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Feb 19, 2010 3:02 AM
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KazeFalcon said:
Me:I watch anime
A youtube user:"OMG!You watched hentai?"

n i was like WHAT THE FUCK??
I JUST SAID ANIME>.>


=)) that kinda happened to me too. but not on internet. real life =_=
Some guys from my class found out that I watch anime and told to others. They asked me kinda like: So... you watch anime? SO YOU KNOW ABOUT HENTAI? H.E.N.T.A.I... (=_=" of course I knew what's that and I could've said him that => Uhm.. You know about yaoi? Y.A.O.I ??? ( just to say that he's gay for some reason) <-- even though I like reading/watching yaoi soo... (:P)
Another thing is that with anime being chinese; or when non-anime ppl say they're cartoons ( even though they're animes =)) ...)
and other s**t... =_=
 
Feb 19, 2010 3:04 AM

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Aoi_hana said:
or when non-anime ppl say they're cartoons ( even though they're animes =)) ...)

anime is a form of cartoon.

 
Feb 19, 2010 3:36 AM

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MisterSaito said:
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or when non-anime ppl say they're cartoons ( even though they're animes =)) ...)

anime is a form of cartoon.
Right. But when someone said anime is "cartoon" it could also referring to american cartoons, which i hate it.
 
Feb 19, 2010 3:41 AM

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"Is anime Japanese or Asian?"

I'm not lying, I actually heard this shit!
 
Feb 19, 2010 4:22 AM

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Immature people and Anime is for kids like Cartoons
(as if they know that Anime is much complicated from those they watch duhh!)
 
Feb 19, 2010 4:29 AM

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AirStyles said:
"Aren't you too old to watch these cartoon?"

I was watching Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni...


Same for me with 'childrens cartoons' - my mother -_-
Then I get told off for watching bloody and violent shows.

Uh..make you mind up; cartoon or overly aggressive shows not suitable for under 18s?

 
Feb 19, 2010 5:54 AM

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ezikialrage said:
I htink I heard anime fans say more ignorant things than non anime fans.For example I seen anime fans say some stupid things like-

1.anime is not cartoons or I do not watch cartoons I watch anime.(which is like saying I do not drink beer but I love checkvar beer.)

2.I like the subbed because the acting is much better(usually these are people who are not fluent in Japanese saying this shit,so they do not have any basis for that claim)

3.there is more emotion in the subbed than in the dubbed.(usually these are people who are not fluent in Japanese saying this shit,so they do not have any basis for this claim )

4.all dubs are stupid(usually said by someone who has only watched one or two crappy dubbs and is not fluent in Japanese,so he can not judge all dubs or even say if the sub are stupid )

5.The subs are more accurate(usually said by someone who is not fluent in Japanese,so he can not accurately tell how accurate the translator is, just the opinions of others.Yes sometimes a rice ball gets translated as a ding dong or a rice cracker)





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It really bothers me when peole call anime cartoons and say its for kids.


Anime are cartoons. Not all cartoons are for kids so it is ignorant to suggest that a particular medium is only for children. I do not think anyone would let their children watch South Park, Family guy, Robot Chicken,American Dad, SuperJail, Boondocks,Heavy Metal,Metalocalypse or any other cartoon aimed at adults. Japanese cartoons are no different, there some anime you would let little kids watch and some you would not let little kids watch.




I'm sorry but you dont have to be fluent in Japanese to be able to tell that almost all of the time the original language is better than the dub, tbh this goes for any form of movie/anime/cartoon w/e. There is no reason to change something simply because its not in your native language. Dubbing anything is pretty lame and completely unnecessary if subs are available.
 
Feb 19, 2010 6:14 AM

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Socke said:
Recently one of the most annoying trend on youtube and other popular video hosting sites is bashing anime fans and anime itself. No offense to them but I just find some of their claims are just plain stupid and only based on stereotypes alone. There may be lots of them but I just can answer few "smarter" ones.

1. "Anime fans don't have life"
Actually I refer it as snobbery from richer and more athletic people to the 'inferior' ones like nerds. Back then in 1980's or 1990's, people who loves Dungeon & Dragon and other popular tabletop RPGs get same insult, and of course people who loves video games too. Just anime fans are not popular doesn't mean they did not enjoy their life. In fact they enjoyed it better than you preps and jocks. They just prefer to take the back seats instead.

2. "Anime fans are Japanophiles"
Not really. In fact while I do support their anime and manga industries but not their music, filming, and pornography industries. I also not very interested in their culture as well. Not to insult them but I just found many other interesting cultures in this planet. Of course no culture is superior than the other one.

3. "Anime fans will never get a girlfriend/boyfriend"
Another silly comment. I don't know about other people but I already married, has a daughter(with another child in this year), and more importantly I start to become an anime fan before I even met my wife. You don't need to become an anime fans for not getting a boyfriend/girlfriend. If you spent too much time on working and it guarantee you will never find one.

4. "Anime do nothing except entertaining me"
So does your favorite video games and comic books.

PS: I have no intention to insult anyone here. Just answering some comments made by some non-anime fans.

HAHAHA You Rock!.. it's annoying everytime hearing these comments for me.
 
Feb 19, 2010 6:15 AM

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ezikialrage said:
Hideyoshilover said:

Why does no one get that cartoon is a derogatory word?
call it animation if you respect it

It is not a derogatory word. Perhaps only to people who are ashamed of the fact they watch cartoons is it a derogatory to call anime "cartoons" or "Japanese cartoons". Get off your high horse. You watching cartoons from Japan like Negima,Ganzts or some other anime does not make you better or more sophisticated than than someone here in the US watching SouthPark, Family Guy,Simpsons,Sponge Bob Square Pants,The Misadventures of FlapJack or some other American cartoon, nor does it make those who watch American cartoons more sophisticated or better than those who watch Japanese cartoons. There is no shame in watching cartoons. If someone gives you shit for watching cartoons you should ask them if they watch SouthPark, Simpsons,Family Guy, MEtal Apocalypse,Super Jail,Heavy Metal, or some other show aimed at adults.




chronovoid said:

One dun need to understand a language to basically discern the emotions of the other speaking in the language.


For all you know the voice actors doing Elfen Lied,Gun SLinger Girl, Macross 7,Monster and other anime you watch sound to the Japanese they way voice actors doing Ed Edd and Eddy, Invader Zim and Sponge Bob square Pants sound to us Americans and other english speaking people. You don't know that that because you are not fluent in Japanese. Written dialog such as subtitles and a language you do not understand does not convey emotion if the voice actor is putting any emotion into his or her voice acting role.

The last part is complete BS.. You can tell emotion from the way someone speaks. It doesn't matter language.
 
Feb 19, 2010 8:33 AM

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I always get irritated when they say things like;
''Watching that chinese stuff again''
How many times do i have to say! It's Japanese.

''You watch hentai?!''
I watch anime! Hentai is a form of Anime, not anime itself!

'Why do they have those big eyes?''
-_- It's just a drawing style, go whine somewhere else.

''They all look the same, don't you get the feeling your watching the same show all the time''
Never really got this one. I clearly see many different looks and personality's. But apparently other people don't.
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Feb 19, 2010 8:56 AM

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God, thats something I really hate.
I often hear something like "You watching these cartoons for kids again?" and their next sentence is "You watching these cartoon porn again?"
Yeah, makes perfect sense.
Or the most stupid thing I ever heard a few days ago.
"Why do you watch things in a language you don't know?" My answer was "because it's my hobby and i watch it with english subtitles". His answer was "I would search for a hobby in my language". That's such an ignorant answer.
Yes, stay in your little world and believe that everyone who wants to speak with you has to learn your language (german in my case).
 
Feb 19, 2010 8:56 AM
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Why are you watching this chinese shit? arent you too old for that?

oh and some people think the only animes are pokemon and DragonballZ xD
 
Feb 19, 2010 9:32 AM
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"you'll never mature if you still watch anime, its bad for you"

anime has nothing to do with it also It's true that I'm not that old but I'm already mature enough to decide what I wanted to do XD Mind your own businesses

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Feb 19, 2010 9:50 AM

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KazeFalcon said:
Me:I watch anime
A youtube user:"OMG!You watched hentai?"

Aoi_hana said:
that kinda happened to me too. but not on internet. real life.
Some guys from my class found out that I watch anime and told to others. They asked me kinda like: So... you watch anime? SO YOU KNOW ABOUT HENTAI? H.E.N.T.A.I..

And this is the thing that still strikes me as odd. These 'guys' aren't anime watchers, nor want anything to do with it, but they still know the word 'hentai'. Unless you've never read about anime, or tried to absorb yourself into it, how are you capable of knowing this? Before I started watching anime, I had never even heard of 'hentai'.


 
Feb 19, 2010 9:58 AM

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This isnt really anime related. But its addressed at Gamers.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/hells-bells-these-boys-need-to-act-their-age/story-e6frg73f-1225828907947

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Feb 19, 2010 10:01 AM

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"There is no animation in anime, it's just still frames!" I kid you not, my anime hating friend actually said that!
 
Feb 19, 2010 10:24 AM
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For movies there is the obvious reason that the mouth movements don't fit the audio. But for cartoons... please STFU. And you do need to understand the language to judge if a certain "dub" is worse or better than the original.


This statement =/= truth. I was first introduced to anime through Adult Swim.. Anime like Wolf's Rain and Case Closed, anime I consider to be decently dubbed. Later, when I got a computer and started exploring the internet, I discovered more anime.

I started watching them in English (I had no clue anime was created in Japan at this point). Some English dubs were literally unwatchable. Most of them were painfully monotonous.. no emotion, no feeling whatsoever. On Veoh one night though, I found a subbed anime, I honestly don't remember what it was, and the voice acting was incredibly better than most English dubs.

I've been watchin' subbed anime ever since with the exception of Case Closed and Evangelion and such. Mostly anime I watched in English when I was younger, so the voice acting doesn't really bother me. Many English voice actors in anime, for some reason, speak in a monotone, in my experience at least. Monotone doesn't convey emotion.. at all. That's a REALLY long, boring and drawn out answer to a question that.. wasn't really asked in the first place. Figured I'd throw in my two cents on that though.

As for stupid things I've heard about anime from people that don't watch it.. The only shit I've ever gotten for watchin' anime was from my parents and sister to be honest. My friends never really cared, since most of 'em were into anime too, to an extent at least.
 
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probably my parents, If there is any sort of hint of a female on the screen, my parents will go "are you watching porn!?" and I usually say "Sure Dad, in the middle of the day in the living room, frankly I felt like having you watch me while I masturbate, because I really wanna have that awkward feeling afterward with you. :D" then he says some thing along the lines of " I really hate you" and I say " yep I know and could you fall down the stairs and break your neck on your way, I need the inheritance." Yep completely normal with my family.
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Feb 19, 2010 11:05 AM

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Nathan, why do you watch all those boring Japanese Cartoons all the time? Do all of them feature flat chested girls? I'm worried about you.

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Jigero said:
probably my parents, If there is any sort of hint of a female on the screen, my parents will go "are you watching porn!?" and I usually say "Sure Dad, in the middle of the day in the living room, frankly I felt like having you watch me while I masturbate, because I really wanna have that awkward feeling afterward with you. :D" then he says some thing along the lines of " I really hate you" and I say " yep I know and could you fall down the stairs and break your neck on your way, I need the inheritance." Yep completely normal with my family.

Wow dude, even if your dad is annoying you, you should have some respect for him and not wish him to fall down the stairs... Though, you dialogue did make me laugh :D
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Feb 19, 2010 11:26 AM

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"Stop watching those cartoons.. *goes to play World of Warcraft* "

Kind of related to anime.. "Cartoons will rot your brain"
 
Feb 19, 2010 11:42 AM

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OGC said:
"Stop watching those cartoons.. *goes to play World of Warcraft* "



"Else the wrath of the lich king will strike you." Do they add these lines also?:P
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Feb 19, 2010 12:17 PM

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chronovoid said:
OGC said:
"Stop watching those cartoons.. *goes to play World of Warcraft* "



"Else the wrath of the lich king will strike you." Do they add these lines also?:P

No, although he has the Lich King expansion.
 
Feb 19, 2010 12:51 PM

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I knew I suck at explaining things, but I never knew it was this bad:

''Hey! Isn't that the 'Anime' thing you keep talking about?''
''....John...That's a giraffe...''

My ego hurts now.
 
Feb 19, 2010 2:43 PM

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For all you know the voice actors doing Elfen Lied,Gun SLinger Girl, Macross 7,Monster
The last part is complete BS.. You can tell emotion from the way someone speaks. It doesn't matter language.


If you are not fluent in their language then how do you know if they are not over acting,underacting or sound like a Japanese version of Invader Zim,Smurfette or Sponge Bob square pants? You don't so you can't judge emotion from a unfamiliar and unknown dialect,grammar structure and language.


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I'm sorry but you dont have to be fluent in Japanese to be able to tell that almost all of the time the original language is better than the dub, tbh this goes for any form of movie/anime/cartoon w/e..


If you are not fluent in the original language of the show then have nothing to base That comment on.All you know from watching subs is the dialog between the characters and all that is based on how good the translator is and that translator's interpretation. Its like saying a particular food taste awful if you never had that particular food or that a particular book is crappy if you never read that book before. Watching a cartoon show in a language you are not fluent in just means you are blissfully unaware of the quality of acting and emotion in that cartoon show.



There is no reason to change something simply because its not in your native language..


The reason why it is dubbed is because of the fact it is in another language.Most people pick up a book or read stuff off websites if they want to read something, not put on a video.The fact it is not in your native tongue is a perfectly good reason to dubbed it in your language.


Dubbing anything is pretty lame and completely unnecessary if subs are available.


If you are going to watch subs you might as well be reading a book or watching those old black and while or monochrome colored silent movies. Most people do not enjoy doing gymnastics with eyes of trying to watch whats going on while reading words on the bottom of the screen,so it is a perfectly good reason to dub something. I am pretty sure the Japanese dub American shows all the time and it is has nothing to do with how good or how bad the American voice actors are, it is due to the fact they do not want to be switching their eyes back and forth between reading reading the words on the bottom of the screen and whats going on.
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ezikialrage said:

All you know from watching subs is the dialog between the characters and all that is based on how good the translator is and that translator's interpretation.

Mind if I say something? The same can be said for dubbed version also. Since you dun know japanese, all you know from watching dubs are voiced dialog in English between characters that is based on how good the translator is and that translator's interpretation. Since you dun know japanese, how come you are supposed to know whether the dub voice actors are overdoing or underdoing or doin just fine compared with original actors'?
Anyway,

Its like saying a particular food taste awful if you never had that particular food or that a particular book is crappy if you never read that book before. Watching a cartoon show in a language you are not fluent in just means you are blissfully unaware of the quality of acting and emotion in that cartoon show.

Not quite. Those who watch subs can easily see whether the acting is over or under or just nice based on the rough(i m using the word rough here, since you should know it is quite difficult to translate between an East Asian language and a West European language.) translation of subtitles, which help us understand what's going on.


If you are going to watch subs you might as well be reading a book or watching those old black and while or monochrome colored silent movies. Most people do not enjoy doing gymnastics with eyes of trying to watch whats going on while reading words on the bottom of the screen,so it is a perfectly good reason to dub something. I am pretty sure the Japanese dub American shows all the time and it is has nothing to do with how good or how bad the American voice actors are, it is due to the fact they do not want to be switching their eyes back and forth between reading reading the words on the bottom of the screen and whats going on.

IMO, you must be pretty incompatible with reading subs. All of us who watch subs have never experienced such kinda switching back and forth problems. I've never heard of a sub watcher complaining abt having to switch their eyes back and forth except there are not only bottom subtitles but also top translation notes.
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Huh... today came to mind.

This kid I never talk to came up to me today, and this was how the conversation went.

Him: Hey, I saw you at that one place.
Me: ...What one place?
Him: That one place in Indy.
Me: Anime Crossroads?
Him: Yeah! I was thinking about going there then, but I couldn't.
Me: Why in the hell would you go there?
Him: Because anime is awesome!
Me: Oh? I didn't know you liked it. What's your favorite?
Him: I started watching Naruto not too long ago.

By the time he said Naruto, I started walking faster toward my next class. -_-

Or when this chick that sits behind me in science always says, "You're still reading that Narudo (yes, saying it wrong on purpose, too) crap or whatever it's called? My cousin is like you." I want to punch that bitch in the face so much sometimes...
 
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"God he's been constipated for 5 episodes!Isn't he done yet?" (Referring to Goku going Super Saiyan in DBZ)

ah... stupid mother... he was powering up dammit! >.< she apparently didn't understand the significance >.<... ;P
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chronovoid said:

Mind if I say something? The same can be said for dubbed version also. Since you dun know japanese, all you know from watching dubs are voiced dialog in English between characters that is based on how good the translator is and that translator's interpretation. Since you dun know japanese, how come you are supposed to know whether the dub voice actors are overdoing or underdoing or doin just fine compared with original actors'?
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Since neither of us are fluent in Japanese then neither of us can compare the two different language versions. I have never claimed that the dub actors or that the dubbed versions are better or worse than the Japanese voice actors and version.What do I know from watching a dubbed shows is how good or bad the dubbed voice actors are,how much emotion the dubbed voice actor is putting into his role and whether or not the dubbed voice is cartoony like Micky Mouse, Invader Zim,Sponge Bob Square Pants or cartoony like the guy who does Batman's voice.You can't make a judgment those things on a show that is in a language that you are not fluent in. If I was fluent in Japanese then I would care if the voice acting is better in one version of the other and would be able to make comparisons of the ability of the voice actors.


Not quite. Those who watch subs can easily see whether the acting is over or under or just nice based on the rough(i m using the word rough here, since you should know it is quite difficult to translate between an East Asian language and a West European language.) translation of subtitles, which help us understand what's going on.


The only thing subtitles do is help understand the dialog that is being said between the characters , nothing more than that.
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ezikialrage said:
You can't make a judgment those things on a show that is in a language that you are not fluent in. If I was fluent in Japanese then I would care if the voice acting is better in one version of the other and would be able to make comparisons of the ability of the voice actors.


I am (relatively) fluent and I do prefer original Japanese audio in all cases, however I'm also fully aware that anime rarely uses "real" Japanese. Seiyuu are professionally trained voice talent, and they generally (some insane chars excluded) speak slowly and clearly and characters react to each other based on their scripts, they know what the other character just said because it's written in the script.

It's far worse talking to randoms on the street etc. Even normal native Japanese people don't understand what another person is saying half of the time, that's why when observing a real conversation they're always repeating themselves or questioning what the other person is saying to confirm the meaning. Japanese is a shitty language that makes no sense even to native Japanese.

That said, while I don't hate all dubs, and in fact give the vast majority a chance, I do prefer Japanese voice talent as a whole. But as I've said in the past, that's partly due to my American bias and disliking their accents in general. But I also find a lot of American dub acting to be flat and lifeless, there's little to no emotion put in to it, nothing comparable to the original audio. There are, of course, exceptions, but in general most American anime voice talent is just bad. Which is weird since some American cartoons/movies have brilliant voice talent. I don't see why they don't do anime and instead we're left with these hobos Funimation pays with rum to voice it.
 
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Most of the stuff I hear from them. :V

-Why are you reading that Chinese book?
-You look at porn HAHAHAHA
-aren't you too old for cartoons?
 
Feb 19, 2010 5:25 PM

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-Why are you reading that Chinese book?


Shit, forgot that one.
 
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"God he's been constipated for 5 episodes!Isn't he done yet?" (Referring to Goku going Super Saiyan in DBZ)

ah... stupid mother... he was powering up dammit! >.< she apparently didn't understand the significance >.<... ;P
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desolato said:
KazeFalcon said:
Me:I watch anime
A youtube user:"OMG!You watched hentai?"

Aoi_hana said:
that kinda happened to me too. but not on internet. real life.
Some guys from my class found out that I watch anime and told to others. They asked me kinda like: So... you watch anime? SO YOU KNOW ABOUT HENTAI? H.E.N.T.A.I..

And this is the thing that still strikes me as odd. These 'guys' aren't anime watchers, nor want anything to do with it, but they still know the word 'hentai'. Unless you've never read about anime, or tried to absorb yourself into it, how are you capable of knowing this? Before I started watching anime, I had never even heard of 'hentai'.

I would assume they've heard about it through porn sites. They have a lot of hentai...

Not like I go to those sites or anything.... *shifty eyes*

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I like when haters have anime DVD's xD
 
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greenwolf60 said:
My "friend" once said

"You only watch anime because you wish you were Japanese."

I don't see how watching anime will make me Japanese XDD


I get this all of the time.

"FUCK ANIME, I'M GOING CAR RACING."
 
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"Why do you watch that CHILDISH STUFF?"


"I bet your only watching that because you like to watch porn cartooni!"




 
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Liking Subs better than Dubs blahblahblahblah but you don't know Japanese.

It fits to me, and that's all that matters.

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Selkaine said:
desolato said:
KazeFalcon said:
Me:I watch anime
A youtube user:"OMG!You watched hentai?"

Aoi_hana said:
that kinda happened to me too. but not on internet. real life.
Some guys from my class found out that I watch anime and told to others. They asked me kinda like: So... you watch anime? SO YOU KNOW ABOUT HENTAI? H.E.N.T.A.I..

And this is the thing that still strikes me as odd. These 'guys' aren't anime watchers, nor want anything to do with it, but they still know the word 'hentai'. Unless you've never read about anime, or tried to absorb yourself into it, how are you capable of knowing this? Before I started watching anime, I had never even heard of 'hentai'.

I would assume they've heard about it through porn sites. They have a lot of hentai...

Not like I go to those sites or anything.... *shifty eyes*


^_^ oh... I suppose they heard it through those kind of sites... I also heard the words "hentai" and "hentai anime" after I watched some animes. (first heard of it -> 3-4 years ago.) =_=
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MisterSaito said:
Aoi_hana said:
or when non-anime ppl say they're cartoons ( even though they're animes =)) ...)

anime is a form of cartoon.


A7Xrawks said:
MisterSaito said:
Aoi_hana said:
or when non-anime ppl say they're cartoons ( even though they're animes =)) ...)

anime is a form of cartoon.
Right. But when someone said anime is "cartoon" it could also referring to american cartoons, which i hate it.


Yep. It's a form of cartoon but they're very different from those american cartoons. I watch american cartoons though ( like Foster Family for smth - title too long to remember -.-" , Disney Cartoons, Dexter, Ben 10, Jonny Test, Teen Titans... <-- but just an eps of two when I "catch" them on Cartoon Network ^^" I'm also a big fan of Tom & Jerry <3). So I don't really hate all american cartoons.
It bothers me though to put an equal sign between "anime" and "cartoons" =.=

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"Is anime Japanese or Asian?"

I'm not lying, I actually heard this shit!


O.O =))
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Feb 20, 2010 7:15 AM

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They often tell and ask me when Naruto subs/translations will be updated.

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Feb 20, 2010 8:28 AM

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"Don't you ever get bored?"

"You still watch cartoons?"

"Anime is so gay."
 
Feb 20, 2010 8:53 AM

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fai-san said:
"Don't you ever get bored?"



Same here, my parents often ask me that. And:
"Don't you watch anything with real people? Where they are moving and talking?" o_0


 
Feb 20, 2010 9:35 AM

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The anime haters are not at all that creative... They use to stick to only a few different sentences. No matter in what place of the world they are, they are all the same...
 
Feb 20, 2010 10:21 AM

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"Oh so you watch that stuff? mmm......."

Sometimes you don't even get a chance to respond because they just keep their preconceptions to themselves.

On the topic of subs and dubs, both have their merits and I don't think anyone should be faulted by preferring either.

However I do think it is true that something is lost when watching dubs. Assuming you know ZERO japanese, subs mean you're relying on the translator's accuracy. With dubs, you're at the mercy of the translators, AND the voice actors, who may or may not have been given proper direction. For all you know, they were handed the script and told to recite them into a microphone. (Which explains why some versions sound soooo dull).

It doesn't matter if its anime or a french film. The original voice actors were working with the other people making the show. The director, writers, staff were there collaborating to make the final product. I cant imagine watching something like, say, "The Kite Runner" dubbed entirely in english.

Of course there are exceptions ("Howl's Moving Castle" comes to mind). But to achieve that, requires no small effort on the part of the local director who had to have collaborated closely with the original studio.

I'm not telling anyone not to watch dubs. I know some people who are distracted by reading text on the screen. It's up to each person how they enjoy watching anime.

Oh, there's another advantage of watching subs. You might just get the interest to study japanese. Learning a new language is always good - your brain grows... or so I've heard. =P
 
Feb 20, 2010 10:48 AM

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Asako said:
ezikialrage said:
You can't make a judgment those things on a show that is in a language that you are not fluent in. If I was fluent in Japanese then I would care if the voice acting is better in one version of the other and would be able to make comparisons of the ability of the voice actors.


I am (relatively) fluent and I do prefer original Japanese audio in all cases, however I'm also fully aware that anime rarely uses "real" Japanese. Seiyuu are professionally trained voice talent, and they generally (some insane chars excluded) speak slowly and clearly and characters react to each other based on their scripts, they know what the other character just said because it's written in the script.

It's far worse talking to randoms on the street etc. Even normal native Japanese people don't understand what another person is saying half of the time, that's why when observing a real conversation they're always repeating themselves or questioning what the other person is saying to confirm the meaning. Japanese is a shitty language that makes no sense even to native Japanese.

That said, while I don't hate all dubs, and in fact give the vast majority a chance, I do prefer Japanese voice talent as a whole. But as I've said in the past, that's partly due to my American bias and disliking their accents in general. But I also find a lot of American dub acting to be flat and lifeless, there's little to no emotion put in to it, nothing comparable to the original audio. There are, of course, exceptions, but in general most American anime voice talent is just bad. Which is weird since some American cartoons/movies have brilliant voice talent. I don't see why they don't do anime and instead we're left with these hobos Funimation pays with rum to voice it.


I can actually appreciate your opinion since you are fluent in Japanese so you actually have something to base your opinion on. You can actually tell if one language version is better than the other. I always wondered this but which language version of Hellsing is better?




Aoi_hana said:
It bothers me though to put an equal sign between "anime" and "cartoons" =.=.


That is like saying it bothers you when some someone puts a equal sign between "Czechvar(Budweiser Budvar,not the American Budweiser)" and "Beer". Anime is a regional category of cartoons. There is nothing insulting or derogatory about referring to anime as cartoons. Some people will always equate cartoons to just being for kids,those people are ignorant and some people simply just do not like anything animated.
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Feb 20, 2010 12:02 PM

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"Why don't they speak English?"

"Why do they look weird?"


"Japanese people sound weird."


"Korea's bad! You shouldn't watch their anime!" (My brother's racist against Koreans)

But I hear more stupid things from anime fans. The ones who don't like it just complain about it not being English.

I don't get mad when people call anime cartoons as long as they don't try to make it sound like it's those kiddy Saturday morning ones since a few of them do have a plot such as Monster or Death Note.
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Feb 20, 2010 2:43 PM

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Selkaine said:
From an alleged anime fan: "Actually anime is from France, not Japan. Anime is a French word, you see. And French anime is soooo much better than Japanese anime."

Maybe she was trollin. Who knows.

MarisaKirisameZe said:
Hater: "Anime is so stupid, it's just child's play. Cosplayers, otakus, and all of the above are stupid too. How ridiculous can you guys be?"

Me: "Obviously you haven't given it a try. Therefore, you're the real idiot. To judge without any knowledge? How ridiculous can YOU be?"

~ A week after.

Same Hater: "I watched Lucky Star. I stick to my point."

Me: "What was your feelings out of it?"

Same Hater: "Stupid and idiotic. Had no point to it and I totally wasted my time. The voices were annoying and even the main character, Kanuato sucks. Which is a turn off in any show."

Me: "...Kanuato? ...Kanuato? ...BAKA! IT'S KONATA!"

~ Never spoke to him again cause he completely cussed me out. =]

Well OBVIOUSLY he's going to stick to his point. It's fucking Lucky Star. A show about basically nothing besides "otaku" and service for 2chan anons. He shoulda watched something with substance like Baccano and then come back. And PLEASE don't tell me you actually said "baka." WHY OH WHY would you do that!? As if the American Idol narutard didn't ruin it for all of us already.


I should've put down that he watched sections of Bleach, Death Note, and One Peice before Lucky Star. It just so happened that we talked again after he finished Lucky Star.

Clearly, he's just not into it. He's a stubborn kid, who figures that cussing and arguing will solve problems. I dealt with him perfectly fine. "Baka" is something I say at anytime, for the hell of it. I don't think it matters whether I talk in a different language or not.
 
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MarisaKirisameZe said:

I should've put down that he watched sections of Bleach, Death Note, and One Peice before Lucky Star. It just so happened that we talked again after he finished Lucky Star.

Clearly, he's just not into it. He's a stubborn kid, who figures that cussing and arguing will solve problems. I dealt with him perfectly fine. "Baka" is something I say at anytime, for the hell of it. I don't think it matters whether I talk in a different language or not.

Wait. I'm lost. If he watches only mainstream anime, then why does he say anime is stupid? Oh. I think I answered my own question.

I'm a bandwagon whore

Ow. My Heart. <3
 
Feb 20, 2010 6:00 PM

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"whats that jap stuff like pokemon?"

"No couldn't be bothered reading subtitles"

to name a few
 
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