| I just searched up Busou Shinki, which is a 6.39 here on MAL, but a whopping 2.79 on AniDB. This got me curious about the score comparison of some other anime, and...wowzer. Gakkougurashi!: 7.70 on MAL, 5.92 on AniDB High School of the Dead: 7.43 on MAL, 5.89 on AniDB Watamote: 7.27 on MAL, 4.96 on AniDB Are MAL users braindead casuals, or are AniDB users the worst kind of elitist? |
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| I would have to go with brain dead casuals. It's public knowledge that large number of MAL users don't use the scale properly anyway. |
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| Note that AniDB has 2 ratings - Average and Weighted. The former is just the average (obviously >_>), but the latter has a more complex formula which i think also takes into account the voting users' average rating, so someone with a high average giving the anime a low score has a stronger vote, and vice-versa. Though the actual formula is a company secret, so this might be just speculation. The real ratings are (MAL/anidb average/anidbweighted) busou - 6.39 / 5.62 / 2.79 gakko - 7.70 / 6.94 / 5.92 hsotd - 7.43 / 7.35 / 5.89 wata - 7.27 / 6.73 / 4.96 Which are less dramatic, especially for HSOTD. It's also interesting how Gakkougurashi has a lower average but higher weighted. It could be that the userbase or formula are biased against less popular shows ?_? since HSOTD has 3x the votes of Watamote, and even more vs the others. But still, the obv answer is that anidb is the elitist site, you can see it in the interface which is too complex for the casual brain to wrap around. MAL also weights the ratings but in a different way that is only really noticeable on anime with very few ratings. |
romagiaMay 18, 2017 2:55 PM
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| They are a little harsher but since Anidb has an algorithm to normalize ratings onto a 1.0-10.0 scale with 5.0 being average people could on average rate things 7.8 or 4.2 and it wouldn't make a difference (MAL's average is 6.9). The median weighted score on Anidb is 4.74 while the average score is 6.06. 6.06 is significantly lower than 6.9, but this isn't the only reason why scores on there are lower. |
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| Mhh... I dunno but maybe AniDB uses different kind of scoring system. :/ |
| people here should stop using 7-10 scale if you think an anime is shit plz give it lower score than 5 ... |
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| I've lurked there and its userbase tends to be more critical as far as I can tell. |
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| anidb is kind of a small sample of more hardcore anime watcher so i would expect than be a little more critical compared MAL,like everybody uses this site no matter how much anime they watch it being so different really surprises me though |
| In the case of Watamote, it's plain shit taste. What I don't know is how they weigh this rating because the actual average is 6.73. |
| Wow people are actually using the scale like it's supposed to be? who knew? |
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tragedydesu said: people here should stop using 7-10 scale if you think an anime is shit plz give it lower score than 5 ... there's your answer right here... Sums it up pretty well imo |
| damn, the forums these days... |
Bygyas said: tragedydesu said: people here should stop using 7-10 scale if you think an anime is shit plz give it lower score than 5 ... there's your answer right here... Sums it up pretty well imo Yeah, people rate everything too high. "I liked it" becomes a 9 when it should be a 7, "it was ok" becomes a 7 when it should be a 5. I believe people want to like a lot of shows more than they actually did. After all, who wants to admit they just watched 24+ episodes of something they'd rate a 4. Maybe giving it a higher rating justifies the time they invested in it. MAL also attracts a lot more casual viewers because it's a practical way to keep track of what you're watching, you can just list and rate what you watch without ever interacting with the community, whereas from what I've seen AniDB is more about interaction which attracts more hardcore fans. |
| the fanbase there are older and smaller. so it make sense. they use the rating system like any sane movie/tv site would do, unlike here. 1-10, and not 6-10. |
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tragedydesu said: people here should stop using 7-10 scale if you think an anime is shit plz give it lower score than 5 ... What if you're easy to please and don't watch things you won't like? CatSoul said: Gakkougurashi!: 7.70 on MAL, 5.92 on AniDB High School of the Dead: 7.43 on MAL, 5.89 on AniDB Watamote: 7.27 on MAL, 4.96 on AniDB I agree with the AniDB scores for those. |
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| Giving a low score to WataMote is a sure sign of an underdeveloped mind. |
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| That site layout is terrible! Absolutely disgusting. to op question, yeah it seems like that is the hive mind for harsher scorers. Though snk is still 8+ on that site so that is a good thing I guess. The ranking overall looks pretty decent I will admit. |
keragammingMay 18, 2017 6:10 PM
| Compare this to Rotten Tomatoes, Mostly every anime had a higher rating Ratings could be impossible and either a fake since every audience itself won't get a lot of hypes OR get satisfied as they watch the show |
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| two opposite sides of the spectrum mal is the "plebs" and anidb is the "elitists" for the most part. that's the usual consensus. problem is, ratings are moronic to begin with. and it's funny if you'd confront the japs about stuff like that, most wouldn't give a crap, even though anime is their thing first and foremost (though you can argue japs have shit taste but as far as i know, they don't actively bash what they don't like like we do - well, that is, except the obsessive fans who go around 2chan and such.. ) anidb is mostly comprised of people who have very little appreciation for the medium, especially the modern era. they're kind of going extinct and you can even tell by the awful interface that site has. mal on the other hand is comprised by people who disregard and disconsider anything older than modern and often shit on quality things just because it's not muh animu. point is both communities are flawed as fuck. but i'd rather stay on mal because people tend to be nicer here, you can have conversations without muh superiority taking control, and the interface is more user-friendly (though it still needs improvement, oh oh oh ohhh) |
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| I would say it's both, definitely both. |
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| That's because people on AniDB think they are big shot critics reviewing a movie which will a lot of awards. Get real. Some of us here on MAL actually want to enjoy what we are watching. I don't even look at scores when I choose my anime. I don't mind people being harsh on anime or writing reviews but,giving Watamote a 4.96? That's just stupid. And there's no such thing as an elitist in an anime community. The people on AniDB takes things too seriously. |
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But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
DateYutaka said: Sjo said: two opposite sides of the spectrum mal is the "plebs" and anidb is the "elitists" for the most part. that's the usual consensus. problem is, ratings are moronic to begin with. and it's funny if you'd confront the japs about stuff like that, most wouldn't give a crap, even though anime is their thing first and foremost (though you can argue japs have shit taste but as far as i know, they don't actively bash what they don't like like we do - well, that is, except the obsessive fans who go around 2chan and such.. ) anidb is mostly comprised of people who have very little appreciation for the medium, especially the modern era. they're kind of going extinct and you can even tell by the awful interface that site has. mal on the other hand is comprised by people who disregard and disconsider anything older than modern and often shit on quality things just because it's not muh animu. point is both communities are flawed as fuck. but i'd rather stay on mal because people tend to be nicer here, you can have conversations without muh superiority taking control, and the interface is more user-friendly (though it still needs improvement, oh oh oh ohhh) im sorry based on rviews that iv read over there there the same amount of late night anime worrship as on mal i don't understand what you wanted to say. try expressing yourself differently |
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Sjo said: on both mal and anidb there are many good reviews for late night anime, which are not so big in japanDateYutaka said: im sorry based on rviews that iv read over there there the same amount of late night anime worrship as on mal i don't understand what you wanted to say. try expressing yourself differently by extension, most popular and high rated anime on both sites are late night anime this relates mostly to the first sentence of your post |
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| Could it be that more people are using mal than anidb |
on romagia said: on both mal and anidb there are many good reviews for late night anime, which are not so big in japan by extension, most popular and high rated anime on both sites are late night anime this relates mostly to the first sentence of your post ah, well it was a summary of the general perception of both sites as compared to one another. |
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| Being harsh and being unreasonable is two different things. MAL ratings are close to the upper one. An anime below the mid 7's here are considered bad or at least a gamble. Nearly of the ranked TV anime with weighted score is 7.0 or above. This is a really disproportionate scale. |
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| I use ratings to indicate my own personal enjoyment of an anime. Don't really get to critical about anything unless a show forces me to by being good enough to warrant such treatment. Anyone who thinks the way I rate anime is definitively the 'wrong way' is just a clown. I do shit for myself, not for you or this stupid community, so fuck off already! ;P |
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| Noragami has a 6.45 so it clearly shows that the people on that website don't have good taste in anime |
YabokuMay 19, 2017 1:38 PM
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Maneki-Mew said: I don't get people, who rate everything so harsh. I watch anime for fun and having a good time with it. So I have this excited prevailing mood when I start an new show. Of course, I'm not okay with everything and many other things can't catch me, but if they do, I'm ready to rate with a fairly high score. I guess, I'm too good-natured towards anime. ^^" Even if I have a dozen critic points, I still rate with 7 - 9 sometimes, because they didn't bother me enough. Yes, I'm aware of what's wrong with the things I love, but I don't care too much about it. If I liked it, I wanna throw many kudos at it. XD Don't wanna feel like a literary critic. I'm just very inspirable. (Uhm, I also love to study, because I get excited about the stuff. I was that weird kid, who LOVED school) And I want to love the show I watch, if it's possible for me. ^This. We're supposed to have fun afterall, aren't we? My ratings are there to remind myself of how much I enjoyed the anime i've watched. I mean, this is MyAnimeList, right? Omkar_Nagwade said: That's because people on AniDB think they are big shot critics reviewing a movie which will a lot of awards. Get real. Some of us here on MAL actually want to enjoy what we are watching. I don't even look at scores when I choose my anime. I don't mind people being harsh on anime or writing reviews but,giving Watamote a 4.96? That's just stupid. And there's no such thing as an elitist in an anime community. The people on AniDB takes things too seriously. And this^ specially bold part. I think most of us tend to call people who take things too seriously elitits, that's it. But honestly i don't even understand why would someone waste their time being harsh towards an anime they don't give a damn about. I wonder if they get any enjoyment from their watching while putting all their effort on playing the "big shot critics". So yeah, the point here is having fun, isn't it? |
| I think anidb is more obscure therefore generally speaking less newbies and more experienced watchers use that site. Most newbies use the ratings like we see in @Heldengeist's 'modern review scale'. The levels of retardation and popularity of this procedure are so high that I really stopped caring or trying to talk people out of this nonsense. So basically ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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| How is low scores on decent anime being "harsh"? I don't get it OP |
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jal90 said: In the case of Watamote, it's plain shit taste. I agree with you sir. Zelkiiro said: Giving a low score to WataMote is a sure sign of an underdeveloped mind. I agree with you sir. |
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| because MAL users are idiots who think average is 7/10 |
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| I would say because the amount of users on AniDB pale in comparison with the amount on MAL. Therefore... I think you should see where I'm going with this |
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| I simply cannot comprehend how often something so ridiculously simple is misunderstood. A.) Yes, 5/10 should be the line for mediocrity, not 7/10. Frankly, it baffles me but B.) Users are not obliged to finish a series. A lot of users may not have ratings 5 below simply because they dropped those they consider 5-below. Because unless that user is a f*cking masochist or have absolutely f*ck-all going in his/her life, he/she would prefer to watch a series worth at least a 7/10 in his/her scale. And if they drop a series, it is perfectly understandable and commendable that they do not rate it. Hence, skewed ratings favoring those who watched a show through and, more than likely, loved it. Ca-f*cking-piche? |
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| I dont use anidb but i dont gove a shit abt rating anyways, these mal ratings are for my own personal use..... despite my using the 1 to 10 scale as intended. plus the shows you mentioned are nt ones I care abt.... so ........ |
Maneki-Mew said: I must admit that I scored a few things with 3 or 4, but you can count them on one hand. I don't wanna waste my time with (too many) things I dislike. I'm okay with the advice "the scale goes from 1 to 10, not 6 or 7 to 10". But the scale doesn't go from 1 - 6 either. If I see so many low scores on this site (their design is outdated by the way and eye cancer x.x), I don't know why these people watch anime. Or at least genres they don't like. Or I just don't understand how they use scores... or they disagree with my opinion of using score. XD If their mean score is something like 4.56, it says that the majority of animes you have watched lies somewhere inbetween bad (4) and average (5)? How is this even possible? I don't go to the cinema either and dislike almost every movie, because you have to spend money on it and so you choose a movie you'd probably like. There are some disappointed movies for me sometimes (and I didn't choose many of them by myself, because I was with friends - I was too afraid to bitch about Pacific Rim afterwards, I hate mechas and a friend was too afraid to bitch about Assassin's Creed XD), but I was okay with most of them at least and liked the majority. You get to know "your" studios and your genres after all the years you're watching entertainment media. So, I know that I definitely watch every Dreamworks and Disney Pixar, Marvel and DC movie. I knew, I will definitely and absolutely love and adore Fantastic Beasts, if they didn't make huge, huge mistakes. At least I liked Blade Runner and the Divergent series a little bit, because I loved the Hunger Games and dystopias too. Maybe, it's because you don't pay for every anime. Most people don't and many others like me just buy their favorites or anime they really liked. Maybe that's why people (including myself) don't choose anime as careful as cinema movies, if they are bored at the moment. They click on the next best anime on their favorite anime-watching website. It's like flipping through TV channels. You will come across lots of trash / things you won't like. A lot of. You save a lot time, if you aren't flipping through TV channels and pick some series etc... more selective. I bet, I won't watch the half or like 50 anime of my PTW-list either. I just added them, because I could. It's just one click. XD Likewise, I don't watch a dozen of magical girl anime, typical shoujos with art style I don't like etc... either and rant about the whole genre later on, but I give the most Shounen and Fantasy a chance, because I happened to like many anime from that genre(s) (demographic however). Too long, don't read: People know their taste and choose what they probaby will like. That explains their high scores. And they drop things they don't like without rating them. I mean, I can't understand the mindset of: I didn't like the fifteen Shoujo / Shounen / Magical Girls / Slice Of Life / Fantasy / however anime before, let's watch another one. XD Yaboku said: Noragami has a 6.45 so it clearly shows that the people on that website don't have good taste in anime Yeah, right? :( Uhm! I admit that was entertaining to read. We share some thoughts~ That's pretty much it. I think i've babbled about it before a few times. Why the heck would you pick something to watch when you know you will NOT enjoy it? Seriously, what's the point on doing that? Here we get either that or the "i dropped this show @ep 1, 5min. I don't know anything about it, but i'll still trashtalk it because i can". Random note: You can scroll throught my list and you won't find a single sports or yaoi anime because those are the genres i completly dislike, so i don't watch them. |
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