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| Is this a good time to question whether or not Agnika Kaieru is really inside that thing? |
| I'm happy to see Orga pissed at McGillis, but I think it's just far too late to save him (Orga). His reckless decision-making has just dug his grave. It's way too late for Mika, but I at least hope Akihiro and Shino make it out of this alive. Noice said: Does that make it a threesome?Sooooo. . . did atra and mikazuki do it inside of barbatos? I mean. . . they did make it a point to say the whole ship was empty. . . Quandary said: FFFFFFUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK this is just so gonna happen.i'm calling it right now. ride is gonna die. the ein system is somehow gonna go crazy seeing CRANK-NIIII's machine and ride is gonna get whacked. rioplats said: What? Dude, McGillis explained his reasoning for betraying Gaelio during their fight in season 1. I'll just pull up the episode and quote it. "When the Bauduin family loses you, their heir, I, the son-in-law, will succeed in your place. ... The lone daughter of the Issue family, the most powerful one of the Seven Stars, Carta has also died. The power balance within Gjallarhorn will be disrupted. That's when I enter the stage."starkipraggy said: McGillis had to frame Gaelio for the AV system trial run because technically it's banned and he wouldn't be able to get close to Bael if he was ousted for giving his subordinate the AV. It's a non-issue now that he possesses the Bael. As for Almiria, I think the entire purpose of that scene was to show how much he cares for Almiria, even if it is in a twisted way. He could have framed anyone to be honest. He framed Gaelio solely because Okada wanted a grudge match between them in season 2; that's not a reasonable in-universe explanation imo. By removing Iznario Fareed and Gaelio, McGillis became the Head of 2 familes of the Seven Stars. And by leading Carta to her death and inheriting her position in the Outer Earth Orbit Something Something, he virtually took over the now memberless Issue family. It was all to increase his standing above the other Seven Stars. And now we know that Ein and Gaelio's relationship was the perfect means for him to test the Alaya-Vijnana surgery in adults. |
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| Oh man.... there goes my threesome pairing.... Well I love Atra so there is no problem, but still I wanted Kudelia to be with Mika too, I wish Atra's dream for threesome still can be achieved after the war is over haha |
Comander-07 said: Thank you for reminding me why I kinda hate this seasons gundam. Its all so epic, but why would you introduce Kudelia like the most important character of the universe and then make her sit behing a desk for the whole second season?! This is a biiiig minus for the series in general. I will definitely rewatch everything when its over, but I hope for something in the last 6 episodes. Also I need the piano cover of the main theme that played in the middle of the episode. It was epic. McGillis might get the lelouch ending. Would surely fit his character. I do want him to be a good person in the end. What would Kudelia even do? Help Mika fight the mobile armor? I get wanting Kudelia to be more relevant but there really hasn't been any reason when Tekkadan is constantly in armed conflict. She achieved her s1 goal and stayed in a political position to keep working, her current role makes sense. She might become relevant again though |
| I was sooo wanting to see Gundam Bael vs Gundam Vidar but I guess its still "too soon". They way they portrayed Iok made me almost think the dude will survive or "regain" his honor but I really just want a horrible death for him. I hope the writers don't forget all the awful shit he's been a catalyst for..guy needs to die. But yeah,I enjoyed the episode and the scene at the end with Mika and Astra was touching. McGillis gives off Griffith vibes to me,I'm almost certain he's set up this battle to cripple arianrhod fleet and he's sacrificing tekkadan to do that. |
PlaguechanFeb 19, 2017 6:34 PM
| The scene with Almiria and McGillis was intense. Was not expecting her to take her own life. She looked so confused. Can't really blame. McGillis did killed her brother. Atra confessed her feelings for Mika. Him hugging her was nice. Next episode is going to be a battle. |
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| Oh man, I'm getting more hyped for this final battle. |
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| I can't even appreciate that scene between Almiria and McGillis. I'm having major trust issues. Anything coming out of Chocolate Man's mouth, I can't seem to trust anymore. It's possible that he just feels for her because she's only a child and he's been through one hell of a childhood. He seems quite soft when it comes to kids. But!!! I still don't know what to make out of everything he's doing. The more I think about it, the more I feel underwhelmed. The buildup felt so hyped. The expectations were soaring, then all of a sudden... what the heck is McGillis doing? So childish?? A few more episodes left to redeem his character.. I hope they redeem his character. If not, rip. Really glad Orga confronted him tbh. Poor Orga keeps having to make heavy decisions for his family. If only they were more outspoken instead of always making him do everything... he doesn't have Biscuit anymore ;; That Mika x Atra scene <3 Please don't be a death flag ;w; It'sprobablyadeathflagfff. |
| Damn Fam! Things don’t look good for Tekkadan... If by any chance Tekkadan survives as an organization (I said this because I truly believe the majority would die [The Alamo] trying to protect their dreams for future generations) I think they would implement a round table for their decision making (not leaving all the burden to one person [so that children can’t go through what they had gone through]) and that would be a nice homage to Biscuit. I think Kudelia role is going to be carrying the boy’s legacy after this last conflict I don’t think she is going to have any impact in terms of political influence taking in consideration the number of episodes left and her words to Atra in addition to her praying pose in this episode, maybe she is going to become the new leader of Tekkadan in their restructuring… I think Chocolate man said her last words to Almiria (deliberately) maybe he is going to sacrifice himself for his cause (he said to her that he promised her that she is going to be happy in the future) thus letting her move on from all the suffering she was dealt by his actions, what if key word what if he purposely left Gaelio alive knowing that he is a fair man thus making him the perfect man for being Gjallarhorn leader in his place. On a side note: That preview doesn’t look good for Shino but then again, I said the same thing for Almiria in the previous preview and things turn out OK. Kotori_Sonoda said: That was a lot to process for a child... poor girl :(That scene with Almiria. I really feel sorry for teh poor girl now. fst said: Well this couple of episode are vial for this because I think he will take over McGillis (yeah, a cop out) to make him the true villain at the end of all of this...Is this a good time to question whether or not Agnika Kaieru is really inside that thing? Plaguechan said: Imagine this dude becoming the next leader of Gjallarhorn by default all of the major players/houses died in this last battle, the thing is it might be a possibility, F*ck!They way they portrayed Iok made me almost think the dude will survive or "regain" his honor but I really just want a horrible death for him. I hope the writers don't forget all the awful shit he's been a catalyst for..guy needs to die. |
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Roy_Focker said: Plaguechan said: Imagine this dude becoming the next leader of Gjallarhorn by default all of the major players/houses died in this last battle, the thing is it might be a possibility, F*ck!They way they portrayed Iok made me almost think the dude will survive or "regain" his honor but I really just want a horrible death for him. I hope the writers don't forget all the awful shit he's been a catalyst for..guy needs to die. Oh please, lord no. I will be dumb-founded if Iok becomes leader by default. Then again, that would be an unexpected play from left-field. Geezes... |
| I don't approve of McGillis/Almiria but the scene was sure intense. I still think McGillis does care for Almiria in his own way and that he doesn't want to harm her. It's just that he's doing it in a not healthy way. He's obsessed with power and that clouds his judgment and decisions. And maybe he's a pedo. Well, nothing surprising as he was a victim of sexual abuse in his childhood. I hate that McGillis is using Tekkadan for his own cause but that's something we all knew, right? I just know that Tekkadan will incur a lot of sacrifices this coming battle. Maybe Orga wasn't wise enough to team with McGillis and this battle will make him realize that. I don't know who is going to die but most probably Orga will. Mikazuki is there too but who knows. I liked the scene between Mikazuki and Atra. I've been rooting for Atra but I never expected her to come out and confess. I think Kudelia's words and the fact that it's the last battle what gave her the courage to do it. But the thing is, does Mikazuki have the same feelings as her or was it just the moment that made him react that way? Yes, he does treasure Atra but I don't think he is in love with her. I wonder if that moment will result in Atra getting pregnant? :p Let's just hope neither of them dies but who am I kidding. |
| damn... Macky is such a lady killer... Vidar fused with Kimaris in next episode... nice... i really wish Iok die in the last battle... hate that guy... |
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Noice said: I kind of doubt they'd do that in this show to be honest, I think the whole baby's thing was to show just how out of it mika and atra are due to their upbringing. Then again okada is a weird writer so it could totally of happened. We'll see next episode.Sooooo. . . did atra and mikazuki do it inside of barbatos? I mean. . . they did make it a point to say the whole ship was empty. . . |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| This episode proofed Mari Okada has shit taste romance Thank you for make kudelia become guest character and destroyed maki-kude ship |
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Shunaria said: You do realize the shows not over and its very likely gonna go for polygamy anyway in the hypothetical scenario where mika survives, hell atra might potentially wind up dying in the coming episodes too which i hope not for.This episode proofed Mari Okada has shit taste romance Thank you for make kudelia become guest character and destroyed maki-kude ship I am mad kudelia was kind of reduced to a side character but im still hopeful after this "final" battle she will play apart in the final conflict when mcgillis inevitably fucks tekkadan over. That or who knows maybe this really is the climax of the series since victory gundam's final conflict lasted from basically episode 42 to the end. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| all the freaking death flags |
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senoy2 said: shion16 said:  This was so cute and so necesary for all of us. I don't care about shipping, but I really want an ending where Mikazuki wouldn't have to fight again. Even if He couldn't move at all after the final battle, give him some rest alongside Atra and Kudelia. Yes thats the true good end. All i'm saying is that if Atra dies but Mika lives that's the definition of a tragedy. I will riot. |
Fatentity said: I don’t want it either but Carta is gone, the two geezers (Nemo Baklazan & I don't remember the name of the other) are irrelevant in terms of power, Gaelio Bauduin has a death flag and his house name is in shambles because of McGillis, I think McGillis Fareed is going to die, Rastall Elion is going to sacrifice himself for some of his subordinates… Who else remain with not only a position at the council but has a legendary name/house behind his legacy? Yep, you guess it, Ioq…Oh please, lord no. I will be dumb-founded if Iok becomes leader by default. Then again, that would be an unexpected play from left-field. Geezes... |
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Inugirlz said: All i'm saying is that if Atra dies but Mika lives that's the definition of a tragedy. I will riot. Yes but I think they raised a death flag on Atra this episode so you can expect that. |
| looking forward to some good mobile suit battles, but worried who won't be coming back from the battlefield. |
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GangsterCat said: pretty weird to see tekkadan so insignificant. mcgills basically just set a dog fight between arianhord and tekkadan and probably want a double K.O so he can clean up everything later on. and orga agreed just like that? wtf My thoughts exactly,lol. Like, you're a mercenary group Tekkedan damn it, so Orga should do what any reasonable mercenary group would do and be like "Yo,fuck this shit,we're out." Nowhere to go my ass. They can just openly claim that they'll stay out of the conflict and then perhaps seek to join Teiwaz again, or just do various jobs suited for their group. A start from scratch again,kinda, but you do whatcha gotta do. Least they wouldn't suffer major casualties for no reason that way. |
Shunaria said: This episode proofed Mari Okada has shit taste romance Thank you for make kudelia become guest character and destroyed maki-kude ship Why does this prove Okada has bad taste in romance? Just because you prefer Kudelia doesn't mean that she has to be the one. Also, Kudelia is much more mature than the boys in Tekkadan and she has bigger responsibilities to worry about than getting entangled in a love triangle with Atra and Mikazuki. Sure, Kudelia is a typical Gundam heroine but Atra is a refreshing change, IMO. Saying that, I highly doubt we will see a happy ending but who knows. Maybe if Atra dies, then Kudelia will be with Mikazuki in the future. |
Inugirlz said: its much more likely mika will die if anything.All i'm saying is that if Atra dies but Mika lives that's the definition of a tragedy. I will riot. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| I saw death flags everywhere and on everyone. Needed that Mika x Atra moment. |
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| "Last battle", just like a game...the final showdown! 4/5. |
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| McGillis' dramatic reunion with Almiria was very intense. His motivations only grow more and more interesting. I can't tell if he actually cares for her and loves her in a non-romantic sense, or rather the idea that she represents. Orga finally stands up for Tekkadan and lets McGillis know the ground they stand on. Orga's really been through the ringer this whole season, and I hope he can manage to guide Tekkadan to the best relative outcome in this predicament. Atra's confession to Mikazuki... just to much. Her love for him just seems so innocent and warm, I can't help but hope that she can somehow end up with him. Their last, fleeting moments before the battle to end all battles was definitely the highlight of the episode for me. |
sakura_sokoro said: You want mika x atra x kudelia but i think it will be orga x kudelia lolz...just like meribit and yukinoji-san its a wak when i learned about them lolz I actually liked the idea of Orga/Kudelia from the start but sadly I don't think it will happen. Orga might die after all, right? It's true that Kudelia somehow moved on from her feelings for Mikazuki but I still don't think there will be a romantic resolution but I hope I'm wrong. I ship Mikazuki/Atra and Orga/Kudelia. |
HatsumiShinoguFeb 22, 2017 3:52 AM
Old_Raven said: By removing Iznario Fareed and Gaelio, McGillis became the Head of 2 familes of the Seven Stars. And by leading Carta to her death and inheriting her position in the Outer Earth Orbit Something Something, he virtually took over the now memberless Issue family. It was all to increase his standing above the other Seven Stars. And now we know that Ein and Gaelio's relationship was the perfect means for him to test the Alaya-Vijnana surgery in adults. Except the need to become head of the Bauduin family is entirely non-sequitur once the Deus Ex Machina was revealed that whosoever sat in the Bael controls Gjallarhorn in its entirety. He wasn't even dual head when this happened, so it is and was completely pointless. I already said it was acceptable for him to use Carta and Ein. Getting rid of his adopted father was also a boon so he could consolidate control of Bael. He didn't need Gaelio at all; this was meta story writing. |
GrimanirFeb 22, 2017 5:21 AM
starkipraggy said: No, the reason why it had to be Gaelio is because Gaelio picked up Ein who was willing to do anything to avenge Crank. It wasn't so much of a plan as an opportunity. That Gaelio was easily pliable is but a bonus. He takes an awful lot of care with Almiria even though he's technically all powerful now. He definitely cares for her. I mean, I guess it could have been an opportunity to "get rid of a rival", but seriously; Gaelio would have done anything for McGillis. It was like Char and Garma except McGillis hasn't sworn revenge on Gaelio's family. Also, have you read my analysis of McGillis' treatment of Almiria? Looks like a form of mental complex to me. He's treating her well because he made a promise to do so and can't bear breaking it, not because he cares about her. That's how I see it anyway. Feel free to disagree though. He could care; that doesn't redeem him in my eyes :P |
rioplats said: the bael itself wasnt the endgame for McGillis it was just a final nail in the coffin to overtaking the families. He took out gaelio as well as carta because hes aiming for complete control over the entire government and gaelio would only be in his way especially once galeio would of inevitably found out what McGillis did to carta and ein. Gaelio was a loyal friend but he would turn on McGillis the second he learned of his corruption making him a liability, this was shown to be true hence why McGillis tried to kill him when he did. The timing was perfect as not only did he take out his father from power but also became the new heir to the bauduin and issue family all in basically the same day.Old_Raven said: By removing Iznario Fareed and Gaelio, McGillis became the Head of 2 familes of the Seven Stars. And by leading Carta to her death and inheriting her position in the Outer Earth Orbit Something Something, he virtually took over the now memberless Issue family. It was all to increase his standing above the other Seven Stars. And now we know that Ein and Gaelio's relationship was the perfect means for him to test the Alaya-Vijnana surgery in adults. Except the need to become head of the Bauduin family is entirely non-sequitur once the Deus Ex Machina was revealed that whosoever sat in the Bael controls Gjallarhorn in its entirety. He wasn't even dual head when this happened, so it is and was completely pointless. I already said it was acceptable for him to use Carta and Ein. Getting rid of his adopted father was also a boon so he could consolidate control of Bael. He didn't need Gaelio at all; this was meta story writing. The reason McGillis anticipated the 2 remaining families to back him was solely cause he had already amassed power over half the families due to his betrayals to both gaelio and carta equally. Without the other his plan would be evne more uncertain. He always intended to back rustal and Iok into a corner, take over control of 3 fleets (carta, fareed, and bauduin) then coerce the remaining 2 parties into joining him after the final straw of the bael was captured. It sucks for gaelio but he absolutly needed to die for this plan to work. Daniel_Naumov said: This would have to be the absolute worst possible option the show could ever go, like this is such a bad idea it would actually ruin the entirety of the show for not only wasting 40+ episodes of build up that already has McGillis on the path for final boss anyway, but also introducing nigh supernatural elements for the sake of it.Oh oh I got it, how it ends! As someone has suggested, for some reason Agnika takes control of McGillis's body and probably mind, like, "reicarnating", what McGillis would have certainly liked. He sends out a battle cry for the mobile armours, which would be 2 of them I guess, and both sides start wrecking a new, unpredecent foe - Bael + two mobile armours. |
JizzyHitlerFeb 23, 2017 9:18 AM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
starkipraggy said: No? McGillis himself even stated as much this episode, he didn't really expect to take full control of G.horn just by sitting in Bael (which is realistic -- think about it, will everyone obey Trump 100% just cuz he's the President of the US?). He off'd Carta and got her fleet and by extension her forces, so that he can actually put up any sort of fight against Rustal. If he had become the Baudwin family head as well he would have gotten their forces too. Bael just gives him a legitimate claim to being the sole leader of G.horn and allowing him to render the Seven Stars defunct once he establishes his superiority through military might. I just fail to see the link between said urgency/need for the Baudwin forces and what is represented in the episode. I do realise that he admitted to Orga that the Bael wouldn't mean absolute control, but his actions seem counteractive to his goal. Why was he so nonchalant last episode when Gaelio revealed himself? Why didn't he use the Bael to help the Barbatos kill Gaelio? Surely he would have known that Gallus and Almiria would find out Gaelio was alive if he escaped? "No need to chase him. My plan has succeeded." - his exact words. So basically: your choice of interpretation. Either McGillis is poorly written on purpose or his plan is terrible and flawed. In either interpretation, it is Okada's onus; she needed Tekkadan to be involved (McGillis had to be outmatched by Rustal), so McGillis couldn't get his hands on the Baudwin forces, so she just dropped the idea unresolved. |
AnimeSoap said: Comander-07 said: Thank you for reminding me why I kinda hate this seasons gundam. Its all so epic, but why would you introduce Kudelia like the most important character of the universe and then make her sit behing a desk for the whole second season?! This is a biiiig minus for the series in general. I will definitely rewatch everything when its over, but I hope for something in the last 6 episodes. Also I need the piano cover of the main theme that played in the middle of the episode. It was epic. McGillis might get the lelouch ending. Would surely fit his character. I do want him to be a good person in the end. What would Kudelia even do? Help Mika fight the mobile armor? I get wanting Kudelia to be more relevant but there really hasn't been any reason when Tekkadan is constantly in armed conflict. She achieved her s1 goal and stayed in a political position to keep working, her current role makes sense. She might become relevant again though Like idk negotiating and stuff. Why does she even exist atm. She literally sits behind a desk without doing anything. Obviously she would not fight herself, but maybe unite the mars forces to join tekkadan or negotiate with the earth forces to seice support for gjallarhorn. Like something. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| All that buildup... I do hope I won't be disappointed by this "final battle". There is no clear "bad guy". Maybe McGillis, but this old dude they're all fighting against... who's he again? It's not like he's had much of an introduction. Why should I side with him instead of the "traitor"? |
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| That scene between Almiria and McGillis damn... This episode was a typical calm before the storm. That ending...did something else happened between Atra and Mikazuki??? Noice said: Sooooo. . . did atra and mikazuki do it inside of barbatos? I mean. . . they did make it a point to say the whole ship was empty. . . Yes, I thought exactly the same. |
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| All says that it will be the last battle, but i belive the death are greater to other battles!!! :/ |
GangsterCat said: yea funny how season 1 it seems everyone acting like kudelia is so important and will change everything season 2? completely irrelevant and doing jackshit to anything. Yeah I was a fan of Kudelia in first season, but she just lost alot of spotlight on S2, that I even didnt care that much for her anymore, "nice" way to put you stop caring about certain characters... Also poor Almiria, but still there is some truth in what McGillis says, I cant blame it 100%, talk about the gray zone. |
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| Almiria now has McGillis's blood on her hands. I think Agnika is a brain in a tank. |
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| The last fight.... So ominous |
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