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Jun 9, 2017 11:23 AM

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Zelkiiro said:
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porn games (Clannad[...])

What? Clannad is, like, the anti-porn. There is little in this world LESS porn than Clannad.
Guess it can't even do that right then, outside of the terrible "comedy" and overblown melodrama. Then again that's probably for the best since seeing those hideous bug-eyed Key characters naked would be a major turn off rather than having the opposite effect.
Jun 9, 2017 11:30 AM

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Yes, it actually does. I am normally viewed as some Dirty Dog because of my love for anime. Sure, I do gaze with love in my eyes at my 2D Waifu. To the point of shedding a single tear... but ya, when I'm viewed as some filthy piece-of-shit Weeaboo because I like the medium and Japanese story-telling of anime, it really does piss me off.
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It bothers me that they associate it with pedophilia, which they do most of the time. Same with anime art style in games or whatever. It's either weeb shit or pedo shit.
Jun 10, 2017 2:03 AM

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SnugglyWhuggly said:
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In which I explain what I know of the concept. I also don't include any negative value judgment and am open for people to re-define the term for me.

But of course, you'll include negative judgement for anyone who isn't you, because how dare anyone who isn't as fabulous or intelligent as you have misconceptions about anything? The nerve! They should stop polluting the my world with their nonsense, and stop slacking on their duty to "learn"*

*Paraphrasing exactly what you said. Never mind the irony, the hypocrisy is real.


I wish you responded to the rest of the argument, instead of picking what you like. You don't accuse someone a murder just because they had a knife in their hands.
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Jun 10, 2017 11:32 AM

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Here it's only associated with Naruto. I'd rather have it refered to porn honestly.
Jun 10, 2017 11:36 AM

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I never thought anime had porn to begin with. So is everyone i know. I think thats only the people you're around.



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I'M NOT MASTURBATING TO NEARLY NAKED GIRLS IN POWER SUITS, I'M MASTURBATING TO WHAT THEY REPRESENT!

But more serious answer, it can be kind of annoying sometimes. When I lived in the south that's what a lot of people thought about it, but all you have to do is give them example of a show that isn't like that (usually DBZ) and everybody watches porn anyways. Now, most people I know watch anime, it's getting more and more popular, and not just AoT and battle shounen.
Jun 10, 2017 11:40 AM

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It doesn't bother me

However, it does bother me, because I can never watch ANY anime with my mom (especially romance anime), because she ALWAYS thinks there's going to be a sex scene between the couple..

I'm like, "Mom, we don't even get a kiss from this couple...We're lucky if we even get a hug."

And she's also religious, so she's against magic, monsters, etc.

That leaves me with slice of life anime, but that doesn't do justice. That's only a taste of anime.

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I never thought anime had porn to begin with. So is everyone i know. I think thats only the people you're around.


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Jun 10, 2017 1:41 PM

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I don't really care that much but it is annoying every single time I watch anime near people someone always thinks there clever and asks "is that hentai" "what hentai you watchin" "I love that hentai"
Jun 10, 2017 3:49 PM

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No, because in order to make that mistake you have to be into porn and stumble onto hentai, thus already having a not so socially accepted hobby they don't have a right to judge mine.
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Jun 11, 2017 12:57 AM

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SnugglyWhuggly said:
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I wish you responded to the rest of the argument, instead of picking what you like. You don't accuse someone a murder just because they had a knife in their hands.

What argument? I'm just pointing out the irony and hypocrisy in your posts. You've done it again here, don't pretend you don't cherry pick what you like either, and then blatantly ignore/dismiss anything you can't refute. You're a prime example of the saying "a fox always smells its own hole". You can't claim people are "stupid" for doing or believing something, and then come up with some petty excuses as to how you're not what you claim other people are when you do the exact same thing you accuse others of.

Your yuri/yaoi "misconception" is but one example, you do this a lot. You have a thing against people that enjoy long running series (100+) as well, and actually seem personally offended that anyone dare to have a longer attention span than you. You can't make such a strong judgement on something, positively or negatively, when you've never even experienced it. To do so, is to have a misconception, or at least not a real image/idea of whatever it actually is.

And you do usually accuse someone of murder if they're holding a knife and there's a body, and a shit ton of blood... It's only the natural response.


You missed the whole part where I discuss my misconception and let people correct it.
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Jun 12, 2017 6:23 AM

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I think what bothers me the most is that a lot of people still think that ANIME IS FOR KIDS. Hahahahaha!

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Jun 12, 2017 7:50 AM

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SnugglyWhuggly said:
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You missed the whole part where I discuss my misconception and let people correct it.

Your only posts in that thread are:
"Don't Yaoi and Yuri both exist primarily for sexual gratification and not much else?
"I hope the users have fun. It's instant pleasure, nothing deep."
"I was always certain they were just labels for hentai that has lebsians/homosexuals."

You'll have to forgive me if I struggle to find where you're allowing people to "correct" your misconception. You're going to have to try harder, most people with an IQ above 50 are not going to buy your lazy excuses. At least this isn't as hilarious as claiming to have never even seen a thread when it has posts made by you in it this time...


While I wasn't explicit as I remember:

"I was always certain they were just labels for hentai that has lebsians/homosexuals."

This was a reply to AltoRoak. This isn't an argument but an invitation. I can understand if t wasn't too clear. Either way, I don't see how I insist in this misconception.
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Jun 12, 2017 4:33 PM

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It bothers me a lot that people associate anime with porn. It makes talking about anime in public difficult. People also tend to look down on me or see me as weird when they find out I watch anime. My friend and I make jokes about weebs and stuff all the time but he genuinely puts otakus into the same category as bronies or furries.
Jun 12, 2017 7:15 PM

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Nope. Honestly, anime deserves this bad reputation with all the ratio of fanservicey shows to non fanservicey shows out there. If you watch past the typical front covers of anime like Naruto and SAO you're bound to run a questionable show sooner or later. Ironic because animators probably wouldn't get payed so little if their medium wasn't one where the population majority see it as just just fanservice and porn.
Jun 12, 2017 7:22 PM

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Why? Recently the releases are almost a porn. But, I have nothing against it.
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Jun 13, 2017 5:04 AM

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Nope. Honestly, anime deserves this bad reputation with all the ratio of fanservicey shows to non fanservicey shows out there. If you watch past the typical front covers of anime like Naruto and SAO you're bound to run a questionable show sooner or later. Ironic because animators probably wouldn't get payed so little if their medium wasn't one where the population majority see it as just just fanservice and porn.


SAO doesn't have that much fanservice and neither do Attack on Titan, FMA or Death Note which are also huge products. So how come?
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Jun 13, 2017 5:21 AM

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TheBrainintheJar said:
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Nope. Honestly, anime deserves this bad reputation with all the ratio of fanservicey shows to non fanservicey shows out there. If you watch past the typical front covers of anime like Naruto and SAO you're bound to run a questionable show sooner or later. Ironic because animators probably wouldn't get payed so little if their medium wasn't one where the population majority see it as just just fanservice and porn.


SAO doesn't have that much fanservice and neither do Attack on Titan, FMA or Death Note which are also huge products. So how come?


Read my post again. I'm not saying that SAO has that much fanservice (it actually has a fair bit), I'm saying if you watch shows that stray away from the Big Products, *cough* ecchi realm *cough* you definitely will find fanservice, and heck, a lot of it. It's shows like this that give anime its bad reputation. Just look at all the 'I watch anime for the plot "insert boobs here"' memes.

Eg. No game no life, High school dxd, shokugeki no souma
Jun 13, 2017 6:16 AM

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Don't really know anyone who associates anime with porn..
Most of my friends here associate anime with One piece, Naruto, Pokemon and Yu gi oh and such and that bothers me more tbh, than people associating anime with porn/hentai.

Jun 13, 2017 6:18 AM

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As some people said earlier, they rather associate it with popular shounens (in my case they think about DBZ).
If they associated it with porn I don't think it'd bother me. I don't even know how to argument it - I just couldn't care less.
Jun 13, 2017 6:21 AM

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If that is the only thing that a person can think of when they hear "anime" then uhhh.. Idk I would just say that they are obviously uneducated. The amount of erotic anime out there is crazy, but still.. most anime that people talk about is just "regular" weeb shit so.

It doesn't bother me but I would love to educate whoever associate anime with porn.
Jun 14, 2017 7:22 AM

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8797 said:
TheBrainintheJar said:


SAO doesn't have that much fanservice and neither do Attack on Titan, FMA or Death Note which are also huge products. So how come?


Read my post again. I'm not saying that SAO has that much fanservice (it actually has a fair bit), I'm saying if you watch shows that stray away from the Big Products, *cough* ecchi realm *cough* you definitely will find fanservice, and heck, a lot of it. It's shows like this that give anime its bad reputation. Just look at all the 'I watch anime for the plot "insert boobs here"' memes.

Eg. No game no life, High school dxd, shokugeki no souma


Why do you have to stray there, though? There are plenty that don't rely on fanservice - Cowboy Bebop, Black Lagoon, Paranoia Agent, Gekkan Shoujo. Why do we push these aside?
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Jun 14, 2017 8:14 AM

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TheBrainintheJar said:
8797 said:


Read my post again. I'm not saying that SAO has that much fanservice (it actually has a fair bit), I'm saying if you watch shows that stray away from the Big Products, *cough* ecchi realm *cough* you definitely will find fanservice, and heck, a lot of it. It's shows like this that give anime its bad reputation. Just look at all the 'I watch anime for the plot "insert boobs here"' memes.

Eg. No game no life, High school dxd, shokugeki no souma


Why do you have to stray there, though? There are plenty that don't rely on fanservice - Cowboy Bebop, Black Lagoon, Paranoia Agent, Gekkan Shoujo. Why do we push these aside?


Firstly, when people want to justify their hate of anime; they look at bad things and not good things. They see ecchi, they associate it with hentai which = porn. They tell all their friends that anime = porn and eventually people who haven't even watched let alone heard of anime start associating anime with porn. Rumours spread, and they spread fast.

Now this wouldn't be such a huge misconception if it was merely one or two shows with questionable or suggestive themes, but the fact is that there is an entire genre of it. It's probably no news to the animators that this misconception exists too. Rather they just keep pumping out ecchi shows like no tomorrow as if it doesn't concern them at all. And if it doesn't concern them, it doesn't concern me.
Jun 14, 2017 8:18 AM

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Misconceptions happen when people don't know about something, so it's to be expected. It doesn't really matter, because I can enjoy anime by myself. I don't need others for that, so they can think whatever they want, lol.
Jun 14, 2017 8:23 AM
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No. Sometimes Ecchi/Hentai are the first forms of anime that people see, so it's only natural.
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Actually, no. Most non-anime fans I know doesn't relate it to anime, but some do know about hentai, which they consider different.

What does bother me is when someone associates anime with a religious concept like the devil or when someone who does not know anything about anime starts attacking it with a stupid reason or fallacy (e.g. "anime promotes child pornography").
Jun 15, 2017 6:58 PM
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Sometimes

because some ignorant people associate anime to hentai. They think anime is for perverts and losers. They don't know the difference and they don't care either. Very sad
Jun 16, 2017 2:16 AM

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8797 said:
TheBrainintheJar said:


Why do you have to stray there, though? There are plenty that don't rely on fanservice - Cowboy Bebop, Black Lagoon, Paranoia Agent, Gekkan Shoujo. Why do we push these aside?


Firstly, when people want to justify their hate of anime; they look at bad things and not good things. They see ecchi, they associate it with hentai which = porn. They tell all their friends that anime = porn and eventually people who haven't even watched let alone heard of anime start associating anime with porn. Rumours spread, and they spread fast.

Now this wouldn't be such a huge misconception if it was merely one or two shows with questionable or suggestive themes, but the fact is that there is an entire genre of it. It's probably no news to the animators that this misconception exists too. Rather they just keep pumping out ecchi shows like no tomorrow as if it doesn't concern them at all. And if it doesn't concern them, it doesn't concern me.


The creators are probably more concerned with making money rather than any sense of belong to an anime community.

My question is, do we as anime fans make these anime stick out instead of other things? If so, why?

SnugglyWhuggly said:
TheBrainintheJar said:
While I wasn't explicit as I remember:

"I was always certain they were just labels for hentai that has lebsians/homosexuals."

This was a reply to AltoRoak. This isn't an argument but an invitation. I can understand if t wasn't too clear. Either way, I don't see how I insist in this misconception.

You always do win first prize for missing the point entirely...
Trying to have any kind of discussion or debate with you is a bit like trying to argue with a broken record. But of course, any argument anyone makes that isn't in agreement with yours is simply someone who is "angry" or using "slurs/insults", which somehow invalidates their entire argument.


You're the only one who I criticized as arguing with slurs and insults and I surround myself with people who disagree with me. Maybe the problem is not me in this case.
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Jun 16, 2017 3:00 AM

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@TheBrainintheJar

In regards to this context, I don't think we as anime fans are the ones to blame directly. Rather, I feel like the matter revolves around the shows themselves. The fact of the matter is that there is a very thin line that separates hentai from some ecchi (which again is thanks to the creators greed) and a lot of the time, the only thing that differentiates between the two is whether they actually show a sex scene or not. A controversial topic like this is always going to attract attention, and misguided assumptions to follow (fanservice=ecchi=hentai) no matter what we anime fans do. However, I do feel like we as fans can indeed 'fan' the fire by embracing all the fanservice and ecchi memes like we seem to be doing.
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8797 said:
@TheBrainintheJar

In regards to this context, I don't think we as anime fans are the ones to blame directly. Rather, I feel like the matter revolves around the shows themselves. The fact of the matter is that there is a very thin line that separates hentai from some ecchi (which again is thanks to the creators greed) and a lot of the time, the only thing that differentiates between the two is whether they actually show a sex scene or not. A controversial topic like this is always going to attract attention, and misguided assumptions to follow (fanservice=ecchi=hentai) no matter what we anime fans do. However, I do feel like we as fans can indeed 'fan' the fire by embracing all the fanservice and ecchi memes like we seem to be doing.


Ecchi is also more narrative-based, so you can judge it on that terms.

What we as anime fans should do is actually talk about anime that aren't only fanservice. They're popular enough. I know that irony/shitposting culture thinks school bullying is fun, but we shouldn't take part in that bullshit.
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Jun 17, 2017 1:06 AM

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Dunno, anime wasn't well-known thing back when I knew "people."
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Jun 17, 2017 2:01 AM
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Not at all. They're probably right regarding those they see watching anime in public.
Jun 17, 2017 11:39 AM
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Anime isn't porn. Unless you're looking for hentai, but that's a different story.
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Not really, but I can't blame non-anime fans for thinking that.

If you go on anime sites and see people with avatars, profile pics and signatures that contain half naked women/men, ass shots, and pantyshots. What do think people will assume? You have anime fans who always talk about how much they fap to anime characters, boobs equal plot and etc. If non-anime fans hung around people who only talk about the sexual appeal of anime and nothing else it's not hard to see why they think anime is just porn.
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xenovibe said:
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What? Clannad is, like, the anti-porn. There is little in this world LESS porn than Clannad.
Guess it can't even do that right then, outside of the terrible "comedy" and overblown melodrama. Then again that's probably for the best since seeing those hideous bug-eyed Key characters naked would be a major turn off rather than having the opposite effect.
Lol, this reply reeks elitism.

Not surprised considering the amount of Anime you've watched and the types you watch.
I honestly just feel bad for someone like you lol, I hope you actually have more Anime completed than that, cause if that's near your total, than you're the type of guy who only looks at what's classified as "masterpieces" and other hidden gems, it's pretty sad having that type of taste that does not allow you to view anything lmao (If it's hard to realize, this is just Pity, you can watch whatever you want, lol)
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It does sometimes because thinking anime is porn, they are judging me and people like me which is irritating because these are the ones who haven't even watched anime, they don't really know what it is and still pass around their stupidity
Jun 25, 2017 11:20 AM

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Disha07 said:
It does sometimes because thinking anime is porn, they are judging me and people like me which is irritating because these are the ones who haven't even watched anime, they don't really know what it is and still pass around their stupidity
Lol who gives a shit, I laugh at idiots, no point in taking them seriously

Especially when they won't admit, not even in their own head, that they're being dumb asf

Main reason why I barely frequent this site lmao
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Disha07 said:
It does sometimes because thinking anime is porn, they are judging me and people like me which is irritating because these are the ones who haven't even watched anime, they don't really know what it is and still pass around their stupidity
Lol who gives a shit, I laugh at idiots, no point in taking them seriously

Especially when they won't admit, not even in their own head, that they're being dumb asf

Main reason why I barely frequent this site lmao


Well I guess the keyword is "ignore" :)
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Soriki said:
Lol who gives a shit, I laugh at idiots, no point in taking them seriously

Especially when they won't admit, not even in their own head, that they're being dumb asf

Main reason why I barely frequent this site lmao


Well I guess the keyword is "ignore" :)
No no no no, that's boring!

Use them to your advantage if you're like me for a good laugh, and if they're boring, just ignore/block them :^)

If you don't know how just Google it, there'll be a page that tells you how to :P
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Soriki said:
Disha07 said:


Well I guess the keyword is "ignore" :)
No no no no, that's boring!

Use them to your advantage if you're like me for a good laugh, and if they're boring, just ignore/block them :^)

If you don't know how just Google it, there'll be a page that tells you how to :P
Soriki said:
Disha07 said:


Well I guess the keyword is "ignore" :)
No no no no, that's boring!

Use them to your advantage if you're like me for a good laugh, and if they're boring, just ignore/block them :^)

If you don't know how just Google it, there'll be a page that tells you how to :P


Well I will try to! Thank you for the suggestion :p
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Kinda, because anime is a lot more than that.
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Of course it bothers me. The association with hentai brings a lot of negative stigma in society.
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Of course it bothers me. The association with hentai brings a lot of negative stigma in society.
Attempt to interchange that bothering you with laughter at the ignorance and stupidity of these people
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Yeah sometimes .
One day i watch code geass and my friend says its a hentai
And he says all anime is hentai.
Well that is unforgivable
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Yeah sometimes .
One day i watch code geass and my friend says its a hentai
And he says all anime is hentai.
Well that is unforgivable
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Soriki said:
xenovibe said:
Guess it can't even do that right then, outside of the terrible "comedy" and overblown melodrama. Then again that's probably for the best since seeing those hideous bug-eyed Key characters naked would be a major turn off rather than having the opposite effect.
Lol, this reply reeks elitism.

Not surprised considering the amount of Anime you've watched and the types you watch.
I honestly just feel bad for someone like you lol, I hope you actually have more Anime completed than that, cause if that's near your total, than you're the type of guy who only looks at what's classified as "masterpieces" and other hidden gems, it's pretty sad having that type of taste that does not allow you to view anything lmao (If it's hard to realize, this is just Pity, you can watch whatever you want, lol)
Soriki said:
xenovibe said:
Guess it can't even do that right then, outside of the terrible "comedy" and overblown melodrama. Then again that's probably for the best since seeing those hideous bug-eyed Key characters naked would be a major turn off rather than having the opposite effect.
Lol, this reply reeks elitism.

Not surprised considering the amount of Anime you've watched and the types you watch.
I honestly just feel bad for someone like you lol, I hope you actually have more Anime completed than that, cause if that's near your total, than you're the type of guy who only looks at what's classified as "masterpieces" and other hidden gems, it's pretty sad having that type of taste that does not allow you to view anything lmao (If it's hard to realize, this is just Pity, you can watch whatever you want, lol)
Yes, there are quite a few shows out there which I have seen but didn't even bother adding to my list, thanks for asking. I do watch and enjoy different genres though and not just anime that are widely classified as a "masterpiece" (which is a moot term at this point) so you should probably stop assuming things based on one or two comments that I've made.

It's pretty amusing how you're supposedly complaining about "elitism" when you are the one who's taking worthless things like people's number of completed anime so seriously while looking down on those with fewer shows under their belt than you.
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nah people my age are already stereotyped as being horny degenerates
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xenovibe said:
Soriki said:
Lol, this reply reeks elitism.

Not surprised considering the amount of Anime you've watched and the types you watch.
I honestly just feel bad for someone like you lol, I hope you actually have more Anime completed than that, cause if that's near your total, than you're the type of guy who only looks at what's classified as "masterpieces" and other hidden gems, it's pretty sad having that type of taste that does not allow you to view anything lmao (If it's hard to realize, this is just Pity, you can watch whatever you want, lol)
Soriki said:
Lol, this reply reeks elitism.

Not surprised considering the amount of Anime you've watched and the types you watch.
I honestly just feel bad for someone like you lol, I hope you actually have more Anime completed than that, cause if that's near your total, than you're the type of guy who only looks at what's classified as "masterpieces" and other hidden gems, it's pretty sad having that type of taste that does not allow you to view anything lmao (If it's hard to realize, this is just Pity, you can watch whatever you want, lol)
Yes, there are quite a few shows out there which I have seen but didn't even bother adding to my list, thanks for asking. I do watch and enjoy different genres though and not just anime that are widely classified as a "masterpiece" (which is a moot term at this point) so you should probably stop assuming things based on one or two comments that I've made.

It's pretty amusing how you're supposedly complaining about "elitism" when you are the one who's taking worthless things like people's number of completed anime so seriously while looking down on those with fewer shows under their belt than you.
LOL I like how you complain about my "assuming" and then go ahead and get all pretentious and triggered to assume more shit back Xd

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Btw Clannad still is awesome <3

Reconfigure your brain pls Mister Xenovibe :^)
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