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Mar 19, 2017 9:16 PM
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Srsly, where do people find all these Elitists i keep hearing about?

The ones that say modern anime sucks and hate on everything that is new and hate casual shows and only like all the smart shows.

Were they really that common back in the early days of mal?

Cause in all honesty i have seen more anti-elitists than i see elitists. :/

Note: im just using the phrase they like to use, i know that the anti elitists are usually elitists themselves.]
i mean the generic boogey man elitists that casual like to claim exists
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Mar 19, 2017 9:17 PM
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I go to Indigo Plateau to find elitists
Mar 19, 2017 9:19 PM
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They're in hiding waiting till the next season comes out.
Mar 19, 2017 9:20 PM
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Sterps said:
They're in hiding waiting till the next season comes out.


next season is almost here tho and i still dont see them :o
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Mar 19, 2017 9:21 PM
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Scarlett_ryuken said:
Sterps said:
They're in hiding waiting till the next season comes out.


next season is almost here tho and i still dont see them :o


Gotta learn the art of war then. They'll come in and strike unexpectedly all at once.
Mar 19, 2017 9:25 PM
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Mar 19, 2017 9:26 PM
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Scarlett_ryuken said:
Sterps said:
They're in hiding waiting till the next season comes out.


next season is almost here tho and i still dont see them :o
He probably meant they will pop up to trash all the new highly anticipated shows.


But Where have you been the past few days? I personally don't care, but I'm not going to deny that they're aren't plenty of elitists. The real problem though, are the "anti-elitists". Since I became an active member on the forums, I've never really seen any elitists randomly going around trashing shows for no reason. It's usually always someone who makes a thread regarding topic that will no doubt attract elitists/wanna be elitists because they think it's cool.

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1598603
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OneNaughtyBear said:
Scarlett_ryuken said:


next season is almost here tho and i still dont see them :o
He probably meant they will pop up to trash all the new highly anticipated shows.


But Where have you been the past few days?

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1598603


i posted a few things in there, point?
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Mar 19, 2017 9:32 PM
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Oh boy, an elitist thread on monday. What a nice way to start the week.
Mar 19, 2017 9:33 PM

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Scarlett_ryuken said:
OneNaughtyBear said:
He probably meant they will pop up to trash all the new highly anticipated shows.


But Where have you been the past few days?

https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1598603


i posted a few things in there, point?
My point? Well if you didn't get my original point, then my new point is this thread is pointless. Asking about where are the "elitists" and yet you were just in a thread with some.
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OneNaughtyBear said:
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i posted a few things in there, point?
My point? Well if you didn't get my original point, then my new point is that you're a moron. Asking about where are the "elitists" and yet you were just in a thread with some.


pls point to me a NON shit post in that thread that actually hates modern anime for being MODERN
and not cause their taste dont align with what is new.
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Elitists don't exist.

Jolteon is the only good eevolution, btw.

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He's an elitist, she's an elitist, you're an elitist. *Squidward voice* We're all elitists.
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Scarlett_ryuken said:
Srsly, where do people find all these Elitists i keep hearing about?

The ones that say modern anime sucks and hate on everything that is new and hate casual shows and only like all the smart shows.

Were they really that common back in the early days of mal?

Cause in all honesty i have seen more anti-elitists than i see elitists. :/

Note: im just using the phrase they like to use, i know that the anti elitists are usually elitists themselves.]
i mean the generic boogey man elitists that casual like to claim exists

Because MAL never sound about it anymore.

if you went to my blogging site, whenever blog about Mirai Nikki or Charlotte is on top, there'll be some people shitting on it.
Mar 19, 2017 9:42 PM

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theres was a recent thread on an elitist who hated rezero but loved Erased and shouwa genroku

it seems the general definition of elitist has shifted to the more accurate description of anyone who feels their opinions are more impactful than others'
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You said:
Scarlett_ryuken said:
Srsly, where do people find all these Elitists i keep hearing about?

The ones that say modern anime sucks and hate on everything that is new and hate casual shows and only like all the smart shows.

Were they really that common back in the early days of mal?

Cause in all honesty i have seen more anti-elitists than i see elitists. :/

Note: im just using the phrase they like to use, i know that the anti elitists are usually elitists themselves.]
i mean the generic boogey man elitists that casual like to claim exists

Because MAL never sound about it anymore.

if you went to my blogging site, whenever blog about Mirai Nikki or Charlotte is on top, there'll be some people shitting on it.


o0 0o there we go, link to blog pls, ^ this is wat this thread was for, finding me new reasons to hate humanity
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they're regrouping after their defeat during the 27th anime war
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Mar 19, 2017 9:49 PM

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Scarlett_ryuken said:
You said:

Because MAL never sound about it anymore.

if you went to my blogging site, whenever blog about Mirai Nikki or Charlotte is on top, there'll be some people shitting on it.


o0 0o there we go, link to blog pls, ^ this is wat this thread was for, finding me new reasons to hate humanity

http://aminoapps.com/p/wyekx
http://aminoapps.com/p/dnybsm
http://aminoapps.com/p/hvy6wo

My own blog:
http://aminoapps.com/p/k10nza

There's still a lot of it but I'm just too lazy to search for it.
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You said:
Scarlett_ryuken said:


o0 0o there we go, link to blog pls, ^ this is wat this thread was for, finding me new reasons to hate humanity

http://aminoapps.com/p/wyekx
http://aminoapps.com/p/dnybsm
http://aminoapps.com/p/hvy6wo

My own blog:
http://aminoapps.com/p/k10nza

There's still a lot of it but I'm just too lazy to search for it.


what is the context of your eva blog?
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Scarlett_ryuken said:
You said:

http://aminoapps.com/p/wyekx
http://aminoapps.com/p/dnybsm
http://aminoapps.com/p/hvy6wo

My own blog:
http://aminoapps.com/p/k10nza

There's still a lot of it but I'm just too lazy to search for it.


what is the context of your eva blog?

Eva is better in a literal judging, but Elfen Lied is more enjoyable... I use to create thread about it here, only to be deleted by mods due to the amount of salt
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ah ok, well, good elitist salt to bring on my trip ^-^
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Well to sum it up, anyone who thinks their taste in anime is better is an elitist. That's how simple the definition is!

As long as you keep sprouting non-sense that this Person-X has shit taste for liking Anime-Z, then you're no different.

I wonder why we're making this too complicated. lol


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Scarlett_ryuken said:
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My point? Well if you didn't get my original point, then my new point is that you're a moron. Asking about where are the "elitists" and yet you were just in a thread with some.


pls point to me a NON shit post in that thread that actually hates modern anime for being MODERN
and not cause their taste dont align with what is new.
Hmmm. Post #2 seems to be what you're looking for....
Mar 19, 2017 10:27 PM

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I found one in a lake behind my house, an "eel it is" XD
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I've seen Serial Experiments Lain a few times so I think I qualify? I think that's how it works...
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They're hiding somewhere planning a coup on MAL soon. Better get ready OP.
Mar 19, 2017 10:37 PM

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Pretty sure elitism is just a frame of mind. You know like how other people think they have the best taste(which is impossible because I do).
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Pretty sure elitism is just a frame of mind. You know like how other people think they have the best taste(which is impossible because I do).


i know that, do the "anti elitist" hunters tho? :/
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I've seen Serial Experiments Lain a few times so I think I qualify? I think that's how it works...

You totally qualify with these elitist favorites. Care not to like anything actually enjoyable but only 'deep' and 'well written' shows...


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Scarlett_ryuken said:
desseroni said:
Pretty sure elitism is just a frame of mind. You know like how other people think they have the best taste(which is impossible because I do).


i know that, do the "anti elitist" hunters tho? :/

nooooooooo, elitists are part of fandom too, lol XD
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Scarlett_ryuken said:
desseroni said:
Pretty sure elitism is just a frame of mind. You know like how other people think they have the best taste(which is impossible because I do).


i know that, do the "anti elitist" hunters tho? :/


Probably not. Most of them just make posts hating stuff with no solid arguements.
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they're regrouping after their defeat during the 27th anime war

I wonder how long it will be before the general populace of AD forgets about the epic battles between Xinil and SSJMaster.

Truly a sight to behold.
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Anti-elitists are just idiots who don't get that most "elitists" are trolls or are simply miscategorised by them.

Kinda like anti-fascists nowadays. "<Insert name here> is a fascists! It's OK to punch a Nazi." Then they go off calling everyone a fascist.
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Oh boy, an elitist thread on monday. What a nice way to start the week.
"For you, the day you made a thread about elitists on MAL was a very important day in your life. But for the anime community, it was Monday."

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Jolteon is the only good eevolution, btw.
Well, it IS one of only two gen 1 mons that can relatively safely produce that CHA-CHANG super-effectiveness sound against Alakazam and Mewtwo, so that's gotta be worth something.

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it seems the general definition of elitist has shifted to the more accurate description of anyone who feels their opinions are more impactful than others'
Honestly I'm inclined to agree with this observation -- it's not about one's tastes so much as it is about certain people's tendency to try to lord it over others.

The fandom DOES have preferences for certain shows over others, as a general rule -- ask for general recs and you'll almost certainly get Cowboy Bebop and Baccano, you might get Angel Beats and Death Note, you'll occasionally get Nanoha and Crest of the Stars, and you'll almost never get Umi Monogatari and Kiddy Grade, for example.

But statistics are computable for any such grouping. What's more important is what people do with these statistics. Some people like to use them to establish social superiority one way or another, either by using that as a social meterstick or fighting against it.

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I found one in a lake behind my house, an "eel it is" XD
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Scarlett_ryuken said:
Srsly, where do people find all these Elitists i keep hearing about?

This time, I made sure to bookmark a particularly elitist reply just to answer this question.


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OneNaughtyBear said:
My point? Well if you didn't get my original point, then my new point is that you're a moron. Asking about where are the "elitists" and yet you were just in a thread with some.


pls point to me a NON shit post in that thread that actually hates modern anime for being MODERN
and not cause their taste dont align with what is new.

Please do note that anybody who espouses an "Elitist" viewpoint is elitist. Regardless of how serious that person is.
When I see somebody killing people, I will not ask whether they're doing it ironically.

Also, "elitist" is exactly about people's taste not aligning with anything except a few works that suck up to elitists. A stereotypical elitist should like a modern show like Occultic;Nine just because it's hard to understand and inaccessible.
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The fandom DOES have preferences for certain shows over others, as a general rule -- ask for general recs and you'll almost certainly get Cowboy Bebop and Baccano, you might get Angel Beats and Death Note, you'll occasionally get Nanoha and Crest of the Stars, and you'll almost never get Umi Monogatari and Kiddy Grade, for example.

But statistics are computable for any such grouping. What's more important is what people do with these statistics. Some people like to use them to establish social superiority one way or another, either by using that as a social meterstick or fighting against it.

Idk how serious you are but comparing 4 of the most popular and acclaimed shows to some ecchi who 10k people have seen? I never see some of my favorites recommended either and its totally understandable, as some series/movies just arent that popular. A much more valid example would be comparing how often one of the shows you listed and Naruto/Bleach/Fairy Tail get recommended.


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in that anime snob's videos and comment section
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Elitists don't exist.

Jolteon is the only good eevolution, btw.


I prefer Espeon with Magic Bounce and a timid nature.

I wonder if elitism can be applied to Pokemon.
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codephat said:
Elitists don't exist.

Jolteon is the only good eevolution, btw.


I prefer Espeon with Magic Bounce and a timid nature.

I wonder if elitism can be applied to Pokemon.


go to youtube, go to the search bar, type verlisify enjoy
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If someone believes anime quality is objective then it means they're an elitist. If you make another thread asking people if they think anime quality is objective I bet you'll find loads of elitists. Elitist just means "someone who believes quality is determined by the opinions of the elite who have better taste than the rest and generally consider themselves to be one of these people". Casuals can be elitists just as long as they believe.
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If someone believes anime quality is objective then it means they're an elitist. If you make another thread asking people if they think anime quality is objective I bet you'll find loads of elitists. Elitist just means "someone who believes quality is determined by the opinions of the elite who have better taste than the rest and generally consider themselves to be one of these people". Casuals can be elitists just as long as they believe.


i know what it means :/ im asking all the casuals who think elitist == taste :/
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Johnnyd3rp said:
codephat said:
Elitists don't exist.

Jolteon is the only good eevolution, btw.


I prefer Espeon with Magic Bounce and a timid nature.

I wonder if elitism can be applied to Pokemon.


Both of you are incorrect. The answer is always Eevee. Why?



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in that anime snob's videos and comment section
Lol, why do need to mention Mr. Pretentious and his sheeples? If anything, they are bunch of drama queens with no sense of humor (I mean, OK I get FW's "adult dragonball" was dumb but you just made it dumber by using it with stupid jojokes and one liners)
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GlennMagusHarvey said:

The fandom DOES have preferences for certain shows over others, as a general rule -- ask for general recs and you'll almost certainly get Cowboy Bebop and Baccano, you might get Angel Beats and Death Note, you'll occasionally get Nanoha and Crest of the Stars, and you'll almost never get Umi Monogatari and Kiddy Grade, for example.

But statistics are computable for any such grouping. What's more important is what people do with these statistics. Some people like to use them to establish social superiority one way or another, either by using that as a social meterstick or fighting against it.

Idk how serious you are but comparing 4 of the most popular and acclaimed shows to some ecchi who 10k people have seen? I never see some of my favorites recommended either and its totally understandable, as some series/movies just arent that popular. A much more valid example would be comparing how often one of the shows you listed and Naruto/Bleach/Fairy Tail get recommended.
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say...

What I meant to say was that it's simply fact that some things are more popular than other things, and that that by itself isn't really as important as how people interpret this fact to suit whatever opinion they espouse or whatever point they want to make.

(Also I'd hesitate to call Kiddy Grade "ecchi" as it really doesn't have much more fanservice than a lot of things, and focusing on that basically misses what the story is about. So I've always disagreed with MAL's label there. But whatever. Forcing people to watch stuff one likes isn't something I want to do anyway.)
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I repent! I'm definitely not an elitist; I don't like, or even acknowledge, LOGTH, Berserk, or Monster. It's impossible.
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@GlennMagusHARVEY I just meant that when measuring the fandoms preferences by the number of recommendations, Kiddy Grade is no match for something like Cowboy Bebop/Angel Beats/Death Note as theyre overwhelmingly more popular so Naruto and Bleach would be better examples of even more popular series getting recommended less.


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I repent! I'm definitely not an elitist; I don't even like LOGTH, Berserk, or Monster. It's impossible.
I still haven't decided whether it's a good or a bad thing that I haven't seen most of the shows on these general rec lists.

Honestly it's probably neutral or good depending on what I'm in the mood for. I certainly don't hate these series for them being popular (though the amount to which LOGTH gets bandied around as The Show That People With Good Taste Always Praise can get rather excessive at times). Besides, of the ones I've seen, some I really like while others I found to fall flat for me.

Some people may say it's bad because I'm not getting exposure to more styles of anime, but then that leads to the question of "why do you watch anime?" to which my answer is "because I enjoy it", not "because I need to study it for class" or something.

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@GlennMagusHARVEY I just meant that when measuring the fandoms preferences by the number of recommendations, Kiddy Grade is no match for something like Cowboy Bebop/Angel Beats/Death Note as its overwhelmingly more popular so Naruto and Bleach would be better examples of even more popular series getting recommended less.
Ah I see what you mean. That's probably a more rigorous to look at it since it controls for base popularity.

I was thinking of including SAO, AOT, or Guilty Crown as examples but I figured they might be confusing for my point. But actually they could serve yours.
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GlennMagusHarvey said:
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I repent! I'm definitely not an elitist; I don't even like LOGTH, Berserk, or Monster. It's impossible.
I still haven't decided whether it's a good or a bad thing that I haven't seen most of the shows on these general rec lists.

Honestly it's probably neutral or good depending on what I'm in the mood for. I certainly don't hate these series for them being popular (though the amount to which LOGTH gets bandied around as The Show That People With Good Taste Always Praise can get rather excessive at times). Besides, of the ones I've seen, some I really like while others I found to fall flat for me.

Some people may say it's bad because I'm not getting exposure to more styles of anime, but then that leads to the question of "why do you watch anime?" to which my answer is "because I enjoy it", not "because I need to study it for class" or something.

It's never "bad;" though my recommendation is to ignore anything regarding taste and such, as long as you're able to find anime that you enjoy watching. When you're no longer able to find such anime then, I believe that, is the time to broaden your anime horizons, and get a taste for the most famous and acclaimed anime of each genre. Assuming you still want to watch anime.
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GlennMagusHarvey said:
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Oh boy, an elitist thread on monday. What a nice way to start the week.
"For you, the day you made a thread about elitists on MAL was a very important day in your life. But for the anime community, it was Monday."

...
If that post isn't ironic, there'd be so many things wrong in it that I wouldn't know where to start.
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GlennMagusHarvey said:
"For you, the day you made a thread about elitists on MAL was a very important day in your life. But for the anime community, it was Monday."

...
If that post isn't ironic, there'd be so many things wrong in it that I wouldn't know where to start.
I was mocking the commonness of this topic. Dunno if that counts as ironic.
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