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zcv45 said: FlareKnight said: I wonder if people watching this show would read a history book and think WW2 had bad writing :)? This guy is doing a much better job than Hitler ever did in handling a war of this scale. Pressure the western side of Europe, work to get them to give up, and then focus on Russia. Sure he has some nice tools Hitler never had, but he's doing it a lot better regardless. I'm not sure what anyone on his side has to complain about right now. They are winning spectacularly and even after Sophie dies they've got such a commanding edge over the rest of the world that...they really could take it over. Well Hitler did pressure Britain to make peace(which is more likely than surrendering) after fall of France. Britain was pretty adamant on not giving up. Hitler's invasion plan on Britain would of never worked. In fact unless there is some really genius plan, I doubt Germany could of ever done Britain in. Maybe starve them with a massive U-boat campaign? but that was very unlikely since Germany didn't produce enough U-boats and the British had a lot in developing counter-measures as evidence in the later years. Hitler had nothing to pressure the West with outside of taking over mainland Europe. Germania in the series have a magical nuke and science more advanced than modern day in terms of biology. Aerospace technology is at least 5 years more advanced due to use of V1s and many more advantages Only when battle of Britain failed did Hitler shift his attention to the Soviet Union. It wasn't much of a two front war if you exclude North Africa since Mainland Europe is pretty much secured. It was plenty reasonable to shift focus since Britain and shown they won't give up. He isn't anymore skilled than Hitler was in really anything(at least he isn't shown to be) he simply has the assets to win. We all know he is going to lose though which puts him on a potentially even worse spot than Hitler's failure :/ It is expected from people in MAL to think this NotHitler is better than Hitler. I know not anyone is into history but if you are watching an anime that is based on WWII then you should know something about it more than reading propaganda and oversimplified stuff they teach in school. German had to face serious problem with resources and materials very early in the war. Their intelligent agency was a failure and got led around by UK. NotGerman do not seem to suffer from these things at all and somehow got a lot of great toys that can turn the tide of battles with few loses. |
1idd0kun said: voice_enable said: Am I the only one who thinks Izetta is in an emotionally abusive relationship? No one is trying to abuse her. The problem is herself. She has so little self-esteem and worships Fine so much that she has centered her whole life around the princess. I was hoping she would grow out from this. I thought she would get more self-assured and would eventually stop defining her life around Fine so much. But now it's clear the staff were never interested in developing her character. Izetta was basically a hobo girl who would've been killed like a dog if it wasnt for Fine. Its not surprising for her to be so dedicated. Its all in the name of luuuurrve.. |
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| Is it just me, or does Sophie look like Mao (Code Geass)? mozgow said: Well, there were a million more factors in play during the WW's that most people would have no knowledge of, which acted as force constraints. I'm pretty familiar with working with extremely sophisticated tactics/strategy, and this series is not that spectacular in that regard, though it is quite good.FlareKnight said: That's exactly what I was thinking while watching this episode. Proper use of V1 rockets against Eylstadt, then used them in great numbers (and imbued with magic) to bring terror to Londonium. Proper plans for the war - defeat allies first, then Volga Federation and finally United States of Atalanta. And then Germania will rule the world :-)I wonder if people watching this show would read a history book and think WW2 had bad writing :)? This guy is doing a much better job than Hitler ever did in handling a war of this scale. Pressure the western side of Europe, work to get them to give up, and then focus on Russia. Sure he has some nice tools Hitler never had, but he's doing it a lot better regardless. I'm not sure what anyone on his side has to complain about right now. They are winning spectacularly and even after Sophie dies they've got such a commanding edge over the rest of the world that...they really could take it over. Speaking about weapons, are Germanians creating a magic-equivalent of nuclear weapon ?  I'm still wondering when the USSR is going to play a role... At that point in time, everyone was working on a super-bomb, the USA just got to it first; Russians close behind. |
GenesisAriaDec 5, 2016 10:54 AM
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| The thing that shocked me the most this episode was learning Izetta was only 15. |
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| Damm the country has fallen what a sad sight secret passages are a must within a palace lol its nice to see that Fine cares about the lives of her people and her retainers though. This trait of hers i really admire looking forward to the episode where Izetta can wipe that damn smirk off Sophie's face by crushing her Without Izetta who was the cornerstone of their defense the defenses just can't hold nice to see the Royal guard and the regular army spring that ambush though but man that fighter pilot was brave despite knowing that he will die once he reveals himself the air to air battles though was surprisingly good so far we only seen the germanian fighters attacking nice to see them being on the defensive being kind to others will always cause those that you helped to help you back but man those soldiers are brave and seeing the civilians arming themselves as well thats something so that was Lotte's family then eh Sophie really has a attitude problem doesn't she but man Berkman losing his most effective weapon that he helped developed as a reward. Can't see him taking that but with the forbidden stone won't that effect Sophie as well since it drains her life glad that Izetta was able to regain consciousness though its nice that they found that base in the alps this will be their base until they can deal with that witch Its nice to see that Fine is readily admitting her mistakes but the responsibility is not hers alone so thats why Sophie hates Fine's kingdom so much eh because of her ancestor and her actions eh missile launching with magic eh but man thats a lot of missiles that scene though with that many missiles and fighters was well executed so thats why Izetta lost Sophie had drained all the magic from the area beforehand so Sieg's family took part in the persecution of the white witch well it looks like Britannia will fall soon as well mass produced clone bodies eh well if they succeed then the white witch will be truly invincible seeing Izetta like that really makes you sad damn you Sophie Damm thats some tall conditions for peace but as it stands the allies will be forced to accept it its nice to see the story is still following ww2 with the invasion of Russia planned as well though Elliot looks far from pleased here its nice to see that even now Izetta's love and respect for Fine hasn't changed hmm so Sieg had the other half of the magic stone eh now there's a game changer there Great episode as always but seeing Izetta like that and the country fallen really makes you sad. Can't wait to see Izetta beat Sophie and wipe that smirk of her face. |
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tasmanian_otakuDec 5, 2016 5:52 PM
| I like how people are acting like Germany never attacked London in real life... This Hitler is no better than the first one. Is about to go full retard and attack on two fronts just like the original. |
GenesisAria said: I know there were many more factors in play during our WW2 (someone already posted some of them) but it seems there are few (if any) that are still in the play in this version of WW2. Well, there were a million more factors in play during the WW's that most people would have no knowledge of, which acted as force constraints. I'm pretty familiar with working with extremely sophisticated tactics/strategy, and this series is not that spectacular in that regard, though it is quite good. I can't say much about tactics/strategy, as I do not know much about it, but I'm enjoying this aspect of the anime too. GenesisAria said: I doubt there was communists revolution in Russia (or maybe it failed) as it's called Volga Federation, and federation implies voluntariness. Regardless of the origin of this version of Russia, maybe allies will convince them to declare war against Germania?I'm still wondering when the USSR is going to play a role... At that point in time, everyone was working on a super-bomb, the USA just got to it first; Russians close behind. As for the new big-bomb, it seems Germania is the closest one to creating one. |
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| @mozgow I dunno if Russia is expanding in this timeline, but the Reich provoked the USSR (though it was inevitable, they were expanding towards eachother) and got the undesirable attention of the beast. |
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| I close to the end of the ep and Izetta was talking about how she made (her gf) cry and I was just thinking..."Sophie only has half of the stone....where would the other half be?" And then that ponytail guy (forgot his name) mentioned that there was a way and I was like "I KNEW IT!" But now I'm like...it's kind of predictable, but a battle between witches I'm looking forward to. Also...I think this is the death flag for Izetta but what do I know. |
| Damn, Yall are harsh, i thought this was a good episode. |
| So there is still the other half of the stone. Izetta still has a chance, since that another witch is almost dead. |
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| I sense many deaths come the last episode. |
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| that Otto guy is too greedy... |
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| I'm not sure if I understand it correctly but I guess Sophie is related to the witch that had an affair with that prince? She's a clone and will not last long at all. |
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| Izetta is rescue!!! But the castle is fall by the germans!!! ; _ ; This episode is a prelude, information about all the army stragegy and about the next lasts two episodes, when the wars is begin to start!!!! Izetta, will she takes the red stone?? The normal is yes, takes it, but i prefer that not!!! ; _ ; |
| So there's the other half of the witch's gemstone that would make Izetta so super saiyan and be on par with Sophie! Imminent clash is about to begin! 4/5. |
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soluuloi said: zcv45 said: Well Hitler did pressure Britain to make peace(which is more likely than surrendering) after fall of France. Britain was pretty adamant on not giving up. Hitler's invasion plan on Britain would of never worked. In fact unless there is some really genius plan, I doubt Germany could of ever done Britain in. Maybe starve them with a massive U-boat campaign? but that was very unlikely since Germany didn't produce enough U-boats and the British had a lot in developing counter-measures as evidence in the later years. Hitler had nothing to pressure the West with outside of taking over mainland Europe. Germania in the series have a magical nuke and science more advanced than modern day in terms of biology. Aerospace technology is at least 5 years more advanced due to use of V1s and many more advantages Only when battle of Britain failed did Hitler shift his attention to the Soviet Union. It wasn't much of a two front war if you exclude North Africa since Mainland Europe is pretty much secured. It was plenty reasonable to shift focus since Britain and shown they won't give up. He isn't anymore skilled than Hitler was in really anything(at least he isn't shown to be) he simply has the assets to win. We all know he is going to lose though which puts him on a potentially even worse spot than Hitler's failure :/ It is expected from people in MAL to think this NotHitler is better than Hitler. I know not anyone is into history but if you are watching an anime that is based on WWII then you should know something about it more than reading propaganda and oversimplified stuff they teach in school. German had to face serious problem with resources and materials very early in the war. Their intelligent agency was a failure and got led around by UK. NotGerman do not seem to suffer from these things at all and somehow got a lot of great toys that can turn the tide of battles with few loses. Failure of German intelligence have nothing to do with Hitler. Resources is always an issue based on their geography. This guy happens to have better intelligence team have nothing to do with his ability as a leader. Neither is resources. And with the geography being practically the same, "nothitler" as you call him(which I think is pretty clever so I'll use it from now on) should be going through the same problems, except this is never mentioned in the anime. You can't assume they are or are not having that issue. Germany didn't suffer much supply problems as of yet anyways. It is in late 41' when the first signs of lack of resource starts to pop up when Germany goes in to North Africa in full force. Though Rommel was very aggressive, while effective he had poor resource management and for some reason didn't understand Germany prioritized reinforcements to the Eastern front. Though North Africa is actually pretty important and high command didn't realize that until it was too late. Furthermore, German codes weren't cracked until mid-1941 either. Based on the timeline, none of these events are actually happening in the anime and even if it is, not long enough to become a noticeable problem. NotHitler simply haven't done anything that proves he is better than Hitler. |
zcv45Dec 23, 2016 3:14 PM
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| Here comes again an interesting episode and well done on the script level, but definitely wrong under the plan of directing, as regards the timing of the events. During the narration some questions pile up, he hoped they all clarified in the future. Drawings and animations, sufficient. Excellent but the soundtrack. The end, do well understood, what will be the possible outcome of this story. I also believe in a nuclear bomb in a magical version. |
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ichii_1 said: Okay did you do that on purpose?Fine is fine too but Fine doesn't want izetta to hurt herself anymore. |
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| Well, it didn't take long to rescue Izetta... I guess I was hoping she would be captured for a while. Can't say I'm surprised about the other half of the stone showing up (or the one that had it). So what's this madman's motivation to control the world anyway? |
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| Poor Izetta! Sophie really have to lot of hate against the city. |
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| It's amazing how they adapted the stories of the wars that we went through for this anime. I don't believe that Izetta will corrupt herself to save Eylstadt ;-;. |
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| I knew he'd have the other half. Of fucking course he did. I'm getting slightly bored and not interested in Sophie or her revenge plan. |
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