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Jan 10, 2017 2:33 PM

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Im Not sure why it's rated so low , maybe anime fans don't like serious realistic anime story any more, and maybe because of that we don't get more of these anymore anyway...

I think this anime has a good story of morals, even a thief can have some, it's a good start of old police historical story , I don't get why people complaining about the animation it looks so good to me

We really need more seinen animes and little less shonon, I mean more realistic anime with mature story ,although I like both
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Jan 10, 2017 4:32 PM
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Farabeuf said:
Not that bad of first episode. Yeah the art and animation are not mind boggling but what do you expect. The budget for this must be minuscule. This is not a light novel adaptation or a hyped property. The direction could be better too, but that can be said about 9 out of 10 series this season.

Studio 3Hz with its first project(& original anime at that. Not an adaptation) done a better job at animation than this. So less hype, probably less budget, yet better animation. I am not trying to bash this anime for no apparent reason, but it's a fact that the animation in this anime is bad.

But those "9 out of 10 series" this season have average direction that could be better, not bad direction that could be better like this one.


Nayrael said:
It is an Anime made by a new studio that is animating something that would never be expected to make a decent amount of money. Of course the animation quality will not be high, what the heck do you people expect?

Average animation. Average directing. And . . . that's it really.
Jan 10, 2017 5:08 PM

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the opening song is fresh and fabulous
i finished the whole ep. i love the old period of Japan. idk what level of animation others expect, but the quality is defintely 100 times better than Quality Code
ButtSlapperJan 10, 2017 10:58 PM
Jan 10, 2017 8:42 PM

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It was ok. The historical vibes is getting to me.

Jan 10, 2017 10:08 PM

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As an original Onihei fan I'm disappointed especially the animation quality, it''s not like the unique style purposely made but just low quality I knew it's a low budget Anime though.
Jan 11, 2017 1:43 AM

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well at least it's brutal kinda?
Jan 11, 2017 4:48 AM

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I hope this is better than Joker Game
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Jan 11, 2017 5:26 AM

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Didn't like it that much. And I don't care about animation. It's mainly because for samurai era I prefer pure action like Sengoku Basara or stuff with politics (Sengoku era and the different clans fighting).

Such police stuff I'd prefer in a modern setting.

1st episode was okay. I thought it was going to be some brutal bloody/gore episodic crime story thing. And the 1st half of the episode was bad/boring.

But I liked how it turned out in the 2nd half. (Boss of the prisoner guy changed and I already suspected that. And prisoner guy now joining the police. Might get interesting to see prisoner guy + police chief guy and the son of the police chief guy together.)

Going to watch episode 2 and maybe 3 and then deciding. Since it seems 1 cour only I might watch it completely.
Jan 11, 2017 8:49 AM

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This was excellent! Loved the voice actors in this so much! Also, to the people complaining about the animation, lol, this looks fine, it just has a different art style. There were 1-2 ugly cgi crowd shots but that's about it. The action scenes were seriously awesome.
alpha_shadowJan 11, 2017 8:57 AM
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Jan 11, 2017 8:50 AM
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Alhakam said:
I don't get why people complaining about the animation it looks so good to me

Agree, especially the sword fight scene


Jan 11, 2017 9:20 AM

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Well, it isn't that bad except some cringy CGI xD. I'll keep watching it :P
Jan 11, 2017 11:24 AM

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gosh, the backgrounds are nice, the opening is among the best this season, the ost outstanding (that far eastern-jazz-orchestral combination gets has so much feeling and im not even a fan of jazz music), the plot gets decent, or a bit more than that, but the character animation really ruin the story.
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Jan 11, 2017 12:50 PM

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People bitching about the animation. It's not the best, but neither did I think it was that bad to the point it's unbearable. Smh.

I thought the first episode was pretty interesting. I'm curious to see what this show will bring.


Jan 11, 2017 12:56 PM
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Farabeuf said:
Not that bad of first episode. Yeah the art and animation are not mind boggling but what do you expect. The budget for this must be minuscule. This is not a light novel adaptation or a hyped property. The direction could be better too, but that can be said about 9 out of 10 series this season.

Studio 3Hz with its first project(& original anime at that. Not an adaptation) done a better job at animation than this. So less hype, probably less budget, yet better animation. I am not trying to bash this anime for no apparent reason, but it's a fact that the animation in this anime is bad.

But those "9 out of 10 series" this season have average direction that could be better, not bad direction that could be better like this one.


Nayrael said:
It is an Anime made by a new studio that is animating something that would never be expected to make a decent amount of money. Of course the animation quality will not be high, what the heck do you people expect?

Average animation. Average directing. And . . . that's it really.


I honestly don't think it's as bad as you make it out to be. But I'm not gonna try to convince. Different tastes and all that.
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Jan 11, 2017 6:23 PM
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Agree, especially the sword fight scene



That's not good animation, that's the director trying to make the scene looks more dynamic by moving the camera around. Credit to the director since he's smart enough to compensate bad/limited animation with his direction in the fight scene.


Farabeuf said:
I honestly don't think it's as bad as you make it out to be. But I'm not gonna try to convince. Different tastes and all that.

Out of all the things in anime, I think animation is one aspect that can be assessed objectively. Let's agree that this anime has below average animation, but despite that you still like the animation.
Jan 11, 2017 6:56 PM

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Great episode. That gore too OMG.
Jan 11, 2017 7:04 PM

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hmmm old edo setting..... with samurais...I hope it does not get too political
Jan 11, 2017 9:37 PM

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There is potential, so I'm willing to give this a chance for a couple of more episodes.

The episode was decent... The instrumental OP was cool.

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Jan 12, 2017 12:29 AM

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Finally a show that isn't afraid of showing some blood and violence.
Jan 12, 2017 7:17 AM

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TheServant said:

That's not good animation, that's the director trying to make the scene looks more dynamic by moving the camera around. Credit to the director since he's smart enough to compensate bad/limited animation with his direction in the fight scene.


Farabeuf said:
I honestly don't think it's as bad as you make it out to be. But I'm not gonna try to convince. Different tastes and all that.

Out of all the things in anime, I think animation is one aspect that can be assessed objectively. Let's agree that this anime has below average animation, but despite that you still like the animation.

So you saying it's bad directed. But you give credit to the director for compensating the animation with different camera work making it look better overall. Isn't that what a good director would do? Let's agree fuck logic then...
SnaitaJan 12, 2017 7:21 AM
Jan 12, 2017 8:41 AM

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everything is nice..its just that the eyelashes of the male's breaks my focus....was it actually a fashion in those days?
hope it seems normal to me in the future



Jan 12, 2017 6:10 PM

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This was great. Much better than ACCA.
Jan 12, 2017 8:25 PM
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It's a shame not many people are talking about this one. It's pretty great if you ask me.

The animation isn't amazing, but the director obviously knows how to work with a limited budget because it still looks great. I'm in love with the art style and color palette.
Jan 12, 2017 10:00 PM
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Snaita said:
So you saying it's bad directed. But you give credit to the director for compensating the animation with different camera work making it look better overall. Isn't that what a good director would do? Let's agree fuck logic then...

Yes, the rest of the show was badly directed. Sorry that I did not say that action scene was an exception.
Jan 14, 2017 12:41 AM

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Ok,To be honest,I was disappointed.There's so much complain I have about this series and they are more of an eyesore to me.I gotta list some of them:
1.The story rather moved on too quickly.one minute guy was getting tortured the f up brutally.The next minute he is having philosophic nostalgic conversation with the very person who tortured him.Like...what the heck happened?
2.The animation.Definitely the animation.The poster and story everything gives a huge aura of pre-revolution era when samurai and martial arts were still a normal thing.So I was expecting the animation to express the vibe of that era.And don't get me wrong,it did.However,they went waaaaaay overboard with the animation.They made it too smooth to the point of making the scenes look more like a HDTV flat screen tv commercial rather than a scene from action-immersed anime.They could've used animation style of Studio Pierrot or something and it would've been perfect.Smooth flowingness really ruins the expression of an anime that's supposed to take place in old Japan.
3.The character drawing seems pretty bad too.For example,that little adopted girl's face is that of a 18-19 year old girl.

Well despite,I kinda like the story.Ofc,it's a well known phrase that don't judge a book by it's cover.The story so far seems good.I know i should just overlook the visual styles.But it's like...if you see a disgusting-looking food,no matter how everyone claims it to be the tastiest food,you'd still wouldn't want to try it.I'm facing the same situation with Onihei.But,I will keep on watching.
Jan 14, 2017 6:56 AM

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While not excelled in almost any field, on the whole, I found it more than satisfactory as a start. The story is nothing original, in fact, you can find many examples in many other anime, but the whole thing was packaged well. The character designs, I like it even though at first, I had my qualms. Catchy and apt to various situations, the soundtrack. Animations, I seemed very fluid, without any vacillation, not of the same opinion, the CG.
Jan 15, 2017 4:25 AM

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Interesting start, slightly hampered by the flat direction of the anime (drama-like I would say, but is the drama also that flat? no idea) and shortness of the story.


While everyone is annoyed/worried by the technical aspects, I find something else more worrying:
If what we saw are is just a few pages of a story, great. If it adapted a full story into 20min., bad omen. I have no problem with an episodic novel series being adapted into an episodic TV anime, but if the novels tell a case each and they cram one case into one episode during the all series... we'll get another Joker Game anime where not each affair seems like a synopsis.
Does anyone know the structure of the novels or live action shows?

Based on wikipedia, using redemptive thiefs is some habit of "Oni-hei".

edit: the animation (or lack of) didn't surprised me, nor did I find it jarring.

5/5 I would love a movie featuring this story (even a medium-length one)


For those who wonder about the music or talk about "film noir":
The author loved cinema.French films of the 1950s which were called "film noir" was his favorite. It could be said that Ikegami was influenced by the drama framework of his favorite director, Julien Duvivier the master craftsman of finesse, and those main characters in his novels could be related to the actor Jean Gabin portrayed as a cool guy in French films of the 1950s


@Jacksnapp The director and chara-designer directed and created the charadesigns for one of the stories in this anthology.
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Jan 15, 2017 9:03 AM

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@Jacksnapp The director and chara-designer directed and created the charadesigns for one of the stories in this anthology.


I know! I had looked it up on ANN afterwards (MAL's staff page doesn't provide much at this point) But thank you very much!
Jan 15, 2017 10:15 AM
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As someone who had watched over 20 anime per season (30+ in the last season), I think Onihei is above average, also since I'm a little bit prefer traditional/classic style I'd say that I love this. I love to see more yummy muscle on male's body but I know that this is what Japanese body really is, thin and fragile, so it get realistic points from me, but not aesthetic points.

My only wish is that I don't want any unnecessary violence happen to my favorite character (at this starting moment, I'd say any handsome one), if someone has to die I prefer them to be ugly and fat character like the Tanbei of Chigashira in this episode. But since whoever the screenwriter try to kill (to raise the dramatic atmosphere) there'll always be people who said it's generic plot, so just kill only the ugly one please.
Jan 16, 2017 12:06 AM

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Good episode. Felt refreshing. Will watch.
Jan 17, 2017 5:08 AM

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Good start. Always pleased to see a mature period piece.
The characters are interesting, though the short family scene at the end felt contrived.
Overall feel of the show is cool, but damn, why the jazz music?? Not a fan of that even though it does fit the mood quite well.
Jan 17, 2017 1:49 PM

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I really liked it. The animation is fine for me. The music is super jazzy and nice.

Didn't realize it was Hosoyan until much later. A surprise.
Oh, and NamiDai I picked up his voice right away, he sounds nice here.

Looking forward to more.
Jan 19, 2017 11:17 PM

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This was a good start of a very symbolic historical show.
From a thief who sticks to his code and being promoted to a spy was nice.
Cool katana swordplay fights also!
5/5.
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Jan 21, 2017 12:57 AM

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Interesting beginning. I necessarily like a new anime about Samurai. An the animation of the fight was good, not the best in the world but good.
The MC looks like an interesting character, I'm looking forward to watch more episode.
Jan 27, 2017 3:15 PM

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Underwhelming.

The animation was sharp, but seemed cheap.
Jan 31, 2017 5:20 PM

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Finally something good that isn't a sequel. Looking forward to more.

I don't know, sis, it didn't astonish me with nor violence nor other things, but it dont look bad either, I try next episode.
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Feb 11, 2017 7:02 AM

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Oh my, what a great episode! Bad animation? It's clearly not the best, but have you even seen Yuri on Ice?
Mar 4, 2017 6:07 AM

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I thought the animation was amazing. Naruto animation is pretty bad and that is one of the most famous animes anyway.

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May 29, 2017 2:08 AM

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Excellent first episode. The severe tone appeals to me and the characters seem interesting.
Excited to see the rest!
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Jun 12, 2017 10:30 PM

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Oh now this one is cool!
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Sep 3, 2017 10:45 AM

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It looks like an interesting show. I'm delighted with its beautiful scenery
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Apr 10, 2018 10:04 AM

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How did I miss this show last year? The animation for this fight scenes looks amazing. Besides the cringe worthy CG backround characters I'm digging the style of this show.
Oct 19, 2019 4:39 AM

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That chief really has turned into some scum, those three rules sounded pretty cool for a 'respectable' thief

Not really sure about what this series is about, but I think it's some sort of case by case solving by samurai police

Feb 19, 2020 8:45 AM

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I just recently stumbled across this one. It is available to see for free on Amazon Prime. This is the first I have heard about this show. It's very good. In the same style as Samuri Champloo. It's a hidden gem I highly recommend.
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Apr 24, 2021 8:38 PM
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The grey morality in this is on the level of House of Five Leaves. I didn't notice the animation/direction until the fight scene because I was focused on the plot. Plus, the art itself was very well rendered, accompanied by some nice jazz. If this series is rated low because of the animation, then the story is probably great.

Sure, there was gore and I'm normally adverse to that, but here there was an appropriate amount and it wasn't used in a way that someone like Urobuchi would. Speaking of which, let me take this chance to take another shot at Urobuchi: this is how you do a discussion on ideals.
Feb 14, 2023 2:29 PM
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decent first episode. the criminal/potential spy guy is the mc though
Nov 8, 2023 12:56 PM
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There's no need to change the dude into a caucasian with wavy hair.
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