memers that spam every single Touhou video with "RAN RAN RUUUUU!!!" and other stupidity. The part of the community that actually plays the games (the abysmal minority sadly) is mostly super nice. They'll actively give you advice and try to help you in every way possible. There are also elitists of course, but those are everywhere. Shmups are games of skill, and you improve your skills through practice. Everyone was shit at Touhou at some point, the ones who are now good at it are the ones who didn't give up and kept practicing. The community understands this, so they'll encourage you instead of dishearten you.

So the part of the community that actually plays the games are mostly nice. The rest... the rest are just Undertale and CAVE haters who scream in every video and spam memes everywhere.


Thanks for the recommendations!

Well, the one part of the community you described sounds nice, so I'll look forward to visiting one of the forums. I love the games (more about gameplay & atmosphere, I don't really understand the characters or lore yet) and also want to discuss them, since every main game feels different despite having the same concept.

I suspected this with the memes, only know of the 9 joke, it appears that a lot of jokes come from the comedy & personalities from the characters. And even though I've been playing for some time now, it's hard to memorize so many character names & quirks, since I've been focusing on the game until now. At some time I would also like to read the doujinshi & manga, it seems like there is a lot of material to discover.
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Azurblau said:
Lord_Sithis said:
The biggest forum is Maidens of the Kaleidoscope. There's also Eientei, which is much smaller, but there's no drama or anything like that. It also hosts the competition called DRC (Dodging Rain Competition). Most of the activity in that one takes place on the Discord server.

Indeed, it has many memers and I also dislike that. The Eientei Discord server is mostly serious discussion, but there are channels for other games and memes and whatever, if that's what you prefer.

The part of the community I was referring to are the memers that spam every single Touhou video with "RAN RAN RUUUUU!!!" and other stupidity. The part of the community that actually plays the games (the abysmal minority sadly) is mostly super nice. They'll actively give you advice and try to help you in every way possible. There are also elitists of course, but those are everywhere. Shmups are games of skill, and you improve your skills through practice. Everyone was shit at Touhou at some point, the ones who are now good at it are the ones who didn't give up and kept practicing. The community understands this, so they'll encourage you instead of dishearten you.

So the part of the community that actually plays the games are mostly nice. The rest... the rest are just Undertale and CAVE haters who scream in every video and spam memes everywhere.


Thanks for the recommendations!

Well, the one part of the community you described sounds nice, so I'll look forward to visiting one of the forums. I love the games (more about gameplay & atmosphere, I don't really understand the characters or lore yet) and also want to discuss them, since every main game feels different despite having the same concept.

I suspected this with the memes, only know of the 9 joke, it appears that a lot of jokes come from the comedy & personalities from the characters. And even though I've been playing for some time now, it's hard to memorize so many character names & quirks, since I've been focusing on the game until now. At some time I would also like to read the doujinshi & manga, it seems like there is a lot of material to discover.
I mostly play the games, since I don't really care about the characters or the lore or anything like that. There's a lot of discussion about the games in the server, and you can just ask someone if you're having trouble with something specific. I'll see you there :)
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Ratohnhaketon said:
@Dwlr - Who knows. I hope you're not jealous.

Jealous of what exactly? How you're complaining about an immature community and then throw the jealousy card to self-validate yourself showing that you're clearly no more mature than the community you're complaining about and more than likely brought most of the comments you supposedly gotten on yourself with your own lack of maturity? Jealous that assuming those figures aren't just you trying to sound "legendary online" that you're playing with complete and total scrubs that let you get away with chainsaw spamming when it's a useless tactic? Either way there is absolutely nothing about your delusions of adequacy to be jealous of, at best you're playing total dregs that walk into it, but more likely than not you just made up a figure you thought sounded good and then when you got called on it you're trying to deflect it.
I was poking light fun, relax. I don't even know why you're trying so hard to tell me my successful methods don't work. It's pretty reminiscent to all those dopey sore losers who said the same thing before my chain gang and I passed them around.

Chainsawing is surprisingly effective once you know how to do it. Just because you suck with it doesn't mean everyone else does.

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Ratohnhaketon said:
@Dwlr - Who knows. I hope you're not jealous.


this is disappointing
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Ratohnhaketon said:
I was poking light fun, relax. I don't even know why you're trying so hard to tell me my successful methods don't work. It's pretty reminiscent to all those dopey sore losers who said the same thing before my chain gang and I passed them around.

Chainsawing is surprisingly effective once you know how to do it. Just because you suck with it doesn't mean everyone else does.

They're only successful because you're playing worthless scrubs, but like I said the far more likely scenario is you were trying to be "legendary online" and somebody called you on it so now you're just floundering to defend your own delusions of adequacy.

No it's not, not unless you're playing people that don't know how to do anything and then anything is effective or you're one of the people intentionally causing lag and sponging bullets because of it, but even if you're cheating a Gnasher is more effective. Clearly just trolling or you really are THAT delusional either way clearly not competent nor do you have a leg to stand on.
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Does an entire franchise count? Because the Resident Evil/Biohazard community is one of the most hateful and ignorant lot I've ever had to deal with since the fourth installment.
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Dwlr said:
Ratohnhaketon said:
I was poking light fun, relax. I don't even know why you're trying so hard to tell me my successful methods don't work. It's pretty reminiscent to all those dopey sore losers who said the same thing before my chain gang and I passed them around.

Chainsawing is surprisingly effective once you know how to do it. Just because you suck with it doesn't mean everyone else does.

They're only successful because you're playing worthless scrubs, but like I said the far more likely scenario is you were trying to be "legendary online" and somebody called you on it so now you're just floundering to defend your own delusions of adequacy.

No it's not, not unless you're playing people that don't know how to do anything and then anything is effective or you're one of the people intentionally causing lag and sponging bullets because of it, but even if you're cheating a Gnasher is more effective. Clearly just trolling or you really are THAT delusional either way clearly not competent nor do you have a leg to stand on.
I've played with every weapon and know how to trick people into close combat to be chainsawed. I don't just run at them and rev blindly (sometimes I did, just for fun). Your talk of lag is boring, that's basically the default excuse when people can't win. You're the kind who thinks anyone who can fire off a semi-auto rifle faster than you on Call of Duty uses an auto-shooter.

I'm not actually claiming to be that good.
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The Max Payne community. I might have liked the original a little more if I didn't have to hear the fans' constant bullshit about the third game. (Probably not, though. That first game just seemed mediocre when I finished it early last year.) None of them have great stories, but I like the storytelling in 2 and 3. They all have the same corny metaphors. They keep complaining to me about Rockstar dropping the comic book cutscenes, like I ever gave a shit. I did have a problem with the number of cutscenes, but not nearly as much as these people. The dream sequences from the original they keep complaining about being removed would have been okay without the awful platforming on narrow bloodtrails.

The weakest complaint I hear is about the cover system. It's almost completely optional. I can play through the game on the highest difficulty only using cover like five times. In fact, it's easier if you don't use cover. You can run through levels like in any of the previous games.
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Two from my most recent memory:

Fistful of Frags: Around a year or so ago the developer of the game decided hammer in a "NO FUN ALLOWED" sign in the games' lawn by heavily "Rebalancing" all the fun weapons in the game along with removing the ability to spam voice commands to prevent people from spaming "ANDALEEEEEEEEEE" and "Pass the whiskey" every 2 seconds. He and his admins also went on a rampage banning all "cheaters" that dominated them in the oficial servers. What did the community do? They sucked his cock, HARD. Everyone rushed to defend his actions and the general attitude of the comunity along with the incompetency of the admins to ban any actual cheaters has caused the population of the game to plummet to about half of what it used to be.

Team Fortress 2: Honestly although the game is still very much alive the comunity has officially killed the game for me after 1,000 hours. After a certain update when matchmaking dropped the comunity started to grow pedantic and often insulted if not outright harrassed anyone that dared to say the update was a fucking pile of garbage. I'm tired of Valve apologists in the game, I'm tired of the circlejerks within the comunity content creators and I'm tired of the fucking sheep that take the words of youtubers as gosspel and pretend everything is okay with the game, and most importantly I'm tired of being told to go play in comunity servers (Which suck by the way) because I think the new format is wank. I moved to Paladins, good ridance.

And ummm I'm seeing a lot of people piking on the Pokemon community, I swear the Pokemon comunity wasn't always this toxic. A few years back (More like around a decade ago) the comunity was genuinely one of the most awesome comunities online; active forums everywhere collaborating with one another to create international comunity events, gatherings and conventions happening all around the planet constantly plus tournaments with cash prices taking place online with zero cheaters involved, there was a site for just about every language imaginable and the people on those sites were generally friendly and knowladgeble of how the game worked and at this point in time YouTube wasn't a big deal yet so if you wanted to know how to capture mew in pokemon Red or where to capture a Feebas in Pokemon Emerald you HAD to be in one of those comunities. The most toxic site that I can think of was AGNPH and that's a PORN site.

Then Nintendo happened, and it aaaaaaalll went to shit. One site after another went down under very heavy legal threats and to this day only a few of the original sites survive and out of those that survived some barely update if at all (Pokemon X, Serebii, AGNPH and a couple of ROMhack sites are all that I can think of that are still alive from those days).

Then Pokemon Go and the community ressurfaced once again and grew too big for Nintendo to control but this time it would seem as if there's a lot of in-fighting constantly happening over petty bullshit, which is somewhat to be expected as there are a lot of new people in the comunity.

I like to call this "The Sims Effect" as pretty much the same thing happened when EA killed the whole comunity for the sims back in the day; comunity was awesome, EA started filing out lawsuits and threats, comunity died out and when the comunity returned all the veterans were bitter and didn't give a shit anymore so they picked on the new guys and caused a lot of in-fighting over petty bullshit.
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Controversial opinion, but Forza's online community, while not trash-tier like Undertale, FNAF, or Sonic, deserves a mention.

I'd attribute this to the most recent few games (Horizion 2, Motorsport 6, and Horizion 3) being aimed more at a casual/arcade market with the entire 'crazy jumps/overpowering easily known cars' and associating themselves with the Fast and Furious franchise (and more recently, Hot Wheels). By casual/arcade market, I'm referring to people who are more interested in short bursts of playtime, and get more kicks out of crashing and lots of stuff going on at once more then racing itself. And that in itself is fine, I too get my moments that I just want to fuck around in Burnout, Crazy Taxi, or even drive the wrong way in NASCAR 2005 CftC.

The problem with Forza is that there is a significant portion of people who try to race with some degree of respect to others and some level of realism, and when you have people running around looking just for quick kicks. In a typical 16-24 person lobby, there's almost always 1-3 people who are in it just for trolling or crashing, which ruins the game for everyone except the two or three people who start ahead of the first-corner chaos. This insanity is lessened in Horizion, the more open nature of the tracks and smaller fields alleviate this pain, but for anyone looking for a decent Sim-cade (simulation and arcade fusion) racer, it can kill one's interest in racing with others in any serious context.

Add to this the element of people who insist on racing in ghost-mode so as to avoid any contact whatsoever (Silly, because contact is a significant element in nearly every motorsport) just to keep their cars looking shiny and not worry about being passed 'aggresively' or dealing with trolls. Or those that are so hyper-loyal to certain makes/manufactures that the concept of someone doing a mere engine/drivetrain swap to a 1969 Dodge Daytona is akin to a personal offense, it gets tiring fast. Seriously, put a V12 in any 1960/1970's American Muscle car, go online with it, and see what happens.
Lastly, the entire element of people who treat anyone who races with X class, or even high P/S2 class cars as if they are shit, with the elitist-like mentality that people who drive powerful cars can't actually drive any 'normal' car. Despite the fact that X and High P/S2 cars are typically the hardest to drive and are aimed more toward fans of motorsports (LMP/Endurance, F1, Indycar) then the cars of the lower levels aimed for completely different style and types of racing (Street racing, Touring cars, Drag Racing and Rallying), these fans of lower-level classes still refuse to even interact with fans of higher class vehicles, insisting that THEY are the ones with actual skill and talent and not acknowledging the different degrees of talents that the game embraces.

I've become (somewhat) lucky, there are a handful of Europeans and Americans I can run with in small groups of 2-4, but it's a shame that such a nice Sim-cade racer is being devalued by a fractured fanbase.
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mortalitas said:
Does an entire franchise count? Because the Resident Evil/Biohazard community is one of the most hateful and ignorant lot I've ever had to deal with since the fourth installment.


Oh god, how could I ever forget that!? The Pre-4 rabid fans who act like tank controls are the CART of video game controls (Both died off for relevant reasons, neither was killed by a conspiracy), the 4-6 action fans who have no care for the lore and insist that Fixed Camera angles are the worst thing in gaming, and now this new brand of Outlast fans who are just going from one First-person horror to another who've latched onto 7 like it's the holy grail! That's not even touching the people who bitch about the in-game story/lore, from those who preferred a comedy of RE1, to those who want a action thriller like 3, 4, and 5, to those who wanted a drama like 2, CV, and REmake...FUCK!

Fuck, it's almost impossible to find anyone who likes more then four games in the franchise!
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InsaneLeader13 said:
mortalitas said:
Does an entire franchise count? Because the Resident Evil/Biohazard community is one of the most hateful and ignorant lot I've ever had to deal with since the fourth installment.


Oh god, how could I ever forget that!? The Pre-4 rabid fans who act like tank controls are the CART of video game controls (Both died off for relevant reasons, neither was killed by a conspiracy), the 4-6 action fans who have no care for the lore and insist that Fixed Camera angles are the worst thing in gaming, and now this new brand of Outlast fans who are just going from one First-person horror to another who've latched onto 7 like it's the holy grail! That's not even touching the people who bitch about the in-game story/lore, from those who preferred a comedy of RE1, to those who want a action thriller like 3, 4, and 5, to those who wanted a drama like 2, CV, and REmake...FUCK!

Fuck, it's almost impossible to find anyone who likes more then four games in the franchise!


Which is ironic considering the best selling game to date is still Resident Evil 5, despite the seventh installment, and which uses said 'shitty' tank controls. I can't argue too much about the story, though, at least not anymore. Capcom has no idea what they're doing with the story anymore, and really haven't since Mikami left. Laughably, they're going back to third person for eight, since they realized it wasn't a good idea for first person. Not that anyone really wanted it anyway. But I feel you on this. I'm a fan of the older games, but only really love three overall: REmake, Code: Veronica, and Revelations.
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Overwatch can be pretty savage but most people tend to be nice, some ruin team cohesion by shouting at everyone

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mortalitas said:
InsaneLeader13 said:


Oh god, how could I ever forget that!? The Pre-4 rabid fans who act like tank controls are the CART of video game controls (Both died off for relevant reasons, neither was killed by a conspiracy), the 4-6 action fans who have no care for the lore and insist that Fixed Camera angles are the worst thing in gaming, and now this new brand of Outlast fans who are just going from one First-person horror to another who've latched onto 7 like it's the holy grail! That's not even touching the people who bitch about the in-game story/lore, from those who preferred a comedy of RE1, to those who want a action thriller like 3, 4, and 5, to those who wanted a drama like 2, CV, and REmake...FUCK!

Fuck, it's almost impossible to find anyone who likes more then four games in the franchise!


Which is ironic considering the best selling game to date is still Resident Evil 5, despite the seventh installment, and which uses said 'shitty' tank controls. I can't argue too much about the story, though, at least not anymore. Capcom has no idea what they're doing with the story anymore, and really haven't since Mikami left. Laughably, they're going back to third person for eight, since they realized it wasn't a good idea for first person. Not that anyone really wanted it anyway. But I feel you on this. I'm a fan of the older games, but only really love three overall: REmake, Code: Veronica, and Revelations.


The thing with the story was that it was originally supposed to conclude with Resident Evil 5 and focus on Chris, Barry, Claire, and maybe Jill against Wesker, in a series send-off. Sadly, I'm at a restricted work computer so I can't currently share my source for that. The 'story' if it can even be called that, has sadly been reduced to a powerball lottery of 'choose what characters in this game'.

'Laughably, they're going back to third person for eight, since they realized it wasn't a good idea for first person.'
Never heard this anywhere, but it wouldn't surprise me.

RE2, Code Veronica, and REmake are a holy-trio for me, and while I do enjoy running through 3 and 4 from time to time, even I am pretty divided about the franchise. Looking back, it's almost ironic for me to complain about the fanbase when I'm sort of part of the problem.
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InsaneLeader13 said:
The thing with the story was that it was originally supposed to conclude with Resident Evil 5 and focus on Chris, Barry, Claire, and maybe Jill against Wesker, in a series send-off. Sadly, I'm at a restricted work computer so I can't currently share my source for that. The 'story' if it can even be called that, has sadly been reduced to a powerball lottery of 'choose what characters in this game'.

'Laughably, they're going back to third person for eight, since they realized it wasn't a good idea for first person.'
Never heard this anywhere, but it wouldn't surprise me.

RE2, Code Veronica, and REmake are a holy-trio for me, and while I do enjoy running through 3 and 4 from time to time, even I am pretty divided about the franchise. Looking back, it's almost ironic for me to complain about the fanbase when I'm sort of part of the problem.


Claire wasn't involved, but Barry was. At least as far as I've seen. There were a couple concepts that never made it, which is sad because Barry deserved to take out Wesker,too. The only thing I even remotely cared about in 5 was Valenfield. The story sucked, the music sucked, the atmosphere really blew... and then there's Wesker, whos character they totally butchered ( in slight part to D.C. Douglas' horrible voice acting ).

It's ironic for me, too. I talk so much shit about how bad it's gotten and yet..... it's one of those things I can't let go of because it was a part of my childhood, I guess.
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hands down league of legends community and the rest isn't even close
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