Magical Girl Raising Project (light novel)
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Flevalt said: The only similarity between this and danganronpa is that there is an elimination match going on. As a whole, this story is very similar to madoka. Magical girls going around to save people, then the whole atmosphere changing to a darker tone, an evil little midget mascot acting like the magical girl's assistant that then turns out to be an indifferent magical girl slaughtering monster. Aside from time travelling powers missing in this story, I wonder which aspect of madoka magica is not present in this story according to you. But above all of these minor reasons, the fact that there are even dark magical girl stories popping up now to begin with can be lead back to Madoka. So, clearly, it's not only the show it's taken inspiration from, but Madoka is also the reason this and many other dark magical girl mangas even exist. "Magical girls going around to save people" No, in MadoMagi, they fight witches. In MahoIku, they help people (not regarding good or bad people) to earn candies, then they fight among themselves. "an evil little midget mascot acting like the magical girl's assistant that then turns out to be an indifferent magical girl slaughtering monster." Fav sounds way more devilish than Kyuubey. Also Kyuubey grant you a wish before you become a magical girl. Kyuubey do this "cruel" stuff to save the universe, Fav do it for his own pleasure. Kyuubey looks cute next to Fav. "Aside from time travelling powers missing in this story, I wonder which aspect of madoka magica is not present in this story according to you. " The allegory of naive young girls discovering the adults world? The choice to become or not a magical girl even knowing the bad aspect of it? The Deus Ex Machina enabling to save the magical girls from suffering in the end? etc "the fact that there are even dark magical girl stories popping up now to begin with can be lead back to Madoka" How about Princess Tutu? Possibly Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha too. |
GanbatteBakemono said: Ranxomare said: All the truth revelated!!!! Riple kill Swin Swin!!! Sad final to my opinion, because all the way, 16 Mahou in the begining and ends stay alive only 2, Snow white and Riple ; _ ; 7/10. 16 in this incident and who knows how long Clamberry had been conducting these mahou shoujo trials as Master and killing everyone? correct, you are right!!! And you give other possibility to do a new series prequel or Ova prequel, what was the first mahou master? ;) Also, this event elapse in Japan, but in the rest of the world? Here they have an anime franchise kekeke |
GenesisAria said: Zefyris said: Read post #101 on top of page 3, that's not possible. she cannot become a "master" that will create new magical girl just like that, and that wouldn't chaneg the fact that even if she could, she would just become one among many rather than the only one, so no authority on the others doing it. According to what, the LN? FA-B never said anything else that soem peoples say in this thread(lots of anime watcher seems to be wrongly interpreting what FA-B said about his "master") and yes, it's confirmed in the LN at the end of the first volume. |
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Flevalt said: Djidji said: No, in MadoMagi, they fight witches. In MahoIku, they help people (not regarding good or bad people) to earn candies, then they fight among themselves. Same thing for someone that does not usually watch mahou shoujo anime. They fight evil monsters to save people by combating in Madoka. And here they save people by helping out in whatever problem may occur, as trivial as those problems may seem. The point stands, they're doing what magical girls are typically doing. Which is to save others with their magical girl powers after transforming. So, same thing. No, just no. First, fighting to save lives and saving lives ain't the same. Fighting witches and fighting other Magical Girls ain't the same as well. Flevalt said: Djidji said: "an evil little midget mascot acting like the magical girl's assistant that then turns out to be an indifferent magical girl slaughtering monster." Fav sounds way more devilish than Kyuubey. Also Kyuubey grant you a wish before you become a magical girl. Kyuubey do this "cruel" stuff to save the universe, Fav do it for his own pleasure. Kyuubey looks cute next to Fav. You haven't been paying close attention to either story then. The evil midget cat from Madoka didn't want to "save the universe", it wanted to use the magical girls as a power source for his own race's benefit. He didn't have any altruistic purpose in mind like saving anyone. He was an indifferent little piece of shit through and through. And it's the same here. The mascot in this case did not even need the mahou shoujos as a power source or anything of the sort, but just played around with their lives for fun with no regard for emotions or similar. Yet it's not explained why "exams" even need to be held, so there might still be greater purpose to it that's just not shown at this point. Kyuubey said: Please don't misunderstand. We don't do this out of ill will toward the human race. Everything we've done is for the sake of prolonging the life of the universe. If he looks indifferent, it's because he expained himself Incubators don't have emotions. That's why he doesn't understand humans' morals. He do it cause there is no other way to solve the problem. In MahoIku, Fav is just a sadic. No, MahoIku doesn't explore that way just having magical girls who aren't teenagers. By no way it's an allegory of teenagers (magical girls) becoming adults (witches). Flevalt said: In general terms, this is simply called the concept of self-sacrifice. Which this anime had a lot of. What I want to point out is that Madoka had the choice to become a magical girl knowing the pros and cons. Who incarn a concept of self-sacrifism here? Flevalt said: You mean bullshit plot for convenience's sake? This anime had none of that? Is that what you want to tell me? No, I pointed out that this show was only pure suffering for the magical girls and nothing was done to lessen what happen about them. They could have use a power to revive the magical girls, which I would have highly disagree with, but it didn't. Flevalt said: Very much possible as the origins of the genre, if that's what you mean. I'm not a fan of mahou shoujo series', haven't watched either of those. But highly unlikely to be a direct inspiration for this work, considering the immense similarities between this and madoka and the fact that the latter is a recent, popular work that's quite controversial. If the anime you mentioned were to be drawn from as inspirational works, I'd imagine this would not have been released 15 years later. What is similar between the two is the setting, a magical girl with a (not so) cute mascot where magical girls can die, and that's it. The story got way more inspiration from Battle Royale's stories. |
Djidji said: They were made to, intentionally. It's more like Mai-HiME in that regard, than Madoka Magica.No, in MadoMagi, they fight witches. In MahoIku, they help people (not regarding good or bad people) to earn candies, then they fight among themselves. @Djidji @Flevalt In MahoIku, more than half the characters (including our proclaimed mc) are clinical psychopaths. If anything, that right there is the most original thing to this genre. That and the almost disturbingly realistic demise of each character. Desensitized people won't get the impact of this particular anime, because it plays on the stark reality of extinguishing a life, more than most other violent series; largely in the way of how quickly and undramatically it can happen. It got viewers to both be shocked by death, and even egg it on regardless, despite how insane that notion is. If anything, it's dangerous how contagious the idea of begetting death is (in the real world). . . . Arguing about a show's originality or concept origination is pointless, it will always be ambiguous. For all you know, the origination of concept could have started with the author from something in a completely different genre. Fer example, maybe the inspiration was the original Battle Royale, and they wanted to do it mahou shoujo style, regardless of existing dark magical girl stuff. |
GenesisAriaDec 19, 2016 8:17 AM
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GenesisAria said: Djidji said: They were made to, intentionally. It's more like Mai-HiME in that regard, than Madoka Magica.No, in MadoMagi, they fight witches. In MahoIku, they help people (not regarding good or bad people) to earn candies, then they fight among themselves. @Djidji @Flevalt In MahoIku, more than half the characters (including our proclaimed mc) are clinical psychopaths. If anything, that right there is the most original thing to this genre. That and the almost disturbingly realistic demise of each character. . . . Arguing about a show's originality or concept origination is pointless, it will always be ambiguous. For all you know, the origination of concept could have started with the author from something in a completely different genre. Fer example, maybe the inspiration was the original Battle Royale, and they wanted to do it mahou shoujo style, regardless of existing dark magical girl stuff. Oh, I didn't watch Mai-Hime. (Worth watching? :o) Yeah, the castings of caracters differ a lot from a magical girl, and is rather close to a Battle Royale theme. About the inspiration stuff, it's not important as long as it's not simply a slightly modified same story, and so isn't MahoIku. :/ |
| @Djidji Yeah, Mai-HiME is an old favourite of mine. It's got some awkward plot here and there, and is pretty different... Though holy crap, when you follow the verse (and proceed onto Mai-OtoHiME (Otome)), there is so much implied background lore that you have to try and figure out, that it's not funny. Right down to "are we really even on earth, if not, what happened before? where did the HiME star come from, and who made it?" There's piles of allusion in the Mai-HiME verse. There have been plenty of Battle Royale anime, but MahoIku nailed the stark reality of death and psychopathy better than any i'vever seen. Edit: PS: another indication of Snow White's mild psychopathy is the fact that she never vomited or anything to sights of gore or people around her dying, she only trembled in insecurity and fear for her life. |
GenesisAriaDec 19, 2016 8:43 AM
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| Now that was an "incredible" ending for me , interesting in a way also. but also one of my first magic girl mind fuck serie ive seen xD but i liked it Overall i do give it a 7,4/10 tho cause of reasons |
| cause MAL is doing there job for once. |
| And so the final episode is among us To think that becoming a magical girl will be to enter a death game where if you don't help enough people you will die both in game and in real life. Man that's so depressing and hard its no wonder that Snow white is depressed Snow white really liked being a traditional magical girl didn't she the fact that it become a death game really hit her hard Especially with Ripples declaration that she doesn't care about being a magical girl as long as she can kill swim swim Lol Ripple was wearing Top speeds cloak eh Understandable since they were pretty close though Ripple would never admit it The battle between Ripple and Swim was bound to happen given that Swim killed Top speed. Having a dam on a stormy night as the scene of the battle feels appropriate What is Fav's main goal though i wonder Hmm so Fav was sent by the world of magic to choose magical girls eh Lol Swim has a few screws loose thats a understatement Man Fav is one hell of a schemer though manipulating the girls like that The fight between Swim and Ripple though is pretty good though Both are combat oriented and both have reasons to take the other out Though i hope that Ripple wins here though Way to go to use different weapons and tactics against Swim Ripple the last thing you expect a ninja to do is to use a firearm So this death game is because Fav wanted the contest to be more exciting eh man what a sick mind The fact that Snow white who is neither strong in combat or magic is the one of the survivors is not that surprising since she can just avoid the obvious enemies and threats or by staying near strong allies. Hmm using an area thats both dark and using sound against swim eh Ripple took that advice to heart after all Man the fights getting more brutal with the loss of an eye and leg so the girl that Nemurin found that day was actually swim swim eh and now i guess the game is finally over glad that Ripple was able to get revenge for Top speed but man losing an eye and a leg for it that was brutal To think that Swim was just a little girl though one that was also pretty ruthless as well Snow white wouldn't have been able to do anything had she been there anyway and though cruel perhaps but im glad that snow white still kept to being a traditional magical girl that only saved people instead of becoming a killer Lol well if a kick and stomp doesn't work would a large bounder work better i wonder Well surprisingly Ripple is very much alive lol and doesn't tolerate any badmouthing of top speed unlucky for you Fav Lol Fav begging more mercy and trying to explain his reasons not confident anymore are you lol Ripple imploding was quite funny and long awaited fate So snow white and Ripple are now working together then eh well now with fav gone they won't die anyway hmm a brief training session with ripple to excise any doubts left eh Thats something Ripple is good at lol But its nice to see that Snow white is learning how to fight though and how to become a better magical girl though A good ending at least Fav is dead and with it the death game is finally over Snow white and Ripple can finally go back to saving peoples lives |
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| I remember a smash Bros. video on Youtube where Luigi won without doing anything, basically Snow White did exactly the same. Not sure about Snow White leaving home but I'm glad that Ripple and Snow White became friends afterwards and thank god she destroyed the master device and got rid of that annoying critter. And that is the end of a rather interesting and dark series. |
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zeoh said: Tama is a normal idiot with perfectly functional ethics, Snow White is not.Tama vomited after she exploded Cranberry in the novels and so on. |
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| Overall, I enjoyed the series but all my favorite characters died... Hopefully if there's a season 2, the whole cast doesn't get wiped out. |
| Really dug Snow White's character change in the end. Also so glad both Swim Swim and Fav were slaughtered like the monsters they were >:3 One eyed Ripple is pretty hot. |
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zeoh said: Jotakak said: Overall, I enjoyed the series but all my favorite characters died... Hopefully if there's a season 2, the whole cast doesn't get wiped out. The novels exist! A lot of nice characters in the cast but like this arc, there's a sort of SAO deathgame going on. It becomes less focused on killing in the book after and more about alliances. Though IMO it's better to not get too attached to the cast since no one is safe. It's hard not to become attached when there's LGBT characters! That was my weakness! Good to hear though. I heard people compared this arc to THG and how it expands afterward. I'll pick up the novel when it comes to the United States in February. |
zeoh said: Jotakak said: It's hard not to become attached when there's LGBT characters! That was my weakness! Good to hear though. I heard people compared this arc to THG and how it expands afterward. I'll pick up the novel when it comes to the United States in February. Sadly in summer 2017 it will be just the first volume released which is the same content as what the anime covered. Yeah, that's fine by me. I have enough stuff to hold me over. |
| to the people who are saying "it's just a death game filled with lolis", well guess what that's the whole point! and now Fav is gone this mindless death match is also gone. what, are you mad the show is over since Fav is gone? you should be rejoicing if anything. This is what happens when a person of authority (Fav) becomes this mind-twisted son of a fuck. You can argue that the grievances the girls went through is a reflection of the grievances the soldiers of WWII went through. The result of the twisted mind of their authorities that should be executed. But of course, history will tell you that they "fought for your sake" or whatever bullshit history books will tell you when in fact, it's just that these soldiers cannot disobey their superiors or suffer insubordination. There are no heroes of WWII, only vanity. |
| >I had no brain when I was 12 >Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12 >I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12 >Therefore children cannot consent This is what science has done to humanity. |
| That was an overall underwhelming finale. In the end Snow White wound up not ever doing anything and won by default. We never got to see anything about the magical world and Fav didn't really get any comeuppance. And was it just me or was there an animation error where Ripple had her arm back on when she went to inspect Swim Swim's body but then lost it again when Snow White showed up? |
| That was underwhelming. Was it seriously the last episode? Because it didn't feel like it, somehow. I'm thinking 7.5/10. Now I just have to decide if it will be a 7 or a 8. |
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| 7/10 for me. It was an enjoyable show, I feel it was lacking something though, but I'm not too sure what. Maybe it was just because the deaths seemed too sudden, or that Swim Swim killed off all the characters I was starting to like idk. The ending was satisfying enough for me |
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Ripple did something other mahou shoujos should have done forever ago I stand by what I said. 8/10 Good show. Can't get over Top Speed and Alice though.. |
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| Ah yes, the infodump. Meh show. |
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| A few differences from the light novel, but the ending was ultimately forgettable just like the novel as well. Extremely anticlimactic when you think about it. Overall, I enjoyed the anime for the most part. |
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| Enjoyable anime. I would love a season 2 where we learn more of the world of magic. Debating reading the novels, how many are there and does it go far beyond this point? 8/10 Madoka Magika 2 was an enjoyable watch :). |
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| It took so long to Snow White to take action! Ripple was by far the best girl, I was sad thinking that she was dead, but I am glad the rabbit feet saved her! Fav is gone, finally! 7/10 |
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| For an almost exact copy & paste of Madoka Magica this was still enjoyable |
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| This show started off really good, then kinda fell flat on its face around the later episodes. Fortunately, despite the many problems that I've had with this show, I still enjoyed it quite a bit. Overall, Magical Girl Raising Project gets a 6/10 from me, it was ok. |
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| Well, that beginning portion was pretty dang feelsy. The final battle, Swim Swim vs Ripple ends with a flash and that dang magical pet thing explains what this whole killing game was all about to Snow White. Fav is horrible at making friends and sucks as a person, funny watching it get desperate and everything before being destroyed. So now with two magical girls left, one has decided to fight all over the world I guess and the other is training her. I'd say this ended pretty dang well considering all they went through, 8/10. |
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| Read all the previous comments( which is always fun imho) and not suprisingly, they covered the whole spectrum. I'm gonna get to the point: I really liked it & will start reading the translations of the LN through MahoIkutranslationproject. Quick question: To the LN readers, I would start with Restart (2nd Arc?) or the prologue?(seeing as the anime did some things differently from the LN...) Wait...the manga & LN are they in conjunction with each other or stand-alone? |
1L0can0Dec 23, 2016 2:26 AM
Korrvo said: I like lolis. I don't like them sexually. It's hard to not like lolis, their cuteness pander to the same emotions that naturally makes us fathers. But it's hard to get off to anything that doesn't have any adult women characteristics like large tits, ass, and thighs. http://imgur.com/qgjKHGn |
| This is pretty much as a happy ending as you can get without coping out, Swim Swim is finally killed the way that piece of S deserved it, Ripple and Snow White live happily eve after (no season 2 please, don't kill the last two remaining girls I liked). Satisfying ending to...well how to put it? Interesting show? I certainly had moments where I wanted to punch something, even if it's just visceral hate, at least the anime evoked emotions. 6/10. |
| Wow, something like happy ending in that kind of a show? Surprising. Anyway, I think that despite the fact that the anime was good, the last episode could've been better. There wasn't a lot of action and a lot of things weren't explained. 8/10 overall |
1L0can0 said: Read all the previous comments( which is always fun imho) and not suprisingly, they covered the whole spectrum. I'm gonna get to the point: I really liked it & will start reading the translations of the LN through MahoIkutranslationproject. Quick question: To the LN readers, I would start with Restart (2nd Arc?) or the prologue?(seeing as the anime did some things differently from the LN...) Wait...the manga & LN are they in conjunction with each other or stand-alone? If you decide to not read the first volume, then you need to at least read the extra chapter from volume 1 that wasn't adapted and is super important, it's a link witha lot of things happening afterwards. |
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| The show was good overall but somethings really pissed me off. The main character was horrible. I genuinely don't understand why they didn't even try to investigate the possibility of getting Fav to bring her friends back or turn back time or something magical to fix things once she was chosen as master. Even if Fav was uncooperative, there's gotta be someone in the magic world that wouldn't tolerate this shit - I mean Fav and Cranberry were lying in their reports, were they not? That just leads me to believe the magic world wouldn't approve of the murders. My point is at least fucking try to fix things rather than kill Fav immediately. I also didn't like the happy ending. It would have been better to leave off on a non-feel-good mood considering the events of the plot. It was fairly enjoyable though and that Nano song for the ending was great. 6/10. |
Jordan_X said: The show was good overall but somethings really pissed me off. The main character was horrible. I genuinely don't understand why they didn't even try to investigate the possibility of getting Fav to bring her friends back or turn back time or something magical to fix things once she was chosen as master. Even if Fav was uncooperative, there's gotta be someone in the magic world that wouldn't tolerate this shit - I mean Fav and Cranberry were lying in their reports, were they not? That just leads me to believe the magic world wouldn't approve of the murders. My point is at least fucking try to fix things rather than kill Fav immediately. I also didn't like the happy ending. It would have been better to leave off on a non-feel-good mood considering the events of the plot. It was fairly enjoyable though and that Nano song for the ending was great. 6/10. You're angry because the main character is horrible for not doing something there is no reason to believe is possible? Really? Bringing back the dead, time travel? And why would Fav bring them back? Fav wanted them dead. Did you not even watch the show? |
| Wow, what an ending. I think I liked this show. It definitely kept me invested. A lot of the time, it felt a bit directionless, though, and I feel the show could have benefited from re-organizing/removing some of its flashbacks. Like, Magicaloid? Didn't need to know her backstory. It's totally banal, and adds nothing to her character, all it really did was signal "Oh, by the way guys, Magicaloid's going to die this episode!" Also, would've helped if some, or maybe all of the Ruler flashbacks happened before her death, that way it wouldn't seem they're trying to make us post-humously like a character they already made us hate after she's already gone. Ultimately I didn't understand the point of Sister Nana and Winterprison, other than to pad for time, and force some feels. I was also really disappointed with how Hardgore Alice was handled, being hyped up as mysterious, unkillable, and violent, then it turns out she's a good girl, she just wanted to help Snow White. Her death was pretty anticlimactic, and kind of doesn't make sense in the context of the ending. So the rabbit's foot will revive Ripple but not Alice? Why not? So, my final rating would be a 7/10. I liked the show, and I will watch a second season, but I don't see myself rewatching this season, and I can't imagine I'll be recommending it to a whole lot of people. |
| When Ripple was wondering if Swim was dead, I was like "Stab her! Make sure she's dead!" ... I think I'll leave this one with 8/10 (very good). I wasn't sure if it would deliver at first since it revealed what this anime was going to be like, but it did deliver... the dead lolis! Good stuff. |
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noireo said: fateoffate said: Some changes from LN. Snow White was supposed to follow Ripple immediately. The thing about giving up being magical girl should have happened before Hardgore Alice died and it doesn't last long. Also, Snow supposed to find out how to kill Fav by reading Fav's mind and give the signal to Ripple. Use the Halberd. Snow throw the phone next to Ripple and then Ripple broke it. Is Lerche trying to make Snow White unlikeable? I am also quite sure that Ripple kills Swin Swin while being affected by flash bang. Gee Lerche, last year you butchered Gakkou Gurashi, now this. Though Gurashi got it waaaaaay worse. I came here expecting Lerche changed something, Lerche lived up to expectations. They still got the music right. Better version of Akame ga Kill. Akame is shit. I came here for the killings and got what I wanted. The way the villain killed Alice was impressive, unless you are the person who loves generic mindless/pretentious lots of monologues action shounen deaths. |
ernstDec 25, 2016 5:53 AM
| "Why do I always realize it... when I've already lost it..." -Guts, Berserk "Some things are beautiful because they cannot be obtained." -Gilgamesh, Fate/stay night "We are constantly living in a peaceful world that somebody else won for us. Even if it were only a day of peace, I will be grateful for its value." - Minashiro Tsubaki, FAFNER "Screw you, future me!" -Makise Kurisu, Steins;Gate "We used to show off by waging wars and whatnot." -Watashi, Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita "Call me Moses. I'm going to part the sea of students before your eyes." -Moses?, Valvrave "Time is guilty." -Andō & Tomoyo, INOU-Battle |
| Good show. I thought the action was very well handled, while the flashbacks weren't. Would love to see a second season. |
| Finaly its over. I was so pissed about Swim Swims Actions that I was thinking to take a break from the Anime. How could you make such a innocent child go on a rampage like this? Only cause Neru (the one in the dreams) told her she could be a Princess too???? Like wtf??? The end was a little bit to quick ended. They should take it into 13 Episodes. But yeah GG Swim Swim died and Ripple got her revange and payed for it. Now Training Snow cause she is the only one left. I hope they go for a 2nd Season but this Time with more Background and Story development. Rated it 7/10. |
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