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Can someone with 1000 completed anime still be a casual?

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Feb 7, 2017 11:19 PM

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I know there's a sort of idea that casuals are people who haven't seen much and watch anime casually, but I know there are at least some definitions that would allow someone who has seen a lot to still be a casual. I've completed over 800 anime but some will still call me a casual since I only watch an hour or two a day.

To you is the term "casual" more about taste (liking mostly one genre), amount seen (less than 200 maybe), how much watched regularly (hour a day possibly), or something else?
 
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Feb 7, 2017 11:30 PM

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To me "casual" is about the amount of interest in anime. Somebody who watches a lot isn't a casual (but might be a newbie). Somebody who has been watching for a very long time isn't a casual either (such a stable interest is pretty impressive on its own).
 
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I'm nearing 3k completed, but I don't consider myself any kid of elitist or w.e. I'm fairly casual as far as my opinions IMO. I dislike labels in general.

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I guess if that person has literally been watching anime for 25+ years...

I mean lets do the math.

A person who has been watching anime for 25 years and has 1,000 completed anime.

That gives a nice whole number of 40 anime per year.

Considering that OVAs, movies, shorts, and specials are also counted as that total....

It's not THAT much...
 
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I've only seen a little over 200 and I wouldn't call myself a casual.


Honestly, it's a pointless label. Don't worry too much on it. There's nothing wrong with being a casual to begin with.
 
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doesnt matter if you've seen 3000 shows or seconds, you can label yourself whatever you want if it helps you feel less guilty wasting your life watching anime
 
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I've been watching anime on and off since the early 80's with over 750 completed but definitely think of myself as a "casual" in that it's just something I enjoy, but not something I live and breath.

So, yeah, I don't see why not.

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1000 completed anime but still be a casual?
How’s that possible?
 
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Feb 8, 2017 1:33 AM

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You're a casual if you choose a sorcerer as your first class or you use a bow. That's all there is to it.


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Feb 8, 2017 2:14 AM
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No.

That makes no sense..... Zombie, you're smarter than that!
 
Feb 8, 2017 2:17 AM

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1000 "completions" then yeah

1000 tv series completions then not really..

but i woldnt say anime hours per day is the right metric for casualness.... and if youre avrage is closer to 2 hours that's like a lot @_@
 
Feb 8, 2017 2:23 AM

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Ununpentium said:
You're a casual if you choose a sorcerer as your first class or you use a bow. That's all there is to it.


Ain't it warrior and archer? Less newbie actually win their first game using int-type or AP user, so ain't it more technical to not use classes with higher versatility?

OT: Yes as long that 1000 were not reached within 1-2 years.
 
Feb 8, 2017 2:24 AM

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Dunno.
I think that the time you spend watching anime every day is more important, I usually spend somewhere in between 2 or 6 hours during week time, and 10+ during the weekend, and I've been doing this for more than 6 years.
No idea if that counts as a casual or not.
I used to watch more when I started though.
 
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What do you gain from not being called a casual? there's no extra gain from being a casual or an elitist.
 
Feb 8, 2017 2:43 AM

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Zaphkiel_El_Rem said:
Ununpentium said:
You're a casual if you choose a sorcerer as your first class or you use a bow. That's all there is to it.


Ain't it warrior and archer? Less newbie actually win their first game using int-type or AP user, so ain't it more technical to not use classes with higher versatility?

OT: Yes as long that 1000 were not reached within 1-2 years.
Nah, warrior is fine, since he's melee. It's all about dodging and attacking in a right moment, so archer and sorcerer are the most casual classes you could choose,since all you have to do is keep distance and shoot spells or arrows.


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guys, what OP means is not elitist vs casual kind of things...

but simply "casual" viewer in original sense...

people who watch anime casually...

that's it...

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No.

That makes no sense..... Zombie, you're smarter than that!


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I guess if that person has literally been watching anime for 25+ years...

I mean lets do the math.

A person who has been watching anime for 25 years and has 1,000 completed anime.

That gives a nice whole number of 40 anime per year.

Considering that OVAs, movies, shorts, and specials are also counted as that total....

It's not THAT much...


THIS! 1000 anime is not that much.. depend how many years you spend to acchive that...
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Ununpentium said:
Zaphkiel_El_Rem said:


Ain't it warrior and archer? Less newbie actually win their first game using int-type or AP user, so ain't it more technical to not use classes with higher versatility?

OT: Yes as long that 1000 were not reached within 1-2 years.
Nah, warrior is fine, since he's melee. It's all about dodging and attacking in a right moment, so archer and sorcerer are the most casual classes you could choose,since all you have to do is keep distance and shoot spells or arrows.
Well, I guess it's not about classes, but just not using long distance weapons. If you choose being a sorcerer, but you use a melee weapon almost always, then I'm fine with it :)


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Elitism is an attitude and a frame of mind, and should not be confused with the number of anime you've seen. You could have seen 50 anime and still be an elitist; on the other hand you could have seen a 1000 anime and still be a "casual".

The opposite of a casual watcher is a hardcore watcher and not an elitist. An anime elitist is someone who thoroughly believes that his taste is superior and that only what he deems good is actually good regardless of the number of anime he's seen.

So, a person who has seen 1000 anime over a relatively short period of time isn't a casual by any means.
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Ulquiorra said:
I usually spend somewhere in between 2 or 6 hours during week time, and 10+ during the weekend, and I've been doing this for more than 6 years.

Where do you find all that time? That sounds crazy to me, I'd never be able to do that.
 
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Ununpentium said:
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Nah, warrior is fine, since he's melee. It's all about dodging and attacking in a right moment, so archer and sorcerer are the most casual classes you could choose,since all you have to do is keep distance and shoot spells or arrows.
Well, I guess it's not about classes, but just not using long distance weapons. If you choose being a sorcerer, but you use a melee weapon almost always, then I'm fine with it :)

I guess you're right, I just accidentally labeled casuals and beginners the same.
 
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AkiKitazawa said:
Ulquiorra said:
I usually spend somewhere in between 2 or 6 hours during week time, and 10+ during the weekend, and I've been doing this for more than 6 years.

Where do you find all that time? That sounds crazy to me, I'd never be able to do that.


It's not that hard, I usually wake up at 10 in the morning, from 10 to 13 I can watch anime for three hours if I'm in the mood, and in the evening, better said at night at 22 to 1 another three hours.
Weekends are different, because I go to bed at 4 in the morning and I usually spend the entire day in front of my laptop watching anime until I get bored and play a video game to get be back in the mood.
 
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Depending on which casual.

If casual in sense of enjoying mainstream anime despite being mediocre in other aspect, then Im probably one of it.
Which opposite of it is critic / or people who love to analyse various part in anime.

If it casual in term of irregular / occasionally watching anime, then Im kinda 50/50.
I tend of to have long spread of watching anime OR playing games (currently anime)
I would say people that watching on weekly basic is more "hardcore" than me, although Im marathoner / binge watcher.

Probably best term would be "veteran" since I been watching anime since 17 years ago.
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1. Mindless Gaming + Anime streaming with dual monitor
2. Focused + Anime binged watching with speed up
3. Couch / Bed Anime watching with large TV
4. Relaxing in virtual cinema with VR.
 
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I also think time frame is an important factor to consider. Over a thousand in 3-4 years is a lot, but reaching the 1000 mark after watching for 10+ years isn't as extreme. I think what anime make up that 1000 is important too. If it's mostly movies, short anime, stand-alone OVAS, that can add up a lot over time, but if that 1000 consists of multiple 100+ episode series and all seasons of a multiple long running anime that makes it another thing.
 
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Days means more than completed count. If you watched 1000 30-second ONAs idk if that's super impressive. You could watch that in a day in theory

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Yes.
I mean anyone can call himself a casual - even if there are 1000+ completed titles.

If someone is watching Anime since his/her childhood for like 20+ years - of course there is a quite "big" list of completed shows, but still a casual watcher.
 
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What if 80% of the 1000 were movies? That leaves 200 for TV shows, OVA, ONA, Specials, etc... Honestly, it really depends on the person. Take me, for example. I've got over 700 completed in a little under 9 years and have spend the equivalent of roughly 156 days watching anime.

Now compare that to IntroverTurtle, whose been watching for apparently roughly the same time, yet has almost 2000 completions and well over 800 days worth of hours spent watching anime, helped by the fact that he apparently rewatches the entirety of One Piece, (i.e. all the episodes, movies, ovas, specials, etc.) every year. Oh and he hasn't dropped a single anime, while I've got over 60 drops. Now would you really call me a hardcore anime fan if you were to compare me to Introver?
 
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Now would you really call me a hardcore anime fan if you were to compare me to Introver?


I guess There are hardcores and there are complete maniacs. ;)
 
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Of course they can be. If they only watch anime casually .... The sentence should speak for itself. It makes sense that a casual watcher would accrue a bigger list over the years. Them being consistent in their watching doesn't stop them from watching at a casual rate.
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zombie_pegasus said:
I know there's a sort of idea that casuals are people who haven't seen much and watch anime casually, but I know there are at least some definitions that would allow someone who has seen a lot to still be a casual. I've completed over 800 anime but some will still call me a casual since I only watch an hour or two a day.

To you is the term "casual" more about taste (liking mostly one genre), amount seen (less than 200 maybe), how much watched regularly (hour a day possibly), or something else?


people call you casual for watching an hour or 2 per day?? wtf, how much anime do these people you know watch??
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Feb 8, 2017 6:58 AM
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I define a casual by this definition:

A) Does not understand their own tastes (preferences and enjoyment) in a way that they can communicate it to others.

B) Is not willing to actively learn anything about the medium.

C) Only relies on recommendations from others based on "It's cool/seasonal hype!"

D) Is unwilling to find anything wrong with a show.

If they fit three, or all four, of these definitions, I consider them to be casual.

Side-effect: In my experience, these people have rarely watched more then 50 titles.

Corollary: Including movies makes this a bit harder to judge. It is easier to tackle movies and short OVA's, but watching Akira, a Ghibli Film, and FLCL would easily be more casual then watching Gunbuster, Paprika, and Millennium Actress, wouldn't it?
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Days means more than completed count. If you watched 1000 30-second ONAs idk if that's super impressive. You could watch that in a day in theory


The day counter can be tricky, because watching shows at increased speeds really toys with that. One of my best friends on this site, @Xy, watches almost everything at 2x speed and it has inflated his watch time significantly.
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Somebody who has been watching for a very long time isn't a casual either (such a stable interest is pretty impressive on its own).


This can NOT be understated!
For example, I've not been a heavy hardcore fan of Godzilla and other Tokatsu films in general for at least 8 years now. But I still keep up to date on all the major films that release in the genre, can still relate common and uncommon knowledge about in-universe history, stats, and theories, and passively share an interest in it with others.
It wouldn't be hard to imagine this holding true for some anime fans also, particularly those who have stuck with the Big 3 since they began airing. I will always have massive respect to those who have stayed up-to-date with the Big 3 from start until conclusion (or present), and same with shows like Detective Connan and manga like Berserk, all which have ran for at least 15 years or longer.
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I'm nearing 3k completed, but I don't consider myself any kid of elitist or w.e. I'm fairly casual as far as my opinions IMO. I dislike labels in general.


Let's be honest here, you drop like 20 shows each season after 1 episode with a 1/10. That's not casual behaviour :P.

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Why is the community so obsessed with those stupid labels and dick-measuring contests
 
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Why is the community so obsessed with those stupid labels and dick-measuring contests


Cause mine is bigger than yours, duh.

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I'm nearing 3k completed, but I don't consider myself any kid of elitist or w.e. I'm fairly casual as far as my opinions IMO. I dislike labels in general.


Let's be honest here, you drop like 20 shows each season after 1 episode with a 1/10. That's not casual behaviour :P.


It would be elitist if I watched EVERYTHING from the season, but at least I'm willing to try the first ep of most shows. I'm casually just deciding to watch a few ;D

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Lollo36 said:
Why is the community so obsessed with those stupid labels and dick-measuring contests


It's a thing in most communities. That doesn't make it less pointless and dumb. It also doesn't make the anime community less cancerous.
 
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Why is the community so obsessed with those stupid labels and dick-measuring contests


It's a thing in most communities. That doesn't make it less pointless and dumb. It also doesn't make the anime community less cancerous.

compare to gaming and sports fans, i think anime does less cacerous...still bad things anyways...
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Kuma said:

compare to gaming and sports fans, i think anime does less cacerous...still bad things anyways...


I agree, that's probably true. I've yet to hear about any anime hooliganism haha
 
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quote @kamisama751

Being a causual or not has nothing to do with if you are critical or not. Casual only means you don't watch so much anime per time count compared to others. It is possible for a casual viewer having a very big list if (for example) he watched anime for twenty years. Being critical is also possible since anime is not the only consumable medium out there.
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Maybe i'm wrong but for me someone who has 1000 completed anime and a mean score over 8 is a casual.

But that's my point of view, you see it more clearly if you speak with the person.
 
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yes, in general i would say that "casuals" ignore the flaws of anime, especially shows they like. meanwhile " elitists" are willing to address the flaws of shows even if they like the show. i would argue that those hold true weather the viewer has seen 10 shows or 10,000 shows, if they are not critical of the media they consume then they are most certainly a "casual"
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No one can be a casual or an elitist. It's just people letting all that talk go to their heads and makes me smh sometimes tbh.
 
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I guess at that point they could fall into casual range and no one would say anything because they've seen sooo many titles ...
 
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Casual or elitist is all in your head, other people may call you an elitist even if you're a casual and vice versa regardless of what you call yourself. I consider myself a 'casual' I guess, I'm willing to talk about flaws in anime and tear them to shreds, even shows I like, but at the end of the day I still enjoy eating shit.
 
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gonna repeat my statement again

Being a causual or not has nothing to do with if you are critical or not. Casual only means you don't watch so much anime per time count compared to others. It is possible for a casual viewer having a very big list if (for example) he watched anime for twenty years. Being critical is also possible since anime is not the only consumable medium out there.
FGO 2 will just be a Shakugan no Shana 3.
Ritsuka will turn evil and become the supreme king.
He found out that due to his actions, our own timeline will be pruned in a few years so he decided to become evil to stop the timeline from being pruned and to save mashuu.
Mashuu will become the last master instead since she can no longer fight and doesn't agree with ritsuk's ideal.
Every other servant will be split into two factions, one that followed ritsuka while the other stays with mashuu.

 
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Yeah they can, I mean, almost 500 completed shows, and I'm still casual as fuck. Why would that change when I reach the 1000 mark?
 
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