Why are people praising this show so much?

GangsterCat said:
1.isekai
2.time reset
3.waifu

TobiOrNotTobi said:


A waifu doesn't make the show good... just saying...

Illyricus said:
Say that to the 12210 people who has Rem in favourites. It's more, there are a lot of people who only gave a 10 to the series just for Rem (watch the 18th episode of the series and you will understand).

ToG25thBaam said:
its edgy and everrrbody likes edgy stuff, didja see ep 15

Jagd84 said:
Because

1. It's not your typical Isekai.
   
2. It's pretty well written story doesn't exist just to scream about how awesome it's MC is.
   
3. It fosters good development for Subaru which transforms him from a typical NEET and into actual hero.
   
4. Most of the characters clearly have their own agency and goals that don't revolve around Subaru.
   
5. Has intriguing world lore and mystery that slowly reveals itself as the story progress encouraging theorycraft about how and why Subaru was brought this world.
   
6. Fantastic directing, with proper mood transitions and setup.
   
7. Good audiovisual that enhance it's story especially in it's most dramatic moments.
   
8. People have opinions.
   

samahin said:

While i agreed on your points to a certain degree, i dont understand why do you put character development into your list-of-pros of the show. It lacks character development, if there's any. Even for the MC. That's the major reason why people dislike this show, or so I thought. Subaru is annoying

TobiOrNotTobi said:


A waifu doesn't make the show good... just saying...

AX3M said:
You ask that? Aren't you seeing a lot of things to consider here? Execution that hooks everyone, polarizing characters who are either so loved or so hated but realistic, fantasy world with interesting elements, unpredictable turning points, cliffhangers, foreshadowings, thrillers, and time travel in a unique way which leads to complex plot. But honestly if you didn't enjoy most of these aspects then you are doomed to feel awful, and even eventually start hating it.

TobiOrNotTobi said:

I love fantasy and all the stuff the show has, but it's just the storyline.... I think they could have done better (from what I've seen so far).

Jagd84 said:


This personally has been one of the most interesting fantasy shows I've watched in a long time. Very few shows kept on the edge of my seat as this one has done nor have intrigue me as much with it's overall lore and how it affects Subaru and story in general like this. Part of that is beyond RBD Subaru is just a regular human who forced live and adapt to this dangerous new world within his own limits. He has no idea why Satella brought him here or what future plans she might have for him, not to mention (his own mysterious connections to the Witch Cult through the witch's scent) but all he could do is just try to survive and make what little life he can as it is as he drawn deeper into a larger conflict that is far bigger than he is.

teubert2 said:



^Exactly what I'd say. I feel it is very realistic as I can genuinely imagine someone from real life act the way Natsuki Subaru does to what he goes through. I know I might if I was younger. . I believe haters just fail to see what we see in that anime. Just like how I usually (but not always) suck at reading between the lines in poems and short stories and thus won't find much enjoyment from reading them, there are also people that won't gain what I got from watching this anime.

Different people have different views of the world around them.

SolidWoIf said:
the mc is really good compared to most protagonists of boy stuck in another world

MortalMelancholy said:
I've only ever seen people praising the best grills, so they must be particularly good waifu material. Yes, it's awful if you aren't just looking for waifus.

MortalMelancholy said:
I've only ever seen people praising the best grills, so they must be particularly good waifu material. Yes, it's awful if you aren't just looking for waifus.

Lol, good as in an annoying bitch that's even worse than Shinji Ikari, but also as a permanent character trait?

PRT said:


YES, I do think he was a Shinji inspire dumbass character at the begining... because of that I really enjoyed watch him die (yes I like guro scenes just for the heck of it) in incredible horrible ways, but at the end, he grow a pair (which Shinji never did) and becomes a decent MC..

RE ZEro is no master piece, is not for everyone, has a love it or hate it plot, but for myself I enjoyed it very much... It leave me with the sense of having learn something because of watching this anime...

MortalMelancholy said:

It wouldn't be so bad if any of the consequences to MC's mistakes had any sort of permanence. But nah, it's like "whoops, let's try that again. And again, as desired."

MortalMelancholy said:

It wouldn't be so bad if any of the consequences to MC's mistakes had any sort of permanence. But nah, it's like "whoops, let's try that again. And again, as desired."

MortalMelancholy said:
Lol, good as in an annoying bitch that's even worse than Shinji Ikari, but also as a permanent character trait?

Bantarific said:
T. I hesitate to say they "just don't get it" because that makes me sound like an elitist, .

ashfrliebert said:
It's main selling point seems to be it being a different take on Isekai

I've read all the available, bootleggable WN material, meh, it's fine at what is does (note - Subaru more competent from after the point that anime ends, courtesy of Roswaal. if you couldn't somehow figure that out from the White Whale's defeat).

ashfrliebert said:
The fact that it's MC is "fucking dumb" is I think sorta the point here, he's a flawed human being, a shut-in thrown into a fantasy world. Except given the chance to [always] succeed at the cost of mental insanity.

Frankly, there are no real actual stakes in the series, web novel or otherwise, I guess people need those. I guess I don't.

ashfrliebert said:
People like Re:Zero because anime fans seem to have a hard-on for deconstructions - see also One Punch Man.


The main character's actions have consequences [in his mind] is the whole point of the series though. This is like criticizing One Punch Man for having an overpowered character, this is completely failing to see the show for what it is.

ashfrliebert said:

If Shinji motherfucking Ikari is your example, I don't know..you're just failing to see the appeal of a flawed character for some reason.

Besides the coma scene, Shinji is completely and totally understandable in everything he does. Given his absolutely abysmal circumstances.

ashfrliebert said:

I don't

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My problem with it is, besides, Subaru, everything else kinda seems to be "generic fantasy". The web novel elabrates alot on the characters though to make them basically all inversions and deconstructions, but it takes awhile.

MortalMelancholy said:

To me, it seems to be a different take on harem,

where the MC is garbage instead of generic. The Isekai aspects don't seem to be any different than usual.

It's not that he's dumb (he's actually not that dumb),

he's just a conceited asshole who thinks he's a special snowflake. In a way, he is;

and the show glorifies this.

It's been a while; how was this a deconstruction?

And OPM isn't really comparable; it's a parody, and isn't meant to be taken with a hint of seriousness.

If you compared it to say, Madoka, Madoka adds responsibility and realism, while Isekai takes them away. Things that have real consequences will also have an effect on your mind; taking away the physical permanence is taking over 90% of it away.

Shinji is a good example of a flawed character, and despite being annoying, makes sense as a personality.

Suzuki is a poor example of an asshole who is favored by god (the author).

Most viewers who do like the show (namely, casuals), like it for the action, and/or for the waifus. They probably don't "get it" either. And I agree; the fantasy setting portrayed in the anime gives no context for any sort of deconstruction.

ashfrliebert said:

This series is not even remotely harem. It has one romantic relationship and one dependent one. The romance theme in the anime last for a total ONE episode. It's not about harem, it's barely about romance at all. People just fixatate on the romantic relationship and picking best girl or whatever. When the series has little to do with that.

I don't know why it even exists. That Rem scene was pretty great, but the romance might as well be as existent as the romance in One Piece. It's really..just not there.

The Rem scene was important because Subaru had lost pretty much all hope for everything by that point and then Rem went on an episode long monologue on why he's not useless, that was great. That's all the romance this series *really* has, even all the way up to Arc 6. There was that one time in Arc 4 where Emilia fails in a loop and goes insane and says she loves Subaru, but I'm not sure that counts.

ashfrliebert said:
episode long monologue

ashfrliebert said:

But Isekai characters are usually overpowered instead of garbage, that alone is different than usual.

ashfrliebert said:

No, he IS dumb. Relative to the fantastical world he is thrown in, he knows absolutely nothing about the world he's living in. That's dumb. He can't help that, but it's the way it is.

ashfrliebert said:

Yes, yes he is.

No - it doesn't. He constantly tried to gain sympathy for the pain he got and came across as complete maniac instead by the rest of the cast. It was only until he ACTUALLY did something, The White Whale battle, that he gains vindication.

He goes mentally insane by one point and all the characters in the series view him as such when he that happens.

ashfrliebert said:

He's weak, for one. Unlike 99% of all other isekais..that I've seen.

ashfrliebert said:

Re:Zero isn't a parody admittedly, but it's a deconstruction, which One Punch Man is in a way.

ashfrliebert said:

So?? This is the premise of the show, I don't see what you're trying to say. Are you saying taking away physical permanence takes away the suspense? In 99% of all series you know the protagonist is going to win anyway, this series simply takes you into the mind of a physically useless one who gets infinite tries.

ashfrliebert said:

Well since he's fourteen-year-old boy forced to pilot a robot against aliens by his estranged father. Obviously, I think he makes perfect sense.

ashfrliebert said:

You mean Subaru. He's actually favored by a mentally insane witch, but the show doesn't really go in-depth with that.

ashfrliebert said:

I like some of the characters more, especially after seeing the WN (Otto, Roswaal, Betty) but I admit the characters aren't really *that* strong (besides Subaru). It's just fun to see the machinations of Return by Death and the growing competence of the main character.

ashfrliebert said:
I don't know, Shinji a fourteen year boy forced to pilot a robot against aliens by his estranged father and live with obnoxious people (read - Misato and Asuka) in a horribly messy apartment. Subaru's a nineteen-year-old forced to live in a fantasy world, with all sorts of monsters, but a nice group of people and a pretty decent mansion..plus he's immortal. Kinda the same, but not really. Evangelion is also far more realistic...pre-instrumentatliy anyway. Evangelion cast of characters are also leagues and leagues above Re:Zero, for what that counts for.

MortalMelancholy said:

Rem, Remilia, Beatrice, and that green-haired girl. It certainly qualifies as harem.

And though harem, ecchi, and romance may not be the focus, those are the aspects that most watchers actually like about the show.

If those were all male characters, and MC just had a similarly good relationship with them, it would obviously be an entirely different series (that attracts an entirely different audience aka fujoshi).

Everything is wrong with the fact that such a thing existed.

Not really. Isekai MCs have to have some sort of "cheat." Isuzu obviously has this; the show isn't any different from any other isekai aside from the MC's disgusting personality.

Dumb colloquially refers to intelligence; Mitsubishi seems to be reasonably average in this aspect (though his personality obviously leads him to poor life decisions). If you mean to say that in the episode where he was captured by beetlejuice, he was dumb (unable or unwilling to speak), then yes; he was literally dumb at one point in the anime.

No, this show is clearly "self-masturbatory content" for the author. The plot deliberately gives depressing fates to characters (Emilia dying to witch, Rem dying to dog, etc etc), while focusing on MC using his special snowflake abilities to save the day.

Him trying to get sympathy/recognition is a just a portion of his bad personality, which was only relevant at one point (his bad personality, that is) when they considered him a maniac, and is mostly ignored.

Explain? In Onepunch Man's case, only a single trope was deconstructed (OP MC); if that qualifies something as a deconstruction, you could label nearly anything as such.

Well, the reason I made this point was to explain why Re:Zero isn't a deconstruction. Taking away physical permanence takes away a lot of things; namely, the karma.

But more importantly, favored by the author.

As far as the anime went, the MC was never became particularly competent, just more and more insufferable as he became more and more reliant on his power.

My point in bringing up Evangelion is that Nissan is more annoying than Shinji, in spite of Shinji being younger and more emotionally stressed.