| Global Warming is a topic that I'm deeply passionate about. As an American, what's happening in the Trump administration in regards to environmental protection and conservation is deeply upsetting. It's inevitable that temperatures will continue to rise, as no political figure seems to ever intervene in the fight for clean energy. Thoughts? |
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Veneficia said: Global warming is a hoax they just want to plant more trees and put up more red tape that prevents companies from dumping their waste in the local watering hole, the bastards. I detect sarcasm but I'm unsure /:) ? |
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| if anyone mentions 'clean coal' just ban we should be pushing progress... we're kinda hoping it'll just come at us through the private sector and a dream, who knows if that'll work though. (d o n ' t buy a beachfront house in miami or new orleans) |
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Veneficia said: But what am I going to do with hundreds of thousands of dollars that are burning a hole in my pocket? let it trickle down my balls economy |
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heckity_heck said: Global Warming is a topic that I'm deeply passionate about. As an American, what's happening in the Trump administration in regards to environmental protection and conservation is deeply upsetting. It's inevitable that temperatures will continue to rise, as no political figure seems to ever intervene in the fight for clean energy. Thoughts? Global warming is a natural occurrence. We know this because there had been multiple ice ages in this world.Heck the end of the last ice age was around 12 thousand years ago.So it makes perfect sense that the world we be getting warmer. As the earth gets warmer the process is going to speed up until something else causes the global temperature to dive and we go through another ice age.. Clean energy and global warming don't have to be part of the same topic. Just because many people think its hogwash that humans are causing climate change doesn't mean they want dirty water and dirty air. You can argue for clean air and clean water without bringing the chicken little scenario of man made global warming into it. There is this thing called erosion, so you shouldn't buy any beach front property. |
ezikialrage said: heckity_heck said: Global Warming is a topic that I'm deeply passionate about. As an American, what's happening in the Trump administration in regards to environmental protection and conservation is deeply upsetting. It's inevitable that temperatures will continue to rise, as no political figure seems to ever intervene in the fight for clean energy. Thoughts? Global warming is a natural occurrence. We know this because there had been multiple ice ages in this world.Heck the end of the last ice age was around 12 thousand years ago.So it makes perfect sense that the world we be getting warmer. As the earth gets warmer the process is going to speed up until something else causes the global temperature to dive and we go through another ice age.. Clean energy and global warming don't have to be part of the same topic. Just because many people think its hogwash that humans are causing climate change doesn't mean they want dirty water and dirty air. You can argue for clean air and clean water without bringing the chicken little scenario of man made global warming into it. Its about the rates here my dude, we haven't seen anything like this really. CO2 hit 410ppm recently, greenhouse effect is real and is exponential in many ways. unless we shit out some amazing tech we kinda screwed (more our kids tho) u right the mountains are prettier imo, beach more fun though |
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@ezikialrage I don't agree but... okay /:) There's lots of evidence against your claim, though... https://climate.nasa.gov/ https://climate.nasa.gov/solutions/energy_innovations/ https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/ I'm pretty sure NASA might be a tad more informed than you, no offence... |
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j0x said: im tired of people like Trump saying global warming is not real since its cold where he lives, the fact is the rising heat melts ice everywhere and that brings cold breeze to some parts of the world and will make sea level rise too and rising heat also trigger more evaporation that can bring more rains and powerful storm and on some unlucky parts of the world the rising heat will surely decrease the water supply and kill agriculture that will heavily affect food supply NASA have made this video showing that this recent Climate Change/Global Warming is really man made so i wish at least China, USA, India could lower their CO2 levels more since we here in poor countries do not even contribute much to the rise of CO2 levels anyway since we are hardly heavy industrialize countries like them Oh please. As soon as these small countries have a chance to industrialize, they will. And probably give no fucks. And Trump is right to say what he does, until China acknowledges it gives no fucks about global climate change. Doesn't matter if the United States takes drastic measures only to be undercut by another power. Why should we do the right thing and punish ourselves, while you all reap the short term benefits We have all been on this planet the same amount of time. In 2010, global greenhouse gas emissions from the agricultural sector totaled 4.7 billion tons of carbon dioxide (CO₂) equivalent, up 13 percent over 1990. Agriculture is the third largest contributor to global emissions by sector, following the burning of fossil fuels for power and heat, and transportation. So go nuclear and some any combination of energy conservation with green energy and pray for a better future alternative, that won't give other countries the power to just bathe the planet in nuclear radiation in weaponized form anyways. And pray for a better solution in the future? Cut back on transportation? Cut back on population? Again there are far more people worldwide than there are in the United States. |
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Aureolus said: Wouldn't this fit better in casual discussion? True... it is a current event though, so idk. |
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| @Soverign I'm not saying that Global Warming will be addressed; it probably won't considering what you pointed out. I'm saying that it SHOULD be addressed (again, it most likely won't). The person you quoted is right, though. Atm poor countries don't produce much CO₂, but this, like you said, will change (unless poor countries develop with clean energy, which is unlikely). I'm confused by your argument. |
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Soverign said: until China acknowledges it gives no fucks about global climate change. Doesn't matter if the United States takes drastic measures only to be undercut by another power. Why should we do the right thing and punish ourselves, while you all reap the short term benefits We have all been on this planet the same amount of time. Cut back on transportation? Cut back on population? Again there are far more people worldwide than there are in the United States. "punish ourselves' nice meme, we have so much and can make it better for everyone: you exactly right, the US has how many people and accounts for how much pollution/affect on global warming? China has been more progressive than us in terms of renewable energy, they're actually making progress/investing https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/05/world/asia/china-renewable-energy-investment.html cutting back population would be a big key. if they and other countries can skip the fucking terrible early to mid industry itd help a lot. heres a good chart https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1732:_Earth_Temperature_Timeline |
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| Recognizing climate change/warming does not mean we agree that it's okay to police the general population's lives to the point of great inconvenience. Scumbags like Obama had no right talking about protecting the environment. Not when he flew into Africa with his majestic Air Force One, rolling out the red carpets, and telling starving Africans they have no right to electricity or cars. |
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@Ratohnhaketon I don't agree but okay? Please provide a source that details the event that you have described, because I don't recall that ever occurring. And if no one intervenes to stop global warming, the general population will cease to exist. |
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j0x said: you think only the poor countries will benefit from stopping climate change/global warming? get ready for global migrant crisis if man made climate change does not stop and economically speaking using renewable energy can bring more profit and money to rich countries too anyway plus new jobs for you people there so why still use fossil fuels that can just harm the environment? No way! I had no idea! I wonder why they made such a big push for nuclear energy way back when! But that was shut down. Even Hydroelectric dams come under fire, for disturbing the environment. Which, anyways, neither that, or wind turbines is viable for every single geographic location. Or the energy demands of its populace. Really, you are your own biggest enemy here. But you don't know it. As far as the smaller countries, Ikaros_42oh understood what I was saying. If you don't adopt this stuff now, also. Then you will be the next big producer instead of USA or China. In about 20 years. Assuming some global thermonuclear war doesn't erase all that effort anyways. You can't even corral N. Korea or Iran. LMAO! Ikaros_42oh said: "punish ourselves' nice meme, we have so much and can make it better for everyone: you exactly right, the US has how many people and accounts for how much pollution/affect on global warming? China has been more progressive than us in terms of renewable energy, they're actually making progress/investing https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/05/world/asia/china-renewable-energy-investment.html cutting back population would be a big key. if they and other countries can skip the fucking terrible early to mid industry itd help a lot. heres a good chart https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1732:_Earth_Temperature_Timeline Key Points In 2014, U.S. greenhouse gas emissions totaled 6,870 million metric tons (15.1 trillion pounds) of carbon dioxide equivalents. This total represents a 7 percent increase since 1990 but a 7 percent decrease since 2005 (see Figure 1). For the United States, during the period from 1990 to 2014 (see Figure 1): Emissions of carbon dioxide, the primary greenhouse gas emitted by human activities, increased by 9 percent. Methane emissions decreased by 6 percent, as reduced emissions from landfills, coal mines, and natural gas systems more than offset increases in emissions from activities such as livestock production.2 Nitrous oxide emissions, predominantly from agricultural soil management practices such as the use of nitrogen as a fertilizer, decreased by 1 percent. Emissions of fluorinated gases (hydrofluorocarbons, perfluorocarbons, sulfur hexafluoride, and nitrogen trifluoride), released as a result of commercial, industrial, and household uses, increased by 77 percent. Among the various sectors of the U.S. economy, electricity generation (power plants) accounts for the largest share of emissions—31 percent of total greenhouse gas emissions since 1990. Transportation is the second-largest sector, accounting for 26 percent of emissions since 1990 (see Figure 2). Last time I checked the United States was number two in emissions, behind China and slightly ahead of number three, The EU. |
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heckity_heck said: @Ratohnhaketon I don't agree but okay? Please provide a source that details the event that you have described, because I don't recall that ever occurring. And if no one intervenes to stop global warming, the general population will cease to exist. Correction: Air conditioning, not electricity (which is basically still shitty). You can do your own footwork next time, I'm not here to micromanage your inability to use simple Google searches. |
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Ratohnhaketon said: heckity_heck said: @Ratohnhaketon I don't agree but okay? Please provide a source that details the event that you have described, because I don't recall that ever occurring. And if no one intervenes to stop global warming, the general population will cease to exist. Correction: Air conditioning, not electricity (which is basically still shitty). You can do your own footwork next time, I'm not here to micromanage your inability to use simple Google searches. Wow, calm down. Thank you for the source... |
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Ratohnhaketon said: heckity_heck said: @Ratohnhaketon I don't agree but okay? Please provide a source that details the event that you have described, because I don't recall that ever occurring. And if no one intervenes to stop global warming, the general population will cease to exist. Correction: Air conditioning, not electricity (which is basically still shitty). You can do your own footwork next time, I'm not here to micromanage your inability to use simple Google searches. damn at least obama gets a damn point across for the first half. 'boil over' is obv a hyperbole but the results of no improvement by the west and developing 3rd world would lead to serious disasters. he's better then Donald 'clean coal' "COAL" 'I donated my salary, all good' Trump when it comes to the environment Obamas hand was very forced to keep drilling and polluting due to tech at the time and other factors. Donnie has a chance but idk if he'll do it, he's involved with some sketchy oil companies (EXXON) and *whispers* russia (obama also made some sketchy deals with the middle east for oil (sold arms i think)) nothing new i guess |
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Ikaros_42oh said: Ratohnhaketon said: Correction: Air conditioning, not electricity (which is basically still shitty). You can do your own footwork next time, I'm not here to micromanage your inability to use simple Google searches. damn at least obama gets a damn point across for the first half. 'boil over' is obv a hyperbole but the results of no improvement by the west and developing 3rd world would lead to serious disasters. he's better then Donald 'clean coal' "COAL" 'I donated my salary, all good' Trump when it comes to the environment Obamas hand was very forced to keep drilling and polluting due to tech at the time and other factors. Donnie has a chance but idk if he'll do it, he's involved with some sketchy oil companies (EXXON) and *whispers* russia Geez I agree with everything you post on here :) |
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| The push back against Global Warming comes from Oil / Coal / Etc. industries, and has nothing to do with science. Too be frank, the fact America prioritizes energy sources that makes the US dependent on foreign countries, as opposed to clean energy sources that generate jobs / revenue within the country just further highlights how hypocritical Trump is when he says "America first". However, and this little factoid seems to get lost in the argument of "is Global Warming real", pollution itself is harmful to humans. Pretend for a second Global Warming isn't real - Great, that doesn't change the fact that harmful pollutants produced en masse lead to respiratory complications, cardiovascular problems, and even increase the rate of certain cancers - In fact, in China (the poster child of air pollution), it is estimated about 4,000 people die every day due to air pollution; The BBC covered a report linking 5.5 million deaths world wide to air pollution over the span of a year (primarily from India and China), however this is something that is "very real". - http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35568249 Parts of the US (mainly the South, not kidding, look up life expectancy by state) already have a lower life expectancy than regions like the West Bank, or countries like Mexico; Do you really want to make it even worse? |
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| Global warming has nothing to do with science, it's 100% a political issue |
| Global warming is faker than Melania's tits -most Trump voters |
NudeBear said: Here comes the genius blog scientists and their astounding analysis as to why global warming is not a science (fake science) because the politicized so called scientists are brainwashing the public so they can sate their greed with grant money. Relevant: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Fun:Global_warming_denial_Bingo trying to prove you aren't brainwashed, then posting a "rationalwiki" link lol |
Soverign said: j0x said: im tired of people like Trump saying global warming is not real since its cold where he lives, the fact is the rising heat melts ice everywhere and that brings cold breeze to some parts of the world and will make sea level rise too and rising heat also trigger more evaporation that can bring more rains and powerful storm and on some unlucky parts of the world the rising heat will surely decrease the water supply and kill agriculture that will heavily affect food supply NASA have made this video showing that this recent Climate Change/Global Warming is really man made so i wish at least China, USA, India could lower their CO2 levels more since we here in poor countries do not even contribute much to the rise of CO2 levels anyway since we are hardly heavy industrialize countries like them Oh please. As soon as these small countries have a chance to industrialize, they will. And probably give no fucks. And Trump is right to say what he does, until China acknowledges it gives no fucks about global climate change. Doesn't matter if the United States takes drastic measures only to be undercut by another power. Why should we do the right thing and punish ourselves, while you all reap the short term benefits We have all been on this planet the same amount of time. In 2010, global greenhouse gas emissions from the agricultural sector totaled 4.7 billion tons of carbon dioxide (CO₂) equivalent, up 13 percent over 1990. Agriculture is the third largest contributor to global emissions by sector, following the burning of fossil fuels for power and heat, and transportation. So go nuclear and some any combination of energy conservation with green energy and pray for a better future alternative, that won't give other countries the power to just bathe the planet in nuclear radiation in weaponized form anyways. And pray for a better solution in the future? Cut back on transportation? Cut back on population? Again there are far more people worldwide than there are in the United States. funny when you mention china, when they does have plan do something in the future about that when they starting realize that when they care about environment, it give them profit economically... http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/9/china-may-take-lead-on-fighting-climate-change/ oh, and as well as india, lOl... http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/by-2027-more-than-half-of-india-s-energy-will-be-from-renewable-sources/story-2HbGhRdqzed3dV4Rey1ajL.html |
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NudeBear said: It's okay, you don't have to feign intelligence. I already know you don't have the braincells to make any serious arguments against climate science. I'm sure rationalwiki has provided you with plenty of pro-global warming talking points so you can feel like an enlightened intellectual |
NudeBear said: Thanks for proving my point. : ^ ) The only thing you've proven is that you are a brainless partisan shill |
remember what our current president said?? ouch. i believe global warming is a thing, anyone would be an idiot to think otherwise, there is evidently enough of a recent increase in temperature in the past decades to indicate that we are, to an extent, eroding away at our atmosphere. it may not be as severe as some estimate, but it's definitely there. Ivich said: I'm sure rationalwiki has provided you with plenty of pro-global warming talking points so you can feel like an enlightened intellectual i'm sure you think being a member of an ugly, poorly formatted site that worships a dead regime that was defeated in WWII makes you feel like an ""educated"" individual, but you aren't one. |
NudeBear said: Why are you getting triggered over a light-hearted joke from rationalwiki? Is it because the bingo describes you well? Come on, show the brainless partisan shill NudeBear why climate science is fake science. : ^ ) I never tried to disprove climate change, it's a total non-issue. And if rationalwiki is a joke, it's the least funny one i've ever heard. Probably the most humorless circlejerk site on the internet |
spuukiebuugi said: Of course he did, what is even worse is he probably believes it to be true as well but he is bought and paid for by the Oil Lobby (half of his cabinet are oil tycoons / oil lobbyists). remember what our current president said lmao It's ironic when people say scientists pushing for Global Warming have some kind of agenda, when on the other side you have the oil lobby - one of the most corrupt industries in America. |
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NudeBear said: So you're already retracting your statements? Global warming has nothing to do with science, it's 100% a political issue Or am i misinterpreting it? If so, why did the bingo trigger you so much? It almost seems like you felt personally attacked. : ^ ) I said it's a 100% political issue, so why would i try to debate the "science" behind global warming with someone who only believes in it for partisan reasons? |
| Its funny because even the people who initially politicized Global Warming admitted to not only spending millions to spread the notion global warming was a hoax, but also had stumbled on the likelihood of Global Warming years before the issue was even publicized. Just look at Exxon Mobile (And again, yes, our Secretary of State was a former head of the company) |
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Kuma said: funny when you mention china, when they does have plan do something in the future about that when they starting realize that when they care about environment, it give them profit economically... http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/9/china-may-take-lead-on-fighting-climate-change/ oh, and as well as india, lOl... http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/by-2027-more-than-half-of-india-s-energy-will-be-from-renewable-sources/story-2HbGhRdqzed3dV4Rey1ajL.html And this hurts me how? Since they literally just outlined a 50 year old US plan. Nuclear, hydro, wind (where applicable), carbon emission reduction for vehicles, fuel economy, eventual shift from petroleum. But only after entire cities was covered in smog here and there. XD |
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Soverign said: Kuma said: funny when you mention china, when they does have plan do something in the future about that when they starting realize that when they care about environment, it give them profit economically... http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/9/china-may-take-lead-on-fighting-climate-change/ oh, and as well as india, lOl... http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/by-2027-more-than-half-of-india-s-energy-will-be-from-renewable-sources/story-2HbGhRdqzed3dV4Rey1ajL.html And this hurts me how? Since they literally just outlined a 50 year old US plan. Nuclear, hydro, wind (where applicable), carbon emission reduction for vehicles, fuel economy, eventual shift from petroleum. But only after entire cities was covered in smog here and there. XD exactly.. so, do you really want to take path china eve?r take? are you really that retard? |
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Soverign said: And this hurts me how? Since they literally just outlined a 50 year old US plan. Nuclear, hydro, wind (where applicable), carbon emission reduction for vehicles, fuel economy, eventual shift from petroleum. But only after entire cities was covered in smog here and there. XD interesting point but look where the 50 year plan got US, if the Chinese can accomplish that faster (they have cheaper labor) however it depends on if we can improve as well. China's smog is bad but US cities were similar in the 70s, their population density is also insane. |
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Kuma said: [ exactly.. so, do you really want to take path china eve?r take? are you really that retard? Obviously, since I thought about what was going to happen 50 years ago. I mean, I totally want to put huge swaths of the labor force out of employment with no real plan to reintegrate them, except to put them in a few thousand dollars worth of debt to get a business degree or a philosophy degree. |
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Soverign said: Kuma said: [ exactly.. so, do you really want to take path china eve?r take? are you really that retard? Obviously, since I thought about what was going to happen 50 years ago. I mean, I totally want to put huge swaths of the labor force out of employment with no real plan to reintegrate them, except to put them in a few thousand dollars worth of debt to get a business degree or a philosophy degree. that's US problem tho.. that has nothing to do with china... china didn't even understood the concept of collague debt... |
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Kuma said: Soverign said: Obviously, since I thought about what was going to happen 50 years ago. I mean, I totally want to put huge swaths of the labor force out of employment with no real plan to reintegrate them, except to put them in a few thousand dollars worth of debt to get a business degree or a philosophy degree. that's US problem tho.. that has nothing to do with china... china didn't even understood the concept of collague debt... I wish I could run over my protesting college students with tanks... fuckin China gets to have all the fun! D: |
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