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May 21, 2017 8:46 PM
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Ruu said:
D1: I think yurkin's lurking is scummy
N1: yurkin dies
D2: wen is one of my top suspects
N2: wen dies.

When did my suspect list became a hit list for mafia xD
Seriously stop killing all my suspects! xDD Also what happened with Rosie's bomb? she didn't use it?


Ur either palying dumb or you didnt read the chat she said her ability only work at odds since thats what she choice. Honestly i believe your scum trying to feign ignorance so u could make it look like u really thought u would die thats why ua voided the train for so long.


 
May 21, 2017 8:47 PM
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lol I've been completely MIA, sorry guys! I'm so bad at being town xD I guess that would help me next time I roll scum >_>



This post is a huge red flag.


 
May 21, 2017 8:48 PM
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@logic340 if Cross and I are you top suspects why did you choose me over him? Am I an easier mislynch? ;)

Also if I end up dying please remember that there is scum on my train. I would reaally like to say that is logic but man... he is acting like town!logic now -_-

I will placed a vote just in case... vote: Crossbell

self-preservation, logic's case and all that... I think we can still win this thou, even if you loose another townie with my lynch. At least it will help the remaining town to sort out the rest of the mafia. Specially if they see who were super okay with my lynch. Don't let them get away with "well, she was acting super scummy and she was lurking so it was obvs she was scum at the time".


@ bold serously your either jester or scum at this point. Feel like ur just trying to guilt trip logic.

@logic340 does scum ruu refer to herself as town this much if at all any?


 
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Ruu said:
@logic340 have you used your role on someone? have you gained any information from it? (you don't need to tell me the name of the player I just want to know).
Personally I don't think I should answer this right now. Wouldn't it be better to let the mafia sip wine and I reveal the information when it's most prudent to do so? I don't see how revealing this information helps town at the moment? I'm not opposed to answering you can give me adequate reason.

As I told Zymf or Wyndz (Shinichi's short term is kicking in...lol). I will share the chat thread with everyone and since I have said that whoever is neighbored must agree to that.

Hypothetically if/when I decide to neighbor I will tell them this:
logic340 said:
before we get down to business I need to make something clear to you.
I told Zymf (or Wynd) that I would share my conversion with my neighbor in the thread and I fully intend to do this. So in taking part you consent to me sharing the entirety of what is said here with the other players. Also please do not inform the thread that I have neighbored you just yet. I want to see if anyone goes looking for this information.


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@logic340 if Cross and I are you top suspects why did you choose me over him? Am I an easier mislynch? ;)

Also if I end up dying please remember that there is scum on my train. I would reaally like to say that is logic but man... he is acting like town!logic now -_-

I will placed a vote just in case... vote: Crossbell

self-preservation, logic's case and all that... I think we can still win this thou, even if you loose another townie with my lynch. At least it will help the remaining town to sort out the rest of the mafia. Specially if they see who were super okay with my lynch. Don't let them get away with "well, she was acting super scummy and she was lurking so it was obvs she was scum at the time".

1. I get it you are implying you are tow but are you also implying that Crossbell you implying that Crossbell is a mislynch with the bolded? These things feel like TMI slips?
2. Of the people currently on your train who do you think is likely scum? Can I get your read on me? How did you go from scum reading me to he's now acting like townie logic?
3. Other than self-preservation do you actually scum read Crossbell? Do you have any read on him? Do you have a read on Shinichi as I though he was your other scum read besides me and wen?
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Shinichi-Kun said:
Ruu said:
@logic340 if Cross and I are you top suspects why did you choose me over him? Am I an easier mislynch? ;)

Also if I end up dying please remember that there is scum on my train. I would reaally like to say that is logic but man... he is acting like town!logic now -_-

I will placed a vote just in case... vote: Crossbell

self-preservation, logic's case and all that... I think we can still win this thou, even if you loose another townie with my lynch. At least it will help the remaining town to sort out the rest of the mafia. Specially if they see who were super okay with my lynch. Don't let them get away with "well, she was acting super scummy and she was lurking so it was obvs she was scum at the time".


@ bold serously your either jester or scum at this point. Feel like ur just trying to guilt trip logic.

@logic340 does scum ruu refer to herself as town this much if at all any?
Yes, that was part of my ISO she likes to perpetuate the idea that she is town. Usually by talking about her town game.
ex. 1. Wanting to improve her scum hunting
ex. 2. Not having the burden of being mafia
This game getting her wish? Not confident to call it a definite tell but it definitely stands out.
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May 21, 2017 9:05 PM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
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That's the thing, everyone has their own opinion on what is beneficial for their alignment. And everyone also has preferences for which roles they like. And then if it really comes down to a consensus, you can forever go back and forth with arguments like "well, I also chose it because it'd be really bad if scum had it" and "that's exactly what scum would say" and "but am I wrong." Also, the roles they chose were based on how well they'd work in theory. Most likely their opinion has changed now that we've seen a couple roles in play.
Crossbell supposedly got the most townie role on the list, but I don't trust him at all (I don't think you did, up until one of your most recent posts). How do you feel about him claiming to have visited you night 1 yet you dropping hints everywhere that you were going to block him? Do you buy that he only read your first statement, where you asked him to be your guardian angel or whatever, and not the other posts where you tried to misguide scum? Sipping wine and keeping scum guessing is the easiest answer to give when asked about night actions.


I dont think its an opinion though certain roles are way better for town while some are way better for scum lie the jailer and the bomb role. I dont think they would change either way. I cant say much since i picked the roles based on what i want regardless of any alignment indctice but some roles like i said u would seek as scum, roles like the painter and the green egg whatever its called are both something that could be very manipulative. The jailer is something you would want as scum while reloader is not because you cant predict what eggs your team would get.

Im curious of why u keep going back to that same statement though are u trying to pressure zymf into scum reading crossbell?

This is exactly what I mean by opinion. I'm pretty sure a while ago someone, either Zymf or Logic, said that the artist and green eggs were not scummy roles. And not sure if this reason's been given out yet, but the jailer seems to be a rather townie role. It can stop a NK, whether that means the person is mafia or the victim, which means although it'll be difficult to tell which of the two it is, it has a higher chance of preventing the NK, which is bad for scum and good for town.
I'm questioning why he town reads Crossbell. His reasoning are based on a few select posts, and I'm starting to think it has less to do with what Crossbell has said and more to do with his role as watcher.
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May 21, 2017 9:07 PM

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@Crossbell why is it you aren't currently voting?'
You know what F*** it.
Uvote:
Vote: Crossbell

As much as I don't like voting with Ruu right now
Lets see if this will help to get you active.

Edit: Added vote.
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May 21, 2017 9:18 PM

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Will not lynch today:
Wyndz/Zymf/RE

Not really sure:
Suzu/Shinichi

Willing to lynch today:
Ruu/Crossbell
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May 21, 2017 9:27 PM

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Ruu said:
D1: I think yurkin's lurking is scummy
N1: yurkin dies
D2: wen is one of my top suspects
N2: wen dies.

When did my suspect list became a hit list for mafia xD
Seriously stop killing all my suspects! xDD Also what happened with Rosie's bomb? she didn't use it?
God I feel like I should move my vote right back to you. If your town like you day and all your scum reads keep flipping town shouldn't you maybe reevaluate your town reads?
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May 21, 2017 9:31 PM

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Suzune-chan said:
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Can you explain as to why you think there is something wrong with that post in more detail, or is it mostly gut? I'm just kind of confused, as what you're saying could be applied to basically any post in this game - can you dive deeper as to why that post specifically gave you those vibes?
It's at least 90% tone, context and feeling. That is what I also mentioned in the post. It was the second red flag I got in reading the game, the first being RE the second being yours. Your posts are strange and I stopped commenting on them to be honest, because I had nothing to say that town can appreciate. No one wants to hear how Suzune thinks the writing voice is off or that the information is strange.

However, since i cannot throw darts at it, I am instead going to keep it simmering on the back burner. That way when I finally see the hit I can attack it. In my opinion you posts are busy, they fill a lot of space they say things, but no one them move the momentum of the game really. Your information posts are general and say what you are thinking, but you never make attack on the instead you linger in the background. The ones you do post though that are not your personal thoughts are strike posts. They are carefully worded to do damage. Right now I am filing your posts under the Jackrito strategy of a perfect scum game and looking to see what you do.

I 100% agree with this post. (the bottom part)
I want a vote from Crossbell. Then we can move on to more concrete analyzation.
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May 21, 2017 10:16 PM

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🍫 Vote Count 3.4 🍫

πŸ”₯ πŸ₯ Crossbell πŸ₯ πŸ”₯ (3): 🐰 RE1031, Ruu, logic340 🐰
🐣 Ruu 🐣 (2): 🐰 WyNdZ, Shinichi-kun 🐰
🐣 RE1031 🐣 (1): 🐰 Suzune-chan 🐰
🐣 WyNdZ 🐣 (1): 🐰 Zymf 🐰

🌱 Not Voting 🌱 Crossbell

🐀 Role Index 🐀

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May 21, 2017 11:04 PM

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I am so tired I hope I wake up before phase change tomorrow. Yeah I sleep a lot.

@Ruu I would like some reads from you (with evidence). It seems you expect to be lynched but that doesn't mean you can't at least try to defend yourself. The best defense is a strong offense and all that.

@Shinichi-kun I would like a list from you. Scum/Neutral/Town. I've been town-reading you for the majority of this game but it's mostly based on meta. Should I continue? Not sure anymore, so to get a better grasp of your alignment, I think hearing your thoughts on everyone in one go is an alright place to start.

Maybe I should have done this earlier....
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So shit is too quiet around here for my liking.
I'm off to bed I hope I wake up to a new page in the morning.
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I cannot believe.5+'hours later I wake up to not one be post.
Where is everyone?
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So I am at work now and I don't know what to think?
We have lost all that momentum we had coming out of the lynch D1.
I have things I would like to discuss but I cannot do it alone?

@Ruu, @Crossbell , @Zymf, @Wyndz, @Suzune-chan @RE1031, @Shinichi-kun
7.5 hours until phase change and we have had basically 8 hours of nothing?
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logic340 said:
We have lost all that momentum we had coming out of the lynch D1.
I have things I would like to discuss but I cannot do it alone?
You are right that we've lost our momentum and that we should be a bit more active.
But ask away and we (at least I) will answer. Don't wait till we are online to begin the discussions.
 
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All of Crossbell's posts (Unfiltered and uncommented)
 
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Zymf said:
logic340 said:
We have lost all that momentum we had coming out of the lynch D1.
I have things I would like to discuss but I cannot do it alone?
You are right that we've lost our momentum and that we should be a bit more active.
But ask away and we (at least I) will answer. Don't wait till we are online to begin the discussions.
Um... I haven't been waiting though?
#1022 Ruu ISO
If you could respone to #1189
If you could tell me how you feel about Ruu fishing for my role information in #1244
Crossbell ISO
I would like your reads on Suzune/Shinichi/Crossbell/Ruu
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logic340 said:

Ruu said:
D1: I think yurkin's lurking is scummy
N1: yurkin dies
D2: wen is one of my top suspects
N2: wen dies.

When did my suspect list became a hit list for mafia xD
Seriously stop killing all my suspects! xDD Also what happened with Rosie's bomb? she didn't use it?
God I feel like I should move my vote right back to you. If your town like you day and all your scum reads keep flipping town shouldn't you maybe reevaluate your town reads?
@Zymf I would like you to share your thoughts on the posts in the quote? You are confirmed town and I don't really know how you feel about the players at the moment. I know you took offense to my activity post but among the player base your post count is likely among the bottom 2 players. There is content but I and others have asked you some questions that have gone in answered. I have done 3 ISO's and I don't remember you responding to any of them? You tell me to ask questions but I have asked a lot that have not been addressed yet this phase I would like answers to those before I just spew more into the thread that will be overlooked.
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Looking at Crossbells posts there's A LOT that only say that he's busy and "catching up":


This annoys me a bit, because earlier in the game, Crossbell said that my catching up posting was scumm and used that as reason to vote me:
Crossbell said:
Vote Zymf

Wouldn't also be opposed to a vote on AbuHumaid.

Zymf's catching up posting style reminds me of myself when I'm scum (just catch up, respond to a bunch of questions, and never ask any of my own) without doing any actual scumhunting. Plus, I'm really interested as to why he said that wen's post gave him town vibes because I don't see it myself.

@logic340: This is so weird. You say that you want me to post since you won't have anyone to tunnel, but you've mostly just been ignoring me AND my posts. This is so unnatural of you, and I would expect something different after the end of Kitty Mafia. At the risk of poking the bear's nest, what's up?

I think his way of doing it is far more scummy! If you don't have time to make substantial and contributing posts, then you shouldn't waste it on "Sorry, I'm catching up" - which only clogs up the thread.
So why would Crossbell make no less than 6 of these posts? Either she is town who only feels sorry for not contributing much. OR! She is scum that also feel sorry for being inactive, but also think that these posts makes her look busy and therefore excused from both hunting for scum and being hunted as scum.

This is the main reason I have for suspecting Crossbell at the moment.
As to why I am then instead voting WyNdZ and not Crossbell I will try and explain in my next post. Stay tuned for more :P
I will respond to Logic instead...
 
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logic340 said:
@Suzune-chan I've been thinning about how you said you look at things aseither townie or scummy. I'm trying to think about mindsetf so if Wyndz is mafia Peeker why wouldn't he just let Zynf get lynched and just claim another townie with a weaker role as confirmed? Why make things harder for his mafia team by cleaning the strongest potential town role? And then he lynched Abu over Mela. If he is mafia he's playing the long game in a crazy ass way imo.


@Zymf I would also like your take on this post as well?
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logic340 said:
I know you took offense to my activity post but among the player base your post count is likely among the bottom 2 players. There is content but I and others have asked you some questions that have gone in answered.
But my long backreading-posts contain like 10 responses each? Doesn't that count as something? I spent hours on each one. If there are questions I missed, then restate them and quote me next to them.

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logic340 said:

God I feel like I should move my vote right back to you. If your town like you day and all your scum reads keep flipping town shouldn't you maybe reevaluate your town reads?
@Zymf I would like you to share your thoughts on the posts in the quote?
I think Ruu's post is null out of context. If my top suspects keep getting Night Killed I would find it funny as well and make a similar post. Much like how I made post #498, when I found it wierd that I was confirmed town, had roles jailor and town had lynched scum.
But it could also be that Ruu is trying to act town deliberately as scum ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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If you could tell me how you feel about Ruu fishing for my role information in #1244
It's also null, really...
Rolefishing in general has been regarded as a highly scummy thing to do in Mafia Society for a long time, so if I was scum, I'd try to avoid it. So depending on Ruu's meta which I'm not familiar with it can be either a town tell or a scum tell.
The last paranthesis where she says that you don't need to tell the name of the player might be a slight scum tell though, since it shows that she has at least thought about how it might sound.

logic340 said:
#1022 Ruu ISO
If you could respone to #1189
Crossbell ISO
I would like your reads on Suzune/Shinichi/Crossbell/Ruu
I will respond to these later if I have time as each of them will take a substantial amount of time...
 
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I dont think its an opinion though certain roles are way better for town while some are way better for scum lie the jailer and the bomb role. I dont think they would change either way. I cant say much since i picked the roles based on what i want regardless of any alignment indctice but some roles like i said u would seek as scum, roles like the painter and the green egg whatever its called are both something that could be very manipulative. The jailer is something you would want as scum while reloader is not because you cant predict what eggs your team would get.

Im curious of why u keep going back to that same statement though are u trying to pressure zymf into scum reading crossbell?

This is exactly what I mean by opinion. I'm pretty sure a while ago someone, either Zymf or Logic, said that the artist and green eggs were not scummy roles. And not sure if this reason's been given out yet, but the jailer seems to be a rather townie role. It can stop a NK, whether that means the person is mafia or the victim, which means although it'll be difficult to tell which of the two it is, it has a higher chance of preventing the NK, which is bad for scum and good for town.
I'm questioning why he town reads Crossbell. His reasoning are based on a few select posts, and I'm starting to think it has less to do with what Crossbell has said and more to do with his role as watcher.


Blieve the opposite the jailer is may more effective as a scum role than a town role but thats just my opinion and suzune was the one that mentioned the full potential of the green egg or whatever its called If you can find the post it explains it pretty well. Crossbell only has a few posts tho thats the problem compared to me and you or even logic himself.


 
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I am so tired I hope I wake up before phase change tomorrow. Yeah I sleep a lot.

@Ruu I would like some reads from you (with evidence). It seems you expect to be lynched but that doesn't mean you can't at least try to defend yourself. The best defense is a strong offense and all that.

@Shinichi-kun I would like a list from you. Scum/Neutral/Town. I've been town-reading you for the majority of this game but it's mostly based on meta. Should I continue? Not sure anymore, so to get a better grasp of your alignment, I think hearing your thoughts on everyone in one go is an alright place to start.

Maybe I should have done this earlier....


Ill provide a more accurate read list later but for now ruu/rei i would be ok lynching today even crossbell if worse comes to worse.


 
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@logic340 im not sure where anyone is either,but ill def be here for phase change if that helps.


 
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So RE1031 is my neighbor and here is what we discussed. I don't want to reveal this information too late and have it make things more chaotic that they can be at phase change. I would have revealed it sooner but I was hoping that other topics would be discussed first as I didn't want this to be a distraction.
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@zymf i just realized that post by crossbell most def means hes scum, he prob said that early on in the game so we wouldnt be able to go back to say hey your being a hypocrit for calling out zymf. He put a self defense mechanism in place to protect himself, no need to do that as town don't you think?


 
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@logic340 did u ask togs before u psoted this message? Cause normally thats against the rules.



 
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@logic340 did u ask togs before u psoted this message? Cause normally thats against the rules.

It was discussed in the thread between RE and I though I didn't ask him directly. I hope I didn't fuck up :(
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logic340 said:
So RE1031 is my neighbor and here is what we discussed. I don't want to reveal this information too late and have it make things more chaotic that they can be at phase change. I would have revealed it sooner but I was hoping that other topics would be discussed first as I didn't want this to be a distraction.
@Togs did I make a mistake by doing this? If so I am prepared to suffer the consequences of my sins.
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@zymf i just realized that post by crossbell most def means hes scum, he prob said that early on in the game so we wouldnt be able to go back to say hey your being a hypocrit for calling out zymf. He put a self defense mechanism in place to protect himself, no need to do that as town don't you think?
How does this post alone make Crossbell scum? What do you mean self defense mechanism? Like he called out Zymf about his catch up posting style so that if someone said something to him about it he could call them out? How
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@Shinichi-kun I am not going to hurt my head up about it too much.
I said in the thread I would be sharing our interactions.
I told RE in the first post in the thread I would be sharing.
I created this post in the Club last night some 11 hours before posting and made it clear my intent was to put it in the thread.
I am sure he knew I was going to do it but I didn't think to check with the host first.
I will take it as a learning lesson.
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With 2 hours left can we consolidate on to two trains?
Are the votes on Wyndz and RE serious?
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logic340 said:
With 2 hours left can we consolidate on to two trains?
Are the votes on Wyndz and RE serious?
Yes other is a very serious vote. I could compromise on cross, wy, or ruu though because they are also high on my list. I cannot be here fornphase change though because it is right in the middle of my work day.

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Suzune-chan said:
logic340 said:
With 2 hours left can we consolidate on to two trains?
Are the votes on Wyndz and RE serious?
Yes other is a very serious vote. I could compromise on cross, wy, or ruu though because they are also high on my list. I cannot be here fornphase change though because it is right in the middle of my work day.
Could you share your thougths on my Ruu and Crossbell ISO's?
And this post here when you have a chance
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logic340 said:
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Yes other is a very serious vote. I could compromise on cross, wy, or ruu though because they are also high on my list. I cannot be here fornphase change though because it is right in the middle of my work day.
Could you share your thougths on my Ruuand Crossbell ISO ISO's?
Honestly I would love to but I cannot I have to return to work in five minutes. However in my experience with ruu I think she is better scum then she is playing but her busy kind of fluff posts make me really suspect her. I have given my perspective on cross already.

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Sadly with where the roleover of this game is I will have to play early each phase because I cannot be here at the end.

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Could you share your thougths on my Ruuand Crossbell ISO ISO's?
Honestly I would love to but I cannot I have to return to work in five minutes. However in my experience with ruu I think she is better scum then she is playing but her busy kind of fluff posts make me really suspect her. I have given my perspective on cross already.

I feel it's too scummy to be scum sometimes then she proclaims town like she usually does as mafia and I'm like which tell is more true?

With Crossbell it's more due to his activity and a gut feel I have. I surely don't feel as strongly here as I did in Kitty mafia when I caught him but I am no where near comfortable with him either. I remember your initial thoughts on Crossbell just was curious if anything changed and if you saw my ISO.

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May 22, 2017 10:12 AM

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I've just gotten sick with stomach pain and headache, so this will be my last post today.
(I'm gonna lay down soon and feel sorry for myself x.x)

Vote: Crossbell

I guess I can gain info on WyNdZ as well from lynching Crossbell. It's a shame that we have to lynch our watcher though..
 
May 22, 2017 10:21 AM
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@Shinichi-kun I am not going to hurt my head up about it too much.
I said in the thread I would be sharing our interactions.
I told RE in the first post in the thread I would be sharing.
I created this post in the Club last night some 11 hours before posting and made it clear my intent was to put it in the thread.
I am sure he knew I was going to do it but I didn't think to check with the host first.
I will take it as a learning lesson.


Its ok its not game breaking anyways normally tho its not allowed but we will see, seeing as how its your messages its sohuld ultiamtely be up to you.


 
May 22, 2017 10:22 AM
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@logic340

Zymf's catching up posting style reminds me of myself when I'm scum (just catch up, respond to a bunch of questions, and never ask any of my own) without doing any actual scumhunting. Plus, I'm really interested as to why he said that wen's post gave him town vibes because I don't see it myself.


Doesnt it feel like he's setting up a safe mechanism, it's kinda like he's softing that hes town based on the way hes catching up now but the way zymf is catching up is scum. You don't think thats strange at all?


 
May 22, 2017 10:25 AM
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so right now crossbell has 4, i really want ruu to be lynched today but ill change my vote to make sure no weird ties happen.


 
May 22, 2017 10:26 AM

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Ruu said:
D1: I think yurkin's lurking is scummy
N1: yurkin dies
D2: wen is one of my top suspects
N2: wen dies.

When did my suspect list became a hit list for mafia xD
Seriously stop killing all my suspects! xDD Also what happened with Rosie's bomb? she didn't use it?

No idea but as others have said it's not a good idea to think too much about why the mafia killed a certain person. It's important to remember that while town might think to analyse the kills the mafia also take into consideration that town will do this and act accordingly. There's just too many variables so your suspect list being a hit list for mafia is a null point for me.

The fact that wen was one of your top suspects is actually a negative point for me since I had a strong town read on him. Not sure why one would have a strong scum read on him when he absolutely roasted Abu on day 1.

Rosie's bomb was on odd day. How do you not know this already :/Are you feigning ignorance?
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self-preservation, logic's case and all that... I think we can still win this thou, even if you loose another townie with my lynch. At least it will help the remaining town to sort out the rest of the mafia. Specially if they see who were super okay with my lynch. Don't let them get away with "well, she was acting super scummy and she was lurking so it was obvs she was scum at the time".

I expected a stronger reaction from you regardless of alignment. Mafia would in my opinion give a stronger reaction but even a townie would try to defend themselves or at least tell us who they find scummy before they are killed.

Your reasons for voting on Crossbell are understandable but do you actually find him scummy? It would be beneficial if you give your reads on the current player, if you die and flip town it'll give us a read that we'll be sure was genuine and not having some ulterior motive.
 
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Zymf said:

I guess I can gain info on WyNdZ as well from lynching Crossbell. It's a shame that we have to lynch our watcher though..

It is but he obviously didn't find out anything from last night. He would have at least left a vote.
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Shinichi-Kun said:
@logic340

Zymf's catching up posting style reminds me of myself when I'm scum (just catch up, respond to a bunch of questions, and never ask any of my own) without doing any actual scumhunting. Plus, I'm really interested as to why he said that wen's post gave him town vibes because I don't see it myself.


Doesnt it feel like he's setting up a safe mechanism, it's kinda like he's softing that hes town based on the way hes catching up now but the way zymf is catching up is scum. You don't think thats strange at all?
I am getting similar soft townie claim vibes from Ruu and Crossbell's posts. You have been doing it too which I find interesting since you kind of got me to stop doing it so much? I will vote for either I just want to be certain we have no last minute shenanigans going on. A tie would end in RNG this time around but I would rather we avoid that.

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So lets see, it looks like either Ruu or Crossbell will be lynched. If crossbell comes online I expect him to place his vote on Ruu for self-preservation. Anyways I've spoken about Ruu already so I'm gonna talk about Crossbell now.

Crossbell - I find him very hard to read. On day 1 his posts looked very townish although he did jump onto the train on voting on zymf last. I've stated before that I feel the chances of mafia being on that train is very high and at present all three of those players are still alive so the chances of that being true are even higher. He voted on Abu though which is another townish thing.
After day 1 he's not been that active (laying low?) but he's not done anything that stands out as scum. I really agree with his analysis of the players though.

In contrast Ruu has done a lot of things that can be perceived as scummy. One thing I'll have to say though is that Ruu is definitely not afraid to stand out. She does things that she knows will be perceived as scummy but still does it. She has a lot of scummy behaviour that it just makes me feel that isn't this too obvious?Would a mafia really act this way?
 
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Zymf said:

I guess I can gain info on WyNdZ as well from lynching Crossbell. It's a shame that we have to lynch our watcher though..

It is but he obviously didn't find out anything from last night. He would have at least left a vote.
I guess it's possible he didn't use his ability last night? Otherwise if he did I am assuming he didn't watch wen or he would have shared that information?
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Hi I am here on mobile because I have been unable to be at my laptop for the past day or two because i've been travelling.

I understand that I am likely the lynch Today and I think I deserve it because of my spotty activity. This is completely understandable and I get it. However, I am town, and I will try my best to prove it to you guys in this last hour. If I do not manage to be able to, sorry guys for letting you down.
 
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Gonna self pres.

Vote Ruu

The reason why I wasn't voting was because I was trying to sort out which of Ruu/Shinichi/RE are scum and I wasn't sure.
 
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So lets see, it looks like either Ruu or Crossbell will be lynched. If crossbell comes online I expect him to place his vote on Ruu for self-preservation. Anyways I've spoken about Ruu already so I'm gonna talk about Crossbell now.

Crossbell - I find him very hard to read. On day 1 his posts looked very townish although he did jump onto the train on voting on zymf last. I've stated before that I feel the chances of mafia being on that train is very high and at present all three of those players are still alive so the chances of that being true are even higher. He voted on Abu though which is another townish thing.
After day 1 he's not been that active (laying low?) but he's not done anything that stands out as scum. I really agree with his analysis of the players though.

In contrast Ruu has done a lot of things that can be perceived as scummy. One thing I'll have to say though is that Ruu is definitely not afraid to stand out. She does things that she knows will be perceived as scummy but still does it. She has a lot of scummy behaviour that it just makes me feel that isn't this too obvious?Would a mafia really act this way?

I feel the same way about both of them. Last time Crossbell was scum I found things that were off like how he pushed the Rosie mislynch before jumping on the train. With Ruu I know she has been scum so often that she has a hard time being town. That being said her early game seemed to be her playing more carefully while her late game seems to be more carefree?
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