| There is, of course, sensory deprivation as a form of isolation which in small quantities can be interesting, but what about degrees less? No sun, blocked window, never leaving your residence? Not much usage of vocal cords? Just access to the net? Would one watch anime all day or play video games? How about an eternity of reading? |
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| Golden cage. It might be appealing when life is rough for you or when you have a lot of stuff to do. But in the end you can't possibly live like that for too long with a normal state of mind. As much as I long for these moments of isolation sometimes, when they acutally arrive I can't spend my time like that for too long. Watching anime/playing games all day doesn't sound too appealing to me. Maybe for a day or two but not longer. |
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| I could live with never leaving my residence. It's what I've tried to do for 3 years since graduating high school, only leaving when one of my parents makes me. |
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| I've pretty much lived like that for more than 2 years when my chronic disease was at its worst. Handled it pretty okay. Though I did get limited contact with my parents 3 or so times a day. I still live in a similar life. In bed on laptop or phone for hours on end. I have friends but I rarely meet them outside anymore. I go to college and come home, that's it. So far I don't really see any problems with my social skills degrading. I can talk to people just fine with confidence. |
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| That's exactly how I lived for the past 3 years. i don't see any problem of that. i recently started working as a software engineer but my body and mind are only getting worse, although the career is, if anything, prosperous. My dream is to be able to live my hikikomori life again and forever. |
| The world is pretty shit, and it takes me so much effort to socialise. I can withstand isolation as long as I have things to do. So videogames, books, art projects etc. all do it for me. Maybe not sensory isolation though. Without sound I think I would go crazy. |
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Seyfert said: There is, of course, sensory deprivation as a form of isolation which in small quantities can be interesting, but what about degrees less? No sun, blocked window, never leaving your residence? Not much usage of vocal cords? Just access to the net? Would one watch anime all day or play video games? How about an eternity of reading? Without some level of communication, I'd lose it after a while. I can tolerate extremely low levels of face to face contact, as long as i have other means to communicate with people. I can sit in a 10x10 room for months as long as my basic needs are provided for, including hygene and whatnot. The issue is, I'd have to have some kind of stimulation, whether that be reading, anime, movies, games, porn, etc. If i didn't, I'd probably sleep constantly. Oh, I have bad Tinnitus, so sound depravation would probably drive my crazy at this point. I have a hard time sleeping during power outages because it usually gets quieter than normal. I need some kind of white noise in the background. |
| Give me the games I'll request and internet to watch anime ofc and I can I take a couple months of isolation. |
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| I already live like that. It's lonely but whatever not like it matters since I dont want to deal with anyone where I live. |
| Well it ain't that bad living inside your head. |
| An eternity of reading sounds good to me tbh |
| Having developed extroverted tendencies. I wouldn't be able to live that way for long. |
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| I get bored from being alone 1 single day, I can't. |
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| I live with my parents now, but I've lived alone before, and barely had interaction with people... to be honest it made me extremely depressed and my grades fell. I think just in regular life though I can isolate myself from interactions. |
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| It's weird since I feel really uncomfortable around people but also can't stand being alone. I've been alone for a long time minus work/class, which both make me uncomfortable. So if you just mean not leaving the apartment, then I guess things would maybe improve a bit for me. If you meant also not talking to people online, I'm not sure I could do that. |
| not much, even with family and gf I get lonely, and also I feel awkward eating lunch alone at work. I am grateful for my family and gf, though. I would be mentally worse without them. |
Seyfert said: No sun, blocked window, never leaving your residence? Not much usage of vocal cords? Just access to the net? ur mean dis circumstancess is no normal??? except am sunbathe tho |
| I spent 4 days in an empty apartment alone not talking to anyone the whole time and that was all it took to make me go a little crazy and start talking to myself. |
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| I can stay in my room alone for periods of time, but even then, I'm still communicating with others online or through some other means. I'm not sure if I can take anything more than a couple days without any social interaction, it's too strange. |
| I'm a pretty big introvert so I think I'd manage for a little while, probably more than most people I know. Still, I'd need some human interaction eventually. |
| Better than most people but I would still probably start to crack sooner or later |
| If you talk with your family then you are not isolated at all lol Anyway... Due to how I was raised (totally alone with books all the time) I never "feel" alone, but at the end of the end I'm human, and humans are social creatures, so my brain takes the isolation "kind of" bad: I start thinking out loud without even realizing it. If it's been more than a week of total isolation, I start to have auditory allucinations due to the high amounts of caffeine and the ausence of stimuli If I'm VERY focused in something I usually will not get out of my department until I finished it, not even to take out the trash. Yesterday I went out after 4 days of reclusion xD |
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| What level of social interaction can you withstand? |
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| In terms of being stuck in my house for long periods of time with all that in mind, I would not last a week. I love being alone, but I don't like the idea of isolation you described. I prefer going out...given I prefer to stay to myself when I do. |
| Definitely fine with me. No sun and blocked windows most of them time anyway. Wait, blocked. I mean the slats are down all the time and not going out is fine with me, too. Though I can be sociable, I swear, believe I can live without seeing people in real life. I've already done that so many times, lasted for years. |
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ozzievanfluff said: did you have to give birth and say your last words to your dying grandmaThat's an ideal day for me friend. I especially hate the sun. Last summer I had 2-3 months free and I only went out twice because I absolutely HAD to |
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| OP basically described my life when there's no business forcing me to go outside. |
| That is my life most of the time. Doing it for too long kills me inside. |
| Eh... i could be pretty productive that way. If i was left alone without obligations, for a test of isolation where i could just watch anime read manga/vn's/ln's and work on my science without having to worry about bullshit like where i'm going to live next month.... I'm not necessarily a hikikomori, there's tons of stuff i'd love to go out and do and explore, but having no one to do it with that lives near me, and aforementioned problems... I also have a lot of stuff to work on... If only i have a closet with Narnia time in it, so i can spend weeks (or years) worth of entertainment time, and only have to work a day here and there. I could get so much done! Sensory isolation is disturbing shit, even to the toughest of people. I'm used to imagining and being prepared for abnormal or fantastic situations, but sleep paralysis is messed up. Just that overpowering sense of everything in the universe is wrong, it's hard to take. I could withstand prolonged exposure to that if i really had reason to. Though what bothered me most about it was that normally i have quite a talent for being able to wake myself from undesirable dreams or various unconscious states, but it was quite difficult to force myself awake during paralysis. Society doesn't have a spot for people who don't really need or want much, everyone is expected to want material garbage and to want independence and be outgoing enough to get it all, when there are some people who are just not. Personally, i need more time to solve the problem of both unified field, and utopia, and not waste it on stupid mundane shit like working 9-5 just to have a place to sleep, some food and internet. |
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| I can typically spend two or three day alone without issue as long as there is something I can set my mind to, be it anime, games, manga, making/watching youtube videos, reading, etc. If I loose that though, I would likely only last a day or a day-and-a-half. That said, sunlight of some sort is a necessity. Even with social interaction, a lack of sunlight quickly depresses me. |
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cleokei said: The world is pretty shit, and it takes me so much effort to socialise. I can withstand isolation as long as I have things to do. So videogames, books, art projects etc. all do it for me. Maybe not sensory isolation though. Without sound I think I would go crazy. basically this, but I'd probably die of loneliness, so, three days is enough for me. ecks dee |
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ozzievanfluff said: That's an ideal day for me friend. I especially hate the sun. Last summer I had 2-3 months free and I only went out twice because I absolutely HAD to I hate the sun too hahah How did you get food? |
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gemanepa said: ozzievanfluff said: That's an ideal day for me friend. I especially hate the sun. Last summer I had 2-3 months free and I only went out twice because I absolutely HAD to I hate the sun too hahah How did you get food? It's like you guys don't even appreciate vitamin D. |
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I do I do! I eat lots of eggs yogurt and fish 8D |
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| im mostly at home but i still have social interactions with family members on a daily basis so nah i think my mental health will degrade more if im really isolated |
Seyfert said: There is, of course, sensory deprivation as a form of isolation which in small quantities can be interesting, but what about degrees less? No sun, blocked window, never leaving your residence? Not much usage of vocal cords? Just access to the net? Would one watch anime all day or play video games? How about an eternity of reading? Before I got a job I would pretty much sit on my computer and be on it working on running game servers or playing games. I would sleep around 5 hours a day and just be on the computer the rest short breaks for food or bathroom. I did that for around 9 years until I got a job and became somewhat responsible o.O Now I work most of the week so the games takes a back seat most of the time as well as anime aside from a show or two here and there before work. I only really hang out with online friends though. I talk to people at work but for the most part I wouldn't consider doing anything with most of them outside of work. Mostly because our likes are so different and most people go to work to make money not have a social gathering or be best buddies. |
| I'm kind of a loner, so I'd be good as long as I had limited contact with atleast one person a day , but I don't need much more than that for the most part,although I do sometimes get lonely, but rarely, as most of the time I just like to be left alone and not have to deal with other people's crap. |
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| Give me a only a computer for a whole day without people, and maybe I can deal with it. I will have something to do. Sensory deprivation is horrifying though. I wouldn't be able to just do nothing. I'd go crazy and extremely depressed. |
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Faederwulf said: Most of my time for at least half a decade has been spent in isolation. It can help you to grow wiser than you ordinarily would, but comes with difficulties also (such as struggling to find the motivation to return to "society"). Most men should fare fine spending long periods of time in isolation, but spending time around nature is important for retaining sanity - the life of a hermit is preferable to one of a shut-in. I actually found myself wising up when I was around people. My philosophical 'awakening' was during the military where I couldn't isolate myself. That's because there my ideas were constantly challenged. |
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Faederwulf said: TheBrainintheJar said: I actually found myself wising up when I was around people. My philosophical 'awakening' was during the military where I couldn't isolate myself. That's because there my ideas were constantly challenged. For me it was isolation, because I was completely stripped of all dogma, and had no pressure to think a certain way. Of course, becoming wiser never stops. To summarise some words from Socrates: "I am wise, for I know that I know nothing". I disagree. I think a mind that doesn't work slowly decays. Don't use your mind, don't flex those cells and it'll decay. It's what happened to me in school. I stopped reading. But you do have a point. Being with people encourages conformity, not as a bad thing but as a natural result of being a social organism. Disconnected from society, we have an easier time developing odd ideas since there is no pressure to fit in. I wonder where is the balance. |
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