perje said: some people don't care about an arbitrary ranking number or the integrity of this stupid site. Its kind of sad you think a reviews purpose should be to justify a number and not simply to provide some type of critical thought. Implying and putting words into my mouth. Gotta love it. Sadly despite what you may think , a number / ranking does mean something. |
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Goldfischglas said: Pullman said: Even worse are the obligatory 'This dude must enjoy everything so much more than everyone else, what a great guy' comments. No, he doesn't he just uses different labels for his enjoyment. What he describes as a 9 is a 6 or 7 for me, and the things I enjoyed so much that I want to give them a 9 or 10/10 don't even exist on his list. I think you are being a little ignorant here. There are certainly people who genuinely enjoy more Anime than others. You mean they enjoy everything about the same? If I rate everything a 10 what does that mean? It means as much as scoring everything a 1. Scores only have meaning compared to each other or rather they gain more value the larger the rating scale is. |
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| WHO CARES! You people really worry about the strangest thngs.. Your lives must be so amazing that you have nothing else to worry about. Making threads on ratings absolutely makes no sense because its only obvious people will rate anime different than you do. Just ignore peoplr if their ratings bug you and don't worry about it do much. |
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| you've seen nothing my freind... you've seen nothing... https://myanimelist.net/profile/AnimeFan500  |
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HamburgerSpike said: Goldfischglas said: I think you are being a little ignorant here. There are certainly people who genuinely enjoy more Anime than others. You mean they enjoy everything about the same? If I rate everything a 10 what does that mean? It means as much as scoring everything a 1. Scores only have meaning compared to each other or rather they gain more value the larger the rating scale is. Oh, I am pretty sure there are people who are too incompetent to use the full scale of the rating system/are trolling or just don't care at all. However let's not generalize everyone who only rates between 7-10. There are people who genuinely enjoy even the most generic Anime. |
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Goldfischglas said: HamburgerSpike said: You mean they enjoy everything about the same? If I rate everything a 10 what does that mean? It means as much as scoring everything a 1. Scores only have meaning compared to each other or rather they gain more value the larger the rating scale is. Oh, I am pretty sure there are people who are too incompetent to use the full scale of the rating system or just don't care at all. However let's not generalize everyone who only rates between 7-10. There are people who genuinely enjoy even the most generic Anime. Basically this should summarize everything about this thread. |
| Too kawaii to live, too mahou shoujo to die >:D |
Kuma said: you've seen nothing my freind... you've seen nothing... https://myanimelist.net/profile/AnimeFan500 I guess i just am not gifted with the ability to enjoy everything like these fellas lmao |
| Too kawaii to live, too mahou shoujo to die >:D |
| I don't think we should care about the ratings that much, tho personally I believe people should spread out their ratings a little more so that a 10 feels like a 10. Either way, arguments and opinions matter more than a single number. Kuma said: you've seen nothing my freind... you've seen nothing... https://myanimelist.net/profile/AnimeFan500 holy shit what did those 9s did to him? this guy is just full of hate |
Darek said: Kuma said: you've seen nothing my freind... you've seen nothing... https://myanimelist.net/profile/AnimeFan500 holy shit what did those 9s did to him? this guy is just full of hate slightly reminder this guys still have 2 shows he rate 5... |
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Darek said: I don't think we should care about the ratings that much, tho personally I believe people should spread out their ratings a little more so that a 10 feels like a 10. Either way, arguments and opinions matter more than a single number. Kuma said: you've seen nothing my freind... you've seen nothing... https://myanimelist.net/profile/AnimeFan500 holy shit what did those 9s did to him? this guy is just full of hate Its not about caring in my opinion , its about having a disucssion which is why i created a thread. I know youre not saying it , but often times when someone makes a thread such as this they feel that they "care" in some sort of emotional sense about the topic other than just wanting to have a discussion. |
| Too kawaii to live, too mahou shoujo to die >:D |
IMBA i rated both of those anime 10/10 xD lol |
| Too kawaii to live, too mahou shoujo to die >:D |
lmfao, the bar doesn't even show, now this time I am sure he is just a hater and crap he even has 8s and 7s, this rating system just confuses me. PheolingAnimu said: Its not about caring in my opinion , its about having a disucssion which is why i created a thread. I know youre not saying it , but often times when someone makes a thread such as this they feel that they "care" in some sort of emotional sense about the topic other than just wanting to have a discussion. but if you don't care at least a bit.... why would you want to discuss something? |
removed-userFeb 22, 2017 5:23 PM
This is probably me, however I don't really care enough to rate and use MAL as simply "My Anime List" so I can keep track of what I've watched & what I'd like to watch. |
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| For me an anime needs to really bore or upset me in order to lose points. I'd never think 10 is perfect since that's just not realistic, so anime that I'd truly consider iconic and enjoyable often get 10s even with some flaws. |
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| Coming from someone who's watched 300 anime (259 days worth) and has a mean average of 8.52, I never felt like any of the anime I watched was below a 5 (below average) in terms of enjoyment. There are some titles that were bad but I just don't remember them so they're not included in my list. |
| Maybe because they use this such nominal scale: 10 : Japanese cartoon 9 : Chinese cartoon 8 : Korean cartoon . . . . so on Since majority of cartoon in this site's database come from Japan, they have a "mean score" close to 10 |
"People who don't see that anime has changed are either wearing "glasses" or watching only a certain type (and or era) of anime" "Having a low mean score doesn't necessarily mean one doesn't enjoy anime. Rating system is not a school grading system." "Elitist is people who think he is superior than others. Not necessarily ones who insulting/critisizing your favorite anime or people who enjoy a certain type of anime" "Fanboy is people who translating "your favorite anime is shit" into "you are shit". "Being a fanboy is an indication of elitism" |
PheolingAnimu said: Darek said: I don't think we should care about the ratings that much, tho personally I believe people should spread out their ratings a little more so that a 10 feels like a 10. Either way, arguments and opinions matter more than a single number. holy shit what did those 9s did to him? this guy is just full of hate Its not about caring in my opinion , its about having a disucssion which is why i created a thread. I know youre not saying it , but often times when someone makes a thread such as this they feel that they "care" in some sort of emotional sense about the topic other than just wanting to have a discussion. You only want a discussion out of things you care about. Come on. Its how humans are. You obviously care and the human brain is like that. If you didn't emotionally care, you wouldnt reply to others how you are nor even type this post. |
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| A scoring number scale of 1-10 is inherently flawed and retarded. A 5-star system would be better but even that has its cons. PheolingAnimu said: Implying and putting words into my mouth. Gotta love it. Sadly despite what you may think , a number / ranking does mean something. An arbitrary number means nothing. It's the why that's important. No matter what you may think. |
FlipHazardFeb 22, 2017 10:19 PM
jeikobu11 said: Does everything have to be the way you want it to be? My manga mean is 8.82 and Im pretty damn precise with my ratings. Some people get into certain shows more than others, it's as simple as that. same man some love it more than others ,they can score however they want. |
| pretty sure these people watch series with their brain turned off |
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| My mean is about a 7.41 but I think people wouldn't watch something if they found it unenjoyable, otherwise why would you bother watching the show in the first place? Yet again, people give things certain scores on different criteria I guess. |
| maybe People liek to do whatever they want and it is not your damn business to fuckin care? |
| heres' some stuff I had on my profile: (it's been repeated multiple times already so I think it's generally true for most ppl) I said: Yes. I have already worked out the general scale of MAL users, with the score of "average" at 7. (See my profile for my scoring scale). The reason I score high on most stuff is because if I think what I'm watching will be lower than 7, I will probably drop it immediately. and i dont rate anything that I dropped... Oh but then, rating criteria change as time goes by... I said: P.S. Be advised that when I first started watching anime (around the time I first watched FMA), I had a rather low quality bar and basically enjoyed some shows that I most likely wont enjoy as much if I watched it now. As I watched more shows, I got more picky about what I liked, and it became ALOT harder to enjoy watching anime in general. Maybe it's because of all those pesky, overused cliches that pop up everywhere... So, ironically, the more you watch, the less enjoyable it prolly will be. |
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harpseal2 said: some people, such as myself, actually rate based on perceived quality rather than enjoyment honestly, I dont think that's fair. Not all studios have the same budget, and rating shows based on a studio's available resources is completely pointless. |
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| I've never seen anyone with a mean score of 9 or above, but I find it hard to believe that there are people out there who love every anime they watch. |
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| I don't care, the person you're talking about probably doesn't care either. |
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| It's probably a good think that some users rate like that cuz we have a lot of people who rate nearly everything under 5, because of those people who overrate the rating system is in balance. |
PheolingAnimu said: Well he at least explained his thought process so i'll share it with you. "Let me explain my thought process here. My to go to score is 9, and the only requirement to get a 9 from me is "Do I enjoy what I watch?" if yes, then it's a 9. However, if I ejnoy it a lot, then it's a 10, and if only ejnoy it somewhat less then it's an 8, and if I ejoy it less than that, it's a 7 or at worst a 6. And I don't use the 1-5 scale at all, to low numbers aren't fun to give out, so I don't." That's more or less how I rate. I hardly use low scores (though I do st all). I preter to look at anime as over all and not getting every little things. |
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| It's these people that skew the mean ratings and the reason why so many anime are overrated on this site. If you give everything a 9 then how do you differentiate between good and bad? Lol please keep your plebeian taste to yourself and not spread cancer. |
| Is it normal that it links to the page of a crowdfunding campaign for Pillars of Eternity II ? |
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| Let people rate shows however they want, they want to rate all animes with 10/10 so OK, they want to rate all animes with 1/10 OK, let people do whatever they want. |
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Sapewloth said: It is! Not doing that anymore though, since I got prodded about it so let's not dwell anymore on that.Tylaen said: Is it normal that it links to the page of a crowdfunding campaign for Pillars of Eternity II?One thing Is clear; said person shouldn't rate anything and just leave blanks insteads |
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| Loool I'm actually one of those people I have seen around 70 to 80 anime of different genre shounen senen romance slice of life mystery.... and I liked them all The only anime I didn't like was neon genesis evangelion .... It was booring as hell |
Kja95 said: The only anime I didn't like was neon genesis evangelion .... It was booring as hell I didn't personally find Evangelion boring but to each their own. |
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| https://myanimelist.net/profile/Animer_man we mean this dude? |
| Hottest Take Ever, fite me: Fairy Tail is better than Seiya, Bungou Stray and Hitman Reborn |
Simon_The_Digger said: I don't mind them. They enjoy a lot of anime, that's all. I think it's better than people who watched 500 animes and have a mean score of 5. ''Do you even enjoy watching anime ?'' is the question that comes to mind. think you missed @pullman 's giant argument about this, |
| Hottest Take Ever, fite me: Fairy Tail is better than Seiya, Bungou Stray and Hitman Reborn |
| I tend to be extremely picky about what I watch, I only really start things that have some clear aesthetic appeal to me, and because of that, I enjoy almost everything I watch. I do think there's value in keeping your mean score around a 5-6 though, since it paints a better picture of the kind of stuff you like/don't like. And I'm sure there's been plenty of stuff that I've started, but been immediately bored by and just forgotten about immediately, not even putting it on my on my list. Maybe eventually, I'll start getting interested in watching stuff I consider bad, and then I'll start using scores lower than 5, but for now, my mean score will remains at 8,3 |
| Another one of these topics, lovely. I'm going to start a thread called, 'people who mind their own damn business and don't need every little thing explained to them all of the time: thank you for existing.' followed up by my study guide, 'How to put 2 and 2 together and reach your own conclusion: common sense for dummies.' [not necessarily a direct attack @ the op, but these kind of topics are really useless and just lead to arguments.] |
AngelicTotoroFeb 23, 2017 4:01 AM
Ericonator said: By definition, everything is retro since by the time you realize something has happened it's already in the past.  |
Goldfischglas said: HamburgerSpike said: You mean they enjoy everything about the same? If I rate everything a 10 what does that mean? It means as much as scoring everything a 1. Scores only have meaning compared to each other or rather they gain more value the larger the rating scale is. Oh, I am pretty sure there are people who are too incompetent to use the full scale of the rating system/are trolling or just don't care at all. However let's not generalize everyone who only rates between 7-10. There are people who genuinely enjoy even the most generic Anime. Yes, but if they enjoy it so much are they unwilling to show it by differentiating between series they enjoyed more or less? There is either the first option you mentioned or using the full rating scale. I dont know if you just disregarded my whole post or even Pullmans essay? |
| Oshii is probably the only director that loves dogs. He thinks he's a dog himself. That's right, its slime! It will dissolve your clothing slowly before my eyes! |
| I Might Be One Of The People Who Had A Mean Score Of 9 But Now Its Back To 8 I Guess |
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| Reading some replies here I can understand rating or faving anime/manga based on how much you enjoyed. I think people can like whatever they like and some anime or manga that is quite flawed can be quite enjoyable even more than one who gets many technical things right (like one anime may fail in the art section but another has very good anatomy. So on a superficial level the anime with the not so great art may appear inferior to the anime with the better anatomy, but of course the enjoyment may not reflect that. I hope you get my point) What disappoints me a bit is that the averages of many anime and manga can be quite biased and if I'm to use that as a guide if I should give it a shot or not, it can be quite misguiding in the end. The best two examples I can give are Kaicho wa Maid-sama and Rosario to Vampire season 2. When it comes to Kaicho wa Maid-sama, I will say I haven't read the manga. I'm 20 episodes in and I can't understand why it has such a high rating. Every episode can be guessed by simply understanding that Usui will be the one to save Misaki whenever she's in trouble and he seems to always know where she is. As much as I like the dysfunctional romances present in anime and all the stalkerish actions that pass for romance or the whole will they won't they, Kaicho wa Maid-sama fails all of those by being so fucking predictable. I can't even call Usui a character, he's more like a walking wish fulfillment. Usui is pretty much great at everything he does. What are his flaws? (being a stalker doesn't count because in this anime that is just another wish fulfillment) Now regarding Rosarion to Vampire season 2,Ii have to say that around the time it came out I was also reading the manga as it was coming out and had finished the first series. The manga (and season 1 of anime) start a bit episodic with a very boring character but in the manga the story becomes more compelling. Well shit, enjoy some filler shit episodes that lack any creativity in season 2. How that shitty anime holds an average of 7.23 is beyond me. So ya my annoyance for the most part is that if you base some of your decisions on watching "good anime" on their scores it can be so fucking miss. I would understand if it was due to some highly subjective things, but a walking wish fulfillment doesn't deserve to be called a compelling character and he's objectively so. Please excuse my somewhat passionate ramblings, I just got triggered last night by Rosario + Vampire 2 and its rating. But from what I get here is that anything in the 8 range is supposed to be good anime for the most part and 7 most likely all the rest. Only some really really bad and unwatchable anime have the honor of being rated 6-. Also keep in mind that some of the reviews and ratings have being written/given when a person first got into anime and that's why they're exceptionally high, but never get around to changing the score to reflect their new tastes or deeper knowledge of anime they acquired. Nor do they ever get around to watching that anime they gave a 9 or 10 ever again. |
| Good for them tbh. They must be a really optimistic person in order to give everything that high of a score. |
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ColdNobility said: There are many threads on this topic but this post sums them all up.In the end, it balances itself because there will be people with mean score around 3. They probably don't give much thought into it. The rating system works fine overall. Edit: Want to know how I score my anime ? I rate them by seeing their current score and then judge if that shown score is worth it or not. |
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WhenACatFlies said: The best two examples I can give are Kaicho wa Maid-sama and Rosario to Vampire season 2. When it comes to Kaicho wa Maid-sama, I will say I haven't read the manga. I'm 20 episodes in and I can't understand why it has such a high rating. Every episode can be guessed by simply understanding that Usui will be the one to save Misaki whenever she's in trouble and he seems to always know where she is. As much as I like the dysfunctional romances present in anime and all the stalkerish actions that pass for romance or the whole will they won't they, Kaicho wa Maid-sama fails all of those by being so fucking predictable. I can't even call Usui a character, he's more like a walking wish fulfillment. Usui is pretty much great at everything he does. What are his flaws? (being a stalker doesn't count because in this anime that is just another wish fulfillment) The anime doesn't differ too much from the manga, it's a good adaptation. The manga is one of the most clichè shoujo i've ever read though. I gave it a 6, i quite enjoyed it (also the fact that there is a citation of Basara in the beginning helped) but it maintained the same formula for 18 volumes. |
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