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Apr 18, 2017 10:25 AM
#2851
yurkin said: @Doughkey it was you who said the 4CA thing would be relevant later right?A cult member shouldn't reveal itself with no existing plan for the cult to win at the end. Siding up lols. And what was it 4CA when will this become relevant. |
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Apr 18, 2017 10:32 AM
#2852
Astros said: Doughkey said: It wasn't shady how you and Sleip acted last minute to shift the votes? I was fine with either you or CP being lynched, until the voting at the very end. What reason could you have for waiting so long to vote? What new information did you uncover within the recesses of the threat in that time to change your view? What epiphany flared up in your mind and connected all the dots? Astros left his vote on me while the trains were between Rainy and CP, then tried to throw shade at me for changing my vote to CP since that would be blatantly counter productive to him. He didn't put his vote on Rainy because it would have been indicative of his allignement had CP managed to be lynched. Doughkey said: That would work if I knew who was audacious. My last game was a month or more ago. I didn't even know Penta was a skilled mafia player until yesterday. Though this seems like a strategy you would employ.Nobody has been bringing up Astros because he converted the players who would be audacious enough to accumulate a case on him: CP and Penta. I stated all of my reasons for voting CP with my lynch, summed up it was a 'best of the worst' type deal. Sleip had some really silly timing though and I thought if I called him out to lynch CP, sleip refused, and he flipped, it would be a damn good catch. My entire reason for voting Rainy was self preservation anyway, so if I could put one grain of salt onto the other side of the scale, you best believe that shit would tip. And that really shouldn't be much of a surprise. Now you're just bullshitting me. You have probably played more mafia than me and you are telling me you can't figure out what players are pushovers and which ones are going to avidly scum hunt? Meta Society spouts the shit so it should be obvious. Hell, my last game was in December(?), I didn't know half of this roster, yet I developed accurate tabs on player ability D1. |
Apr 18, 2017 10:37 AM
#2853
logic340 said: yurkin said: @Doughkey it was you who said the 4CA thing would be relevant later right?A cult member shouldn't reveal itself with no existing plan for the cult to win at the end. Siding up lols. And what was it 4CA when will this become relevant. Yee, but it's not applicable yet, i'll reveal what it is next day phase if I don't get converted~ |
Apr 18, 2017 11:02 AM
#2854
Doughkey said: So you voted CP because Sleip came in with a last minute vote? Great reasons. I find that hard to believe over ulterior motives. I stated all of my reasons for voting CP with my lynch, summed up it was a 'best of the worst' type deal. Sleip had some really silly timing though and I thought if I called him out to lynch CP, sleip refused, and he flipped, it would be a damn good catch. My entire reason for voting Rainy was self preservation anyway, so if I could put one grain of salt onto the other side of the scale, you best believe that shit would tip. And that really shouldn't be much of a surprise. Doughkey said: lol, what? You mentioned playing with Grr two years ago. I wasn't even in MS then. If anyone is bullshitting it's you. I don't actively keep tabs on players Meta, I don't play often enough to do so. Now you're just bullshitting me. You have probably played more mafia than me and you are telling me you can't figure out what players are pushovers and which ones are going to avidly scum hunt? Meta Society spouts the shit so it should be obvious. Hell, my last game was in December(?), I didn't know half of this roster, yet I developed accurate tabs on player ability D1. |
Apr 18, 2017 11:04 AM
#2855
logic340 said: That's true, but then what is the truth? If PentaFlare was converted on night 3, then there's a slight possibility that he is a cultist- so I take it back, not the cult leader.He cannot be the cult leader according to RE's check on him night 3 though? So the only option would be Zombie faking cult leader. No votes on Penta besides RE tells me the cult isn't stepping up to say No Penta is lying which tells me he may actually be telling the truth. If he is just a member then who converted him. Astros and Doki seem like the best options but Doki voting Purity off doesn't seem like something the Cult would do if Kit's reports are correct. Also if Doki could have lynched Reiynii (who he thinks is Zombie) over his cult member why wouldn't he? This is why I feel like Doki has to be a Zombie or town at this point (more likely OZ imo). @reiynii you are still under plenty of suspicion for being a zombie do you have anyone you think is cult leader or zombie if it isn't you? You've been reading the interactions back, right? Did anything change between Penta and CPurity throughout day 2 and day 3? If so, then with whom else did his vibe start to swirl? Yes, I'm aware that I am still a suspect but then pointing fingers to a dead end makes no sense, and if Astros is town, then me and him could have been the last 2 town standing. Actually, it makes me think of what role he was before being infected. To be honest, I think the cult leader is Grrr. Although Penta almost surely wasn't cult before night three (and still might be a zombie) he has no reason to ever start suspecting Grrr since he has always been on his side. They play together well apparently and I don't see why he wouldn't stand up for him if it comes to that, as he has already done that as "town" so standing up for him now wouldn't make Grrr anymore suspicious than he really is. |
Apr 18, 2017 11:08 AM
#2856
Astros said: I really don't get the math anymore, it's so confusing! Mind to expound this?Only if what Kit claims is the current Zombie numbers is true. Otherwise town loses by doing that due to OZ. |
Apr 18, 2017 11:14 AM
#2857
Astros said: Doughkey said: So you voted CP because Sleip came in with a last minute vote? Great reasons. I find that hard to believe over ulterior motives. I stated all of my reasons for voting CP with my lynch, summed up it was a 'best of the worst' type deal. Sleip had some really silly timing though and I thought if I called him out to lynch CP, sleip refused, and he flipped, it would be a damn good catch. My entire reason for voting Rainy was self preservation anyway, so if I could put one grain of salt onto the other side of the scale, you best believe that shit would tip. And that really shouldn't be much of a surprise. Doughkey said: lol, what? You mentioned playing with Grr two years ago. I wasn't even in MS then. If anyone is bullshitting it's you. I don't actively keep tabs on players Meta, I don't play often enough to do so. Now you're just bullshitting me. You have probably played more mafia than me and you are telling me you can't figure out what players are pushovers and which ones are going to avidly scum hunt? Meta Society spouts the shit so it should be obvious. Hell, my last game was in December(?), I didn't know half of this roster, yet I developed accurate tabs on player ability D1. Sleip had nothing to do with my reason to vote CP, I voted for CP before Sleipnirr, getting a potential read on sleip was a cherry. As I said, I explained the reason for my vote Here Just because I have played mafia longer than you doesn't mean I have played more games, I have played somewhere around 25~ full forum games not counting live. But I digress, the point being made is that you are competent enough of a player to tell a players ability. Saying you didn't know Penta would be the kind of player to avidly scum hunt until yesterday is silly, he has been proactive the entire game. |
Apr 18, 2017 11:17 AM
#2858
reiynii said: The short and nasty of things is if Kit is OZ and hiding behind a false claim then there's an extra CZ and Infected. That is if Ruu and Rinto weren't infected. I'll get the numbers and make some simple diagrams. I really don't get the math anymore, it's so confusing! Mind to expound this? |
Apr 18, 2017 11:24 AM
#2859
I thought they were a zombie. The rest was to save Purity. |
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Apr 18, 2017 11:26 AM
#2860
reiynii said: PentaFlare said: How do we believe that you are not the cult leader himself saying this because you know you won't be lynched. Plus, going on and on about how bad we need to kill zombies only proves that you are a zombie yourself.Nah. Trust me. I've fought my way out of some really really bad situations, but I know when it isn't worth trying. This is such a situation. This way, I won't be lynched since I'm simply a cult member and not a converter and I won't distract town from finding zombies. If I kept all the attention on me, I would be giving zombies a free pass. Plus, I do think that cults are worse than zombies because even if it ends up being Cult VS Zombies late game, the people from the cult know each other and can work out tactics to confuse and kill zombies, winning themselves the game. Meanwhile zombies don't know each other so they are just like town- if anything, they could go infecting each other back and forth until they're all lynched off. 1 less scum is better anyway. Do you not believe RE saying I wasn't cult with their ability? |
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Apr 18, 2017 11:28 AM
#2861
"rest" HMMMMM SO IT REALLY WAS GRRR |
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Apr 18, 2017 11:31 AM
#2862
PentaFlare said: Just so we keep on the same track, I already expanded on this later in #2856. I do still think that you are a zombie.Do you not believe RE saying I wasn't cult with their ability? |
Apr 18, 2017 11:31 AM
#2863
RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: You are thinking too hard. Are you a cultist yet? You're just setting it up so you can convert me tomorrow. It doesn't make sense that priest can't be converted. edit: Also, how would you know without testing it? Also, for the record: unless there's a hidden mechanic that shields cult leader from a night attack, then PentaFlare can't be cult leader since my hidden active allowed me to me to guess a cult member, and if I was right, they'd die. Something I've noticed as a trend in Astros' behavior: he provides reads on people he knows most likely won't be lynched. First there was that thing with logic. Now it's Kit. By focusing on those kinds of people, he avoids being on trains but still looks productive. Regarding him being infected. If he's lying, idk. But if he's telling the truth, as cult leader (or just cult), he does not have to worry about it. In fact, it's more relieving for cult (and town, I guess) because that means we won't get a new zombie tomorrow. Because we were told we can't convert anyone who already is religious. I'm assuming that is the priest. |
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Apr 18, 2017 11:32 AM
#2864
This is so exciting! ☆ Grrr is getting lynched off ☆ |
Apr 18, 2017 11:41 AM
#2865
reiynii said: PentaFlare said: Just so we keep on the same track, I already expanded on this later in #2856. I do still think that you are a zombie.Do you not believe RE saying I wasn't cult with their ability? I'm offended. Not zombie. Space zombie. Get it right. |
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Apr 18, 2017 12:03 PM
#2866
Doughkey said: Sleip had nothing to do with my reason to vote CP, I voted for CP before Sleipnirr, getting a potential read on sleip was a cherry. As I said, I explained the reason for my vote Here #2557 - Vote Count 4.5 #2662 - Vote Count 4.6, two pages later. I do not see where you voted for CorruptedPurity anywhere within them. #2693 - Sleip votes Reiynii #2700 - You vote Sleip 7 posts later. I don't see how you voted for Reinynii out of preservation when you weren't in danger of being lynched. The only time you could have was here Vote Count 4.2 -#2220. And then you voted for Sleip instead of Reiynii. You voted on a whim of meta which isn't very astute. Hardly enough to say ulterior motives weren't involved. There's also the matter that Cult votes were loaded on Reiynii. @PentaFlare So the rest of Cult voted to save CP? Doughkey said: That point is horse shit and you know it. Aside from Death Note games which were ages ago I've maybe played five mafia games total on MAL. MAL is the only place I play mafia apart from ToS which doesn't even follow the same rules.Just because I have played mafia longer than you doesn't mean I have played more games, I have played somewhere around 25~ full forum games not counting live. But I digress, the point being made is that you are competent enough of a player to tell a players ability. Saying you didn't know Penta would be the kind of player to avidly scum hunt until yesterday is silly, he has been proactive the entire game. Making a case that I'm more experienced than you and thus Cult Leader is even sillier, as you're basing it purely on conjecture. |
Apr 18, 2017 12:26 PM
#2867
Astros said: Doughkey said: Sleip had nothing to do with my reason to vote CP, I voted for CP before Sleipnirr, getting a potential read on sleip was a cherry. As I said, I explained the reason for my vote Here #2557 - Vote Count 4.5 #2662 - Vote Count 4.6, two pages later. I do not see where you voted for CorruptedPurity anywhere within them. #2693 - Sleip votes Reiynii #2700 - You vote Sleip 7 posts later. I don't see how you voted for Reinynii out of preservation when you weren't in danger of being lynched. The only time you could have was here Vote Count 4.2 -#2220. And then you voted for Sleip instead of Reiynii. You voted on a whim of meta which isn't very astute. Hardly enough to say ulterior motives weren't involved. There's also the matter that Cult votes were loaded on Reiynii. @PentaFlare So the rest of Cult voted to save CP? Doughkey said: That point is horse shit and you know it. Aside from Death Note games which were ages ago I've maybe played five mafia games total on MAL. MAL is the only place I play mafia apart from ToS which doesn't even follow the same rules.Just because I have played mafia longer than you doesn't mean I have played more games, I have played somewhere around 25~ full forum games not counting live. But I digress, the point being made is that you are competent enough of a player to tell a players ability. Saying you didn't know Penta would be the kind of player to avidly scum hunt until yesterday is silly, he has been proactive the entire game. Making a case that I'm more experienced than you and thus Cult Leader is even sillier, as you're basing it purely on conjecture. At the time of my vote on Rainy I saw the lynch going to either me or him, it's better I put my self preservation vote on him earlier instead of doing it last second where people don't have an accurate representation of the state of the game. CP did not become an actual lynch option until very late in the phase, I liked the idea of voting CP more than Rainy so I went for it, EZ. My reasons are as stated. You can judge meta all you like but it counts for something, if you are completely neutral to 2 options, meta can be used to tip to one side. But nobody would say you are not a good mafia player. My second game in Mafia Society was Death Note and I was using meta reads and making assumptions about players all over the place, and I was fucking awful at mafia at the time. Are you going to tell me up until yesterday you had considered Penta on the same level as sleip in terms of scum hunting ability? |
Apr 18, 2017 1:01 PM
#2868
Will be gone until tomorrow morning, please wish me the best of luck because I have an accounting test tomorrow and it's the hardest thing I have ever seen in my entire life. |
Apr 18, 2017 1:35 PM
#2869
PentaFlare said: RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: You are thinking too hard. Are you a cultist yet? You're just setting it up so you can convert me tomorrow. It doesn't make sense that priest can't be converted. edit: Also, how would you know without testing it? Also, for the record: unless there's a hidden mechanic that shields cult leader from a night attack, then PentaFlare can't be cult leader since my hidden active allowed me to me to guess a cult member, and if I was right, they'd die. Something I've noticed as a trend in Astros' behavior: he provides reads on people he knows most likely won't be lynched. First there was that thing with logic. Now it's Kit. By focusing on those kinds of people, he avoids being on trains but still looks productive. Regarding him being infected. If he's lying, idk. But if he's telling the truth, as cult leader (or just cult), he does not have to worry about it. In fact, it's more relieving for cult (and town, I guess) because that means we won't get a new zombie tomorrow. Because we were told we can't convert anyone who already is religious. I'm assuming that is the priest. That's such a bad lie, I'm sorry. |
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Apr 18, 2017 1:43 PM
#2870
reiynii said: To be honest, I think the cult leader is Grrr. Although Penta almost surely wasn't cult before night three (and still might be a zombie) he has no reason to ever start suspecting Grrr since he has always been on his side. They play together well apparently and I don't see why he wouldn't stand up for him if it comes to that, as he has already done that as "town" so standing up for him now wouldn't make Grrr anymore suspicious than he really is. This is an excellent point. Really excellent point. I'll search it up and directly quote if need be, but I strictly recall CorruptedPurity begging Rosie not to check grrr. The only reason I'm hesitant to vote grrr is if he happens to be a townie, we gain nothing from it, not even information (which ironically is the argument CP used to persuade Rosie from checking grrr). And good luck on your test!~ |
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Apr 18, 2017 1:49 PM
#2871
RE1031 said: If I remember correctly Purity wanted Rosie to check Kit because he would have a way to solve the game for us remember? He was part of the cult then as well I believe it happened on D3 and D4.reiynii said: To be honest, I think the cult leader is Grrr. Although Penta almost surely wasn't cult before night three (and still might be a zombie) he has no reason to ever start suspecting Grrr since he has always been on his side. They play together well apparently and I don't see why he wouldn't stand up for him if it comes to that, as he has already done that as "town" so standing up for him now wouldn't make Grrr anymore suspicious than he really is. This is an excellent point. Really excellent point. I'll search it up and directly quote if need be, but I strictly recall CorruptedPurity begging Rosie not to check grrr. The only reason I'm hesitant to vote grrr is if he happens to be a townie, we gain nothing from it, not even information (which ironically is the argument CP used to persuade Rosie from checking grrr). And good luck on your test!~ |
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Apr 18, 2017 2:00 PM
#2872
logic340 said: RE1031 said: If I remember correctly Purity wanted Rosie to check Kit because he would have a way to solve the game for us remember? He was part of the cult then as well I believe it happened on D3 and D4.reiynii said: To be honest, I think the cult leader is Grrr. Although Penta almost surely wasn't cult before night three (and still might be a zombie) he has no reason to ever start suspecting Grrr since he has always been on his side. They play together well apparently and I don't see why he wouldn't stand up for him if it comes to that, as he has already done that as "town" so standing up for him now wouldn't make Grrr anymore suspicious than he really is. This is an excellent point. Really excellent point. I'll search it up and directly quote if need be, but I strictly recall CorruptedPurity begging Rosie not to check grrr. The only reason I'm hesitant to vote grrr is if he happens to be a townie, we gain nothing from it, not even information (which ironically is the argument CP used to persuade Rosie from checking grrr). And good luck on your test!~ It was a bluff, but that doesn't mean he wasn't protecting grrr at the same time. He also said he'd be fine with Doki or Penta being investigated (not sure what day that was though). |
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Apr 18, 2017 2:04 PM
#2873
Apr 18, 2017 2:04 PM
#2874
Doughkey said: I beg to differ. The first two to three mafia games I was lynched early and before D3 due to lack of participation. All of which I was town. Then in Tis the Season when I survived to late game with a PR I lynched an innocent on meta about their role claim, costing us the game. I would not consider myself a good player by most standards. But nobody would say you are not a good mafia player. My second game in Mafia Society was Death Note and I was using meta reads and making assumptions about players all over the place, and I was fucking awful at mafia at the time. Are you going to tell me up until yesterday you had considered Penta on the same level as sleip in terms of scum hunting ability? No, but how active has Sleip been? The only one below Sleip in terms of helpful this game is Grrr. Even the inactive that died are placed above him. Astros said: It's been two hours and I'm spotting mistakes in my diagrams. I thought if Kit was hiding under a fake claim, town would need to target OZ first, but they may just be dead at this point. Bottom line is that in order to have a chance at winning town needs to hit OZ or CL today and tomorrow. Otherwise their numbers won't hold up. I'll be back later today and hopefully with those diagrams. reiynii said: The short and nasty of things is if Kit is OZ and hiding behind a false claim then there's an extra CZ and Infected. That is if Ruu and Rinto weren't infected. I'll get the numbers and make some simple diagrams. I really don't get the math anymore, it's so confusing! Mind to expound this? |
Apr 18, 2017 2:08 PM
#2875
RE1031 said: I guess Purity's checks sll boil down to whether we believe the converted Rosie then? If she's converted then Purity could be names of the Cult for us. If not then then he probably wanted kit, doki, Penta (depending in the day) because he didn't know their alignment? logic340 said: RE1031 said: reiynii said: To be honest, I think the cult leader is Grrr. Although Penta almost surely wasn't cult before night three (and still might be a zombie) he has no reason to ever start suspecting Grrr since he has always been on his side. They play together well apparently and I don't see why he wouldn't stand up for him if it comes to that, as he has already done that as "town" so standing up for him now wouldn't make Grrr anymore suspicious than he really is. This is an excellent point. Really excellent point. I'll search it up and directly quote if need be, but I strictly recall CorruptedPurity begging Rosie not to check grrr. The only reason I'm hesitant to vote grrr is if he happens to be a townie, we gain nothing from it, not even information (which ironically is the argument CP used to persuade Rosie from checking grrr). And good luck on your test!~ It was a bluff, but that doesn't mean he wasn't protecting grrr at the same time. He also said he'd be fine with Doki or Penta being investigated (not sure what day that was though). |
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Apr 18, 2017 2:16 PM
#2876
I'm not going to this anymore. Others votes are now counted as secrets. |
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Apr 18, 2017 2:18 PM
#2877
RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: You are thinking too hard. Are you a cultist yet? You're just setting it up so you can convert me tomorrow. It doesn't make sense that priest can't be converted. edit: Also, how would you know without testing it? Also, for the record: unless there's a hidden mechanic that shields cult leader from a night attack, then PentaFlare can't be cult leader since my hidden active allowed me to me to guess a cult member, and if I was right, they'd die. Something I've noticed as a trend in Astros' behavior: he provides reads on people he knows most likely won't be lynched. First there was that thing with logic. Now it's Kit. By focusing on those kinds of people, he avoids being on trains but still looks productive. Regarding him being infected. If he's lying, idk. But if he's telling the truth, as cult leader (or just cult), he does not have to worry about it. In fact, it's more relieving for cult (and town, I guess) because that means we won't get a new zombie tomorrow. Because we were told we can't convert anyone who already is religious. I'm assuming that is the priest. That's such a bad lie, I'm sorry. I'm not lying. The cult is so chock full of hidden mechanics that being converted is a massive information dump. You should try it sometime. Oh wait, you can't. If you don't think I'm telling the truth, what else do you think I am doing with all this? |
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Apr 18, 2017 2:29 PM
#2878
logic340 said: RE1031 said: I guess Purity's checks sll boil down to whether we believe the converted Rosie then? If she's converted then Purity could be names of the Cult for us. If not then then he probably wanted kit, doki, Penta (depending in the day) because he didn't know their alignment? logic340 said: RE1031 said: If I remember correctly Purity wanted Rosie to check Kit because he would have a way to solve the game for us remember? He was part of the cult then as well I believe it happened on D3 and D4.reiynii said: To be honest, I think the cult leader is Grrr. Although Penta almost surely wasn't cult before night three (and still might be a zombie) he has no reason to ever start suspecting Grrr since he has always been on his side. They play together well apparently and I don't see why he wouldn't stand up for him if it comes to that, as he has already done that as "town" so standing up for him now wouldn't make Grrr anymore suspicious than he really is. This is an excellent point. Really excellent point. I'll search it up and directly quote if need be, but I strictly recall CorruptedPurity begging Rosie not to check grrr. The only reason I'm hesitant to vote grrr is if he happens to be a townie, we gain nothing from it, not even information (which ironically is the argument CP used to persuade Rosie from checking grrr). And good luck on your test!~ It was a bluff, but that doesn't mean he wasn't protecting grrr at the same time. He also said he'd be fine with Doki or Penta being investigated (not sure what day that was though). The biggest question here is whether Penta is lying about failing to convert Kit (night 1), converting CP (night 2), and converting Penta (night 3) or not. If he's not lying, that means Rosie could have only been converted tonight, which makes all her posts (since she hasn't posted today yet) town. I am guessing Penta is cult, not zombie. I don't think a zombie would blow their cover to protect a cult member. That means that he must have been converted night 3, and Purity either night 1 or night 2 (if Penta is lying). Rosie came out day 2, maybe she was converted night 2, but maybe not. Kit mentioned this, but it's possible that if Rosie checked her, she would come up guilty because she's TPR. I see it as mostly a diversion. As for Doki, definitely possible, I doubt CP would throw the name of his leader in case Rosie actually listened. @Doughkey Sorry if you stated this already, but why did you choose CorruptedPurity over reiynii? |
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Apr 18, 2017 2:32 PM
#2879
PentaFlare said: RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: You are thinking too hard. Are you a cultist yet? You're just setting it up so you can convert me tomorrow. It doesn't make sense that priest can't be converted. edit: Also, how would you know without testing it? Also, for the record: unless there's a hidden mechanic that shields cult leader from a night attack, then PentaFlare can't be cult leader since my hidden active allowed me to me to guess a cult member, and if I was right, they'd die. Something I've noticed as a trend in Astros' behavior: he provides reads on people he knows most likely won't be lynched. First there was that thing with logic. Now it's Kit. By focusing on those kinds of people, he avoids being on trains but still looks productive. Regarding him being infected. If he's lying, idk. But if he's telling the truth, as cult leader (or just cult), he does not have to worry about it. In fact, it's more relieving for cult (and town, I guess) because that means we won't get a new zombie tomorrow. Because we were told we can't convert anyone who already is religious. I'm assuming that is the priest. That's such a bad lie, I'm sorry. I'm not lying. The cult is so chock full of hidden mechanics that being converted is a massive information dump. You should try it sometime. Oh wait, you can't. If you don't think I'm telling the truth, what else do you think I am doing with all this? Messing with us like Qoco did. I honestly envy you, it must be fun making stuff up as you go along. And I don't doubt the cult is an information dump, I just doubt the mods would say you can't convert someone who's already religious, at least not without trying. |
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Apr 18, 2017 2:50 PM
#2880
Astros ☒ RE1031, Doughkey, Kit Doughkey ☒ logic340 Reiynii ☒ grrr Kit ☒ Astros Not Voting Sleipnirr, yurkin, Oyasumi_Rosie, PentaFlare, Reiynii Mod Note(s) |
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Apr 18, 2017 2:55 PM
#2881
RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: You are thinking too hard. Are you a cultist yet? You're just setting it up so you can convert me tomorrow. It doesn't make sense that priest can't be converted. edit: Also, how would you know without testing it? Also, for the record: unless there's a hidden mechanic that shields cult leader from a night attack, then PentaFlare can't be cult leader since my hidden active allowed me to me to guess a cult member, and if I was right, they'd die. Something I've noticed as a trend in Astros' behavior: he provides reads on people he knows most likely won't be lynched. First there was that thing with logic. Now it's Kit. By focusing on those kinds of people, he avoids being on trains but still looks productive. Regarding him being infected. If he's lying, idk. But if he's telling the truth, as cult leader (or just cult), he does not have to worry about it. In fact, it's more relieving for cult (and town, I guess) because that means we won't get a new zombie tomorrow. Because we were told we can't convert anyone who already is religious. I'm assuming that is the priest. That's such a bad lie, I'm sorry. I'm not lying. The cult is so chock full of hidden mechanics that being converted is a massive information dump. You should try it sometime. Oh wait, you can't. If you don't think I'm telling the truth, what else do you think I am doing with all this? Messing with us like Qoco did. I honestly envy you, it must be fun making stuff up as you go along. And I don't doubt the cult is an information dump, I just doubt the mods would say you can't convert someone who's already religious, at least not without trying. Oh, that wasn't without prompt. We had the option of finding out something and chose to learn about people we couldn't convert. The other options were things like getting a list of three people of which one was a zombie and stuff like that. |
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Apr 18, 2017 2:58 PM
#2882
Apr 18, 2017 3:10 PM
#2883
Hello hello! I just got Internet again about a half an hour ago~ I originally started the message then but.... I lose Internet right as I posted.... anyways, skimmed through most of the pages from EoD4. I blocked Logic last night. It's useful to know that he will repeat messages if he is unable to send them himself. Though... I didn't receive a "sent" message from aa-dono. Maybe this means I was blocker maybe? Idk. @aa-dono can you say anything about this? I didn't receive any pms that night. Was anyone else besides Penta confirmed scum now? I have a feeling that they might be, but I can't remember. Cult leader should be our next target. vote : grrr I am going to check my other games. Pinging wouldn't do much since I don't check my notifications as much but it highlights stuff later when I am catching up. |
Apr 18, 2017 3:13 PM
#2884
Astros ☒ RE1031, Doughkey, Kit, grrr Doughkey ☒ logic340 Kit ☒ Astros grrr ☒ Oyasumi_Rosie Not Voting Sleipnirr, yurkin, PentaFlare, Reiynii Mod Note(s) - |
Apr 18, 2017 3:45 PM
#2885
Apr 18, 2017 4:06 PM
#2886
RE1031 said: Cries it was too much of an undertaking? I am in multiple games and have company I am currently ignoring (2nd day now). I can post what I have it's part way through D2 as I have lost it a few time due to sticky keys closing my windows. Also @logic340 where are dem ISOs hm? It's fine if you don't have them, but I'm probably going to do one on CP so I just don't want a overlap. Here is what I got so you know I wasn't bullshitting Doki Day 1: #33 - Votes Kit for Daddy post #34 - Tells yurkin Chad is always irregular #36 - Fluff joke to Rosie about Chad #39 - Digging into CP about post #37 #48 - Response to Purity's #45 more digging #49 - Asked me what prompted my meat change #50 - Tells Astros about Dark Theme #53 - Tells Astros the Dark Theme is a Chrome extension #55 - Says my reasons seem legit and it sounds like we have a similar playing style. He can empathize with due to being aggressive himself #107 - Tell Shinichi that Shinichi would know better than to bring up NL as mafia, says he's changed since he came off hiatus asks Shinichi to compare with his 2015 games where he was getting warning and wrist slaps. Tells Purity the roster is stacked no D1 RVS should be happening, he lives for meta but only those he develops himself, that this is the first time he heard making a joke in a mafia game was bad. Tells me he did something similar when changing meta as town so it couldn't be used against him as mafia. #111 - Posts a screen shot of the Dark Theme #258 - Tells Sleipnirr his game is shitty and he would scum read him every game if he didn't know his meta, not the best early good later in the game. Asks Kit why she would prefer to lynch town over not lynching anyone. Tells yurkin that if the real Priest has played with grrr they wouldn't counter claim him unless the Priest is a skilled player who feels we could benefit from it. #264 - Thought the votes on him would have moved by now. Says his vote on Kit was to start conversation. Explains Kit as neutral scum due to reaction and OMGUS. Says CP is neutral town to him. #266 - Asks if grrr has been getting killed early in recent games #269 - Says grrr might have just claimed to save himself and make a conversion out and call it a job well done. Explains what he thinks about grrr's two most recent games. He has gained somewhat of a meta on grrr and will have something in a few days hopefully. Neutral town on grrr as claiming Priest would be too risky as scum. #353 - Realizes that Qoco was own and says he is eternally salty him for UAS. #358 - Tells me speaking from experience that grrr does nothing under pressure he does dumb things like claiming Priest D1. Say you lynch grrr with the intent to kill him. Pressure doesn't work on someone who doesn't are if they die or not. #369 - Asks RE if she read the analysis of grrr's claim he made in response to yurkin #476 - Explains why her feels scum in among the lurkers, says looking over the player list it seems we have no real lurkers. Finds Astros to be suspicious #479 - Asks if my vote on grrr is the route I really want to go. Also asks if the real Priest should claim if the grrr lynch is about to go through #485 - Tells RE he believes grrr is vanilla town. Says Priest hasn't come out yet only time would be closer to lynch, asked the question so the Priest would know it shouldn't be done. Says the question should be changed to if the Priest should ever claim? #487 - He forgot to add Ruu to the list of lurkers. Says only meta he has is a game he hosted she took a back seat so she is in her scum meta. #490 - Lynch options are Astros, Ruu, or Kit. #492 - Tells me he may go back and look at Disgaea though he was the host he didn't keep up with it much. #508 - Explains to me why he feels that grrr is town in this situation. Says that the move was enough to mess with scum. #528 - Tells me such is life with grrr in Meta Society, grrr has never said anythng beneficial to town, feels votes on grrr are better suited elsewhere where they will be of use but a grrr lynch is never a bad thing. #532 - Asks Shinichi if he needs to hear the league of legends story. #540 - Remembers that Shinichi was the one that grrr saved so he doesn't need to tell him the story. #559 - Tells Shinichi he was just salty in that game. #597 - Says that a grrr lynch is good, but he is skeptical of him being Priest. Would prefer a grrr lynch over no lynch. Makes a wager with reiynii "Lets make a wager. If Grr flips scum, I will marry you. If Grr flips town, you marry Chad" Day 2: #785 - Finds no lynch silly as fuck for obvious reasons. Says he doubts my no lynch was scum motivated. He's at a bit of a loss as he hasn't been in a game with no lynch. Voices his displeasure with Ruu's train. Finds it odd the people who voted there didn't unvote when they saw she wasn't around to claim or defend herself. Votes Rosie #1070 - Tells Purity he endorses the idea of the Crier coming forward if they feel they can be like the town mayor. If it's a waste of a claim then stay anonymous and cover the Priest. #1073 - Tels Rosie this is just how he is ask the people who have played with him. Tells me he would convert someone who is vocal but not very suspicious. He knows this is obvious but with no tracker he feels comfortable. Astros, Logic, Penta, CP would be his choices thinks inactives are too high risk #1074 - Tells Shinichi he thinks he can read him pretty well. #1075 - Says he took what Rosie said in the boldled as a threat and that she didn't regard the point he made against her. #1099 - Tells Shinichi he is down to push a Rosie lynch based on D1 and generally useless D2, thinks Kit and Rosie could be zombie parent (Rosie) and infected (Kit). reiynii Day 1: #102 - Tells Purity he didn't find his first post scummy. Says whoever is saying that is setting Purity up. Says he had went through something similar as town from another town for being to Pro-Town. #140 - Tells Qoco that his first husband is Roy but Qoco can be fifth. Though it seems to be a cursed number that no one wants. #143 - Asks Shinichi how he can be less scummy though. Says he gets scum read even when being pro town. #144 - Tells grrr he can join the harem. #147 - Asks Rosie who CP is #148 - Tells grrr he would be his first choice if he was Cult leader or Zombie. If grrr wont join willingly he's like to make him do it. #150 - Asks Kit if he can be her brother so they can both be daddy's little darlings. #151 - Tells Qoco he can hang out with the pending MS husbands until he decides #152 - Has class will be back tomorrow. #303 - Mentions to me that the Sleepwalker is the only person who doesn't know they are PR "tricky game" #307 - Tells yurkin that he feels the cult is more like the mafia in this game due to having a club to chat in and zombies are like tpt and says he needs to re read abilities. #310 - Tells Doki he liked playing as mafia with Shinichi and grrr #313 - +1 to Purity's post about scum being on the grrr train #318 - Asks what the point of sleepwalker is says he's a glorified vanilla #325 - Talks to me about no lynch and what it means for us #329 - Says he likes me and says I should join the harem #336 - Tells Shinichi they were scum together in favorites and explains what he like it. #340 - Tells Shinichi that his town reads are Purity and me. He is still on Doki because he hasn't found anything better. #342 - Tells Shinichi that he really liked the Favorites game #346 - Votes Ruu asks her to come back. #348 - Tells Shinichi that he though the way he changed his vote was cooler than just change vote #370 - Tells me no one on the grrr train poked his attention, says he was adding to Purity's statement because he feels grrr is an easy to frame since he is anti-town #381 - Never excluded himself from being among the inactives, Is asking for diversity and he doesn't think no lynch will happen. #388 - Tells me #389 - Asked if I mean D1 or cycle 1. Asked if Zombies could infect during the day? #415 - Tells Rinto ofc Kit would pick someone other than herself. #476 - "grrr is getting lynched" Eyes lighting up anime meme. #481 - Tells Doki of course not in response to whether the real Priest should claim or not. #506 - Votes grrr, even though he thinks grrr is village he isn't against a grrr lynch, feels he isn't helping or being cooperative, also asks what we do with a useless Priest. #537 - Tells Shinichi that grrr flipping anything but scum doesn't make sense to him. Not sure where Shinichi's defense comes from but the blind meta wont come in handy. #544 - Tells Penta he isn't sure why Penta is upset with me. Says I have valid points and that he doesn't accept old meta but finds them interesting as a new player. He says we will see what happens with grrr. #546 - Asks Penta who deserves to be lynched if not grrrr #553 - Tell Shinichi that if grrr isn't going to abide by stereotypical town behavior then Shinichi's read doesn't hold ground. Maybe grrr is playing for his own win condition? Also states that he isn't inactive he is lurking #561 - Tells Kit that the Priest couldn't do anything about grrr's claim if they want their ability to be of any use. #566 - AsksShinichi why should he believe in his or Penta's old meta reads on older players? #570 - Sarcastically agrees that grrr isn't playing by himself. #578 - Tells Penta he didn't realize he was still voting for Kit #584 - Tells RE grrr is being defended with Meta Reads #591 - Says we should lynch grrr even if he is town to limit confusion. Says we have literally focused on grrr and no one else D1. Made him a priority due to turning down the harem proposal. Doesn't think he is scum but wants him gone. #601 - He is down with Doki's wager Day 2: #798 - Says he feels I would have got shit eitehr way. people were going to be upset if I had lynched grrr and people were mad that I caused a No Luynch. Questions why people are voting for Kit. Votes for yurkin #807 - Agree's with Purity a lot of words to say he doesn't think grrr is scum but still voted him because he is confusing. #821 - Tells yurkin he's not sure he can be considered senpai as he is new #824 - Asked Purity if logic is cult why wasn't reiynii converted yet? #837 - Asks yurkin about the crier role and says he missed the message. #846 - Tells yurkin he though gerkin was grrr. #852 - Tells yurkin he is nice and to convert him if he is cult or zombie #853 - Tells me he doesn't think Sleepwalker should be considered a PR #859 - Reiterates to yurkin that he feels Sleepwalker is a regular villager. Says it's interesting that sleepwalker would have a different view of the game. #863 - Asked Astros how is the sleepwalker supposed to utilize their ability if they do not know they have it. #884 - Asks me how the Priest can confirm he sleepwalker. Also asks if the crier is supposed to remain anonymous how can they confirm themselves. #887 - Tells yurkin that Sliepnirr is also suspicious and lurking (like Rinto) #991 - Says Penta, Astros, and Doki would be good conversion options gives his reasoning. #993 - Asks Shinichi if we don't know if we have been infected or converted during the day. Asks if we don't know until we completely change. #996 - Response to Shinichi about conversions "In what way? I think that we can think of it both ways if we wanted to: evil aligned players could use reverse psychology and convert/infect the people who we thought they would or do what we'd expect them to and convert/infect the people most of us thought they wouldn't bother with. I think those reads are a bit nicer since they give more perspective to the game. We don't have to go full details when doing reads or talk about all players, but I'm in when it's something small like stating you suspect list and all." #997 - Asks me if infections work the same for Cult as they do for Zombie #1000 - Tells SHinichi I am actually his #1 town read. Thinks the game would be a bit more booting without me. #1001 - Tells Rosie that RNG isn't the greatest idea when choosing who to use your ability on #1004 - Tells me he looks up to Crossbell. Also says this isn't a game that can be solved in 1 day. #1005 - He has to go will check back in the morning #1101 - Tells Shinichi to convert him so that he can be ont he winning team. |
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Apr 18, 2017 9:32 PM
#2887
This doesn't feel right to me. Two of the biggest question marks are in the need train right now. I'm feel there's at least one zombie and possible a cult in there. This is going like Qoco's lynch but we had confirmation we were lynching scum there. Are we content with this? 4 people not voting is the potential Cult team mixed in there? Vote: reiynii I want a zombie today if we let the oz infect again we're done for anyway. |
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Apr 18, 2017 10:15 PM
#2888
logic340 said: Going after the cult leader would be best though no? That way at least they can't effect more people.This doesn't feel right to me. Two of the biggest question marks are in the need train right now. I'm feel there's at least one zombie and possible a cult in there. This is going like Qoco's lynch but we had confirmation we were lynching scum there. Are we content with this? 4 people not voting is the potential Cult team mixed in there? Vote: reiynii I want a zombie today if we let the oz infect again we're done for anyway. |
Apr 18, 2017 11:28 PM
#2889
So we believe in penta's story but Astros in lying and is the CL? In the same day first a cult member reveal itself, then the cult leader make fake claim to save its skin from lynching? Well, judging by the vote count it has the opposite effect lol. If to connect the dots was so easy to do, as doki did, then penta's claim did go in vain heh. It look so shady and convenient -,- re's ability that is proof for penta not being the cl; kit's attempt to be converted n1; cult currently consist of 3; priest cannot be converted; the zombies being the bigger threat to town;......It feels like im being so obviously lied to XD Between the two ofc, have more trust in Astros, and wont vote for him now. |
Apr 18, 2017 11:35 PM
#2890
yurkin said: Who do you think is the CL then? Out of everyone who is left?So we believe in penta's story but Astros in lying and is the CL? In the same day first a cult member reveal itself, then the cult leader make fake claim to save its skin from lynching? Well, judging by the vote count it has the opposite effect lol. If to connect the dots was so easy to do, as doki did, then penta's claim did go in vain heh. It look so shady and convenient -,- re's ability that is proof for penta not being the cl; kit's attempt to be converted n1; cult currently consist of 3; priest cannot be converted; the zombies being the bigger threat to town;......It feels like im being so obviously lied to XD Between the two ofc, have more trust in Astros, and wont vote for him now. Also, I want to apologize to you for my bad vote on you, or at least the bad reason behind it. |
Apr 19, 2017 5:09 AM
#2891
Oyasumi_Rosie said: Cult leader or Zombie is good but with the way things are sitting right now I have to wonder if we really caught the cult leader or if we are being lead by the nose. logic340 said: Going after the cult leader would be best though no? That way at least they can't effect more people.This doesn't feel right to me. Two of the biggest question marks are in the need train right now. I'm feel there's at least one zombie and possible a cult in there. This is going like Qoco's lynch but we had confirmation we were lynching scum there. Are we content with this? 4 people not voting is the potential Cult team mixed in there? Vote: reiynii I want a zombie today if we let the oz infect again we're done for anyway. Astros was the first to vote Kit for her claim and he is voting her now. That is not the type of behavior I expect from the cult leader given that the cult needs Kit's ability as much as we do. Doki on the other hand was very quick to believe Kit and even wanted to save kit voting Qoco for a brief second in the process. Reiynii voted with Qoco on grrr D1 but I am starting to think they may have been zombie buddies. Qoco almost lynched grrr so they aren't likely teammates but CL grrrr would have been in a great position all game (kind of like scum grrr in kitty mafia)? grrr, reiyniii. Astros, doki I'm with yurkin Astros is the least suspicious of the three. Doki's case seems way to easy and convenient with no one thinking critically about it just sitting here waiting for shit to happen. Notice he only gets active when his own safety may be in jeopardy? These are signs that I am not liking. Seems people don't want to lynch Doki but look at his posts and tell me what makes him town right now? |
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Apr 19, 2017 5:09 AM
#2892
yurkin said: I'm with you on this one. Who do you think is a better lynch grrr, reiynii or doki?So we believe in penta's story but Astros in lying and is the CL? In the same day first a cult member reveal itself, then the cult leader make fake claim to save its skin from lynching? Well, judging by the vote count it has the opposite effect lol. If to connect the dots was so easy to do, as doki did, then penta's claim did go in vain heh. It look so shady and convenient -,- re's ability that is proof for penta not being the cl; kit's attempt to be converted n1; cult currently consist of 3; priest cannot be converted; the zombies being the bigger threat to town;......It feels like im being so obviously lied to XD Between the two ofc, have more trust in Astros, and wont vote for him now. |
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Apr 19, 2017 5:12 AM
#2893
@Doughkey, @grrr, @Kit, @Sleipnirr, @yurkin, @Astros, @Oyasumi_Rosie, @RE1031, @PentaFlare, @Reiynii We are headed to our deadline are we content with the way thing are? I feel like we have used this phase about as good as we did Phase 3 when we knew Qoco was scum. We don't know Astros is scum and the fact that people aren't talking is really bothering me and making paranoid about a possible mislynch. Please share some thoughts because even if Astros is the Cult Leader we still have zombies to find, 2 by my estimations. |
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Apr 19, 2017 6:01 AM
#2894
logic340 said: Maybe they know Doughkey isn't CL? Would make sense if what I've been preaching since D2, that kit is oz, is true. But then that begs the question of who is CL? Guess it really wouldn't matter as Zombies would be close to winning already. Also explains why they haven't made use of their time to pressure others as there's no need. But then why would they lynch an infected? You guys aren't that upset I'm turning against you are you?@Doughkey, @grrr, @Kit, @Sleipnirr, @yurkin, @Astros, @Oyasumi_Rosie, @RE1031, @PentaFlare, @Reiynii We are headed to our deadline are we content with the way thing are? I feel like we have used this phase about as good as we did Phase 3 when we knew Qoco was scum. We don't know Astros is scum and the fact that people aren't talking is really bothering me and making paranoid about a possible mislynch. Please share some thoughts because even if Astros is the Cult Leader we still have zombies to find, 2 by my estimations. In the case of RE1031 being zombie they would have just CC Grrr who is the real Priest. Their infection from D3 would have turned them into a Converted Zombie by now. The fact Penta is still alive despite them claiming a Cult killing ability works against them. While they won't be much help I'll go finish those diagrams. Said I would. |
Apr 19, 2017 6:38 AM
#2895
logic340 said: grrr, reiyniii. Astros, doki I'm with yurkin Astros is the least suspicious of the three. Doki's case seems way to easy and convenient with no one thinking critically about it just sitting here waiting for shit to happen. Notice he only gets active when his own safety may be in jeopardy? These are signs that I am not liking. Seems people don't want to lynch Doki but look at his posts and tell me what makes him town right now? The reason I eliminated doki is because his vote on CorruptedPurity is what made it into a tie, and then Sleipnirr switched. Do you think he would buss like that? I'll contribute more later since I'm a little busy but I'm not that worried with how things are right now. Using yesterday as an example, PentaFlare being very defensive of CorruptedPurity pretty much sold that he was cult, or at least guilty. If people were to jump up in arms to defend Astros, it would imply that there's something to defend. Astros said: In the case of RE1031 being zombie they would have just CC Grrr who is the real Priest. Their infection from D3 would have turned them into a Converted Zombie by now. The fact Penta is still alive despite them claiming a Cult killing ability works against them. Okay, you are doubting way too many people now. You think Kit is an OZ, you think I'm a zombie.. Penta just confessed to being cult, and even if he isn't, there's no way he's town with that confession. You believe Penta is cult, no? Then that means he would be defending me and Kit with his confession, and if you think we are zombies, then it doesn't really make sense for cult to do that? |
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Apr 19, 2017 6:44 AM
#2896
logic340 said: I still believe that cult is more dangerous. As I said before, zombies are slow at converting others, while cultists have to just match the number of everyone else which means 2 more days if they convert more and we lynch a non cult.Cult Leader we still have zombies to find, 2 by my estimations. I don't know how many zombies there are right now, but I think 2 with 1 infected? they still have to infect 6 more people, so we can eliminate them once we know we're keeping cultists at bey... Vote: Grrr This lynch should work. Grrr is not town, and potentially cult leader. |
Apr 19, 2017 6:47 AM
#2897
logic340 said: When I voted for Grrr during day 1, it was because he claimed priest and I doubted that claim like any sane player would, but Qoco probably wanted to get rid of Grrr because he believed that he might have been priest.Reiynii voted with Qoco on grrr D1 but I am starting to think they may have been zombie buddies. Qoco almost lynched grrr so they aren't likely teammates but CL grrrr would have been in a great position all game (kind of like scum grrr in kitty mafia)? I think we should ignore Astros and Penta for today and focus on Grrr because he not only isn't taking part of this game, but has been caught in a lie- that's how we caught Qoco, so why don't we catch Grrr as well? |
Apr 19, 2017 6:50 AM
#2898
Bunkyou Stray Dogs mafia started and everyone from here moved there ;-; |
Apr 19, 2017 7:23 AM
#2899
reiynii said: not true I've been working all three of the haves I'm in.Bunkyou Stray Dogs mafia started and everyone from here moved there ;-; Vote: grrr He was caught lying and no one else (expert RE) has really questioned what or means for his alignment. To scummy to be scum? Maybe not so much anymore? Could see him being cult leader and possible zombie die to not knowing Qoco's style when it comes to bussing. |
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Apr 19, 2017 7:30 AM
#2900
Astros ☒ RE1031, Doughkey, Kit, grrr grrr ☒ Oyasumi_Rosie, reiynii, logic340 Kit ☒ Astros Not Voting Sleipnirr, yurkin, PentaFlare Mod Note(s) - |
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