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May 16, 2017 11:18 AM

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40 minutes and we have four 2 vote trains going on right now. We need to consolidate before we have people jumping votes at the last second.
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May 16, 2017 11:21 AM

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logic340 said:

@Shinichi-kun, @Oyasum_Rosie, @RE1031 how would you compare Crossbell's D1 here to Kitty Mafia D1? I am not really getting a similar vibes but I am not liking the lack of activity and catchup posts (which are reminiscent)?

I think he's being genuine when he says he's catching up, plus seeing as there are overlapping players, I don't think he'd do the same thing twice. Catching up posts are really easy to identify when it comes to scumplay.
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May 16, 2017 11:22 AM

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I've been inactive because I am on vacation.

I'll try to step it up Day 2, but I was interested as to the reasoning why people were townreading me because I don't think my play has been especially townie thus far.

Let me look at this votal.
 
May 16, 2017 11:23 AM

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
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Gonna dive into logic's town/scum list tomorrow if I get the time.

There are a couple things that make me raise my eyebrows but too tired to fully write them out right now.

If you don't have a good read on logic, then why aren't you taking the steps required to get a better read on him? (By asking him questions and seeing if his thought process is cogent)
What if I don't actually have any questions to ask though? Lol

Its better to keep my vote where its at an wait for information. If I go hunting for it, I might end up giving up more than I end up finding.
Sorry what?
If you're town you don't HAVE any information you could end up giving. Only scum can.

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May 16, 2017 11:24 AM

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4. If he reveals early (and he's mafia), there's less wriggle room to jump in the defense of a teammate close to being lynched.

Highlighting what I said earlier because I think that's what's happening now.

I revealed the information when zymf had 3 votes and maybe like 12 hours left. Abu who was inactive had 2 votes. It was not like zymf was really close to being lynched but more so that I felt we were heading in the wrong direction with the two people with the most votes being a townie and an inactive. If there's 3 mafias then I'm sure if necessary they could manipulate the votes to make zymf not get lynched. That would raise suspicion but my point being 3 votes is not an extremely close to being lynched scenario for a mafia especially when someone else who was inactive had 2 votes already without either zymf or my votes on him

Also I'd basically be suiciding if zymf was lynched or if I was lynched zymf would likely be lynched next
 
May 16, 2017 11:27 AM

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logic340 said:
So basically you read me as neutral and you are willing to vote for me because you don't have a good read on me? Ruu says that I am playing similar to Sailor Moon when she was scum with me. You were in that game do you feel I am exhibiting those signs or was I regular logic there as well?

I'll say here what I said there.

I got lucky when I voted for you, and I feel most comfortable voting for you now.

 
May 16, 2017 11:31 AM

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RE1031 said:
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@Shinichi-kun, @Oyasum_Rosie, @RE1031 how would you compare Crossbell's D1 here to Kitty Mafia D1? I am not really getting a similar vibes but I am not liking the lack of activity and catchup posts (which are reminiscent)?

I think he's being genuine when he says he's catching up, plus seeing as there are overlapping players, I don't think he'd do the same thing twice. Catching up posts are really easy to identify when it comes to scumplay.
Fair enough. I think in these terms often (see CP kitty mafia). It would be crazy to do the same thing right in front of people who caught you doing it before. You were the only one who saw threw him with me so I put a little more credence on this response.
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May 16, 2017 11:33 AM

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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
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So basically you read me as neutral and you are willing to vote for me because you don't have a good read on me? Ruu says that I am playing similar to Sailor Moon when she was scum with me. You were in that game do you feel I am exhibiting those signs or was I regular logic there as well?

I'll say here what I said there.

I got lucky when I voted for you, and I feel most comfortable voting for you now.
I definitely understand where you are coming from. Just wish you would look at other options. Not sure what your take on most other players is at the moment and you're neutral on me. We have 4 trains with 2 people on them so what are your thoughts on the other 3 trains? What are your thoughts on Crossbell so far?
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May 16, 2017 11:33 AM

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🍫 Vote Count 1.8 🍫

πŸ”₯ πŸ₯ AbuHumaid πŸ₯ πŸ”₯ (2): 🐰 melanoid, Zymf 🐰
πŸ”₯ πŸ₯ WyNdZ πŸ₯ πŸ”₯ (2): 🐰 yurkin, RE1031 🐰
πŸ”₯ πŸ₯ logic340 πŸ₯ πŸ”₯ (2): 🐰 Oyasumi_Rosie, Ruu 🐰
πŸ”₯ πŸ₯ Melanoid πŸ₯ πŸ”₯ (2): 🐰 logic340, WyNdZ 🐰
🐣 Oyasumi_Rosie 🐣 (1): 🐰 wen294 🐰

🌱 Not Voting 🌱 Shinichi-kun, AbuHumaid, Crossbell

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May 16, 2017 11:33 AM

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logic340 said:

@Oyasumi_Rosie - Do you have any town reads currently. Crossbell says your fluff level is the same do you feel like he is slandering you or am I reading you incorrectly in that regard?

Nope, no real town reads yet. Not that I would trust them even if I did.

My fluff is my serious play. I am playing very seriously now. >:3c

All this being said, I much as I find Melanoid a bit suspicious right now, I don't like how people are voting for them when they are not here to defend themselves. Gives me vibes from a certain game with felines in it. That also being said, I double check their role, and it would be one worth losing. People can do what they want, and we will go from there.

 
May 16, 2017 11:34 AM

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logic340 said:
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Analysing previous posts is a much harder task than I imagined.....it would be a lot easier if we could filter all the posts of a particular user.
Is there someone you had in mind? If they haven't posted a lot I might could grab their posts real quick.

@WyNdZ

ctrl+F user name is the best way to do that

 
May 16, 2017 11:34 AM

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Okay guys, we've got less than 30 minutes and we're kind of stuck in a deadlock. This is the worst case scenario.
 
May 16, 2017 11:35 AM

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WyNdZ said:
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Highlighting what I said earlier because I think that's what's happening now.

I revealed the information when zymf had 3 votes and maybe like 12 hours left. Abu who was inactive had 2 votes. It was not like zymf was really close to being lynched but more so that I felt we were heading in the wrong direction with the two people with the most votes being a townie and an inactive. If there's 3 mafias then I'm sure if necessary they could manipulate the votes to make zymf not get lynched. That would raise suspicion but my point being 3 votes is not an extremely close to being lynched scenario for a mafia especially when someone else who was inactive had 2 votes already without either zymf or my votes on him

Also I'd basically be suiciding if zymf was lynched or if I was lynched zymf would likely be lynched next

You have to understand that it's super fishy. There are 12 players, and Zymf, who is getting scum read, just happens to be the name you got? I don't buy it.
Yes it's risky, but if you can protect your buddy, it's worth it.
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May 16, 2017 11:36 AM

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WyNdZ said:
Okay guys, we've got less than 30 minutes and we're kind of stuck in a deadlock. This is the worst case scenario.
I was just saying the same thing.....
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40 minutes and we have four 2 vote trains going on right now. We need to consolidate before we have people jumping votes at the last second.
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May 16, 2017 11:38 AM

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Vote: Melanoid
He voted on me for being inactive even though he himself is inactive
 
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wen294 said:
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What if I don't actually have any questions to ask though? Lol

Its better to keep my vote where its at an wait for information. If I go hunting for it, I might end up giving up more than I end up finding.
Sorry what?
If you're town you don't HAVE any information you could end up giving. Only scum can.

Vote change: Oyasumi_Rosie
Lol you are so silly. Are you forgetting that there is a hidden aspect about my role that I could be giving away?

Though when I wrote this, I wasn't thinking about this game. Just another one where a slip caused town to lose the game.

Is this your slip? :3c

 
May 16, 2017 11:39 AM

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Also, given that votes are really spread out, would anyone take that as one of the trains is on mafia?
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Ruu said:
my grandpa just died. I won't be active during D1 and N1 probably.
I am so sorry to hear that. I will be sending you positive thoughts and energy. Wishing you all the best, I'm here if you need me.
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May 16, 2017 11:41 AM

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logic340 said:
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I'll say here what I said there.

I got lucky when I voted for you, and I feel most comfortable voting for you now.
I definitely understand where you are coming from. Just wish you would look at other options. Not sure what your take on most other players is at the moment and you're neutral on me. We have 4 trains with 2 people on them so what are your thoughts on the other 3 trains? What are your thoughts on Crossbell so far?
Crossbell is the worst kind of lurker because he always as an excuse for it. I didn't see your question at me before because the @ didn't work right, but I got no feelings from him, worst than a netural.

And I am. We need a kill no matter what, so I am willing to change my vote to Melanoid if no one else does. Like I said before, they have a role worth losing. (sorry Mela!! No hard feelings alright?)

 
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@oyasumi_rosie #416
Which game? just asking is it again the infamous kitty mafia lol
 
May 16, 2017 11:44 AM

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πŸ”₯ πŸ₯ Melanoid πŸ₯ πŸ”₯ (3): 🐰 logic340, WyNdZ, AbuHumaid 🐰
🐣 AbuHumaid 🐣 (2): 🐰 melanoid, Zymf 🐰
🐣 WyNdZ 🐣 (2): 🐰 yurkin, RE1031 🐰
🐣 logic340 🐣 (2): 🐰 Oyasumi_Rosie, Ruu 🐰
🐣 Oyasumi_Rosie 🐣 (1): 🐰 wen294 🐰

🌱 Not Voting 🌱 Shinichi-kun, Crossbell

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May 16, 2017 11:45 AM

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If we can't come to agreement, I don't entirely mind voting for Melanoid. If he does flip scum, then I'll probably drop my suspicions of WyNdZ and Zymf. If he flips town... Well I know who I'll be voting for tomorrow.
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yurkin said:
@oyasumi_rosie #416
Which game? just asking is it again the infamous kitty mafia lol
Actually no, the games I had it mind where Stray Dogs and Castle Panic. I gave too much info away too early. One time got me killed the other time it let scum win.

During Kitty mafia I had a driving exam, and I couldn't check my phone. Crossbell lead a crusaded against me that got killed. A good sign if someone is Scum is if they go after me. A good... 73% chance I think.

 
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RE1031 said:
If we can't come to agreement, I don't entirely mind voting for Melanoid. If he does flip scum, then I'll probably drop my suspicions of WyNdZ and Zymf. If he flips town... Well I know who I'll be voting for tomorrow.
I can agree, but it leaves such a bad taste in my mouth. Anyone else you are looking at to vote?

 
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Really not confident on this vote, but:

Vote AbuHumaid

I'm against lynching logic because I feel like he can be more readable as the game goes along.

I'm against lynching Wyndz since he's playing pretty transparently.

I could vote Melanoid but I don't like to lynch new players Day 1.

Which leaves me with Abu, who just literally OMGUS'd Melanoid there. Also have not been really impressed with his posts. I'm not very confident though since I haven't reread.
 
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@oyasumi_rosie #416
Which game? just asking is it again the infamous kitty mafia lol
Oh My God that game. Crossbell was scum, was very inactive (catchup posts left a bigger impact). Then right at phase change gets Rosie lynched (who was vig) then cried that we lost our vig. It was horrible, but no one but me and RE picked up on the fact he was scum and couldn't get anyone to go with us until we got a modkill on scum that gave us interaction analysis. This is why I want their opinions make sure I am not missing something.
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Oyasumi_Rosie said:
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If we can't come to agreement, I don't entirely mind voting for Melanoid. If he does flip scum, then I'll probably drop my suspicions of WyNdZ and Zymf. If he flips town... Well I know who I'll be voting for tomorrow.
I can agree, but it leaves such a bad taste in my mouth. Anyone else you are looking at to vote?

WyNdZ for sure. I don't believe him. WAAAAAY too much of a coincidence.
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@Togs does a tie vote end in RNG or no lynch
@ Everyone I believe the votes are tied right now.
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Also, given that votes are really spread out, would anyone take that as one of the trains is on mafia?

Well there are 4 trains so according to chance one of the trains should be on mafia. Not necessarily though.

I don't like melanoid's play, or more like lack thereof, but i don't really like the way the train is going down either. From my experience lynching the inactive usually ends up in a townie getting hanged.

I'm willing to change vote back to chad, or to abuheman. I won't vote on logic, mela or wyndz.
 
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logic340 said:
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@oyasumi_rosie #416
Which game? just asking is it again the infamous kitty mafia lol
Oh My God that game. Crossbell was scum, was very inactive (catchup posts left a bigger impact). Then right at phase change gets Rosie lynched (who was vig) then cried that we lost our vig. It was horrible, but no one but me and RE picked up on the fact he was scum and couldn't get anyone to go with us until we got a modkill on scum that gave us interaction analysis. This is why I want their opinions make sure I am not missing something.

Lol... I picked up on it moments before my death. I think that was the game that turned me into a skeptic on any kinds of claims.
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logic340 said:
@Togs does a tie vote end in RNG or no lynch
@ Everyone I believe the votes are tied right now.
I am pretty sure its not Rng, but if it is, I am leaving my vote where it is then. Let fate decided how this game will start >:3c

 
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I can agree, but it leaves such a bad taste in my mouth. Anyone else you are looking at to vote?

WyNdZ for sure. I don't believe him. WAAAAAY too much of a coincidence.
I have the opposing opinion I will need to check over his posts and see what I come up with. I have you two and yurkin leaning town right now. Maybe ideological difference between you and Wyndz (unless I am off base)?
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wen294 said:
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Also, given that votes are really spread out, would anyone take that as one of the trains is on mafia?

Well there are 4 trains so according to chance one of the trains should be on mafia. Not necessarily though.

I don't like melanoid's play, or more like lack thereof, but i don't really like the way the train is going down either. From my experience lynching the inactive usually ends up in a townie getting hanged.

I'm willing to change vote back to chad, or to abuheman. I won't vote on logic, mela or wyndz.

Mela may be third party. I don't think he's scum. No one's defended him this entire game. He comes off to me as "unaligned."
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I would have preferred if Melanoid was online. We would be able to get a better read after seeing how he reacts to the votes.
 
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πŸ”₯ πŸ₯ Melanoid πŸ₯ πŸ”₯ (3): 🐰 logic340, WyNdZ, AbuHumaid 🐰
πŸ”₯ πŸ₯ AbuHumaid πŸ₯ πŸ”₯ (3): 🐰 melanoid, Zymf, Crossbell 🐰
🐣 WyNdZ 🐣 (2): 🐰 yurkin, RE1031 🐰
🐣 logic340 🐣 (2): 🐰 Oyasumi_Rosie, Ruu 🐰
🐣 Oyasumi_Rosie 🐣 (1): 🐰 wen294 🐰

🌱 Not Voting 🌱 Shinichi-kun

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May 16, 2017 11:53 AM

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wen294 said:
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Also, given that votes are really spread out, would anyone take that as one of the trains is on mafia?

Well there are 4 trains so according to chance one of the trains should be on mafia. Not necessarily though.

I don't like melanoid's play, or more like lack thereof, but i don't really like the way the train is going down either. From my experience lynching the inactive usually ends up in a townie getting hanged.

I'm willing to change vote back to chad, or to abuheman. I won't vote on logic, mela or wyndz.
Abu and Mela have about the same activity level though? So why are you ok voting Abu who's been pretty inactive but not Mela who has taken some weird stances, had two questionable votes, and is inactive?
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RE1031 said:
wen294 said:

Well there are 4 trains so according to chance one of the trains should be on mafia. Not necessarily though.

I don't like melanoid's play, or more like lack thereof, but i don't really like the way the train is going down either. From my experience lynching the inactive usually ends up in a townie getting hanged.

I'm willing to change vote back to chad, or to abuheman. I won't vote on logic, mela or wyndz.

Mela may be third party. I don't think he's scum. No one's defended him this entire game. He comes off to me as "unaligned."

Hm might be. Either way i don't like lynching him here.

Quick note to everybody: i'm fully able and willing to ninja hammer abu if i need to.
 
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I would have preferred if Melanoid was online. We would be able to get a better read after seeing how he reacts to the votes.
After voting Abu and asking him questions I though he would at least check back to see if Abu responded?
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logic340 said:
wen294 said:

Well there are 4 trains so according to chance one of the trains should be on mafia. Not necessarily though.

I don't like melanoid's play, or more like lack thereof, but i don't really like the way the train is going down either. From my experience lynching the inactive usually ends up in a townie getting hanged.

I'm willing to change vote back to chad, or to abuheman. I won't vote on logic, mela or wyndz.
Abu and Mela have about the same activity level though? So why are you ok voting Abu who's been pretty inactive but not Mela who has taken some weird stances, had two questionable votes, and is inactive?

No. Mela has been less active than abu. Abu was inactive for like close to entire D1 but got pretty active D2. Mela wasn't really active D1 and was inactive D2. I actually scumread Abu for the things he has said in thread. I do not have any reason to vote for Mela other than his inactiveness.
 
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Its time to vooottteeeee

 
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@Shinichi-Kun I hate it when you don't vote!!!
@Wen294 I am find with you hammering. We have 5 minutes so make up your mind.
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I'm so miffed right now. I don't want to vote for either Abu or Mela because WyNdZ is on one train and Zymf on the other.
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I'm getting really nervous, I have a slight scum read on both mela and abu so who to vote on
 
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@Wen294 I am find with you hammering. We have 5 minutes so make up your mind.

Vote change: AbuHeman

There ya go.
 
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No. Mela has been less active than abu. Abu was inactive for like close to entire D1 but got pretty active D2. Mela wasn't really active D1 and was inactive D2. I actually scumread Abu for the things he has said in thread. I do not have any reason to vote for Mela other than his inactiveness.
D... 2?
Is this another slip?

 
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Abu and Mela have about the same activity level though? So why are you ok voting Abu who's been pretty inactive but not Mela who has taken some weird stances, had two questionable votes, and is inactive?

No. Mela has been less active than abu. Abu was inactive for like close to entire D1 but got pretty active D2. Mela wasn't really active D1 and was inactive D2. I actually scumread Abu for the things he has said in thread. I do not have any reason to vote for Mela other than his inactiveness.
During my ISO on Shinichi and collecting Crossbell's post there were two posts from Abu. I would wager to say their post count is almost identical with Mela having more text than abu and weighing in on subjects like lynching Wyndz to prove a townie.
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I'm getting really nervous, I have a slight scum read on both mela and abu so who to vote on
If you have a scum read on both then vote either just don't let it be a tie. With wen voting Abu we you could vote there to make sure no one can tie it up last second. I will move my vote if need be?
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Hmmm

I wonder if I should test my terrible theory now...

 
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Hmmm

I wonder if I should test my terrible theory now...
You don't have much time to decide.
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No. Mela has been less active than abu. Abu was inactive for like close to entire D1 but got pretty active D2. Mela wasn't really active D1 and was inactive D2. I actually scumread Abu for the things he has said in thread. I do not have any reason to vote for Mela other than his inactiveness.
D... 2?
Is this another slip?
Okey i can see that being confusing but i meant real life days, since D1 was 48 hours.
 
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