TheBrainintheJar said: Cirno9 said: This is so true, so fucking true. Why can't people get that in their mind? And later on they complain about "friendzone". One sentence is enough: "I have enough friends, I'm looking for a relationship, not for more friendships." Ezpz, problem solved. Why people think it's so easy to show intentions, or that sometimes they take time to develop? Why do you always have to disagree with me? I can't answer that, but it is pisseasy to show intentions. I even gave you a phrase, that's literally the only thing you have to say and everyone knows your intentions. Honestly, even if it takes time you can still say that you want more, problem solved. |
Cirno9 said: TheBrainintheJar said: Why people think it's so easy to show intentions, or that sometimes they take time to develop? Why do you always have to disagree with me? I can't answer that, but it is pisseasy to show intentions. I even gave you a phrase, that's literally the only thing you have to say and everyone knows your intentions. Honestly, even if it takes time you can still say that you want more, problem solved. I'm a Socrates fanboy. I like asking questions and understanding why people think what they do. Why do you think it's so easy to utter such a loaded, emotional phrase? |
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| I don't think I understand. Guy was interested in girl, but she wasn't interested in him. End of story. Why would it be anyone's fault? |
TheBrainintheJar said: Cirno9 said: Why do you always have to disagree with me? I can't answer that, but it is pisseasy to show intentions. I even gave you a phrase, that's literally the only thing you have to say and everyone knows your intentions. Honestly, even if it takes time you can still say that you want more, problem solved. I'm a Socrates fanboy. I like asking questions and understanding why people think what they do. Why do you think it's so easy to utter such a loaded, emotional phrase? I don't have any empathy. Actually, I have no idea, but I never thought that this sentence is emotionally loaded. Well, I know what I want, maybe that's why it's easy for me, idk. |
Cirno9 said: Mayling said: It's obviously the guys fault for not making his intentions clear in so-called friendzone cases, only trying something while being drunk out of his ass - most likely ruining the friendship by the ensuing awkwardness. Most of the time we believe we're just friends, and don't really think deeper than that. You can't go around questioning every guys motives, thinking he's inadvertently hitting on you... This is so true, so fucking true. Why can't people get that in their mind? And later on they complain about "friendzone". One sentence is enough: "I have enough friends, I'm looking for a relationship, not for more friendships." Ezpz, problem solved. Exactly! Just say it outright, don't blame the girl for "friend zoning" you |
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| its always the guys fault. I KNOW! i have been friend zoned a few times. it was always my fault. |
| The friendzone like 99.9% of the time is the pursuer's fault. There are so many men (and women) who just can't state their feelings explicitly or just can't take no for an answer. Of course there are women (and men) who will use people they know are in love with them like the picture OP posted... but generally (save for the extreme examples similar to OP's picture) the "friendzone" is just a crazy construct made by salty men and women who can't take rejection. If a girl or guy doesn't see you romantically, that's that. You're not being attacked and they don't owe you anything. |
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Cirno9 said: TheBrainintheJar said: I'm a Socrates fanboy. I like asking questions and understanding why people think what they do. Why do you think it's so easy to utter such a loaded, emotional phrase? I don't have any empathy. Actually, I have no idea, but I never thought that this sentence is emotionally loaded. Well, I know what I want, maybe that's why it's easy for me, idk. Showing a woman I'm interested in isn't tough physically. It's not like lifting a 40-kilo weight. The difficulty is psychological, since the consequences of rejection, or humiliation are scary. Besides, she might also say 'yes' which is another scary consequence - where do we go from here? To quote Kierkagaard, anxiety is the dizziness of freedom. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: Cirno9 said: I don't have any empathy. Actually, I have no idea, but I never thought that this sentence is emotionally loaded. Well, I know what I want, maybe that's why it's easy for me, idk. Showing a woman I'm interested in isn't tough physically. It's not like lifting a 40-kilo weight. The difficulty is psychological, since the consequences of rejection, or humiliation are scary. Besides, she might also say 'yes' which is another scary consequence - where do we go from here? To quote Kierkagaard, anxiety is the dizziness of freedom. Honestly, you get used to a "no". How often did you try to approach a girl on the street or in public in general? You almost piss your pants the first time, but after 3-4 attempts it becomes natural for that day. A "no" is something you have to accept, take it as it is and move on. If some girl ain't looking for a relationship you are wasting your time, unless you want to be friendzoned. Same goes for "yes" imo. It's nothing to be afraid of, she is interested, you are interested, where do you go now? Guess what, a step further, there is nothing wrong with kissing a girl on the first date, even if it is just on the cheek. Just use your chance, these guys who still end up in the friendzone just can't keep theirselves interesting enough. If she is interested she is willing to do something for you too, don't chase her for pete's sake and just be yourself. There is no magic behind this, neither did some talented guy sell his soul, they just do it and pick women up. |
Marrone said: Gov said:  The picture above is absolutely pathetic. Do we blame the guy for not making his intentions clear from the beginning or the girl who continued this charade with shit like ""friend date". Wtf even is that? Then she had the nerve to put #stillsingletho. Who do we blame for this? This bitch needs to get slapped. Girls seem to have the upper hand when it comes to dating, the dating world is hugely in favour of women. How the fuck do you go on all these dates and hang out together (one-on-one) and call it a 'friend date'. The fuck is a friend date? The guy should have told her though in words. It's clear from their 'dates' he's into her. The girl is still to blame however. That's definitely the right attitude, blame the others, don't even think about looking for mistakes when it comes to yourself, you are perfect. /s Blame the guy, he is doing everything wrong. Being nice ain't enough, how many nice girls did you meet? Plenty, they are still are uninteresting as fuck. Same goes for guys, if you are not interesting enough I wouldn't bear you. How is the world into womens favor? I'm really curioius right now. NINJAEDIT: You can't force someone to love you because you are being nice to her. Deal with it and move on. |
| in most cases its either nobodys fault or both peoples fault, since obviously its one party likes the other in a sexual way when the other party dont just cuz you had the balls to assert your feelings earlier doesnt mean its gonna get returned at all so, yeah. but yes, if u do have any sexual feelings just ask them out already. altho timing can fuck all kind of shit up. perhaps s/he likes someone currently so s/he couldnt see you in a sexual way, so theres cons for asking out earlier as well. basically just roll the dice whenever you feel like it and see where it goes. |
| I blame the guy in this case. No one should date a guy who thinks that those retarded pants look good, or are appropriate to wear in public. |
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Cirno9 said: TheBrainintheJar said: Showing a woman I'm interested in isn't tough physically. It's not like lifting a 40-kilo weight. The difficulty is psychological, since the consequences of rejection, or humiliation are scary. Besides, she might also say 'yes' which is another scary consequence - where do we go from here? To quote Kierkagaard, anxiety is the dizziness of freedom. Honestly, you get used to a "no". How often did you try to approach a girl on the street or in public in general? You almost piss your pants the first time, but after 3-4 attempts it becomes natural for that day. A "no" is something you have to accept, take it as it is and move on. If some girl ain't looking for a relationship you are wasting your time, unless you want to be friendzoned. Same goes for "yes" imo. It's nothing to be afraid of, she is interested, you are interested, where do you go now? Guess what, a step further, there is nothing wrong with kissing a girl on the first date, even if it is just on the cheek. Just use your chance, these guys who still end up in the friendzone just can't keep theirselves interesting enough. If she is interested she is willing to do something for you too, don't chase her for pete's sake and just be yourself. There is no magic behind this, neither did some talented guy sell his soul, they just do it and pick women up. In my experience, the more rejections you get the worse they hurt. There is no offset. If all you get is rejections, then it's not worth doing it just for the sake of experience. A new pain is interesting. An old one is a re-run. There are all kinds of weird rules behind dating, and the fear that you're getting them wrong is paralyzing. |
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| Obviously he's in the friend zone because of how tight his pants are and this whole situation looks cringey. Lol at "#stillsingletho". I would be embarrassed and probably a bit mad if I was the dude getting tagged in this. |
BlareyFeb 16, 2017 3:00 AM
| The friendzone does not exist unless you're a retard who make it up because you're too much of a pussy to accept rejection. Change your standards to people who actually cares about you instead of just being pretty and keeping you around to get free stuff and self-esteem boost from you. Also stop buying stuff, you're materialist and shallow af, that's cringy. Get a personality, make girls know you're a love interest and not just "a nice guy" who agrees to everything she says and support her no matter what she do, you're a fucking doormat. Everyone is expected to be nice, that's not an advantage, it's what everyone should be by default. Girls want more than free dinners and activities together, they want dicks, stop acting like a friend and start acting like a boyfriend. And remember stop fucking blaming a place that don't exist outside your mind, look at the real problems and mend them, that's how you get shit done. Wake the fuck up. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: Cirno9 said: Honestly, you get used to a "no". How often did you try to approach a girl on the street or in public in general? You almost piss your pants the first time, but after 3-4 attempts it becomes natural for that day. A "no" is something you have to accept, take it as it is and move on. If some girl ain't looking for a relationship you are wasting your time, unless you want to be friendzoned. Same goes for "yes" imo. It's nothing to be afraid of, she is interested, you are interested, where do you go now? Guess what, a step further, there is nothing wrong with kissing a girl on the first date, even if it is just on the cheek. Just use your chance, these guys who still end up in the friendzone just can't keep theirselves interesting enough. If she is interested she is willing to do something for you too, don't chase her for pete's sake and just be yourself. There is no magic behind this, neither did some talented guy sell his soul, they just do it and pick women up. In my experience, the more rejections you get the worse they hurt. There is no offset. If all you get is rejections, then it's not worth doing it just for the sake of experience. A new pain is interesting. An old one is a re-run. There are all kinds of weird rules behind dating, and the fear that you're getting them wrong is paralyzing. Lmao. It's the opposite for me, I just stop giving a fuck. Marrone said: Cirno9 said: That's definitely the right attitude, blame the others, don't even think about looking for mistakes when it comes to yourself, you are perfect. /s Blame the guy, he is doing everything wrong. Being nice ain't enough, how many nice girls did you meet? Plenty, they are still are uninteresting as fuck. Same goes for guys, if you are not interesting enough I wouldn't bear you. How is the world into womens favor? I'm really curioius right now. NINJAEDIT: You can't force someone to love you because you are being nice to her. Deal with it and move on. 1. I mentioned how the guy should have made it clear by telling her in words as maybe their 'dates' weren't clear enough signs. So yeah. 2. Lol that's your assumption. How do you know if he's boring or not? Why would that girl hang out with him so much if she found him boring? I don't like spending time with uninteresting people and it's the same with most people from experience. 3. I said the dating world is in women's favour. Who has to make more contacting and first moves? Men. Because we are 'supposed to'. Online dating sites also have a higher ratio of men to women, allowing them to be more picky. While guys have a smaller selection of potential partners. 1. Kiss her after the date, what's more obvious? 2. Not interesting enough as a sexual partner. Not the alpha she is looking for. 3. There are 101 men for every 100 women out there, but feel free to stick on your dating platform. Thing is, don't men pick the women when they make the first moves or approach a girl? Oh. A womens choice is "yes or no", a mens choice is "which woman should I try to approach". Sounds fair to me. |
| Both, him for being such a fucking scrub and not talking out about his intentions, making him insecure and inexperienced. And her for having issues noticing shit or not reacting to it. Depending on why she isn't reacting, you can say she's either ignorant of how people work or that she's a gold digger. I'm obviously talking about this example here. I didn't have these type of experiences because I'm very direct, there are some cases when it's not preferable though, disregard those because they are my personal cases, but dragging shit for too long and not giving any type of signs or not pushing it a bit means you're doing it all wrong. And when someone's asking you to go out with him, you usually take it as if he's not trying to befriend you, it would be so much better if people would communicate more though. Like, a lot more. It's too bad we're made to engage while they'll wait it out for us to do shit. It gets tiring sometimes. |
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Cirno9 said: TheBrainintheJar said: In my experience, the more rejections you get the worse they hurt. There is no offset. If all you get is rejections, then it's not worth doing it just for the sake of experience. A new pain is interesting. An old one is a re-run. There are all kinds of weird rules behind dating, and the fear that you're getting them wrong is paralyzing. Lmao. It's the opposite for me, I just stop giving a fuck. Marrone said: 1. I mentioned how the guy should have made it clear by telling her in words as maybe their 'dates' weren't clear enough signs. So yeah. 2. Lol that's your assumption. How do you know if he's boring or not? Why would that girl hang out with him so much if she found him boring? I don't like spending time with uninteresting people and it's the same with most people from experience. 3. I said the dating world is in women's favour. Who has to make more contacting and first moves? Men. Because we are 'supposed to'. Online dating sites also have a higher ratio of men to women, allowing them to be more picky. While guys have a smaller selection of potential partners. 1. Kiss her after the date, what's more obvious? 2. Not interesting enough as a sexual partner. Not the alpha she is looking for. 3. There are 101 men for every 100 women out there, but feel free to stick on your dating platform. Thing is, don't men pick the women when they make the first moves or approach a girl? Oh. A womens choice is "yes or no", a mens choice is "which woman should I try to approach". Sounds fair to me. Being able to choose 'yes or no' is better. Since that means you can choose 'yes'. As for the guys, they can choose 100 women, all of which will say 'no'. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: Cirno9 said: Lmao. It's the opposite for me, I just stop giving a fuck. 1. Kiss her after the date, what's more obvious? 2. Not interesting enough as a sexual partner. Not the alpha she is looking for. 3. There are 101 men for every 100 women out there, but feel free to stick on your dating platform. Thing is, don't men pick the women when they make the first moves or approach a girl? Oh. A womens choice is "yes or no", a mens choice is "which woman should I try to approach". Sounds fair to me. Being able to choose 'yes or no' is better. Since that means you can choose 'yes'. As for the guys, they can choose 100 women, all of which will say 'no'. Funfact: If you ask 40 average looking females if they want to have sex with you one will say yes. I think you ignore the fact that men ignore 100s of girls too. Yes, a girl has the might to say "yes" or "no", BUT if she is interested into some, guess what will happen? Nothing. What's worse, not being able pick someone up or being the one who doesnt decide. And if you swap roles and the girl talks to you fist you have the possibility to say "no" too. Men are in an advantage, what you do with it is absolutely your choice. |
Cirno9 said: TheBrainintheJar said: Being able to choose 'yes or no' is better. Since that means you can choose 'yes'. As for the guys, they can choose 100 women, all of which will say 'no'. Funfact: If you ask 40 average looking females if they want to have sex with you one will say yes. I think you ignore the fact that men ignore 100s of girls too. Yes, a girl has the might to say "yes" or "no", BUT if she is interested into some, guess what will happen? Nothing. What's worse, not being able pick someone up or being the one who doesnt decide. And if you swap roles and the girl talks to you fist you have the possibility to say "no" too. Men are in an advantage, what you do with it is absolutely your choice. Men are not at an advantage at all. They cannot be on autopilot. Every effort will always be concentrated on one girl. Whereas a girl can, supposedly, stride into a social event and guys will hit on her. She may not be interested in them, but she has options. She's halfway there - someone already wants her. The guy doesn't have such options. He creates his options, but they're never really options since he can't decide if it goes or not. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: Cirno9 said: Funfact: If you ask 40 average looking females if they want to have sex with you one will say yes. I think you ignore the fact that men ignore 100s of girls too. Yes, a girl has the might to say "yes" or "no", BUT if she is interested into some, guess what will happen? Nothing. What's worse, not being able pick someone up or being the one who doesnt decide. And if you swap roles and the girl talks to you fist you have the possibility to say "no" too. Men are in an advantage, what you do with it is absolutely your choice. Men are not at an advantage at all. They cannot be on autopilot. Every effort will always be concentrated on one girl. Whereas a girl can, supposedly, stride into a social event and guys will hit on her. She may not be interested in them, but she has options. She's halfway there - someone already wants her. The guy doesn't have such options. He creates his options, but they're never really options since he can't decide if it goes or not. What holds you back? c: Just by the way, the first one only counts for women who actually look good. Some girl who is (below) average will have a way harder time than a guy on the same level. Because he can creat opportunities, she probably lost. |
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| it's either neighther of them or both of them. The guy should've just said how he felt about her at the end or something, so she wouldn't think of it just as a 'friend date' lmao, whut is a friend date? Shouldn't be called like 'hanging out' or smthin...? Oh yeah & the girl, I feel like she was just adding salt to his deeply cut friendzone wound '#stillsingletho', is shes lowkey saying that the date is something she'd want from her boyfriend but she just thinks of him as a friend? The date thing was a pretty obvious 'hint' about his feelings for her, but he should just say something to make it even more clear :pppp |
Cirno9 said: TheBrainintheJar said: Men are not at an advantage at all. They cannot be on autopilot. Every effort will always be concentrated on one girl. Whereas a girl can, supposedly, stride into a social event and guys will hit on her. She may not be interested in them, but she has options. She's halfway there - someone already wants her. The guy doesn't have such options. He creates his options, but they're never really options since he can't decide if it goes or not. What holds you back? c: Just by the way, the first one only counts for women who actually look good. Some girl who is (below) average will have a way harder time than a guy on the same level. Because he can creat opportunities, she probably lost. In my experience, a lot of woman who aren't 'traditionally beautiful' (I use this term specifically. I was attracted to some girls that don't really fit either) still get offers. The media shows us a narrow style of beauty. Many people agree with it, but many will have other fetishes or tastes that makes their pool of attractive women larger. In general, I'd say most men are attracted to the beauty standard, and a little more beyond that. What holds me back is my own psychology, but that's not the issue. The issue is, I don't have options. I can't just decide whether a relationship exists or not. I am not offered anything but has to work for it. Being offered things may mean less options, but it does mean the options exist. |
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| It depends. If the guy made it clear about his feelings for her or that he is courting her and the girl knew about it and went along with him only to put him in friend-zone list, then, mostly the girl is at fault since it's almost as if she just played with his feelings. If the guy likes the girl but didn't made it clear, didn't told her about his feelings about her or that he's courting.. and did all of that in order to win her heart, then he cannot blame the girl for putting him in friendzone. He's the one at fault for not clearing things out. |
| *Yawn* Not gonna argue again with a stupid troll. |
| its the first one to approach/have feelings for and not telling them's fault. |
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| lmao who even gives flowers when it seems like their relationship is undefined what a fucking cuckaroo; dude is trying too hard dude is a cuck and the girl has to be oblivious if horseback riding, ice cream, and flowers aren't enough to see what his intent is she is likely playing his ass like a fiddle who is at fault? no one they both stupid af |
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Cuebee said: It depends. If the guy made it clear about his feelings for her or that he is courting her and the girl knew about it and went along with him only to put him in friend-zone list, then, mostly the girl is at fault since it's almost as if she just played with his feelings. If the guy likes the girl but didn't made it clear, didn't told her about his feelings about her or that he's courting.. and did all of that in order to win her heart, then he cannot blame the girl for putting him in friendzone. He's the one at fault for not clearing things out. Such leading on, I think, doesn't happen that much. Once you make your feelings clear things explode. It's either agreement or nothing at all. |
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 I think this picture here encapsulates everything wrong with the friendzone. |
| I suppose it would depend on the situation whose fault it is. With this picture I'd say it's the girl's fault though. If a guy goes through all that for you then you should probably take a hint that there's some feelings there. |
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| The guy's fault. He couldn't make her feel romantically attracted to him. She's not doing anything any differently. |
ComputerBreath said: I suppose it would depend on the situation whose fault it is. With this picture I'd say it's the girl's fault though. If a guy goes through all that for you then you should probably take a hint that there's some feelings there. Some people are oblivious, though. Or maybe they just really don't want to know. Besides, it's the the person who desires the relationship to make a move. They need to make it clear they want the relationship. Until then, the other party doesn't owe them anything. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: ComputerBreath said: I suppose it would depend on the situation whose fault it is. With this picture I'd say it's the girl's fault though. If a guy goes through all that for you then you should probably take a hint that there's some feelings there. Some people are oblivious, though. Or maybe they just really don't want to know. Besides, it's the the person who desires the relationship to make a move. They need to make it clear they want the relationship. Until then, the other party doesn't owe them anything. I can agree with that too. All he had to was just say something but who knows maybe after he saw that picture he was like "...wait hold up" and did say something to her. |
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ComputerBreath said: TheBrainintheJar said: Some people are oblivious, though. Or maybe they just really don't want to know. Besides, it's the the person who desires the relationship to make a move. They need to make it clear they want the relationship. Until then, the other party doesn't owe them anything. I can agree with that too. All he had to was just say something but who knows maybe after he saw that picture he was like "...wait hold up" and did say something to her. I hope he did. It's a shitty place to be in. It's best to say everything and then cut off. |
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Gov said: The picture above is absolutely pathetic. Do we blame the guy for not making his intentions clear from the beginning or the girl who continued this charade with shit like ""friend date". Wtf even is that? Then she had the nerve to put #stillsingletho. Who do we blame for this? her and YOU! thats way too much for a date you did too much. maybe just one of those would have been cool next time tell her to tell her boyfriend to do all that ish for her |
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| It is nobody's fault if it just doesn't make out, but if there are no intentions shown that a person (equally boys and girls) doesn't want anything more, it is their mistake not showing it from the start. |
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Gov said: The picture above is absolutely pathetic. Do we blame the guy for not making his intentions clear from the beginning or the girl who continued this charade with shit like ""friend date". Wtf even is that? Then she had the nerve to put #stillsingletho. Who do we blame for this? Holy fuck. That hash at the end. Fucking dead. |
| They're both at fault, though the girl here is more to blame than the guy. No offense to this dude and I don't know him but judging by this one pic alone he looks like a straight up joke, he deserves to be friendzoned looking like that. Now the girl, most girls aren't dumb and they usually know when a guy is trying to be more than friends, she shouldn't have led him on like that, especially if the guy hadn't made his intentions clear. A decent human being with enough self esteem wouldn't do this, and that fucking hashtag at the end, holy shit, that was completely unnecessary. |
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