Lobinde said: FontSize72LOL said: Gotta fight fire with fire sometimes. Use their rhetoric against them. If i cant burn a gay pride flag (Just to clarify, I have nothing against gays, virtue signaling, etc) then the left shouldn't be able to burn the US flag. I don't think it's illegal to burn a gay pride flag, and just to clarify I do not at all side with people who think that it should be. I think you should be allowed to burn ANY flag, in ANY country, as long as you aren't doing it in a way that presents a safety hazard. Except there has been a few cases where it was treated as a "hate crime". Its just burning a flag though, Its just a piece of cloth. Just like burning a cross, its just wood, whats the big deal? Like i find this as ridiculous as anyone else, but just for arguments sake, how are those freedoms of "expression" any different than burning a US flag? Terrorists burn our flag in the streets of foreign countries, and it obviously is offensive to some people. Yes, yes i know this is me sounding like an SJW here, but that is the whole point i'm trying to get across. |
DateYutaka said: Fuchsia said: Well no shit. If you you see the difference, you must also see the irony in way of thinking. You'd be surprised. You think people would simply mock you? these extremists wouldn't stop there. We're talking possible loss of job, lynching, vandalism and all sorts of shit. Opposition in ideology, especially if made public, can be a dangerous thing. i live in very ight lenaing nation i i gte less hassle tha nn say far rightsist or people i see as fra right give even modarate leftists in the us Deciphering your sentences is a challenge in its own right. Ik you're foaming at the mouth, but take your time and type slowly as to not make as many spelling errors. Maybe then I can respond. |
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Fuchsia said: Ik you're foaming at the mouth, but take your time and type slowly as to not make as many spelling errors. Maybe then I can respond. he's using a typo generator of sort. it's pretty much how he always write on MAL. |
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this is from an american I am American, and I say fuck this country. I hate it here. The government is corrupt and the people are brainless idiots. burn that stupid gypsy flag a flag is just freaking tissue the most hated country in the world is Murica |
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DateYutaka said: Fuchsia said: Deciphering your sentences is a challenge in its own right. Ik you're foaming at the mouth, but take your time and type slowly as to not make as many spelling errors. they way even modarte leftist are attacked in the us on everything The leftists incharge of academia and the media, for the most part, are the ones being attacked? |
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haha sad it was probably a Chinese flag anyway. |
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| @AllenVonStein If you truly do hate your country there are plenty of options likely available to you. Firstly you could leave the country for another, of course this would require money. Or you could attempt to influence a change in government. It doesn't have to be on the federal level, but rather the local level or state level. To simply bitch and moan about not liking the country shows the type of person you are. Downright lazy and a coward. |
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| Jesus Christ...look at the way Trump Supporters defend this shit! My god...what is wrong with you guys?!? Look...I voted for Obama in 2012 and I constantly disagreed with MANY of his points during his second term. You know just because you voted or support Trump doesn't mean you have to agree with all his nonsense. |
JustALEX said: Jesus Christ...look at the way Trump Supporters defend this shit! My god...what is wrong with you guys?!? Look...I voted for Obama in 2012 and I constantly disagreed with MANY of his points during his second term. You know just because you voted or support Trump doesn't mean you have to agree with all his nonsense. They're too busy deepthroating him to think :D |
Fuchsia said: @AllenVonStein If you truly do hate your country there are plenty of options likely available to you. Firstly you could leave the country for another, of course this would require money. Or you could attempt to influence a change in government. It doesn't have to be on the federal level, but rather the local level or state level. To simply bitch and moan about not liking the country shows the type of person you are. Downright lazy and a coward. haha murica is most hated country first in list But without further adieu, here are the top 10 most hated countries in the world. United States of America, Land of the Free and Hated. ... Germany Speaks for Itself…One Word: Hitler. ... Don't Visit Belgium. ... Saudi Arabia – Bad for Women or Everyone. ... Mexico – A Terrible Place? ... would maybe like Murica if Hillary won lol It's just a flag. The values of American aren't contained in a flag, if people there still do have some values to begins with only morons there , When someone burns a flag the correct response is to laugh at them. that's just show how moron and eazy triggered someone can get , u realize it's made in china too guess trump is ur god |
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JustALEX said: Jesus Christ...look at the way Trump Supporters defend this shit! My god...what is wrong with you guys?!? Look...I voted for Obama in 2012 and I constantly disagreed with MANY of his points during his second term. You know just because you voted or support Trump doesn't mean you have to agree with all his nonsense. >Trump Supporter Don't really support him that much, but if he riles up people like yourself, I could care less what happens. Supporting the Trump that is angering you guys is my way of "Burning the flag". |
| I've already mentioned many times I'm not a Trump supporter but I'd be 100% okay with burning the flag being illegal. It isn't something I'd actively advocate for but I won't complain about it. |
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| @AllenVonStein You literally didn't mention anything I said,, nice scapegoat. It's not the flag, it's what it represents. I would be saying this about pretty much every flag of a western country. Clearl you, as many millennials do, take their country and freedom for granted. And it's not just that, it's the pure stupidity of saying that you dislike something but not doing something practical about it. |
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JustALEX said: Jesus Christ...look at the way Trump Supporters defend this shit! My god...what is wrong with you guys?!? lol they will believe anything literally their god would say or anything related to him , just in video above . Mod Edit: Removed off-topic post |
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| @Fuchsia Well to be fair, his "doing something practical about it" is being one of the propaganda machines in the Current Events section. |
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| @Hibbington u may call it propaganda machines but it's not but not only on mal i post in facebook , youtube , blogs.... when i am done there i come here cuz there's more activity there |
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Fuchsia said: @AllenVonStein You literally didn't mention anything I said,, nice scapegoat. It's not the flag, it's what it represents. I would be saying this about pretty much every flag of a western country. Clearl you, as many millennials do, take their country and freedom for granted. And it's not just that, it's the pure stupidity of saying that you dislike something but not doing something practical about it. And those freedoms are not contained inside a piece of cloth. If you make burning the U.S flag illegal, you might as well just burn the constitution while you're at it. While burning the flag of your own country is in most circumstances a petty, entitled action a better course of action would be to make your country good enough so that no one wants to burn its flag, rather than make flag burning illegal. |
| @AllenVonStein Having other hobbies makes me unworthy to converse with the big boys up here in CE? Please. You type like a fucking child, you really shouldn't be the one going off topic here. Before you talk shit you should wake up, this is an anime forum. |
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| @Fuchsia lol nope this is CE for World headlines, the latest in science, sports competitions, and other debate topics. anime in AD That's my style |
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JustALEX said: >Expecting your average Trump supporting internet warrior to be logically consistentJesus Christ...look at the way Trump Supporters defend this shit! My god...what is wrong with you guys?!? Look...I voted for Obama in 2012 and I constantly disagreed with MANY of his points during his second term. You know just because you voted or support Trump doesn't mean you have to agree with all his nonsense. |
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Lobinde said: Of course. I didn't say otherwise. But it's what it represents. You can't possibly say a flag doesn't represent the country. That's its whole purpose. Fuchsia said: @AllenVonStein You literally didn't mention anything I said,, nice scapegoat. It's not the flag, it's what it represents. I would be saying this about pretty much every flag of a western country. Clearl you, as many millennials do, take their country and freedom for granted. And it's not just that, it's the pure stupidity of saying that you dislike something but not doing something practical about it. And those freedoms are not contained inside a piece of cloth. If you make burning the U.S flag illegal, you might as well just burn the constitution while you're at it. While burning the flag of your own country is in most circumstances a petty, entitled action a better course of action would be to make your country good enough so that no one wants to burn its flag, rather than make flag burning illegal. Because burning a flag improves a country? No. If you want change you have to be practical. If you're electing people who aren't doing what you want them do then vote for someone else. If nobody is doing what you want them to, even after voting them in, then try to inspire this change yourself. Sure banning such an action is impractical, but so is the action itself. |
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| I wonder how many people supporting a ban on U.S flag burning congratulate people for burning ISIS flags and the Quran? I bet it's quite a lot. Before I get strawmanned once again, I do think that burning the ISIS flag and copies of the quran should be legal (burning ANY flag should be legal, the point where I draw the line is politically-motivated mass book burning). |
Comic_Sans said: >Expecting your average Trump supporting internet warrior to be logically consistent exactly lol talking with trump supporters = losing some brain cells |
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Fuchsia said: Lobinde said: Of course. I didn't say otherwise. But it's what it represents. You can't possibly say a flag doesn't represent the country. That's its whole purpose. And those freedoms are not contained inside a piece of cloth. If you make burning the U.S flag illegal, you might as well just burn the constitution while you're at it. While burning the flag of your own country is in most circumstances a petty, entitled action a better course of action would be to make your country good enough so that no one wants to burn its flag, rather than make flag burning illegal. Because burning a flag improves a country? No. If you want change you have to be practical. If you're electing people who aren't doing what you want them do then vote for someone else. If nobody is doing what you want them to, even after voting them in, then try to inspire this change yourself. Sure banning such an action is impractical, but so is the action itself. I don't think I implied that burning a flag improves a country. What I will say though is that being allowed to burn the flag of your country is an improvement over not being allowed to burn the flag of your country. |
Lobinde said: Fuchsia said: Of course. I didn't say otherwise. But it's what it represents. You can't possibly say a flag doesn't represent the country. That's its whole purpose. Because burning a flag improves a country? No. If you want change you have to be practical. If you're electing people who aren't doing what you want them do then vote for someone else. If nobody is doing what you want them to, even after voting them in, then try to inspire this change yourself. Sure banning such an action is impractical, but so is the action itself. I don't think I implied that burning a flag improves a country. What I will say though is that being allowed to burn the flag of your country is an improvement over not being allowed to burn the flag of your country. Simply having the right to do something, albeit not purposeful, is not an improvement. Simply having the right to kill someone that offends you, is an improvement of not having the right to kill someone that offends you. Right? Do you now see the irony of your statement? |
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| @Fuchsia The difference between burning a flag and killing someone is that the former harms no-one. |
Fuchsia said: Lobinde said: I don't think I implied that burning a flag improves a country. What I will say though is that being allowed to burn the flag of your country is an improvement over not being allowed to burn the flag of your country. Simply having the right to do something, albeit not purposeful, is not an improvement. Simply having the right to kill someone that offends you, is an improvement of not having the right to kill someone that offends you. Right? Do you now see the irony of your statement? Yes it's easy for my statement to be ironic when you frame it against some extreme hypothetical. |
Syndromic said: @JustALEX Stop with the melodrama, you dumb fuck. It's not a death sentence he's proposing here. And beside this is not some new proposal. hence why i said hilary is right wing |
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CondemneDio said: I mean, true. But I could just as easily compare it with something that doesn't involve physical harm to someone, and the same would apply.@Fuchsia The difference between burning a flag and killing someone is that the former harms no-one. |
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Fuchsia said: CondemneDio said: I mean, true. But I could just as easily compare it with something that doesn't involve physical harm to someone, and the same would apply.@Fuchsia The difference between burning a flag and killing someone is that the former harms no-one. Do go on. I am actually curious if you find a good comparison. The freedom to do things instead of being told not to do them should be every 'Muricans wet dream, after all. |
Fuchsia said: CondemneDio said: I mean, true. But I could just as easily compare it with something that doesn't involve physical harm to someone, and the same would apply.@Fuchsia The difference between burning a flag and killing someone is that the former harms no-one. Then why didn't you compare it with another "victimless crime"? |
DateYutaka said: It's not even a partisan isssue. The updated link shows both republican and democrat senates proposed it.Syndromic said: @JustALEX Stop with the melodrama, you dumb fuck. It's not a death sentence he's proposing here. And beside this is not some new proposal. hence why i said hilary is right wing |
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CondemneDio said: Fuchsia said: I mean, true. But I could just as easily compare it with something that doesn't involve physical harm to someone, and the same would apply. Do go on. I am actually curious if you find a good comparison. The freedom to do things instead of being told not to do them should be every 'Muricans wet dream, after all. For example slander. Sure, it'd be nice to have the right to slander someone, but is it really necessary? And is it practical? Of course slander is already illegal, but lobinde was referring to simply having the right to do something, regardless of the practicality of the action. |
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Fuchsia said: CondemneDio said: Do go on. I am actually curious if you find a good comparison. The freedom to do things instead of being told not to do them should be every 'Muricans wet dream, after all. For example slander. Sure, it'd be nice to have the right to slander someone, but is it really necessary? And is it practical? Of course slander is already illegal, but lobinde was referring to simply having the right to do something, regardless of the practicality of the action. Slander is not a victimless crime. It is not practical nor necessary to have the right to do it (in the broad sense), since it hurts people. Try with another example, that contains no physical or verbal violence. |
Syndromic said: It's not even a partisan isssue. The updated link shows both republican and democrat senates proposed it. irght and left is not paitsan in the us |
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CondemneDio said: It doesn't hurt people physically. It may affect people, but not harm them. But what you said about it not being practical nor necessary is basically my point, if you bothered to read my posts. Regardless, i'm tired :xFuchsia said: For example slander. Sure, it'd be nice to have the right to slander someone, but is it really necessary? And is it practical? Of course slander is already illegal, but lobinde was referring to simply having the right to do something, regardless of the practicality of the action. Slander is not a victimless crime. It is not practical nor necessary to have the right to do it (in the broad sense), since it hurts people. Try with another example, that contains no physical or verbal violence. |
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Fuchsia said: CondemneDio said: It doesn't hurt people physically. It may affect people, but not harm them. But what you said about it not being practical nor necessary is basically my point, if you bothered to read my posts.Slander is not a victimless crime. It is not practical nor necessary to have the right to do it (in the broad sense), since it hurts people. Try with another example, that contains no physical or verbal violence. It does harm people though. An example: person A spreads rumors that person B is a pedophile. Person B is proven not to be guilty, yet his reputation has taken a hit from the whole ordeal. As I said, it is verbal violence, or maybe social violence. Now, look me in the eye and tell me that burning a flag hurts you physically :D |
CondemneDio said: Fuchsia said: It doesn't hurt people physically. It may affect people, but not harm them. But what you said about it not being practical nor necessary is basically my point, if you bothered to read my posts. It does harm people though. An example: person A spreads rumors that person B is a pedophile. Person B is proven not to be guilty, yet his reputation has taken a hit from the whole ordeal. As I said, it is verbal violence, or maybe social violence. Now, look me in the eye and tell me that burning a flag hurts you physically :D I didn't know someones reputation was equivalent to their well being, especially if not found guilty. My whole point was that burning a flag solves nothing, and there are other/more effective ways to bring about some form of change if you're not happy with your country. Now let me sleep pls ;-; |
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