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OneTrueEmiyaDec 8, 2016 1:34 PM
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| Good good Just like every other VN adaption this will be a thread to talk about VN |
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And waifu wars, don't forget the waifu wars :^) |
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Gensan said: Good good Just like every other VN adaption this will be a thread to talk about VN We source material-fags need a place to convene when it comes to these matters, Gen. ;D How White Fox will handle it should be an interesting point of discussion futuristically for sure. |
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But what about Maho tan? do we have any HD Maho tan reaction? |
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Shiza-sennin said: Gensan said: Good good Just like every other VN adaption this will be a thread to talk about VN We source material-fags need a place to convene when it comes to these matters, Gen. ;D How White Fox will handle it should be an interesting point of discussion futuristically for sure. This. As you guys know, S;G 0 isn't anywhere as linear as the original, it'd be interesting to see how/whether then can adapt both the "Near Side" and "Far Side" routes in one go. HD Maho for sale :3 |
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Shiza-sennin said: How White Fox will handle it should be an interesting point of discussion futuristically for sure. I'll quote myself from other thread for this matter Gensan said: HaXXspetten said: I think Kagari would be fine.Yeah I guess that makes sense. At least we'll get the core part of the other story arc in that sense even if it won't branch off into the actual routes. I still feel like it'll be really hard to squeeze on all the developments concerning Kagari in the anime because they were so spread out, even if of course the main twist is at the end of Mayuri's route (which they obviously have to adapt since it leads to the True route) They must adapt entire kurisu route and entire Mayuri route(from shrine scene to true end). So while Kagari route will be skipped, Kurisu and mayuri route would be fine for kagari's characterization and development. What i'm worry about is actually Maho's character, because i think we will get 3 routes adapt Kurisu > Mayuri > True end Kagari, Maho and stigma will be skipped. 2 of the skip routes have big relation to Maho. I'm afraid anime will portray her as nothing more than meaningless kurisu replacement. now discuss |
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OneTrueEmiya said: Shiza-sennin said: We source material-fags need a place to convene when it comes to these matters, Gen. ;D How White Fox will handle it should be an interesting point of discussion futuristically for sure. This. As you guys know, S;G 0 isn't anywhere as linear as the original, it'd be interesting to see how/whether then can adapt both the "Near Side" and "Far Side" routes in one go. HD Maho for sale :3 Poor Maho-tan is tired of all this VN talk. Quick, turn on some Mozart! |
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OneTrueEmiya said: WORSHIP THE LEGAL RORIShiza-sennin said: We source material-fags need a place to convene when it comes to these matters, Gen. ;D How White Fox will handle it should be an interesting point of discussion futuristically for sure. This. As you guys know, S;G 0 isn't anywhere as linear as the original, it'd be interesting to see how/whether then can adapt both the "Near Side" and "Far Side" routes in one go. HD Maho for sale :3 MAHO MEME SHALL RISE |
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| Agreed @Gensan mostly. I'd love it if they incorporated part of Maho and Kagari routes in Kurisu route though. It'd be like: |
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OneTrueEmiya said: Agreed @Gensan mostly. I'd love it if they incorporated part of Maho and Kagari routes in Kurisu route though. It'd be like: |
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Gensan said: OneTrueEmiya said: But how can Faris Maho and Moeka fun fit with Kurisu route?Agreed @Gensan mostly. I'd love it if they incorporated part of Maho and Kagari routes in Kurisu route though. It'd be like: nothing can trigger that event i think unless maho apartment got attacked but that would mean there won't be any rounder attack on lab which is part of Kurisu plot. Ah you're right, rip girls' sleepover ;__; So it'd just be: |
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OneTrueEmiya said: YeahGensan said: But how can Faris Maho and Moeka fun fit with Kurisu route? nothing can trigger that event i think unless maho apartment got attacked but that would mean there won't be any rounder attack on lab which is part of Kurisu plot. Ah you're right, rip girls' sleepover ;__; So it'd just be: But what i'm worried about is Maho character 2 routes that has big relevance to her will be skipped (Bad end and Maho end) ;____; lots of her characterization and development won't appear in anime RIP Maho tan well shall make her meme live forever |
GensanDec 5, 2016 7:39 PM
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Gensan said: Yeah But what i'm worried about is Maho character 2 routes that has big relevance to her will be skipped (Bad end and Maho end) ;____; lots of her characterization and development won't appear in anime RIP Maho tan well shall make her meme live forever True, but then what they can do is make the Maho x Okabe scene in Faris' bedroom include the Amadeus-Salieri talk. Or maybe on Kurisu's route when Okabe reveals everything to Maho (pre-Kyouma revival). It might be a bit awkward to slot it in but these scenes imo are about the only times they can do that. Anime-only ppl potentially missing out on this too ;___; |
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| Tell us your most memorable experience in S;G 0 Ok i think i'm a bit diferent from everyone regarding this since i cleared "Nears side" first and "Far side" later. The most different thing about my experience here would be OneTrueEmiya said: Yea the song hunting will be skipped too ;____;Gensan said: Yeah But what i'm worried about is Maho character 2 routes that has big relevance to her will be skipped (Bad end and Maho end) ;____; lots of her characterization and development won't appear in anime RIP Maho tan well shall make her meme live forever True, but then what they can do is make the Maho x Okabe scene in Faris' bedroom include the Amadeus-Salieri talk. Or maybe on Kurisu's route when Okabe reveals everything to Maho (pre-Kyouma revival). It might be a bit awkward to slot it in but these scenes imo are about the only times they can do that. Anime-only ppl potentially missing out on this too ;___; |
GensanDec 6, 2016 6:11 PM
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| All I know about the eventual anime adaptation is that i'm going to be a little disappointed when they don't adapt the fun Moeka stuff from the Maho ending, x.x |
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| If they are smart they'll just adapt Mayuri's route with some stuff from other routes. It's the only route worth doing and I'd probably prefer it to my game experience if they do that. |
hyperknees91 said: If they are smart they'll just adapt Mayuri's route with some stuff from other routes. It's the only route worth doing and I'd probably prefer it to my game experience if they do that. They'd still have to have Kurisu's route before Mayuri's though. Even in VN gameplay terms we had to beat Promised Rinascimento to get to True End. |
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| Damn you hit bad end. how many ending have you cleared already? |
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Most memorable experience in S;G 0? Damn, there's tons of stuff but because I cleared Maho route and then continued onto Kagari route, it's got to be It took one scene and less than 30 mins for Kurisu to cement her role as best girl once again. CurseGoddess said: All I know about the eventual anime adaptation is that i'm going to be a little disappointed when they don't adapt the fun Moeka stuff from the Maho ending, x.x Faris sleepover scene, Moeka+Maho unbrella scene and Moeka vs Professor COME INTO ME KURISU RIP Twin Automata ;___; |
OneTrueEmiyaDec 6, 2016 9:09 PM
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OneTrueEmiya said: hyperknees91 said: If they are smart they'll just adapt Mayuri's route with some stuff from other routes. It's the only route worth doing and I'd probably prefer it to my game experience if they do that. They'd still have to have Kurisu's route before Mayuri's though. Even in VN gameplay terms we had to beat Promised Rinascimento to get to True End. Unless they make dramatic changes I'd rather it just be implied. Everything about that route was just boring. |
OneTrueEmiya said: Most memorable experience in S;G 0? Damn, there's tons of stuff but because I cleared Maho route and then continued onto Kagari route, it's got to be It took one scene and less than 30 mins for Kurisu to cement her role as best girl once again. Dem feel ;___; what if whitefox fucked up that scene? |
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Gensan said: Tell us your most memorable experience in S;G 0 Ok i think i'm a bit diferent from everyone regarding this since i cleared "Nears side" first and "Far side" later. The most different thing about my experience here would be OneTrueEmiya said: Yea the song hunting will be skipped too ;____;True, but then what they can do is make the Maho x Okabe scene in Faris' bedroom include the Amadeus-Salieri talk. Or maybe on Kurisu's route when Okabe reveals everything to Maho (pre-Kyouma revival). It might be a bit awkward to slot it in but these scenes imo are about the only times they can do that. Anime-only ppl potentially missing out on this too ;___; I ended up taking @OneTrueEmiya 's suggested path, and I feel like it worked perfectly, with the exception of the Gajin End (would be sudden no matter when you play it. xD) Kurisu -> Mayuri -> True just felt beyond perfect to me. As for the my most memorable experience... |
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Shiza-sennin said: Gensan said: Tell us your most memorable experience in S;G 0 Ok i think i'm a bit diferent from everyone regarding this since i cleared "Nears side" first and "Far side" later. The most different thing about my experience here would be Yea the song hunting will be skipped too ;____; I ended up taking @OneTrueEmiya 's suggested path, and I feel like it worked perfectly, with the exception of the Gajin End (would be sudden no matter when you play it. xD) Kurisu -> Mayuri -> True just felt beyond perfect to me. As for the my most memorable experience... Gaijin end lmao, tfw every other end is a girl and then suddenly LINTAROOO~ And yeah, agreed that |
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OneTrueEmiya said: Shiza-sennin said: I ended up taking @OneTrueEmiya 's suggested path, and I feel like it worked perfectly, with the exception of the Gajin End (would be sudden no matter when you play it. xD) Kurisu -> Mayuri -> True just felt beyond perfect to me. As for the my most memorable experience... Gaijin end lmao, tfw every other end is a girl and then suddenly LINTAROOO~ And yeah, agreed that Gaijin-chan did well to introduce a new nickname for Okabe. It's what all the girls do! ;D But hey, this is what happens when a Kurisufag and a Mayurifag discuss the routes. :v |
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| There's one bad thing about S;G 0. It doesn't have Braun tube ending. smfh instant 1/10 |
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Gensan said: There's one bad thing about S;G 0. It doesn't have Braun tube ending. smfh instant 1/10 No one can resist the appeal of Mista Braun-nyan~ |
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Shiza-sennin said: He's still GAR in that kawaii maid outfit though.Gensan said: There's one bad thing about S;G 0. It doesn't have Braun tube ending. smfh instant 1/10 No one can resist the appeal of Mista Braun-nyan~ |
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| Oh, I have a question regarding the Kurisu route, @Gensan. |
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| No, it doesn't give us information about which worldline K.Okabe (Kurisu route Okabe) shifts too. But I'm sure |
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Gensan said: No, it doesn't give us information about which worldline K.Okabe (Kurisu route Okabe) shifts too. But I'm sure Ye, I know all that. But |
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Shiza-sennin said: It never explained but i thinkGensan said: No, it doesn't give us information about which worldline K.Okabe (Kurisu route Okabe) shifts too. But I'm sure Ye, I know all that. But |
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| I'm honestly confused about what happened in the ending with Moeka. What ever came of this? I don't feel like this was ever elaborated on, so i'm still not sure what she wanted with her... http://i.imgur.com/ha11FVv.jpg |
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| Done with the game last night, this one sentence made me feel like a horrible human being. I hate myself |
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Moli_Malone said: Anyone knows my questions? |
Shiza-senninDec 18, 2016 11:10 PM
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Moli_Malone said: Thank you very much, Shiza-sennin, i have any things more clear now. The only thing about 1 @Moli_Malone You're welcome, mate. Anything I can do to help. :D |
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| Also finished yesterday. My only thought right now - Anime adaptation is the only hope now to wrap up this mess. I mean they didn't even showed Mayuri when she time traveled (Drama CD β - The Arc of Light of Infinity). Also story was focused on 2 routes (not that story in them is not important, but it was not exactly what we were looking from S;G0) and then like time skip where all things that needed to be showed in order to receive answers for main questions and we see true ending and that's all. They gave us major clues about everything but they just didn't show it explicitly. I know that many people will say that it was left to our own interpretation, but why? They did perfect with S;G, why didn't they do this with S;G0? S;G is not that kind of story where things left to our own interpretation is okay (Except true ending of original S;G, that was the whole point of the series). My main problems: They didn't explain Reading Steiner ability. Again, so many clues but they never explained it explicitly. Yes there are much more people than only Okabe with similar ability and it is understandable, but why Okabe has "Perfect Reading Steiner"? It's still pretty different from others. There was a lot of foreshadowing that it's just like overwriting memories that was discussed on conference and with maho. But what it actually was? Was it some very complicated machine that was created by someone from the (very distant) future that existed on every world line and somehow saved Okabe's memories right before WL change and overwrited it in new WL after? We never knew this. They didn't explain mechanic of locked video message. This is probably the biggest problem, they just send it, The end. Why in that particular time span? How it was working? The whole "time skip" between A&V end and MWC. Cmon, at least some flashbacks or fast/forward scenes of how it all leaded to MWC. I heard somewhere here that there is some "Amadeus script" but I don't see any opportunity to read it. They left so many things out of VN. This also involves why there was Kagari in MWC, they send locked message and message that we saw in V&A ending where in both cases (before and after time leap) kagari was dead. Or if there were much more jumping from WL to WL after V&A ending, again, why didn't they even told us about that? Kurisu in Twin Automata ending again this was never explained what actually was happening when amadeus was almost deleted. Also the whole theme of Amadeus Kurisu was not elaborated enough. There are a few other things that I wanted to discuss but I forgot them :( Nice things that I really liked: Song from Recursive mother Goose. While some people will call this paradox, this is just nice that "fate" created some song to make meeting of all of the characters through so many different times. (but if I remember right the origin melody of this song was Maho's music box gift?). Weird nightmares "70 million years ago" from original S;G HA! I fucking called it a long long time ago that it was not just nightmares and they will have actual value some day! But again, this makes full sense only if you watch Drama CD β - The Arc of Light of Infinity after S;G0. So it was "real" Mayuri (and probably Okarin when he found them) 70m years in the past, and they most likely really died there and memories become part of them from original S;G. It was really nice. Same goes for nightmare with "Okarin falling into blacklohe", this is more for our interpretation but it is certainly connected to zero. --------- So overall, was it good? I would probably say yes, but definitely not better than original(at least for now, maybe I still missing some important things). The main problem was that they focused mostly on "side" stories and less on event's that was supposed to be directly answered in Zero. And it's not like because of bad writing, for some reason they just didn't. They had all preparations, foreshadowing and different clues, but when it was time to get everything together and answer questions and show the most important events... they just skipped that part and jumped to obvious true end most of which was already known from original S;G. I really hope that anime adaptation will add more explanation from official side materials and wrap up and answer all (or at least some most important) questions. Until then... Good luck, mad scientist. El. Psy. Kongroo. |
HoTTab1CHDec 20, 2016 10:36 AM
| Just finished it earlier. I wouldn't say there is a whole lot of plot "holes", but i do feel like some places were especially lazy with the explanations, and things that probably should have been explained was open to interpretation. My absolute biggest complaint is the But nitpicky things aside, I still rather enjoyed S;G 0. Okabe's issues made him seem more human. The new characters were alright. Mayuri's Friends weren't all that useful plotwise imo, but Maho was a nice contrast to Kurisu. Was it as good as the original? Definitely not. But was it still good overall? I'd say so. |
| i think the only issue with Zero is they left things that should be explained open to interpretation. For example one of the most confusing thing is Rinascimento case, they can easily avoid questions by making maho upload Okabe's memory by 15 January but they decide to make it 31 January explicitly instead. Other than that, i'm pretty satisfied with it The plot is good and interesting The character developments were better in Zero (especially mayuri, daru, suzuha, maho, and of course okabe himself) The soundtracks, animations, and CGs were great Too bad they just spreading clues everywhere while not directly explain some things, i hope they can do justice to the anime adaptation. |
Moli_Malone said: Yes, that have sense, althoug in Milky way, another stange thing is Another thing that i don't undertand it's Thanks again! Answers to your second question :) As far as I know this would explain it. |
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I came to more logical explanation. Suzuha knew about the video and everything else because it's Suzuha that will come from 2036 from WL of true ending of S;G0, so she knew that they were sending video message and rest of the plan. This leads that in original S;G we saw already event's that were after S;G0 (because it was deleted from existence, so it's right from that perspective) and Suzuha was suzuha from 2036 S;G0 true ending (this is not Suzuha that went back in time with Mayuri and from the start of S;G0) |
| I have questions about some possible problems in the Steins;Gate worldline, considering 0-s plot. I don't think there are clear clues about these, so I am asking for sensible theories. |
Mandrake10Jan 11, 2017 2:14 PM
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