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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Yeah, Larcade's done. And back to Erza and Irene(and Wendy). And finally their relationship is revealed. Guess mother won out over sister afterall. But Queen of the Dragons? Uh...huh. Well let's see how this goes then... |
| Mother and daughter eh? I guess next chapter will be backstory time, looking forward to it. |
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| so Eileen is really Erza's mother as expected Eileen was once the queen of all dragons and she will reveal the mystery behind Erza's birth on the upcoming chapters |
| I got a feeling we'll be seeing more of Irene's past from here. "I am your mother". Got a Darth Vader-like moment there. |
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| The scar on the belly gave it away a long time ago ... |
I'm glad I'm not the only one who did. Sooooo, well, Irene is Erza's mother, but that's been highly predictable for some time now. What I'm curious about is that "Queen of the Dragons" thingy. This is the kind of chapter I'd like to see more often in FT. 4/5. Next chapter is called "Origin of the Dragons". |
| FINALLY. It's finally been revealed who Irene is. I would have been disappointed if she turned out to be anything other than her mother so I'm happy. Irene may not be as bad as she seems. Well, at least I hope so. It would be a bit repetitive considering the Gray/Silver storyline but I want to see a nice mother/daughter moment after how long Irene's identity has been kept a mystery. But the queen of dragons thing really caught me off-guard. Is Erza going to be revealed to be Acnologia's kid or something, next? Somehow, I don't really like the idea... |
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| Even Erza is a chosen one now? -_- |
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| Irene queen of the dragons? Was she the creator of the dragon slayers? If so then I'm guessing Erza is from a time before the Dragon Slayer making her older than Natsu. Although Acnologia didn't recognise her and she didn't acknowledge knowing him during their battle so she couldn't have been involved in creating him. |
| Well, it was painfully obvious Irene was Erza's mother. The clues were too plain to see. But Queen of the Dragons? Was she consort with Acnologia, then? So does that mean Erza also has dragon blood in her? This is interesting. |
| What if Irene is the ex. Wife of Acnologia? and what if Acnologia also a Dragneel? I'm getting serious imaginations like Juvia! (maybe she really could figure this out) Anyway step by step, Zeref's pride as the main villain in the series is going down. |
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| Finally confirmed that Irene is Erza's mother. Erza's family really is coming out of nowhere. I hope that they actually provide an explanation with how they got separated. |
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short_review said: The scar on the belly gave it away a long time ago ... Yeah. Given Erza's personality, and Irene's as well, being bone out of caesarean section makes it quite badass and fitting. Actually, I'd even imagine that Irene did the procedure herself lol |
| Wow Mashima, you definitely had me fooled, there was absolutely noooooooooo possible way I would have ever guessed that Irene was Erza's mother. *sarcastically rolls eyes* Putting that painfully obvious, not-so-shocking fact aside, I AM interested in the "Former Queen of Dragons" part. |
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| Guess Angel pretty much confirms Lacarde's magic :D Eileen being Erza's mother such shock, much wow. Queen of Dragons eh, well that came out of nowhere. Wonder if she's connected with Ancologia or something. |
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Isterio said: That's fine if it is clear from the beginning.zal said: Even Erza is a chosen one now? -_- To be fair, people getting mad over the stereotype of main characters having amazingly awesome parents therefore being destined for greatness are somewhat wrong. It´s basic eugenics, better genes just result in better kids Harry Potter did it, One Piece didit, Bleach did it, Naruto did it, though that´s a a multi layered one. It started off with Hercules,Superman is the posterchild of all those stories and even Batman does it to an extend, therefore all of them technically are ripoffs of Hercules and Superman. I don't see how them doing it makes it better or worse, it's not even an argument. And in fact I think Harry Potter, Bleach and Naruto have similar issues. The dragon slayers being chosen ones is nota big deal but now even Erza?One piece did a better job at it since what makes him a chosen one is the will of D and there are multiple people around the world with it. As for Hercules there are many semi-gods. Superman is not a chosen one by birth just like Goku. Getting mad at Erza for having OP parents is unfair as such a heritage can actually explain her powerlevel. I didn't get mad, I don't care that much, just rolled my eyes once. |
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| I do have to give Hiro some credit on renewing my interest in Erza and Irene storyline. We all figured she could be her mom or sister and now it's confirmed. Now on top of that, she's the Queen of Dragons? Hopefully the wait is worth it. 4/5- Thank god this wasn't dragged out as long as August, who has yet to get into an actual fight for over a year. I'm tired of hearing how strong he is and at this point, I don't care about him anymore. |
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| So she is Erza's mother...how original... At least title queen of dragon is promising. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| At least, the reason behind Erza's enormous breasts is finally explained. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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RavenArc said: No one will ask why wendy say they have the same smell ? Mother and daughter smell diferent right ? The translation I read said that they have similar scents, not that they're identical. Similar implies they can smell different while being familiar to each other. -- I'm glad Irene was confirmed as her mother. People were starting to speculate about sisters and that was making me sad ;_; Need Irene's backstory now. |
0ni_Link said: At least, the reason behind Erza's enormous breasts is finally explained. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)  RavenArc said: No one will ask why wendy say they have the same smell ? Mother and daughter smell diferent right ? Wrong translation, the one I read said similar smell. |
| Not really surprised about the reveal that Eileen is Erza's mother.But wtf?Queen of the dragons?I think there will be a flashback next week. |
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Isterio said: Soniclover42 said: Personally, I hate this trope in anime. Shonen manga is very guilty of this. It takes all the tension away from the story because you know that because of their unfair advantage they will win. Oh, how I would love just to have a normal protagonist. Naruto just become boring when Kishi used this idea. And now Hiro to. Seriously! Plus like Naruto it feels like it came out of nowhere and how the hell did Acnologia not know about her if she use to be the Queen of dragons. It´s pointless to argue that "that" is what takes the tension away from a Shounen. It´s not the 80´s therefore we won´t get Shounen Manga like Fist of the Northstar or old Jojo´s anymore . We all know the good guys will win in the end regardless of who their parents are.Is it bad that this happens? I mean it´s the Shounen demographic and even Fist of the Northstar had a bittersweet ending without killing it´s main character by the end. Not every Anime can be Cowboy Bebop and the Shounen demographic isn´t the audience for the Song of Ice and Fire (not Game of Thrones, this show became worse than Shounen with it´s writing). All popular mordern Shounen copy Dragon Ball in some way (yes this includes HxH) because Dragon Ball just changed manga history, this includes the Fairy Tale ending of Dragon Ball. It´s fine calling this trope boring or overused, but it does make logical sense. Guts from Berserk requires a Gorilla for a father and a Grizlly for a grandfather to justify the insane feats he pulls off in within the most critically aclaimed Seinen on this site. Even if his heritage isn´t made a big deal. This is the only logical explanation for Gut´s powerlevel besides "he´s a freak of nature". JoJo did the chosen one's like it should be done, they aren't the ones with a great fate. They are cursed by living short lives. Even in SBR Universe they are still getting fucked up consistentlu. Dammit you made me want to read Fist of the North Star again... the Savior of Century's End is one of the most badass characters in all media. Oh, yeah the Fairy Fail thing. I still expect that the Mary Sue called Erza die a horrible dead. But now she will get a power upp.... dammit. |
| I even forgot Erza had another weapons other than that piece of shit kimono that doesn't protect anything |
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So.. If Irene is Erza's mother, then why did she say this? chapter 507 last page. Was that a mistranslation? The mangaka made a mistake? Or it's just some kind of poetic way of saying that they're mother and daughter??? Does anyone know who are still alive(or able to fight at all) from the enemies by the way? I know Acnologia, Irene, Zeref, (Brandish and the other chick seem like they're good now) |
tkrisz2 said: So.. If Irene is Erza's mother, then why did she say this? chapter 507 last page. Was that a mistranslation? The mangaka made a mistake? Or it's just some kind of poetic way of saying that they're mother and daughter??? I have a lot of hunches about that dialogue: 1.) Your statement could be right, It was just a deep/stylish/poetic way of conveying Irene's philosophical dialogues in regards to her daughter, Erza. 2.) Erza is an experimental artificial baby taken off from the cells/genes of Eileen. Hence, the scar and that dialogue. Eileen sees Erza as one of her creations that's why she said that. Also technically becoming her mom. (I hope this doesn't happen though, I don't want this) 3.) Mashima is trolling. This scene wasn't related in any way. Eileen is Erza's biological mom. Erza could either be half breed (half human, half dragon) since her mom is the 'Queen of Dragons" like what most people are predicting or just plain humans (Eileen being regarded as queen because of her intense power making the dragons respect her) |
| Irene is the dragon queen and erza's mother XD Her dad will be igneel and she will be natsu sister :) |
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| - Erza your father was a dragon ! - Please stop puting dirty images in my mind ! Go away ! - And he had a huuuuuuuuge ... - SHUT UP ! ! |
| A very good chapter in the standard of this Manga. |
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| OMG THE FORMER QUEEN OF THE DRAGONS ? i kinda sensed Erza was a special being (i thought she was the one who's going to save Natsu in the end or something like that since she and Natsu has special friendship) but i never thought she was the dragons princess lol Eilene nor Acnologia showed any signs of knowing each other when they fought, so that means that she was the queen before Acnologia becoming a dragon slayer ? or was he the one who slayed the former dragon king but didnt met Eilene in the past that's why she wants revenge ? dont worry Natsu is going to do the revenge for u so rest a ease :P since there's a dragons topic in this fight, i dont think this is going to end well, Either Natsu's going to interfere or it's going to be the real King Acnologia himself |
| AYYYYYYYYY dat last page. holy crap. |
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