Fullmetal Alchemist
| I don't agree with practically any of the points you made. The characters are indeed drawn nicely, and there are many unique designs. "Quality of picture" wat. The animation is very good, and above most of what you see in general, in regards to other series. The storyline isn't anything ultra amazing special, but enjoyable regardless. I'd say it really starts to kick off around episode 4/5, when they begin to encounter the homunculi, with this being said, the mid-later episodes are some of its best, so I wouldn't drop it so early. |
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Astaroth_F said: Thanks. But for me, the quality of picture is still below Akame Ga Kill, Magi and Nanatsu no Taizai. Still watchable. I like anime with great consistency and unpredictable storyline. Seems like FMA-B fits this description. Fairy Tail is off the mark. So, I may consider to continue it. Thank you again. How can you rate an entire 64 episode anime, when you've only seen 5 episodes..? |
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| so 3 of your points just say you don't like the way it looks. and you last point says you don't like the story based on the first 5 episodes of an anime that 64. And your talking about it as though the only interesting part of the anime is how cool the alchemists powers are? I think you should give it a bit more of a chance. |
| one can't say what will hook someone into a show since we all look for different things in shows all I can really do is post a opening showing later events in the show and you can make the decision to keep watching if you see anything that interests you in the OP |
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| First of all, you're an idiot. Second, stop watching anime because they're popular,that's a really bad habit. Why is FMAB not only popular but also good? Because of its story, characters, themes, soundtrack, and everything else in between. And don't judge a 64 Episode anime in 5 episodes. Nothing bad is going to happen if you don't watch FMAB. Except you'll miss out on watching one of the best stories in anime. Ever. |
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Astaroth_F said: Lord_Lamington said: so 3 of your points just say you don't like the way it looks. and you last point says you don't like the story based on the first 5 episodes of an anime that 64. And your talking about it as though the only interesting part of the anime is how cool the alchemists powers are? I think you should give it a bit more of a chance. That's why I asked what is great about and at which episodes it will be great. I am open to to continue it again. You can;t blame me. The first impression matters. I definitely agree with you that first impression matters, I've dropped shows on the first episode before. from memory I started to get into it a lot more after around episode 12. in my opinion it has a great story. And more good characters get introduced later. But it's up to you whether you wanna continue watching it or not. |
| I agree with you in that the first few episodes of Brotherhood aren't very impressive. It's not until episode 10 or so that you'll start to see any good action or characters. That's one of the reasons I prefer the original 2003 version of Fullmetal Alchemist. The early episodes are much more engaging and show more character development, while not progressing the story as much. Maybe give it a try instead. The 2003 version has a slower pacing, darker atmosphere and more character focus. The Brotherhood version is fast paced, story oriented and much more shonen-like. Choose which one is best for you. |
AnotherGuyApr 15, 2017 8:58 PM
| It's just one of the best adaptations ever made. You really can't get more faithful than FMA:B. The series is just solid all around from its characters, to its main story and sub plots that all wrap up neatly towards the end. |
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| Leave the man alone. We all have our own perspectives and takes on anime. He's just giving his own opinion. :) |
| Try to watch the old FMA and FMA Brotherhood, then compare. Then read the original manga of FMA. |
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| I personally rated FMA with a 9 or 10. It has all the nice things I seek in an anime - action, character development, some kind of sci-fi, fantasy element or science fantasy element or steam punk or supernatural, some plot twists, consistency, a moral/message to tell, etc. The animation for me was fluid enough to like. The character design style is decent enough for me to like. If this show looked like some kind of shoujo art, I'd have been sad. I certainly don't want a bishoujonen main character or even side characters. Now, based on your preference for Fairy Tail over FMA, I might be correct to assume you like your anime upbeat. Well, FMA Brotherhood is NOT upbeat. It's pretty tragic/sad at some parts. The overall TONE of the series is kinda serious. I personally like it that way, but you might not. |
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Astaroth_F said: Sadly to say, the first 5 episodes of Fairy Tail are more enjoyable than the first 5 of FMA-B, even FT is criticised for nakama bullshit and inconsistency, but at least, FT promised that there are great adventures ahead. More like it promises there are great bullshits and horrible asspulls ahead |
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| Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood, I think is not a great anime but masterpiece. The best anime ever made. This anime has 64 episodes, not divided into several seasons. So, you can't rate this anime like that just by watching 5 episodes. First of all the the voice cast were chosen to perfection every voice portrays the character as who the were meant to be. Japanese much better than english dub. Secondly The Storyline was so well written compared to the first series. story flows wonderfully as we witness the journey the characters take and the many twists and turns that occur. This series made me laugh out loud, cry and bring up pretty much every part of human emotion possible Characterization was also excellent. once again I will mention the voices but also the way characters interact with the complex guidelines of the world they inhabit. And lastly the animation is very fluid no cheap faraway shots where the characters are talking but not moving which is used commonly(see Neon Genesis Evangalion). I will finish by saying that if you are going to watch one anime in the entirety of your life time Choose Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood. |
| Studio Bones. Mediocre animation. Kek |
| What FMAB does really well imo, better than any other series I've watched was its ability to hook the audience. I've watched decent actions shows like HxH, but none have really made me badly want to watch the next one as much as FMAB. In fact I remember watching like 10 eps per sitting when I watched it the first time. For FMAB, ignore superficial things like popularity, reputation, or the quality of animation and simply enjoy the joyride. And yes Fairy Tail is shit. |
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Astaroth_F said: SongstressSL said: I personally rated FMA with a 9 or 10. It has all the nice things I seek in an anime - action, character development, some kind of sci-fi, fantasy element or science fantasy element or steam punk or supernatural, some plot twists, consistency, a moral/message to tell, etc. The animation for me was fluid enough to like. The character design style is decent enough for me to like. If this show looked like some kind of shoujo art, I'd have been sad. I certainly don't want a bishoujonen main character or even side characters. Now, based on your preference for Fairy Tail over FMA, I might be correct to assume you like your anime upbeat. Well, FMA Brotherhood is NOT upbeat. It's pretty tragic/sad at some parts. The overall TONE of the series is kinda serious. I personally like it that way, but you might not. I really like Magi although I don't think it was upbeat. I like Fairy Tail for around the first 40 episodes because it was a combination of upbeat, tragic and action. After that, it became so predictable and plague with inconsitency. I prefer the series which is unpredictable and consistent at the same time. Since you guys give the assurance of it. I think it's worth to give it a try. Perhaps I was too hasty in my judgement. Anyway, tqvm :) I encourage you to try it one more time. If it turns out it isn't your cup of tea, don't sweat it just because other people liked it. If there's one good trait humans have, it's diversity - we are free to have our individual opinions. For example, there are people who genuinely thought Macross Delta is a good show and liked the characters. I watched the whole series to the end and thought it's Macross's worst modern entry (if not worst ever entry); it even wins the grand prize for poorest characterization in anime amongst shows I've watched in recent years, lol. |
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| It's a series that appeals to just about every crowd with a likable cast of characters, an intriguing plot, some interesting themes, hype moments, and very few glaring flaws if at all (and not as controversial as the 2003 adaptation). I don't regard it as highly as I did when I was in high school or think it's even the best Shonen but it's still a pretty solid watch. AntwanMantilla said: You really can't get more faithful than FMA:B Everything before Ling's introduction is pretty rushed. |
Astaroth_F said: Thanks. But for me, the quality of picture is still below Akame Ga Kill, Magi and Nanatsu no Taizai. Still watchable. I like anime with great consistency and unpredictable storyline. Seems like FMA-B fits this description. Fairy Tail is off the mark. So, I may consider to continue it. Thank you again. Ok, 3 out of 4 of your points from your first post is about the visual quality. Can't you be a bit more considerate? You're comparing the quality FMA:B which was aired on 2009 to that of Magi, AgK and NnT which were aired during 2012 and 2014. What do you expect? Here, I'll tell you my experience. I've watched those three (Magi, AgK, NnT) earlier than last year. As for this year, the most recent series I've finished is FMA:B. If I'll compare those four series, I enjoyed watching FMA:B the most. Not that it would also apply to you, but here are my reasons: 1 - Density of the story. Every little thing is a part of a bigger picture. That's what I like in NnT too. Each episode fulfills their role as a piece to a puzzle. 2 - Pacing. Not too slow, not too fast. Everything had enough time to be executed. And every character has decent screen and backstory time. 3 - Badass characters. You said that within 5 episodes, you hadn't seen any of these. I think that's understandable because of its pacing. And for a shounen genre (which typically has lots of surprise characters in the middle to end), I don't think they'll give you their bests at the start. Some of the badass characters aren't alchemists to start with You're counting the alchemists which have been introduced already, but the story won't just revolve around them. 4 - A very good and faithful adaptation. If only AkG's adaptation is faithful, man, I don't think I'd hate it. That's all, mate. I hope you'll finish it. It's still up to you though. |
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| The thing is, you came into FMAB expecting pure rule-of-cool, unadultarated badassery. But FMAB doesn't roll that way. Granted, it does have several moments that'll make you go "aaaaah shit son" but the primary aspect that makes it so appealing to most people is the spiritual journey the characters go through. These people feel "real". They aren't your picture perfect shonen heroes a la Natsu and Goku There's also a great sense of consistency/continuity throughout. No plot thread is left dangling and several key plot moments are foreshadowed episodes prior. |
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| 1 - fair enough, it's just a matter of taste. Personally i'm ok with it, the characters are easy to recognize. 2 - maybe i'm stupid but i don't get what you mean with "quality of picture". 3 - i guess we have watched different shows, maybe you should stick to high budget animation movies. 4 - After watching only 5 episodes out of 64 i don't know what you expected. It's like reading the first 50 pages of LOTR and claiming the storyline is nothing special. |
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| Character design is bad I agree, but the rest? Art quality is really high, Hand drawn backgrounds are epic. Animation is really nice too, in key points. Generally the visual side is probably the strongest point of this series. 5/10 for me, because it was totally uninteresting for me and the humour was just plain bad - it literally destroyed this anime. |
rsc-plApr 16, 2017 2:53 AM
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| Nothing really, its just that every weab mainstream anime watcher with DN, SNK, and Code Geass in fav. is thinking it is the best anime ever. just another shounen bullshit. |
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| It's one of a kind... that no other shounen shows (Except.. Gintama, HxH) could surpassed the full potential of this series... |
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kamalashki said: why do u think a faithful adaptation is a good thing? Well, ok. Maybe I shouldn't have listed it down as a good reason why the anime is good. I'll retract what I said. It's not that a faithful adaptation is automatically a good thing for everyone. But let's face it, for most of the manga fans, that's the best option to go. It's primarily because manga fans watch the anime adaptation mainly to see it in action. kamalashki said: would u rather end it with a cliffhanger and have hopes for season 2 which they will never release or end it in a satisfying way and say meh its ok and carry on to next anime? Personally, yes, I would rather wait for a sequel. If no sequel comes, it's fine. Then I'll just continue reading the source. However, if one wishes to finish the anime even if the source is still on going, it's fine... As long as it's a good one. I have yet to watch the FMA 2003, some say it's still good even though it's not the same as the manga. Let's take a look at Akame ga Kill. Actually, I haven't read the manga yet. When I started watching the series, all I know is that it will have an anime-only ending. Even though I haven't seen the source, I already figured out which episode they started to deviate from the manga... And that's mainly because of the downgrade in the storyline. Sometimes, they feel very rushed too. kamalashki said: #u cant cure stupid people Please refrain from calling other people stupid just because their opinions go against yours. Or at least wait for my answers to your questions so that you can evaluate me well if I'm really stupid. |
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| Well if you're curious maybe you should actually watch the rest and find out. Suffice it to say that it's a good show all around that covers all it's bases. |
KruszerApr 16, 2017 4:35 AM
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| So in your opinion, great anime are anime that have good visual and badass characters? In that case The irregular at magic high school and Aldnoah.Zero are great anime! |
anhthuongemsongApr 16, 2017 5:00 AM
| 1. Unique art, not typical but far cry from ugly 2. Quality of picture? What? 3. Animation is one of the best I've seen for a long TV series. 4. 5 episodes in and you expect to understand everything about a 60+ episode series. Your whole argument is based on your disdain for the art. I don't think you should continue watching until you get out of your puberty. The first two episodes are fillers by the way. OK, I just read your other comments, how is it possible for you to claim that FMAB looks worse than Akame ga Kill, Magi, and Nanatsu no Taizai? Each of those series have huge, huge animation flaw that even someone not nitpicky like me could pinpoint. I can only conclude that at this point, you're talking about the art and not animation. You just don't like the art, don't have to force yourself to watch it you know. I didn't like Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood too the first time I watched it, it wasn't until 4 or 5 years later where I give it another try and get to like the series. Never force yourself when you watch an anime. |
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| Like some others are posting, the first season of brotherhood is a rushed version of the canon of the original series. Once you finish the majority of the first series, around episode 10, things will turn up. One thing I can say about brotherhood, is that each season is better than the last. |
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| What's good in FMAB? Easy: The last 20 episodes. What is bad? The other episodes and the ending. |
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Astaroth_F said: anhthuongemsong said: So in your opinion, great anime are anime that have good visual and badass characters? In that case The irregular at magic high school and Aldnoah.Zero are great anime! Not necessarily. But visual do help a lot. Take OnePunch Man for example, IMO the manga are not that good, but turns out great in anime, because of good visual. While people say Dragon Ball is one of the greatest anime, not many will watch it nowadays because of old graphic. ToG25thBaam said: 1. Unique art, not typical but far cry from ugly 2. Quality of picture? What? 3. Animation is one of the best I've seen for a long TV series. 4. 5 episodes in and you expect to understand everything about a 60+ episode series. Your whole argument is based on your disdain for the art. I don't think you should continue watching until you get out of your puberty. The first two episodes are fillers by the way. OK, I just read your other comments, how is it possible for you to claim that FMAB looks worse than Akame ga Kill, Magi, and Nanatsu no Taizai? Each of those series have huge, huge animation flaw that even someone not nitpicky like me could pinpoint. I can only conclude that at this point, you're talking about the art and not animation. You just don't like the art, don't have to force yourself to watch it you know. I didn't like Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood too the first time I watched it, it wasn't until 4 or 5 years later where I give it another try and get to like the series. Never force yourself when you watch an anime. My whole argument is not all about art. Number 1 to 3 probably constitutes only about 40%. The rest are mainly because I failed to find the pace of the anime. Yes it's art, not the animation. Never thought it could be broken down separately, but you're right anyway. Did not noticed that there was animation flaw in those series. I just thought the movement is great. Jixte said: I can see where your coming from with your opinion, when I was trying to get my friend into it he had a similar opinion at the start and wasn't a fan of the art style or animation. Its the storyline that he ended up loving, I would recommend pushing through, a lot of people say the first 10 episodes are weak and lacking but once it gets more deeper into the storyline later and the characters develop you might end up loving it like my friend did ^^ I find most people say its the last 10 episodes that really wins you over anime-prime said: Like some others are posting, the first season of brotherhood is a rushed version of the canon of the original series. Once you finish the majority of the first series, around episode 10, things will turn up. One thing I can say about brotherhood, is that each season is better than the last. Thanks. Will give it a try. Takamura-sama said: What's good in FMAB? Easy: The last 20 episodes. What is bad? The other episodes and the ending. Does that mean I should start from the last 20? No, If I were you I wouldn't start it. You would be completely lost if you started then. I personally didn't like the start that much. Check out my list and check my scores compared to your scores. If we have somewhat same taste don't watch it if it differs a lot watch it. |
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| As someone who has seen the Original FMA, i thinkt he bor version is a knock off of the oringinal made to appeal to shounen fans :p |
| The fact that your main complaints are "Characters aren´t badass or handsome enough" and "It isn´t drawn good enough" makes me think you don´t get this anime in the slightest. I don´t even agree with these points in the slightest. |
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Astaroth_F said: It's definitely the art, I mean, if I dislike one part of a show, the rest won't appear to be as good as it is. If Magi, Nanatsu no Taizai, or Akame ga Kill has the art of FMAB, it won't look as appetizing as it would. 5 episodes would feel like 20 if you have a certain bias against it before you even watch it.My whole argument is not all about art. Number 1 to 3 probably constitutes only about 40%. The rest are mainly because I failed to find the pace of the anime. Yes it's art, not the animation. Never thought it could be broken down separately, but you're right anyway. Did not noticed that there was animation flaw in those series. I just thought the movement is great. From Magi, there was the 3 fps infamous staircase scene. Can't recall any specific scenes from NnT and AgK right now but I do remember some complaints from the fanbase back when I was watching the show. |
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