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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I'm getting somewhat of an experimental feel from this show now. The theories about the powers particular with reset.. Kei is pretty intuitive on this case involving a little girl named Mari and her mother. I think in ways, this episode shows that he is intelligent and doesn't hesitate to get the truth. Thanks to his powers to remember the past, Kei can be quite damn useful on cases like in this episode. Somehow, I think we'll see Sumire again even though the news reported her as dead and the time skip. |
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| Oh, no at the end of the junior high time. Is that why 1/3 and 2/3 are used while there's no third part of the arc? |
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| I can already tell that this series is gonna deal with a lot of messed up situations and that alone has me excited lol But that last part was pretty tragic for all 3 of the main characters involved.....That was pretty unfortunate for me to watch happen though and I must say that I didn't expect that girl to die (Or the 2 year timeskip) But it looks like now is where the real synopsis starts, and based off of how our two MC's operated in this episode, I think it's gonna be pretty interesting to see them tackle other situations like the one with that poor little girl |
| This episode was definitely better than the first and it wasn't half bad but the presentation still feels a little lacking, perhaps that's why I wasn't too impressed. It was pretty cool to see how Kei used everyone's powers to save Mari. The part where Mari says she loves her Mom and wants to live with her was really emotional. I was pretty surprised that scene actually got me since most of the time the presentation of the show feels a little emotionless. Totally did not expect Sumire's death, it came out of nowhere and I actually find the conversations she has with Kei interesting at times. Though I don't see why they couldn't have reset? Isn't the cooldown on Haruki's ability only day and she can reset to 3 days in the past, so why couldn't they have just waited a day and then reset? There was definitely a save point as well since they reset before this event happened. 2 year time skip now. I prefer Haruki with longer hair. :P |
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| Well, talk about a substantial improvement compared to the first episode. Sure, the presentation still isn't exactly exciting, but as I had hoped the narrative was able to shine through regardless, and to be fair there was some improvement on the presentation front anyway. Also, it caught me by surprise how sad I was about Soma's death - despite it being very abrupt - and the fact that they couldn't do anything about it seeing as Haruki had already reset. In fact, that only made it more painful considering things were fine first time around and she only reset at all cos Kei told her to, and as he admitted that was for a massively trivial reason. Also, this seems a fairly conclusive end to this particular arc, so why is it only part 2 of 3? |
Atavistic said: Also, this seems a fairly conclusive end to this particular arc, so why is it only part 2 of 3? I'm not sure why, but I get the feeling that later on in the series it'll go back and show 3/3. Maybe from Soma's perspective? Who knows. But that's what I'm thinking will happen. |
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| haha, I guess that will teach them to use their ablities a little more carefully. |
Brynhild said: I didn't even think of that.....Good idea thereAtavistic said: Also, this seems a fairly conclusive end to this particular arc, so why is it only part 2 of 3? I'm not sure why, but I get the feeling that later on in the series it'll go back and show 3/3. Maybe from Soma's perspective? Who knows. But that's what I'm thinking will happen. |
| Misora crying :( Souma Sumire's death came totally from behind the bush to me... Really nice anime so far though. |
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| Way better than the first episode. im abit excited for what is to come. |
| "Difficult" talk, in front of a crying children. No wonder she'll scream like that. Can't Kei at least talk in person with that "Bureau" man a bit far from the girl? Whoa, that news about Soma... I gotta say that's a perfect timing. |
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| I wasn't expecting that ending with Soma's death and it's a shame that they can't do anything about it to change the situation. I also found this episode better than the first so hopefully it stays that way going forward. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. |
| Those who don't expect Soma's death, just watch the end of the first episode, we saw her jumping out of a wood bridge. ( idk of you'll check this thread back so hi @Tokoya @Lelouch0202 @Atavistic @skyUFO @Mascera @thebrentinator24) Using different abilities to get through their goal is enjoyable, a veritable demonstration of tactics are showed. Kinda remind me Uprising Arc from Guilty Crown when their check everyone ability. This guy of the ' Bureau ' pretty remind me posseded Sensei in Kokoro Connect, hoping he'll get more alive, else he'll become a bit of boring character. To end it, long hair was master race, I'm feeling betrayed by this show. The lack of 3/3 will probably come later with Soma ' suicide ' perspective. |
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Imbalanced said: Those who don't expect Soma's death, just watch the end of the first episode, we saw her jumping out of a wood bridge. ( idk of you'll check this thread back so hi @Tokoya @Lelouch0202 @Atavistic @skyUFO @Mascera @thebrentinator24) Oh yes, I totally remember that scene. I was wondering what that whole thing was about. Can't believe I totally missed the connection. Thanks man. :) |
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| that episode was so much better than the first... definitely made me want to see this series through to the end |
Imbalanced said: I remember that scene.....I just figured that it was something that would have gotten reset but what surprised me is that it's fixed in time now (Supposedly)Those who don't expect Soma's death, just watch the end of the first episode, we saw her jumping out of a wood bridge. ( idk of you'll check this thread back so hi @Tokoya @Lelouch0202 @Atavistic @skyUFO @Mascera @thebrentinator24) Using different abilities to get through their goal is enjoyable, a veritable demonstration of tactics are showed. Kinda remind me Uprising Arc from Guilty Crown when their check everyone ability. This guy of the ' Bureau ' pretty remind me posseded Sensei in Kokoro Connect, hoping he'll get more alive, else he'll become a bit of boring character. To end it, long hair was master race, I'm feeling betrayed by this show. The lack of 3/3 will probably come later with Soma ' suicide ' perspective. |
| There's a method to madness, I think (I hope). First episode doesn't seem as bad now that I think about it. (This is why you shouldn't drop shows after one episode). |
| mmmh i don't know. the show trys to hard to be deep and dramatic - feels a bit forced. |
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| See, i don't believe that Sumire is gone, there are way too many abilities and continuous info dumps that this didn't shock me. Just stop with the info dumps and overbearing philosophy. This episode was better than the first but that wasn't hard, it's still not good. |
Imbalanced said: Those who don't expect Soma's death, just watch the end of the first episode, we saw her jumping out of a wood bridge. ( idk of you'll check this thread back so hi @Tokoya @Lelouch0202 @Atavistic @skyUFO @Mascera @thebrentinator24) Using different abilities to get through their goal is enjoyable, a veritable demonstration of tactics are showed. Kinda remind me Uprising Arc from Guilty Crown when their check everyone ability. This guy of the ' Bureau ' pretty remind me posseded Sensei in Kokoro Connect, hoping he'll get more alive, else he'll become a bit of boring character. To end it, long hair was master race, I'm feeling betrayed by this show. The lack of 3/3 will probably come later with Soma ' suicide ' perspective. Oh yeah I remember that part. For some reason though, I thought it was Mari, not Soma. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. |
| not bad not bad, let's see what's next They should have merge the 2 first episodes imo because the first one was really weak |
| I don't understand 2 things in this episode. 1- How they still convinced the 'ability-transfer guy' to cooperate, if they erased time to where the message of the bureau guy wasn't 'emailed' to him? 2- FOR FUCKS SAKE, how they can't erase time to a 3rd time to save their friend if they fucking had do it in the same episode? (After they got the ability-transfer guuy to cooperate). |
| too slow paced or is it just me or are the characters to unemotional... maye I have come to a phase where I am going against what I stand for... |
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Imbalanced said: Oh yeah, that one. But that's just make me more confused. Those who don't expect Soma's death, just watch the end of the first episode, we saw her jumping out of a wood bridge. ( idk of you'll check this thread back so hi @Tokoya @Lelouch0202 @Atavistic @skyUFO @Mascera @thebrentinator24) |
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| too slow paced or is it just me or are the characters to unemotional... maye I have come to a phase where I am going against what I stand for... |
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| Huh, that was... quite confusing, but fairly interesting I guess. I liked the way they used their abilities to solve the problem together, Kei seems like a pretty analytical person to have been able to come up with that plan so quickly. So did he lie to the Bureau guy about his friend's ability so he wouldn't suspect his words would be transmitted? It confused me at first, but that's quite clever. And despite the Mari Kurakawa 'arc' being quite quick, it was still quite heartwarming to see it resolved. The 'Three Laws of Robotics' thing was pretty interesting to me, that she chose her 'zeroth law' as putting a huge amount of trust into Kei, whereas the actual zeroth law is to do with the preservation of humanity. Not sure how I feel about their relationship, the way Kei experiments with it and analyses their feelings is pretty strange. Hopefully that gets expanded on later. I'm also a little confused about whether the reset actually caused Sumire's death or whether he just hadn't realised the first time round, but since she didn't call him after the reset I guess it was because of that. Presumably it's something to do with her ability, which (unless I missed it) we don't know of, so I guess that'll get explained in 3/3. Also for some reason I only noticed this in the middle of the episode, but no OP. Reminds me of Shinsekai yori, which I guess similarly also had a lot of philosophical themes. An OP is listed, though, so I guess this is just for the backstory arc. Not having an OP worked quite well so far though, I think. |
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| Wow, what a great episode. Shit got intense constantly! I wonder if Soma's ability had something to do to counteract both Kei and Haruki. After episode 1 Soma definitely killed herself but what if she doing it whenever time was being reset and she was aware of it? We never did find out Soma's ability. Maybe she was an Android in the end? A lot of questions need to be answered and yet we are throwing two years into the future lol. |
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| Pretty boring episode. It was slightly better than the first one at least. It was nice of Kei to use everyone's abilities to save Mari. He even cut himself. Too bad I didn't feel any emotional impact for her. I just didn't care. Haruki looks okay with short hair. She looks better with long hair though. It's pretty sad Sumire killed herself. Now Haruki can't reset to bring her back. Oh well. I didn't care about her either. |
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| Damn! It's 1:49 am and I'am watching this while some people are fighting outside at our house and I think they are in groups and I heard some glass breaking and I think I'll get a nervous breakdown. :/ |
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| Souma's death was very weird... techinally, people shoulsn't change their behvaior unless they can remember what happened. soemthing is a bit off here. It's just too sad she died. Even if she didn't have much time screen, I still liked her. Make me feel like beating Kei. |
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Imbalanced said: Those who don't expect Soma's death, just watch the end of the first episode, we saw her jumping out of a wood bridge. ( idk of you'll check this thread back so hi @Tokoya @Lelouch0202 @Atavistic @skyUFO @Mascera @thebrentinator24) Using different abilities to get through their goal is enjoyable, a veritable demonstration of tactics are showed. Kinda remind me Uprising Arc from Guilty Crown when their check everyone ability. This guy of the ' Bureau ' pretty remind me posseded Sensei in Kokoro Connect, hoping he'll get more alive, else he'll become a bit of boring character. To end it, long hair was master race, I'm feeling betrayed by this show. The lack of 3/3 will probably come later with Soma ' suicide ' perspective. Honestly, I thought the woman we saw jumping was supposed to be Mari's mother, considering the scenes focusing on her just before that. Also, they said this episode that Soma presumably slipped and fell while hiking in the rain, although suicide does seem more likely when taking the bridge scene into account, especially considering the fact that the bridge looked like it was in the mountains too. |
| whoa so much happend in this episode. When Mari said she loved her mom, that part pierced my heart as I wasn't ready for that. It was too emotional. Sumire's death was unexpected. Imbalanced said: Those who don't expect Soma's death, just watch the end of the first episode, we saw her jumping out of a wood bridge. . I though that was Mari's mother for some reason. DarkSaga0 said: I don't understand 2 things in this episode. 1- How they still convinced the 'ability-transfer guy' to cooperate, if they erased time to where the message of the bureau guy wasn't 'emailed' to him? Yeah that didn't make sense to me as well. DarkSaga0 said: 2- FOR FUCKS SAKE, how they can't erase time to a 3rd time to save their friend if they fucking had do it in the same episode? (After they got the ability-transfer guuy to cooperate). Didn't Misora's ability had some limit. I think one of them was that after a reset she has to wait like 72 hours or something. Not entirely sure about that though. |
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15poundfish said: DarkSaga0 said: Kei screwed up by practicing first kiss reactions with Haruki. You have to be careful with your save states.2- FOR FUCKS SAKE, how they can't erase time to a 3rd time to save their friend if they fucking had do it in the same episode? (After they got the ability-transfer guuy to cooperate). Ok, but why they can't reset again? Save states vanish after a reset? If so, how can they reset again to the 3rd time after they got the ability-transfer guy to cooperate? |
| It is NOT 10/10 but i think it will be emotional af. Plot twist at the end in the right moment. |
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Imbalanced said: i totally forgot about the bridge scene :0 do we not know what soma's ability is??? i hope to see her suicide perspective tho!! i think that she definitely loved kei. and kei sucks for telling haruki to cut her hair, she's still cute but kei isn't as righteous as everyone thinks. he seems pretentious and invasive, idk maybe i'll warm up to him.Those who don't expect Soma's death, just watch the end of the first episode, we saw her jumping out of a wood bridge. ( idk of you'll check this thread back so hi @Tokoya @Lelouch0202 @Atavistic @skyUFO @Mascera @thebrentinator24) Using different abilities to get through their goal is enjoyable, a veritable demonstration of tactics are showed. Kinda remind me Uprising Arc from Guilty Crown when their check everyone ability. This guy of the ' Bureau ' pretty remind me posseded Sensei in Kokoro Connect, hoping he'll get more alive, else he'll become a bit of boring character. To end it, long hair was master race, I'm feeling betrayed by this show. The lack of 3/3 will probably come later with Soma ' suicide ' perspective. |
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| Better than the first episode, but damn, now we're suddenly 2 years farther. Not sure what to say about Sumire's death, but I bet it'll come back later again. |
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DarkSaga0 said: I don't understand 2 things in this episode. 1- How they still convinced the 'ability-transfer guy' to cooperate, if they erased time to where the message of the bureau guy wasn't 'emailed' to him? 2- FOR FUCKS SAKE, how they can't erase time to a 3rd time to save their friend if they fucking had do it in the same episode? (After they got the ability-transfer guuy to cooperate). 1 - Seem like he can record messages then send them, and the messages which have been recorded are not affected by Haruki's reset (just like Kei's memories). Even Tomoki didnt remember it at all, the message still existed. 2 - Haruki had resetted 1 time, and (I think) hadnt saved since then. The save point can only be used 1 and 1 time only, so they really did waste that save point, and couldnt go back to save Sumire. I'm pretty sure the one who jumped off the bridge at the end of ep1 is definitely Sumire. The dress, umbrella and especially the eyes and hair color matched her. I find Sumire's situation is absolutely odd. Maybe Haruki cant revert death, and Sumire had died at the end of first timeline, which explains why she didnt show up in second timeline? Or she were not affected by reset, and simply didnt want to repeat a second goodbye? That would explain why she kinda not suprised at all when Kei found her out at the stairs (she seemed kinda waiting for him to me). Both her case and identity are full of mist. And also the 2/3 stuff, I cant wait to see part 3. |
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| When you waste a reset on a kissing prank and the girl that wants your D dies kek DarkSaga0 said: 15poundfish said: Kei screwed up by practicing first kiss reactions with Haruki. You have to be careful with your save states. Ok, but why they can't reset again? Save states vanish after a reset? If so, how can they reset again to the 3rd time after they got the ability-transfer guy to cooperate? Did you even watch the show? They explained the rules, what she can and can't do. I know the show is boring, but they did spell it all out in LN fashion lol. Pretty sure the thing with the "3rd reset" was using a different save state. |
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| I'm guessing Sumire's death is just another way to make Haruki develop emotions, because that seems like Sumire's primary objective with everything she has done so far and her death is prevented or never happened at all due to her power. |
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Jey-nii said: Not exactly sure since Kei's explanation was weird, but it sounded like he was saying they'd discovered Tomoki's message would be heard/remembered by the recipient even after a reset. But either way, Kei could have just showed Sakagami his own memories of Tsushima giving permission, the same way he did with Haruki in the episode. I am confused. As someone else asked previously, how did they get the cooperation of the guy with the transfer ability? I think it was explained but I didn't get it. Then, why did Soma die the second time? I suppose she didn't die the first time, since they would have known about her death. As far as Soma goes, it's simple. Haruki reset at the start of the episode(Saturday the 14th), which continued off where ep 1 left. Soma died that same day, but they never knew about it since they reset for Mari, the reset just happened to save Soma the first time. I think this is why Soma went out to the mountains, so that, in both iterations of her death, it would take time for her body to be found. She was leaving it up to Kei in a way. I'd say she even guided him to prevent her death from being reset the second time, seeing as the reason he had Haruki do the reset after their kiss was because of Soma giving him the idea that he loved her. Considering all this, she's gotta be the android, and there's also no way we don't see her again. |
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| Great episode! Am now fully hooked on this, and i dont care how many people are shitting on it |
| I did not expect that kiss. I did not expect that death. I did not expect that timeskip. Holy shit, I'm loving the whole 'main plotline' they have going here. I'm not sure if I felt even remotely attached to that small 'arc' about the child and the mother though. I can understand that they had about half an episode to flesh it out though so whatever. The visual presentation is perhaps a little lacking, though I'm not going to complain too much. It has some nice shot-composition, and the close-up artwork is pretty enough to look at too - I think the writing makes up a lack of any spectacular visuals at the moment anyway. |
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| The curious thing that's not getting brought up as much (going off of a quick skim of the above posts so apologies if it /had/ been mentioned by someone) is why did Souma's actions change upon being reset. As far as we know, everything should stay the course as per Haruki's abilities of not reverting time per se, but erasing the first run of a timeline and replacing it with the same string of events. The only time events should change would be if Kei influenced it (either directly or through Haruki). Souma called Kei the night before, but not the night following the reset. What could have influenced that change? There's also the question of Souma's fall that we see in the first episode. Was that prior to the reset, or after (since there was no real indication)? *Interestingly, Souma says "sayonara" when saying goodbye to Kei the first time. Sayonara is rarely used for goodbyes unless it was a definitive one, so at the very least it's an indication that Souma was already planning to die that time (assuming of course it /was/ a suicide) Seeing as even outlandish abilities of "creating life" exist in Sagrada, it wouldn't be too far-fetched to assume that Souma also has some sort of ability that transcends, or at the very least, resists Haruki's reset and at the same time almost functions on par with Kei's perfect recall of the past. And then something clicked in my thoughts. Souma says something about not being compatible with Haruki, to a level that "[Kei] wouldn't believe". At first I thought it was a personality thing, which the episode alludes to and even directly addresses. But then I thought about abilities. What ability wouldn't be compatible with being able to relive the past? At the same time, what ability would function similarly to Kei's memory? My guess is Souma can see the future/s to a certain extent. ^And going off the far-end of this theory, Souma doesn't contact Kei the second time because (1) she had affirmed Kei's motivations the first tiime, and (2) she saw the events at the rooftop the next day. |
Leap250Apr 12, 2017 1:52 PM
| "Isn't life, by nature, a contest decided by a single round? However trifling the matter, it's not possible to return to the last save point by pushing some reset button." - Kazuki Hoshino, Hakomari, Vol. 1 |
| This anime is so weird to me. Maybe it is because both protags are so stoic...it is like Haruki is Kei with a wig, because they both are so...dull. Who knows, maybe there is a reason for this. Nigami_Shin said: mmmh i don't know. the show trys to hard to be deep and dramatic - feels a bit forced. Yeeaaaaah, I'm having this same problem. It is overall interesting and all, but...yeah. I've made a timeline just to keep with the resets: Haruki's time travel rules: (not taking into account the ones she made for herself, since she can totally dismiss them if she wants to) She can go back as far as three days. People, her included, lose their memories from the reseting. She can't reset if she didn't save beforehand. The save effect lasts for 72 hours. She can't do another save within 24 hours of a reset. So, she can't reset again within 24 hours of a reset. April 27th - Tuesday Anime begins here. Kei (guy protag) gets a letter from Sumire(class rep). April 28th - Wednesday Kei meets Haruki (girl protag), She sees a girl crying (Mari, the clone girl) and resets. April 27th - Tuesday - Second Time Kei gets a letter from Sumire, but notices something is wrong since he has a dejavu. April 28th - Wednesday - Second Time Kei goes out of his way to meet Sumire and they both meet Haruki at the roof. Haruki tries to reset when she sees Mari crying, but can't do it because of her power's rules. She tries to reset later when she encounters Mari but can't because she didn't save. August 12th - Thursday, 3:15 PM - First time Haruki saves here in case something goes wrong when she remembers her past. August 14th - Saturday Kei meets Haruki and Mari and tells them the real Mari died. Haruki resets after Mari is taken by the Bureau. ??????? There's a scene here that shows Sumire jumping/falling off the bridge. August 12th - Thursday, 3:15 PM - Second time Kei uses the glasses guy to make Haruki remember what will happen in the future. August 13th - Thursday, 8:15 PM - Second time Haruki saves here. Kei cuts himself (WAKE ME UP INSIIIIDE) and make all that drama to make glasses guy to cooperate. Haruki resets. August 13th - Thursday, 8:15 PM - Third time Glass guy somehow remembers (IT IS A MIRACLE YAY). August 14th - Saturday They stop Mari's mother from leaving. August 31st - Tuesday (probably) Sumire goes to hike in the mountains in the rain. September 1st - Wednesday - First time THE AWKWARD KISS. August 31st - Tuesday, 2:45 PM - Second time Haruki has a save file here (lol). Sumire don't talk to Kei before going to hike in the mountains in the rain. September 1st - Wednesday - Second time Sumire is found dead. Haruki asks Kei give her orders to reset (c'mon gurl, just do it) and he says they can't. ~~2 YEARS TIME SKIP~~~ |
taynisApr 13, 2017 6:04 AM
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| this episode was better than last episode (which was pretty ez to do) It's still pretty meh but ill definitly try a little bit more episodes to see if it can get even better. |
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| ong what an intense episode. ... that death |
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