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Mar 19, 2017 3:56 PM
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Hiya! I'm Babeeshka

I thought about how fun it might be to have a manga book club. I'm not sure if one already exists, if so I would love to join. If not, would others be on board with creating one?! ^^

I've considered how it would start. Everyone who would be interested in joining would add 1 or 2 mangas that they personally would like to read. We could do a random draw to decide what to read. Once we'd start, we'll have so many chapters to read every few days or once a week. Then to reach a stopping point to discuss it!

Let me know what you think. :)
please be nice ♥ confrontation makes me nervous x.x

Mar 19, 2017 4:08 PM
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I was invited to a manga club once and the experience was quite.. meh. Haha. It is basically a book/novel readers club except with a different material
Mar 20, 2017 6:12 AM
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Its kind of hard.

There are not that many users joining manga clubs. I've looked at 20 pages of clubs with the title "manga" in them, and only 2 of those where active in the last month (including my own club).

And then you'd still have to get them to read a manga that was selected for them. I tried a reading challenge at one point, and only 2 people even considered participating.

All in all, its not that easy sadly.
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Mar 20, 2017 6:16 AM
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The one I was (still am) in we did a very similar thing. We'd suggest manga and the two with the most votes would be chosen for monthly reading (as well as a randomly generated manga) and we'd discuss them.

It was rather fun, but the club is on Hiatus now which is a shame.







Mar 20, 2017 9:04 AM
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I would love to join club like that. I read a lot of manga anyway and I would like to discuss it with others. If you guys want to start something like that please let me know :D
Mar 20, 2017 11:19 AM
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Ehhh

Just name it "manga club"

The "book" there just sounded weird and repetitive.
Mar 20, 2017 12:50 PM
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I was in a manga reading club but I never participated in it. To be honest, I actually forgot I was even in it until I read this thread and remembered about it. Feel kinda bad about that. It was the Antiquity Manga Club. Pretty sure it is the same club that @ClavisM is in. Didn't know it was on hiatus until just now.

If anyone starts a club or if the one I mentioned becomes active again I'd be sure to participate. The backlog of manga I once had is starting to dwindle and I'd be interested in finding something new.
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Mar 20, 2017 4:06 PM
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All said:
Its kind of hard.

There are not that many users joining manga clubs. I've looked at 20 pages of clubs with the title "manga" in them, and only 2 of those where active in the last month (including my own club).

And then you'd still have to get them to read a manga that was selected for them. I tried a reading challenge at one point, and only 2 people even considered participating.

All in all, its not that easy sadly.


I definitely can see now how it would be difficult. I feel like with even only a few people, it would still be enjoyable and maybe easier to manage.
Life can get busy and it would be nice if it could be simple so it can last. It would also make it easier to choose what to read.
And of course there would have to have a better name than just a manga club or whatever. lol

Thank you ^^
Mar 20, 2017 4:51 PM
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Yeah this idea sounds great
I'd go retro and keep Book Club but take out manga
we're already on MAL so any book would just mean ln/vn/os/manga anyway ;]
Mar 20, 2017 7:00 PM

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Alright! :) I'm definitely gonna make something happen!
Mar 20, 2017 7:04 PM

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babeeshka said:
All said:
Its kind of hard.

There are not that many users joining manga clubs. I've looked at 20 pages of clubs with the title "manga" in them, and only 2 of those where active in the last month (including my own club).

And then you'd still have to get them to read a manga that was selected for them. I tried a reading challenge at one point, and only 2 people even considered participating.

All in all, its not that easy sadly.


I definitely can see now how it would be difficult. I feel like with even only a few people, it would still be enjoyable and maybe easier to manage.
Life can get busy and it would be nice if it could be simple so it can last. It would also make it easier to choose what to read.
And of course there would have to have a better name than just a manga club or whatever. lol

Thank you ^^

It's very generic thing (club). Clubs gather people that like similar things.
For example I'm in a yuri club. We talk about new animes with yuri, "best couple", yuri in games/real shows... You know, it's all about "yuri".
In your case you want to create club for manga about/with: porn, history, sc-fi, fantasy, magical girls, sports, homosexual love (yuri/yaoi)... cute things doing cute things... This already exist in form of particular club (e.g. yuri: I<3 shoujo ai & yuri club), so your idea is redundant.
Mar 21, 2017 11:02 AM

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Yep same club, it's been on Hiatus a while sadly, it was a great club when it was really active.







Mar 28, 2017 5:14 AM

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I would be keen to join this club if you decide to make it. :) Of course, you can expect that not everyone will be active every week, but if you're committed to managing it properly and promoting it a little, maybe it'll work out.

Wannabiteme said:

It's very generic thing (club). Clubs gather people that like similar things.
For example I'm in a yuri club. We talk about new animes with yuri, "best couple", yuri in games/real shows... You know, it's all about "yuri".
In your case you want to create club for manga about/with: porn, history, sc-fi, fantasy, magical girls, sports, homosexual love (yuri/yaoi)... cute things doing cute things... This already exist in form of particular club (e.g. yuri: I<3 shoujo ai & yuri club), so your idea is redundant.


I think there's value in a club that doesn't specialize in any one genre or demographic. It would push people to read something outside of what they normally read. There's a whole world of content out there.
Mar 28, 2017 6:28 AM

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Amber_Changing said:
I would be keen to join this club if you decide to make it. :) Of course, you can expect that not everyone will be active every week, but if you're committed to managing it properly and promoting it a little, maybe it'll work out.

Wannabiteme said:

It's very generic thing (club). Clubs gather people that like similar things.
For example I'm in a yuri club. We talk about new animes with yuri, "best couple", yuri in games/real shows... You know, it's all about "yuri".
In your case you want to create club for manga about/with: porn, history, sc-fi, fantasy, magical girls, sports, homosexual love (yuri/yaoi)... cute things doing cute things... This already exist in form of particular club (e.g. yuri: I<3 shoujo ai & yuri club), so your idea is redundant.


I think there's value in a club that doesn't specialize in any one genre or demographic. It would push people to read something outside of what they normally read. There's a whole world of content out there.

graph.anime.plus has been already doing this.
ps. And I got invitation to club like this: https://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=73313&time=1490569694 Meh.
Mar 28, 2017 7:19 AM

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Wannabiteme said:

graph.anime.plus has been already doing this.
ps. And I got invitation to club like this: https://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=73313&time=1490569694 Meh.


Aah, that club. I remember the creator spammed me in a pretty dirty way.
Mar 28, 2017 7:38 PM

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Wannabiteme said:

graph.anime.plus has been already doing this.
ps. And I got invitation to club like this: https://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=73313&time=1490569694 Meh.


Neither of those are really book clubs though? There are plenty of clubs on MAL for discussing anime. A book club seems like it would be more structured than most, so it provides something that the others don't. Either way, there's nothing wrong with having more options.
Mar 29, 2017 6:59 AM

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Amber_Changing said:
Wannabiteme said:

graph.anime.plus has been already doing this.
ps. And I got invitation to club like this: https://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=73313&time=1490569694 Meh.


Neither of those are really book clubs though? There are plenty of clubs on MAL for discussing anime

It's anime and manga club. It's good enough.
graph.anime.plus is not a club but a system to show you what kind of stuff you like (genres, year....).
. A book club seems like it would be more structured than most, so it provides something that the others don't. Either way, there's nothing wrong with having more options.

https://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?catid=0&cn=book&action=find Having "valuable" options is better.
Mar 29, 2017 8:14 AM

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Wannabiteme said:
Amber_Changing said:


Neither of those are really book clubs though? There are plenty of clubs on MAL for discussing anime

It's anime and manga club. It's good enough.
graph.anime.plus is not a club but a system to show you what kind of stuff you like (genres, year....)


The club in the link has 0 discussions about manga. I think that rules it out in terms of being a manga club. And graph.anime.plus only tells you your stats. It doesn't allow any interactions with others.

Wannabiteme said:
Amber_Changing said:
A book club seems like it would be more structured than most, so it provides something that the others don't. Either way, there's nothing wrong with having more options.

https://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?catid=0&cn=book&action=find Having "valuable" options is better.


Every club in that link is essentially dead. Take a look at the dates of the last comments/posts. There is no recent activity. I can't help but wonder, why are you so opposed to the start of a new manga club?
Mar 29, 2017 8:32 AM

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TFO1013 said:

Every club in that link is essentially dead. Take a look at the dates of the last comments/posts. There is no recent activity. I can't help but wonder, why are you so opposed to the start of a new manga club?

It's because it's waste of space & time?
People have made such clubs and they have failed. Why you want to a create club that will fail? Why not contribute to old clubs?
Ugh...
Mar 29, 2017 8:32 AM

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I might be shamelessly promoting with this, but i currently already run a manga club. Not completely the same as the book club described by OP, but i hope it is an alternative for some.

https://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=72953
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Wannabiteme said:
TFO1013 said:

Every club in that link is essentially dead. Take a look at the dates of the last comments/posts. There is no recent activity. I can't help but wonder, why are you so opposed to the start of a new manga club?

It's because it's waste of space & time?
People have made such clubs and they have failed. Why you want to a create club that will fail? Why not contribute to old clubs?
Ugh...


It's not your space or time, so it's not really your concern, right?

If there were an active club that you could point us to that achieves the same things that this club would, then maybe we could join it. But if the only other options are dead clubs, then trying to revive them seems like it would be more hassle and less effective than just creating a new club.

And you're saying that people shouldn't make new clubs because they might fail? If everyone had that mentality then there wouldn't be any clubs to begin with.

When it comes down to it, if you're not interested in a manga book club, then just don't be a part of it. Other people are free to create and join whatever club they choose.
Mar 29, 2017 5:42 PM

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It's not your space or time, so it's not really your concern, right?

Ugh... yeah, but it concern people that search for such clubs.


If there were an active club that you could point us to that achieves the same things that this club would, then maybe we could join it. But if the only other options are dead clubs, then trying to revive them seems like it would be more hassle and less effective than just creating a new club.

So, are you going to create the club EVERY time the club become dead?


And you're saying that people shouldn't make new clubs because they might fail? If everyone had that mentality then there wouldn't be any clubs to begin with.

Ugh... yes, if there are another clubs with THE SAME topic... and the clubs are dead... then it's stupid to create another one.



When it comes down to it, if you're not interested in a manga book club, then just don't be a part of it. Other people are free to create and join whatever club they choose.

Create myriads of clubs with only 1-2 members...sure, you can... but should you?
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@Amber_Changing

It's not your space or time, so it's not really your concern, right?

Ugh... yeah, but it concern people that search for such clubs.


If there were an active club that you could point us to that achieves the same things that this club would, then maybe we could join it. But if the only other options are dead clubs, then trying to revive them seems like it would be more hassle and less effective than just creating a new club.

So, are you going to create the club EVERY time the club become dead?


And you're saying that people shouldn't make new clubs because they might fail? If everyone had that mentality then there wouldn't be any clubs to begin with.

Ugh... yes, if there are another clubs with THE SAME topic... and the clubs are dead... then it's stupid to create another one.



When it comes down to it, if you're not interested in a manga book club, then just don't be a part of it. Other people are free to create and join whatever club they choose.

Create myriads of clubs with only 1-2 members...sure, you can... but should you?


1. You know what really concerns people searching for such clubs? Dead clubs. That's a real waste of space. Rather than discouraging people from creating new clubs, there should be some kind of system for purging long-dead clubs, freeing up space and saving everybody time.

2. If new people come along who want to create a club and find that there is no active club matching their idea, then why not? It injects new life into the club scene.

3. Even if the club is short-lived, if it provided some entertainment/a sense of community to the members, then it had value. Besides, there's always a chance that some dedicated members will join and the club will grow and survive.

4. Look, I get that having lots of little clubs like that is basically clutter, and not ideal. Which is why I'll say again that I think there should be a system for purging unused clubs.

With that said, I don't think you should be discouraging the creation of clubs because they might die. It's just a very negative attitude to take towards something that is meant to be fun.
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1) I think merging would be better... deleting one club and creating another is not a solution. By deleting club, you lose valuable content. On other hand, you will go into infinite loop of: create club -> delete club.
2) No, it makes duplicate content. For example you ask for "pick your topic" in 3 clubs; club A will post z,x,c animes, club B will post x,c,v, club C will post c,z,b anime. That's stupid. I (somebody) have to go to 3 clubs for one answer.
3) For short-lived thing, without connection (except "this is book/manga") - a new topic is sufficient. Do you/anyone have to have a "member badge"?
Then revive old club. There is better chance that members will get notification from club than they will find another club.
4) read 1)


With that said, I don't think you should be discouraging the creation of clubs because they might die. It's just a very negative attitude to take towards something that is meant to be fun.

I'm ok with creating clubs about a new, fresh idea. I'm not ok with creating repeats the failure of other, older clubs. It's not "negative" attitude... it's realistic attitude.

ps. ugh... I might forgot about something.
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@Wannabiteme

1. Merging could be an option, but personally I wouldn't be thrilled if my club were suddenly merged with another dead club, full of old threads that have nothing to do with the active club members. As for purging, it would only really be applicable to clubs that have been dead for years. By that point, I'd expect anyone who cared about those conversations is long gone/moved on.

Also, there's nothing inherently wrong with an infinite loop of creation and desctruction. Such is life?


2. I'm not 100% sure what you were trying to say here, but if new people start a new club and create a new discussion about an old topic, then it's still new to those people.

3. Old clubs aren't that easy to revive. The problem is that the reason these old clubs are dead is because their members aren't very active anymore. There's no guarantee that anyone will reply, or enough people for the thread to have felt worthwhile. Whereas if you start a new club the members will likely be more active and interested in conversing.

Wannabiteme said:

I'm ok with creating clubs about a new, fresh idea. I'm not ok with creating repeats the failure of other, older clubs. It's not "negative" attitude... it's realistic attitude.


However, there are positive ways of expressing ideas, and negative ways of expressing ideas. The things you were saying seemed to be aimed at discouraging the OP.

P.S. . . . What?
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However, there are positive ways of expressing ideas, and negative ways of expressing ideas. The things you were saying seemed to be aimed at discouraging the OP.

Fine! But your attitude is delusional.


Also, there's nothing inherently wrong with an infinite loop of creation and desctruction. Such is life?

No, life is about learning/evolving. Sure, we all are gonna die but we made our life better (for future generation). We don't start from the concept of wheel every decade/century.
It's more efficient....


2. I'm not 100% sure what you were trying to say here, but if new people start a new club and create a new discussion about an old topic, then it's still new to those people.

It's the new "thing(s)" but it has been already there in some part. The new people could just read old topic and they could add their 5 cent to that topic.
Let me give you an example:
What would you like to read:
- 1 book - 300 pages - whole topic, you won't find anything new in other books/media
- 600 pages without order (there is no "first page"); some pages are going to have similar content to other pages; you will read 300 pages of unique content/things; another 300 pages is going to have things that you have already read


3. Old clubs aren't that easy to revive. The problem is that the reason these old clubs are dead is because their members aren't very active anymore. There's no guarantee that anyone will reply, or enough people for the thread to have felt worthwhile. Whereas if you start a new club the members will likely be more active and interested in conversing.

Do you have proof? I have posted my "anti" proof already.

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