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| So basically Super's way of doing a WWE Battle Royale. Well seems interesting. Overall pretty average fight. It was basically Goku doing hit and runs to make Bergamo stronger and then use that power against him. Bergamo: "We just want to live in peace" Goku: I want to fight strong guys" Goku in a nutshell. Hopefully Toppo can win this match. We have to see how powerful Toppo is, beating Goku would be real meaningful. Ol episode. |
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Whether Bergamo is underhanded or not, those are the words I've been really wanting to say.....Goku, once the Earth's Protector, now reduced into a battle-hungry blockhead ignorant Dr. Robotnik joined the fray! Now complete with Saitou Hajime's signature words, hooray! Go go Dr. Robotnik, teach the stupid Goku a lesson! |
 (っ◔◡◔)っ 𝓘 𝔀𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝔀𝓸𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓯𝓾𝓵 𝓭𝓪𝔂 ♥ |
| Great episode. Fight animation was pretty good and it was pretty intense in the opening moments when Goku and Bergamo were going full close combat. Once Bergamo started growing and using Goku's power the fight became pretty easy for Goku to turn around. The final beam clash was super awesome. xD We getting Royal Rumble, DB style. XD Rayrin said: Whether Bergamo is underhanded or not, those are the words I've been really wanting to say.....Goku, once the Earth's Protector, now reduced into a battle-hungry blockhead ignorant Someone said the same thing in one of the earlier episodes, I do agree with this to a certain extent, they have kinda turned him into a battle-craved person. Though I think they said that the whole erasing universe thing was already being planned and that this tournament provided a good outlet for that. So, I suppose we can cut Goku some slack since he's at least given the universes a chance to survive. Dr. Robotnik joined the fray! Now complete with Saitou Hajime's signature words, hooray! Go go Dr. Robotnik, teach the stupid Goku a lesson! This. XDD |
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| Battle Royale? That is actually a lot better. And it means everyones going for Goku's ass. |
| Bergamo was interesting, and that little bout at the beginning of the match was great. However Goku seemed like he was leagues ahead. It seems like the only reason Bergamo was able to push back the Kamehameha was because he had been significantly powered up by Goku. At least, that's my interpretation. I also found it strange how many of the gods were so easily swayed by Bergamo's words considering the Grand Priest and Whis had just explained that the bottom eight universes were going to be erased anyways. Goku at least gave them a fighting chance. Silly writing, I suppose? |
MyCoinsYourPurseMar 4, 2017 11:17 PM
| is there a reason why Goku and Vegeta have not made Gohan, Goten and Trunks Super blue's now? Wouldn't it to make sense to make them SS blue's for this upcoming fight? Toriyama better think about that. |
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| Oh wow, the tournament is a single match? Really wasn't expecting that. XD |
| Is it wrong that I'm cheering for Goku's enemies now? |
| Hah, that was unexpected, Goku goin SSJB with kaioken and showing his trump card to everyone. Although it was for short time, all the gods were terrified of some mortal possesing god ki. I hope they'll make something really super for the upcoming tournament, like another SSJB lvl or new technique. The fight was quick and intense, but too much talking. Bergamo's ability so smiliar to androids and Yakon. So Toppo fight now? Isn't it going too fast? Like they want to end DB in just few more episodes. Btw, Super shown us really bad drawings, especially with the people in the background. There's gonna be plenty of characters all around on the fighting stage, so I'm thinking what will they show now. Is it gonna be like two good or mediocre characters and a bunch of ugly figures? |
blade81tabrisMar 5, 2017 1:09 AM
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| Lol everyone would go for goku in battle royal. |
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E10phoenix said: Everyone talking about wheter Goku is evil or not...Is nobody gonna comment on how Goku can simply use Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-Ken whenever he wants now with no drawbacks??? That is the definition of 'OP' lol. I'm pretty sure that was just Toei too lazy to make Goku feel pain after using SSB Kaioken so that's why Goku can using that ability whatever he want. |
| inb4 Tien Tri Beam'ing everyone out of the ring |
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| dont know how to feel about battle royale i think it's going to be bad I hope battle royale aren't going to be the only stage |
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| Didn't like the episode.Why did Bergamo had to increase in size if he gets hit?Just receiving power would be enough.That made him quite vulnerable and actually ruined the fight for me.The rules were interesting especially the fact that there will be only one match which everyone will participate.That hooded guy the moment he revealed himself I lost all my hype for him just like with Kylo Ren.What a shitty design!I don't really care for this battle just start to form the team already. |
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sullynathan said: is there a reason why Goku and Vegeta have not made Gohan, Goten and Trunks Super blue's now? Wouldn't it to make sense to make them SS blue's for this upcoming fight? Toriyama better think about that. Yay! Everyone gets to be SSJB as easily as giving out trophies for participating. |
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Janethan23 said: we've already passed that point a while ago. We now know how easy it is for a Saiyan to become a God. Do the trick for all the living Saiyan's So that universe 7 increases their chance for victory in this fight. sullynathan said: is there a reason why Goku and Vegeta have not made Gohan, Goten and Trunks Super blue's now? Wouldn't it to make sense to make them SS blue's for this upcoming fight? Toriyama better think about that. Yay! Everyone gets to be SSJB as easily as giving out trophies for participating. There is no reason to hold back anymore. |
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| So Goku no longer feels that much pain after using SSJB-kaio-ken. It means he'll be able to master it soon. Probably it's that thing from the opening, where he goes SSJB and gets an immense red aura. We just need to wait until that place-holder baseform gets swapped with a newer one. I am completely fine with the pacing, they don't do annoying 10 episodes of screaming for one kamehameha anymore. I know the battle royale will be 48 minutes only, but the writers seem to be guiding the story really well! 80 people fighting seemed too much. So they made it into a battle royale. I'm guessing it actually will be a short 48 minutes, not stretching way too much, but there will be a tie, like 3 universes have 3 fighters remaining. And they make it a 3v3v3 match, or something else. Then they will have no time-limit to beat each other. It's really not that difficult to make a good-length arc out of it while not making 48 minutes into 48 hours. |
| I'm not sure about this whole battle royale thing. I prefer 1vs1 fight. Also no flying rule is no good. Welp, at least they can jump. :D |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| Bergamo had a nice ability, but he used it too much, dunno if he control how much he can grow because every time he grows he becomes slower. Meh, I don't want a battle royale, I want 1 vs 1 fights. |
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| the way i say is 2 or more universes will tie with 3 or 4 fighters then they will make a 1vs1 tournament after all the fodders have been cleared. that is what i suspect at least... it will be a better finale. |
| since its a battle royale mister satan should join the team. Win secured. Seriously .. a battle royale? A full scale tournament might be to long, but this kinda sucks.. We wanted to see epic 1on1s. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Guys you don't seem to understand. What Goku did against Hit was SSJB Kaioken x10. What he did in this fight is SSJB kaioken (times one). |
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Rayrin said: Whether Bergamo is underhanded or not, those are the words I've been really wanting to say.....Goku, once the Earth's Protector, now reduced into a battle-hungry blockhead ignorant Unless you grew up with FUNimation's dub, Goku has always been a battle-hungry blockhead ignorant. He wasn't this hero FUNimation or the movies tried to paint as, he lives for fighting and on more than multiple occasions he made stupid decisions just to keep fighting strong opponents. He didn't spare Piccolo or Vegeta's lives because it was the right thing, no. He did it so he can fight them again. Or how about when Bulma suggested going after Dr. Gero and stop him before he unleashes the Artificial Humans? He said he wanted to fight them. Even earlier when Trunks told him he died before fighting them, Goku expressed his regret to not have his future self the chance to do so. Goku has always been someone who wants a fight before saving the world. It's just this is the first time he was overly criticized by other worldly beings who do not know who he is. |
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| The winner of the Royal Rumble will be crowned the Tournament of Power World Heavyweight Champion haha. The episode was good but i though the battle would last at least for 2 episodes. Zen was going to wipe out the lowest mortal levels universe anyway and Goku gave the chance for one of them to survive by winning the tournament, however for some reason everyone thinks he is evil now. Perhaps the angels are doing a pretty awful job by selecting jokes of god destruction such as Beerus for example. There should be a timer were a new participant enters the the ring every 5 minutes to makes this more like a WWE match lol. |
RikkuMar 5, 2017 8:09 AM
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| Didn't know it was possible to flanderize Goku, but Super totally succeeded doing it. |
| If you guys are having trouble wrapping your brain around the 48 minutes that would shorten the arc then you guys need to remember the TV series"24" which was an hour per episode and lasted 2 seasons. All of that happening in the 24 hr timeframe. |
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Janethan23 said: If you guys are having trouble wrapping your brain around the 48 minutes that would shorten the arc then you guys need to remember the TV series"24" which was an hour per episode and lasted 2 seasons. All of that happening in the 24 hr timeframe. Hmm '24' has 24 episodes each season.So just one season for a day not 2 seasons. |
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kaitonic said: Janethan23 said: If you guys are having trouble wrapping your brain around the 48 minutes that would shorten the arc then you guys need to remember the TV series"24" which was an hour per episode and lasted 2 seasons. All of that happening in the 24 hr timeframe. Hmm '24' has 24 episodes each season.So just one season for a day not 2 seasons. Well if that's the case then I stand corrected. It's been awhile since I saw the show. My point is that if done well like 24 then a given time frame isn't much of a hindrance to tell the story. |
Janethan23Mar 5, 2017 1:13 PM
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| If I'm not wrong 11 out of 12 seasons of 24 Hours have 24 episodes each and season 12 is a 12 EP season. Also, did anyone notice the similarities between Lucifer from the Bible and The Grand Priest? Looks like he will be following the same path as lucifer. |
Lol SOOOO TRUE. :D |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| Holy shit a battle royal is awesome. Most interesting episode, I'm surprised goku didn't flinch about the erasing rule. It shows this guy is a real maso |
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| the dog has a point if it wasn't for Goku this whole tournament wouldn't have happened |
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Axelucard said: the dog has a point if it wasn't for Goku this whole tournament wouldn't have happened LOL... Gokou trolling He like; "come at me bro" to every universes. I've never seen a good guy sink so low just to get his thrills. I really can't believe the writer(s) of the anime/manga could make a beloved iconic character so dense and shallow. Gokou being so innocent doesn't help him at all because ignorance can never be an excuse to take responsibility. |
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| Hmm good episode. The fight was alright even if I thought he would last longer. Bergamo for sure had an interesting ability but that didn't helped in any way. I didn't expect Goku going all out but that was for sure only to show Zeno that he doesn't hold back in this fight. So the tournament is a battle royale. I don't really know what to think about it. On one side it sounds interesting and is for sure something we never saw before in Dragonball but on the other side I have no clue how they will manage to show all these fight, especially with 80 people. Was funny when Goku was teasing the other universes that they should bring the best fighters they have to fight him :D Who the hell is this new guy who challenged Goku? He looks strange but maybe he will give a better fight for Goku as Bergamo. |
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| OMFG Battle Royale?!!? That's awesome xD PS Goku dude wtf.. learn to defeat someone without showing others your super saiyan/SSJ blue power.. This tournament is gonna be epic! can't wait! |
SenpieX said: OMFG Battle Royale?!!? That's awesome xD PS Goku dude wtf.. learn to defeat someone without showing others your super saiyan/SSJ blue power.. This tournament is gonna be epic! can't wait! Well he has to go all out even with SSJ blue and Kaioken since Zeno said that he would erase all universe if he hold back and Zeno knows about that power during Hit fight. |
SHINOBI-03 said: Rayrin said: Whether Bergamo is underhanded or not, those are the words I've been really wanting to say.....Goku, once the Earth's Protector, now reduced into a battle-hungry blockhead ignorant Unless you grew up with FUNimation's dub, Goku has always been a battle-hungry blockhead ignorant. He wasn't this hero FUNimation or the movies tried to paint as, he lives for fighting and on more than multiple occasions he made stupid decisions just to keep fighting strong opponents. He didn't spare Piccolo or Vegeta's lives because it was the right thing, no. He did it so he can fight them again. Or how about when Bulma suggested going after Dr. Gero and stop him before he unleashes the Artificial Humans? He said he wanted to fight them. Even earlier when Trunks told him he died before fighting them, Goku expressed his regret to not have his future self the chance to do so. Goku has always been someone who wants a fight before saving the world. It's just this is the first time he was overly criticized by other worldly beings who do not know who he is. There's this article that explain Goku's battle hungry attitude in DBS. No wonder Goku's kind of a jerk on DBS |
robiu013 said: Didn't know it was possible to flanderize Goku, but Super totally succeeded doing it. Highlighting Goku's core flaw that has been with him since the very start of the franchise is not what flanderization is. While Goku has good intentions, he almost always puts his thirst for battle above logic. Just look at what happens with Cell or Majin Buu. This arc is highlighting the darkest aspects of Goku which is only a logical follow up to a season that had the whole stuff with Zamasu. Toriyama is bringing up the biggest flaw of Goku's character and subverting the role expectations. I mean this episode has very traditional set up for a shonen tournament but it puts the conventions of it upside down - Bergamo is the heroic underpowered jobber coming into it for the good of his people and Goku is the one threatening all creation just so he can have fun. The roles are subverted and its brilliant. SenpieX said: OMFG Battle Royale?!!? That's awesome xD PS Goku dude wtf.. learn to defeat someone without showing others your super saiyan/SSJ blue power.. This tournament is gonna be epic! can't wait! It was intentional part of "everyone come at me" kind of move. |
AhenshihaelMar 5, 2017 11:09 PM
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| There is a great chance that we see vegito again with this battle royale style fight no rule against the fusion |
Fai said: robiu013 said: Didn't know it was possible to flanderize Goku, but Super totally succeeded doing it. Highlighting Goku's core flaw that has been with him since the very start of the franchise is not what flanderization is. While Goku has good intentions, he almost always puts his thirst for battle above logic. Just look at what happens with Cell or Majin Buu. This arc is highlighting the darkest aspects of Goku which is only a logical follow up to a season that had the whole stuff with Zamasu. Toriyama is bringing up the biggest flaw of Goku's character and subverting the role expectations. I mean this episode has very traditional set up for a shonen tournament but it puts the conventions of it upside down - Bergamo is the heroic underpowered jobber coming into it for the good of his people and Goku is the one threatening all creation just so he can have fun. The roles are subverted and its brilliant. SenpieX said: OMFG Battle Royale?!!? That's awesome xD PS Goku dude wtf.. learn to defeat someone without showing others your super saiyan/SSJ blue power.. This tournament is gonna be epic! can't wait! It was intentional part of "everyone come at me" kind of move. It reminds me of this interview with Akira Toriyama from years back: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/03/27/new-interview-translations-akira-toriyama-special-talks/ ""There’s how, basically, Son Goku from Dragon Ball doesn’t fight for the sake of others, but because he wants to fight against strong guys. So once Dragon Ball got animated, at any rate, I’ve always been dissatisfied with the “righteous hero”-type portrayal they gave him. I guess I couldn’t quite get them to grasp the elements of “poison” that slip in and out of sight among the shadows." This really fits Dragon Ball Super's portrayal of Goku. |
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Fai said: robiu013 said: Didn't know it was possible to flanderize Goku, but Super totally succeeded doing it. Highlighting Goku's core flaw that has been with him since the very start of the franchise is not what flanderization is. While Goku has good intentions, he almost always puts his thirst for battle above logic. Just look at what happens with Cell or Majin Buu. This arc is highlighting the darkest aspects of Goku which is only a logical follow up to a season that had the whole stuff with Zamasu. Toriyama is bringing up the biggest flaw of Goku's character and subverting the role expectations. I mean this episode has very traditional set up for a shonen tournament but it puts the conventions of it upside down - Bergamo is the heroic underpowered jobber coming into it for the good of his people and Goku is the one threatening all creation just so he can have fun. The roles are subverted and its brilliant. Every past bad decision Goku made because of his ego was because he thought the situation was manageable, there was always some backthought put into it (granted not much, but he thought he could take Piccolo and Vegeta next time, thought his sons would deal with Majin Buu, he let Frieza live, because Frieza was being pathetic and literally half the man, he used to be and on the contrary he immediately acted, when Cell was about to blow himself up). Here there's none of that, he just rolls with the tournament rules, despite knowing full well people will get erased. Besides the role subversion isn't brilliant. The audience is full aware, that Goku isn't the bad guy. It's just one of those "the main character is missunderstood"-moments. Bergamo isn't even likeable at this point and Dragon Ball already had much better examples of wanting to root for Goku's oponnent in the past (Goku VS Nam). |
| Loved Gokus Fight,The Battle Royale Idea Is Cool IMO :) Hyped For The Tournament! |
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