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May 14, 2017 2:42 PM
#1
We thought we had grown wise, but really we had grown foolish. We became overconfident in technology, and this could have spelled our downfall. We forgot our heart, and the deep meanings therein. The year is 2017. This is the 21st century. Are we finally moving on to a wiser era? |
May 14, 2017 2:47 PM
#2
if we cannot find god then we create god like an omnibenevolent super artificial intelligence |
May 14, 2017 2:53 PM
#3
We still haven't made anime waifus real so no |
한 번만 살지만 제대로 하면 한 번이면 충분해요 |
May 14, 2017 2:57 PM
#4
>current year >world still trash >no real life waifus yet >yep it's time to give up, mass suicide time >you first But for real I thought from the Christian standpoint that God made us in his image and has "a larger mysterious plan" how could we possibly go wrong. would it not be his fault we've played God... Ofc there's the "we've strayed too far from gods light" type thought but I think we've gotten better and better especially in the 21st century with the spreading of knowledge through the Internet. |
イカロス --I K A R O S D E S U-- "Hai master" <3cruise Becoming the bell of my heart dont click here, baka -->> https://soundcloud.com/franciscan-guitar |
May 14, 2017 3:00 PM
#5
It's actually illegal in most countries to play god. We've actually held ourselves back a bit because of our morals. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing is not up to me. |
May 14, 2017 3:01 PM
#6
We've come so far and we still don't know what's the colour of a mirror. |
May 14, 2017 3:03 PM
#7
May 14, 2017 3:09 PM
#8
Hoppy said: j0x said: if we cannot find god then we create god like an omnibenevolent super artificial intelligence That would be like the Controller and Noah, potential civilization destroyers if something goes wrong with them. No one wants this. well thats why i added omnibenevolent there |
May 14, 2017 3:48 PM
#9
barely technology just started taking off in the early 2000s we are just getting started |
May 14, 2017 4:40 PM
#10
have you heard the Theory of the Bicameral Mind? it's an interesting hypothesis that in the ancient times, human's minds were fundamentally different. Where as now, we are aware of our own minds and consider the inner voice to be 'me,' in ancient times the inner voice would have actually been considered as god! This might have explained some of their behavior, kind of a 'hive mind' type of society (think Ancient Egypt). It's not always widely credited but interesting to think about, and suggests that though humans might frequently play God now, it hasn't always been the case. |
I CELEBRATE myself, And what I assume you shall assume, For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you. |
May 14, 2017 5:00 PM
#11
I think the biggest worry is running out of resources and destroying the planet to the point of being uninhabitable. Maybe technology will solve resource and pollution issues, but I'm not overly optimistic about that. Technology in general is posing multiple threats. For one, automation is already affecting jobs and it will continue to displace manual labor to the point where unemployment figures will keep climbing into unmanageable territory. We might also face the problem of self-replicating AI, which is a worry of many science fiction writers, as well as scientists in general. I'm not sure whether AI will overtake human intelligence, but it seems like a possibility and is among one of the areas where us humans playing God have bit off more than we could chew. We are also doing some questionable things with food and medicine which may come back and bite us in our ass. |
May 14, 2017 5:04 PM
#12
Barnald said: We've come so far and we still don't know what's the colour of a mirror. It's silver. If you get a high enough angle that light does not deflect on it, you'll yield its true color (plus the fact that the coating is made from silver or other derivatives) |
May 14, 2017 5:06 PM
#13
Saucy said: I think the biggest worry is running out of resources plenty of resources in space, fund NASA more please also fund 3D printing more so it can achieve molecular assembler/replicator levels |
May 14, 2017 5:32 PM
#14
we haven't grown overconfident in our technology, we've grown overconfident in our money so long as we have enough to make ourselves happy for a brief moment, then we feel content, ignoring the real problems or hindrances I could donate $10-20,000 to NASA if I wanted to and help in any way possible with helping advancing civilization, but I'd rather buy a new car |
May 14, 2017 5:35 PM
#15
Isn't our ultimate to replace your so called "god" at some point? Idk if technology is the right way, but it has certainly improved our lives for the past century. However, everything comes with a price, we will have to take responsibility for our actions at some point. |
May 14, 2017 5:42 PM
#16
If we take a loose interpretation of Christianity and assume that "God" is literally the "Father of Humanity", then us "playing god" would just mean that we are in our rebellious teenager phase, so what follows next is... I guess we'll either crash hard or we'll somehow become mature enough by ourselves I guess? |
May 14, 2017 6:05 PM
#17
j0x said: Saucy said: I think the biggest worry is running out of resources plenty of resources in space, fund NASA more please also fund 3D printing more so it can achieve molecular assembler/replicator levels We are nowhere near the capacity to explore space, let alone gather resources, yet we are already feeling the pressure of establishing sustainable energy and clean water. 3D printing is really not a solution to resource problems because it doesn't magically create stuff out of thin air. 3D printers still need epoxy, ABS plastic, metals, and so on. |
May 14, 2017 6:07 PM
#18
But we haven't even gotten properly to transhumanism. |
May 14, 2017 6:08 PM
#19
I wanted to post a waifu joke but I guess all I am going to say is. Stop being a stupid pseudo-intellectual hipster. |
May 14, 2017 6:10 PM
#20
Saucy said: j0x said: Saucy said: I think the biggest worry is running out of resources plenty of resources in space, fund NASA more please also fund 3D printing more so it can achieve molecular assembler/replicator levels We are nowhere near the capacity to explore space, let alone gather resources, yet we are already feeling the pressure of establishing sustainable energy and clean water. 3D printing is really not a solution to resource problems because it doesn't magically create stuff out of thin air. 3D printers still need epoxy, ABS plastic, metals, and so on. 3D printing is like the baby step to make a molecular assembler like the replicator In Star Trek a replicator is a machine capable of creating (and recycling) objects. Replicators were originally seen used to synthesize meals on demand, but in later series they took on many other uses. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replicator_(Star_Trek) |
May 14, 2017 6:13 PM
#21
NudeBear said: j0x said: Saucy said: I think the biggest worry is running out of resources plenty of resources in space, fund NASA more please also fund 3D printing more so it can achieve molecular assembler/replicator levels And what if these near-by space resources run out? What then, further expansion? We can't keep dodging the big elephant in the room forever, lack of a sustainable infrastructure is a real problem. if further expansion to deep space is harder then just control the overpopulation but i doubt it since technological singularity promises accelerated scientific breakthroughs and innovation/inventions if humanitys future AI overlords does not decide that humanity should die plus like the other poster said there is also transhumanism |
May 14, 2017 6:21 PM
#22
We still haven't invented toilet paper that doesn't rip when wiping, we are far from being gods.... |
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May 14, 2017 6:31 PM
#23
Elegade said: We still haven't invented toilet paper that doesn't rip when wiping, we are far from being gods.... What kind of razor sharp ass hair do you have man? Either that or way too soft paper lol |
イカロス --I K A R O S D E S U-- "Hai master" <3cruise Becoming the bell of my heart dont click here, baka -->> https://soundcloud.com/franciscan-guitar |
May 14, 2017 6:33 PM
#24
Grey-Zone said: If we take a loose interpretation of Christianity and assume that "God" is literally the "Father of Humanity", then us "playing god" would just mean that we are in our rebellious teenager phase, so what follows next is... I guess we'll either crash hard or we'll somehow become mature enough by ourselves I guess? lol that family logic, the parent which is god should not be a controlling parent to his children like humanity, let the children grow or fail by themselves, but no if god is real he is bringing too much evil or random shit for the sake of testing us until we become permanently broken or die |
May 14, 2017 6:35 PM
#25
Ikaros_42oh said: Elegade said: We still haven't invented toilet paper that doesn't rip when wiping, we are far from being gods.... What kind of razor sharp ass hair do you have man? Either that or way too soft paper lol I have a really sensitive asshole from reading mean comments on my tumblr blog, so I need really soft and delicate toilet paper. |
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May 14, 2017 6:44 PM
#26
Elegade said: Ikaros_42oh said: Elegade said: We still haven't invented toilet paper that doesn't rip when wiping, we are far from being gods.... What kind of razor sharp ass hair do you have man? Either that or way too soft paper lol I have a really sensitive asshole from reading mean comments on my tumblr blog, so I need really soft and delicate toilet paper. Oh my I'm so sorry to hear that... Have you considered applying some anti-trigger cream? |
イカロス --I K A R O S D E S U-- "Hai master" <3cruise Becoming the bell of my heart dont click here, baka -->> https://soundcloud.com/franciscan-guitar |
May 14, 2017 6:55 PM
#27
Ikaros_42oh said: Elegade said: Ikaros_42oh said: Elegade said: We still haven't invented toilet paper that doesn't rip when wiping, we are far from being gods.... What kind of razor sharp ass hair do you have man? Either that or way too soft paper lol I have a really sensitive asshole from reading mean comments on my tumblr blog, so I need really soft and delicate toilet paper. Oh my I'm so sorry to hear that... Have you considered applying some anti-trigger cream? I have along with a feminist butt plug I got at dashcon, but they don't work sadly. |
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May 14, 2017 7:00 PM
#28
Not so much playing god as it is being on the top of the food chain. Like, the only natural predator left for us is Earth, time and ourselves. It'll all work itself out. |
May 14, 2017 7:01 PM
#29
j0x said: plenty of resources in space, fund NASA more please also fund 3D printing more so it can achieve molecular assembler/replicator levels Actually we have gotten pretty good with the stuff that counts. https://3dprint.com/139537/3d-printed-guns/ I have a printer than can print Glocks. Yes, metal 3D printing technology is real, and yes it can be used to 3D print the parts for a fully functional firearm. There are several different metal 3D printing processes and technologies, but what they all have in common is price. A metal 3D printer will cost tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars, so using it to 3D print a gun isn’t going to be anywhere near affordable. In fact, a few years ago a company actually did use a metal 3D printer to make a gun, and Solid Concepts (now part of Stratasys Direct and no longer in the gun business) sold them for $11,000 a piece. |
May 14, 2017 7:02 PM
#30
we're still here so humans haven't played god enough |
"I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
May 14, 2017 7:04 PM
#31
JustaBrer said: Are we finally moving on to a wiser era? No. If anything, we are becoming more ignorant. Prosperity breeds entitlement, entitlement breeds obliteration. |
May 14, 2017 7:06 PM
#32
Soverign said: j0x said: plenty of resources in space, fund NASA more please also fund 3D printing more so it can achieve molecular assembler/replicator levels Actually we have gotten pretty good with the stuff that counts. https://3dprint.com/139537/3d-printed-guns/ I have a printer than can print Glocks. Yes, metal 3D printing technology is real, and yes it can be used to 3D print the parts for a fully functional firearm. There are several different metal 3D printing processes and technologies, but what they all have in common is price. A metal 3D printer will cost tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars, so using it to 3D print a gun isn’t going to be anywhere near affordable. In fact, a few years ago a company actually did use a metal 3D printer to make a gun, and Solid Concepts (now part of Stratasys Direct and no longer in the gun business) sold them for $11,000 a piece. lol you are definitely from USA you gun loving sonuvabitch |
May 14, 2017 7:09 PM
#33
j0x said: Soverign said: j0x said: plenty of resources in space, fund NASA more please also fund 3D printing more so it can achieve molecular assembler/replicator levels Actually we have gotten pretty good with the stuff that counts. https://3dprint.com/139537/3d-printed-guns/ I have a printer than can print Glocks. Yes, metal 3D printing technology is real, and yes it can be used to 3D print the parts for a fully functional firearm. There are several different metal 3D printing processes and technologies, but what they all have in common is price. A metal 3D printer will cost tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars, so using it to 3D print a gun isn’t going to be anywhere near affordable. In fact, a few years ago a company actually did use a metal 3D printer to make a gun, and Solid Concepts (now part of Stratasys Direct and no longer in the gun business) sold them for $11,000 a piece. lol you are definitely from USA you gun loving sonuvabitch Doesn't matter, still printed a gun. Besides you civilians are degenerates. When I make a drone, I am all like, "How can I kill people with this thing!" When you make a drone, you are all like "How can i spy on naked womenz with this thing!". Damn profligates. -_- |
May 14, 2017 7:27 PM
#34
j0x said: Grey-Zone said: If we take a loose interpretation of Christianity and assume that "God" is literally the "Father of Humanity", then us "playing god" would just mean that we are in our rebellious teenager phase, so what follows next is... I guess we'll either crash hard or we'll somehow become mature enough by ourselves I guess? lol that family logic, the parent which is god should not be a controlling parent to his children like humanity, let the children grow or fail by themselves, but no if god is real he is bringing too much evil or random shit for the sake of testing us until we become permanently broken or die Well it's a "loose" interpretation, as I said, that came to me when I read "humans play god" while in Christianity "God" is often refered to as a "father", i.e. essentially a human being, which made me make this example because it actually fits in an interesting way, as in the past "God" would often supposedly interfere with humanity directly, at first appearing more or less directly and even causing world-wide intereferences (flood from Noah's story), all this perhaps being the newborn phase. Then later "God" would stop appearing directly, instead using mediums (e.g. burning branch when speaking to Moses) and limiting direct intereferences to only be at national level at most (e.g. plagues of egypt), this would perhaps be the infancy phase, which would later conclude when the whole stuff with Jesus happened perhaps being some kind of "coming-of-age ceremony", by older standards, of course where you become an adult at somewhere between 12-15 years old. Now in the teenager phase (or perhaps rather even young adult) "God" left humanity alone to get it's own experiences without constant nagging by a parent. The interesting part is that is coincidents with 3 sacraments of the Catholic Church that people have mostly based on time/age, known as a set as the "Sacraments of initiation" and they are usually given, at least in modern times, the shortly after birth, the second at about 9 or 10 years old and the last one at about 14 years or later. That said I don't say that this is in any way, shape or form the truth, but it's a quite an interesting interpretation of "God's role as a father to humanity", even if it's just a coincidence or even if one doesn't believe in god in the first place. Of course if you look closely at it there are some weaknesses to such a train of thought, but it's an interesting thought nonetheless, even if it's just for entertainment's sake. |
May 14, 2017 7:32 PM
#35
Grey-Zone said: but it's an interesting thought nonetheless, even if it's just for entertainment's sake. ye i know i live in a christian country anyway and i have watch christian oriented anime and hollywood movies and i find them entertaining too |
May 14, 2017 7:41 PM
#36
Takuan_Soho said: JustaBrer said: Are we finally moving on to a wiser era? No. If anything, we are becoming more ignorant. Prosperity breeds entitlement, entitlement breeds obliteration. If say we're becoming more intelligent but are being misled into entitlement which I agree has gotten out of hand but how can you stop that really? |
イカロス --I K A R O S D E S U-- "Hai master" <3cruise Becoming the bell of my heart dont click here, baka -->> https://soundcloud.com/franciscan-guitar |
May 14, 2017 7:49 PM
#37
Ikaros_42oh said: Takuan_Soho said: JustaBrer said: Are we finally moving on to a wiser era? No. If anything, we are becoming more ignorant. Prosperity breeds entitlement, entitlement breeds obliteration. If say we're becoming more intelligent but are being misled into entitlement which I agree has gotten out of hand but how can you stop that really? yep its true that people are getting more entitled especially the poor but thats because the media is glorifying the lifestyle of rich and famous too anyway lol, so expect envious poor people, and the politicians are promising too much too |
May 14, 2017 8:10 PM
#38
More than how humans have played their own waifu? |
May 14, 2017 8:33 PM
#39
Thought this was going to be about Re:Creators but nah, just some normie. |
May 14, 2017 8:57 PM
#41
I think we'll be going too far when we get to cloning and shit... so far nah. I want my fucking transhumanist augmentations. |
"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." -Friedrich Nietzsche |
May 14, 2017 9:01 PM
#42
LoneWolf said: I want my fucking transhumanist augmentations. why go for surgical augmentations when you can just go nanomachines |
May 14, 2017 9:04 PM
#43
j0x said: LoneWolf said: I want my fucking transhumanist augmentations. why go for surgical augmentations when you can just go nanomachines Indeed, Nanomachines seem a lot more efficient. Augments still look badass tho and kind of like the idea of non-organic limbs. Like transforming my arm into a gun or shooting bullets out of my fingers lol. |
"The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself." -Friedrich Nietzsche |
May 14, 2017 9:07 PM
#44
but i am a god what do you mean jon ossoff is the salvation of mankind marie le pen was my first choice but i made her into trump like "o shit its the french trump" |
May 14, 2017 9:44 PM
#45
Ikaros_42oh said: If say we're becoming more intelligent but are being misled into entitlement which I agree has gotten out of hand but how can you stop that really? Not sure if one can stop it. Nietzsche did not think it could be stopped. I fear that all we can do is to let people experience the natural conclusion to their idealism. Sort of like letting women who want to marry ISIS fighters marry them, then banning them from returning. |
May 14, 2017 9:55 PM
#46
Takuan_Soho said: Ikaros_42oh said: If say we're becoming more intelligent but are being misled into entitlement which I agree has gotten out of hand but how can you stop that really? Not sure if one can stop it. Nietzsche did not think it could be stopped. I fear that all we can do is to let people experience the natural conclusion to their idealism. Sort of like letting women who want to marry ISIS fighters marry them, then banning them from returning. no joke this might be the third time ive seen you mention these girls marrying ISIS fighters recently is it a big problem where ur at or something lmao but yeah i guess we're entitled to see where our entitlement leads us |
イカロス --I K A R O S D E S U-- "Hai master" <3cruise Becoming the bell of my heart dont click here, baka -->> https://soundcloud.com/franciscan-guitar |
May 14, 2017 10:00 PM
#47
Any human who has confidence in humanity is an idiot. |
Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
May 15, 2017 2:06 AM
#48
Brb said: Barnald said: We've come so far and we still don't know what's the colour of a mirror. It's silver. If you get a high enough angle that light does not deflect on it, you'll yield its true color (plus the fact that the coating is made from silver or other derivatives) What if the mirror is a lie. What then |
May 15, 2017 2:07 AM
#49
MortalMelancholy said: Any human who has confidence in humanity is an idiot. 'it takes an idiot to do something cool' - flcl |
I CELEBRATE myself, And what I assume you shall assume, For every atom belonging to me as good belongs to you. |
May 15, 2017 2:17 AM
#50
Hoppy said: j0x said: if we cannot find god then we create god like an omnibenevolent super artificial intelligence That would be like the Controller and Noah, potential civilization destroyers if something goes wrong with them. No one wants this. kawaii96desu said: Isn't our ultimate to replace your so called "god" at some point? Idk if technology is the right way, but it has certainly improved our lives for the past century. However, everything comes with a price, we will have to take responsibility for our actions at some point. You two have misunderstood. No one or no body can absolutely replicate omnibenevolence, omnipotence or omniscience. These are infinite. |
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