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Feb 13, 2017 11:50 PM

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Another very good episode!
Surprisingly Nikaidou seems more mature and resolved than Kiriyama.
LOL at the Chairman messing with Kiriyama-wama!
Kyouko finally and accidentally met the three sisters! Kawamoto sisters! Momo's terrified! Akari is level headed & Hinata is so worried for Kiriyama!
for a moment I want to kill that Kyouko bitch for saying to Kiriyama that he might destroy that family of three sisters.
Kyouko is a glutton for eating almost all the food Hinata prepared for Kiriyama!
I feel so good that Kyouko felt the sense/feeling of defeat when she realized that Akari is almost the same age as her but Akari is more adult looking and much much more beautiful and sexy than her!
Feb 14, 2017 6:37 AM

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Ah man, seeing Shimada work so hard is so touching :3 Even though it seems like he knows he'll (probably) lose ... I hope he makes it to the 6th match to play in his hometown :D The white-haired guy is kinda scary too huh XD Anyway we get to see the sisters finally giving Rei some food while he's with Kyouko ... and more of Kyouko and their father not seeing eye to eye at all. It seems like she's reached sort of an impasse with Rei though at least? In any case Nikaidou seems to have really grown, he seems a lot more mature and sure of himself and what he wants to do. Good for you :D Plus he's promoted this year too, yayyy :3 Anyway I'm guessing the rest of the anime will cover the next month or so until the end of the tournament. I'm cheering for you Shimada!!! :P
Feb 14, 2017 10:42 AM
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I understand he's struggling with life, but I really wish he would stop being such a pussy and tell her to fuck off at least once. Her character is so fucking annoying. She spews hateful insults, definitely worthy of him telling her off, and he lets it go. Then she goes to his house AGAIN and eats all his food? Wut?
Modified by Kougai, Feb 14, 2017 10:45 AM
Feb 14, 2017 11:03 AM
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Reaper71 said:
Kyouko is what puts this show over the top for me. The way her interactions with Rei bring out other sides of both of them is the most organic character development I've seen in an anime in a long time. Bringing the sisters into the mix just made the whole thing a lot more interesting as well.

Couldn't have said it better myself. The writing is superb, and the interactions between Kyouko and Rei are just so entertaining to watch.
Feb 14, 2017 1:44 PM

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Hina is a formidable woman... And, unexpectedly, Kyouko appears to be a glutton.

The glimpses into the world of shogi and the mindsets of its denizens were captivating, yet again. Curiously enough, for Rei, Souya may be a sign of things to come (an embodiment of his aspirations and pitfalls), The stark contrast between the characters intrigues me.
Feb 14, 2017 5:51 PM

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Loved the episode! One of the best things about this show is the three sisters
Feb 14, 2017 11:54 PM

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Momo and Nikaidou are both too pure, those two always make an episode more enjoyable for me.

interested to see how they're gonna wrap the series up in the next five episodes though, makes me wonder if there might be a chance for a second season.
Modified by nougat, Feb 14, 2017 11:59 PM
Feb 16, 2017 7:22 PM
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sisters vs witch quite fun interaction & badmouthing.
Both Kyouko & Rei "sinking" in their lost ocean of life goals, great imagery & something they unfortunately share. Too bright? Nikaidou might be the mature lighthouse Rei needs.
Feb 18, 2017 10:38 AM

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You guys, you do realize that Rei is in love with Kyouko? Torturous love but still love nonetheless and he has been since they were little. Kyouko knows it and isn't above using it, but at the same time, she has certain very complicated feelings for Rei, too. She's a strong-willed person and a tempest, but Rei possesses a kind of strength that she doesn't, and she can't help very begrudgingly admiring it and be attracted to it. And want to test it every chance she gets, which is what she's been doing with her poisonous words about Rei's upcoming opponents, for example.

There is A LOT she's in denial about and can't admit to herself because of pride, hurt, etc. Her stalking Gotou is from this category, too, very much a Daddy complex with the bonus to torture Rei a bit and shove it into his face that even if he's the chosen by their father, he's not chosen by her and can't do anything about who she chooses even if he doesn't like her choice. For all of the above, Kyouko is a character second in complexity only to Rei himself. The Kawamoto sisters, despite being mains, aren't anywhere close to her.
Feb 18, 2017 5:59 PM

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Momo certainly popped out of nowhere. It left me genuinely shocked.
Feb 19, 2017 5:55 PM

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Gah Kyoko just needs to go!
Feb 23, 2017 5:30 AM

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Tbh, I love Kyouko moments in the anime.

Those sisters tho XD
Feb 25, 2017 4:19 AM

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Kyouko looking good as always.
Feb 26, 2017 2:24 PM

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Nikaido up to C-3 League, the same to Rei!!!!

Hello, my litte boy!

Feb 26, 2017 2:35 PM
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man... his sister had such a shitty attitude already but eating his food really crossed the line. Now Rei won't get anything of the food Akari and Hinata made :< he even had to eat that shitty instant ramen again. Honestly I wish we'd see her less often. There also isn't much progress and we didn't get to hear more about their past together (srsly there was this one flashback Rei had a while ago. It was rather unsettling and we still don't know what exactly happened)
Feb 28, 2017 3:18 AM

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Kyouko is such a fascinating character.

Loved Momo and Hina's reactions to Kyouko, btw. Hina sticking up for Rei was wonderful.
Mar 21, 2017 5:33 AM

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Lel Momo's reactions to Kyouko were so cute
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Apr 5, 2017 6:55 AM

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Poor Momo was totally afraid :( Pretty nice episode and some strong character and story development! Let's see what's next though.
Apr 13, 2017 10:19 AM

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poor Kyouko she just want to be loved.
I find it Kyouko is an interesting character, she's in a state which both hate and love for the same person, Rei.

I'm wondering if there will be romantic relationship between them, which is I already guess they actually have that feelings a little bit, judging by Rei "past" with Kyouko in that room.

and I also wondering which one the three sister would fall more for Rei, I personally prefer Akari x Rei rather than Hina x Rei, since Akari is the one who brought Rei into her family. Momo is out of question.
Jun 4, 2017 3:34 AM

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One of the best episodes loved every second.
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Jun 6, 2017 6:31 AM
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Kyouko does whatever she wants and when she gets called out by her father she runs to Rei for support and plays the victim, because she certainly won't get it any support from Gotou.
Jul 2, 2017 6:02 AM
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Man I don't know who to hate more rei because he can't stand up for himself or that lunatic bitch who is trying to get sympathy. Kyouko seriously ruined this show for me.
Jul 24, 2017 9:23 AM

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Honestly I don't know what to think of Kiriyama's sister. At one moment I wanna choke the bitch, and the next I feel sorry for her.
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Aug 16, 2017 3:15 AM

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I like Kyouko as a character...her presence livens up the show a lot, in differing ways
But her scenes do seem a little pointless, she didn't really progress much(yet?)
Oct 19, 2017 1:08 PM

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Good character building, as usual. Also interesting is the construction of interpersonal bonds and their evolution, this is the strong point of this anime series, but narration remains a fist in the stomach whenever it is. In the end Rei's sister-in-law is not bad, it would be nice if she met with the three sisters, it would be interesting to see. Momo is too sweet, Hinata has the courage to sell, good!
Aug 23, 2018 5:45 PM

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Kyouko is written to be the worst, right? I don't see how anyone could sympathize with a girl who emotionally abuses Rei and then crashes at his place/eats his food.
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Nov 4, 2018 5:12 PM
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I hate how Rei let's her walk all over him, it makes me feel really overwhelmed by sadness, I much prefer the lovely character development with Rei and the sisters. I'd much prefer if Kyouko wasn't in it because as CatSoul say's, she continually emotionally abuses Rei with little to no self reflection and redemptive qualities.
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Dec 30, 2018 1:54 PM

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What the fuck? That bitch Kyouko ate the food Hina and Akari made. Rei let it happen? Damn, this is frustrating.

4/5 episode.

Jan 2, 5:05 PM

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kyouko makes me super mad, i hate how she keeps on abusing rei emotionally and he just kind of lets it happen.
Feb 15, 1:32 PM

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Souya's appearance was really well animated and when they cut of the sound made it even more interesting for me.

Kinda late for this but I will say it, Kyouko is really a copy of Asuka from NGE.
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Feb 19, 6:29 PM
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Meh, the first part about the shogi finals bored me quite a bit (except Shouya's smile. Wtf?!) but after that it improved a lot.

It's like Rei is in love with Kyouko and she knows it so she knows she can toy with him all she wants. She even eat the sister's food!!! Rei is really dumb: don't ever leave your dinner unprotected.

Momo ready to save the day hahaha. What a cute little child.
Feb 28, 9:25 AM
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At this point you just want to hug Kyouko and send her to a qualified therapist.
Mar 27, 10:59 AM

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Momo and Hina's reactions towards that fight were super funny, I loved it!
I'm starting to feel sorry for Kyouko's current situation.
Jun 3, 11:01 PM

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You tell her Momo.

Shimada lost the first match. I hope he gets to win at least two so he can play in his hometown, although that sounds like a huge wall to climb. Souya seems to be popping up a lot. Will he become more significant down the line? I'm not sure how I should feel about Kyouko. I always feel conflicted when she appears. On one hand, she is completely a witch like Momo said, but on the other, she seems to have very real and very troubling issues plaguing her. I guess that's just a testament to how complex these characters are.
Jun 28, 3:25 AM

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Picking this again after dropping it when it aired the first time. Seeing the high rating of season 2 has tempted by to give the series another chance.

I hate her, but Kyouko is really a well written character.
Jun 28, 5:59 PM

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I feel like the show is really trying hard to make me feel bad for Kyouko at times and I just can't do it. I hate her so much and every time I see her touch Rei I openly cringe.
Random note, I was going to keep watching but damn if I just really love the ED song so I had to stop to go listen to Bootleg for the 10000 time.

Oct 3, 7:06 AM

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Lmao momo appearing out of nowhere, totally scared

Damn that witch for eating the food and blaming Rei for all kinds of things without taking a look at herself first
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Oct 14, 6:22 PM

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Yes Momo-chan!! She's a witch!!! I missed this 3 sisters.. Hina give him obento and give dagger look to that bitch !! That bitch is really really really annoying!!! I hate that she's in the scene with the 3 sisters! I can't completely skip it! I hate Rei still talk to that girl ! He should leave her and go with the sisters instead!

Why she's eating Rei's bento!!?? Grrrrrrrr
I skip again!!!
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