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Jan 17, 2018 5:59 PM
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I'm not disappointed. I'm pretty happy until now.
Jan 17, 2018 6:26 PM

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Alexandep said:
Aerchan said:
or that they're step siblings

I don't see any problem here. It's pseudo-incest.
They are basically complete strangers to each other, not real family members.

Here's the real problem though.

'Yuri' is not a literary genre in a traditional sense. It simply is a colletion of narrative tropes about female homosexual/homoromantic relationships. 'Drama' is, however. If one of the main female characters (Mei or Yuzu) would be a man, everyone would be screaming about how Citrus is one of the cheesiest (in the worst way imaginable) and overrated romance stories in the history of romance manga and anime, with boring-ass one-dimensional character interactions and overblown conflicts.

But if it's yuri, then it suddenly becomes acceptable for some reason, because "your expectations are too high, calm down", "YAY, GAYYY GRILLS IN ANIME" and etc. This is the mindset that bothers me very much. People are so blinded by their thirst for 'gay girls like me' or 'hawt lesbian action' in anime, that they almost don't realize, that if one would strip Citrus of yuri tropes, it will become an empty shell. It is an empty shell.

I perfectly understand why it's Citrus and not any other yuri manga - because it's pretty freaking popular right now at this moment of history, that's why. Any adaptation needs to be commercially successful. But it still pains me deep in my heart. There's so much truly unique yuri manga, yet instead they are adapting...this.

And if someone wants to talk about how there's not enough queer women in anime, then I'd add that Citrus is clearly not the best story in terms of representation of a healthy relationship. It's basically just another cliche romance drama that starts from abuse, when one of the future partners acts like a complete asshole and another one falls for him/her for random reasons, usually because the author is completely oblivious to the concept of "character motivation".
Alexandep said:
Aerchan said:
or that they're step siblings

I don't see any problem here. It's pseudo-incest.
They are basically complete strangers to each other, not real family members.

Here's the real problem though.

'Yuri' is not a literary genre in a traditional sense. It simply is a colletion of narrative tropes about female homosexual/homoromantic relationships. 'Drama' is, however. If one of the main female characters (Mei or Yuzu) would be a man, everyone would be screaming about how Citrus is one of the cheesiest (in the worst way imaginable) and overrated romance stories in the history of romance manga and anime, with boring-ass one-dimensional character interactions and overblown conflicts.

But if it's yuri, then it suddenly becomes acceptable for some reason, because "your expectations are too high, calm down", "YAY, GAYYY GRILLS IN ANIME" and etc. This is the mindset that bothers me very much. People are so blinded by their thirst for 'gay girls like me' or 'hawt lesbian action' in anime, that they almost don't realize, that if one would strip Citrus of yuri tropes, it will become an empty shell. It is an empty shell.

I perfectly understand why it's Citrus and not any other yuri manga - because it's pretty freaking popular right now at this moment of history, that's why. Any adaptation needs to be commercially successful. But it still pains me deep in my heart. There's so much truly unique yuri manga, yet instead they are adapting...this.

And if someone wants to talk about how there's not enough queer women in anime, then I'd add that Citrus is clearly not the best story in terms of representation of a healthy relationship. It's basically just another cliche romance drama that starts from abuse, when one of the future partners acts like a complete asshole and another one falls for him/her for random reasons, usually because the author is completely oblivious to the concept of "character motivation".
You're right. All the yuri hentai should be the ones to be animated. Their sole character motivation is to fuck and I think that's a great motivation.
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Jan 17, 2018 6:29 PM

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Ah I fucked up with the quotes shit.
Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists.
Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance
Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo
Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud
https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a
Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime.
My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews
Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1
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Jan 21, 2018 8:14 PM
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2 minutes into the show and already disappointed. tho it's personal preference since I don't tend to like normie-esque romance anime. show seems high quality animation-wise.

gonna update after watching 3 episodes.

update:
plot is terrible. almost too convenient for progression's sake. lazy writing.
that said, I will still watch this. fuck my life
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Jan 22, 2018 1:50 AM

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Well I am disapointed but it's probably my own mistake because I though this would be better and deeper, not your typical romance bullshit just with two girls
I wanted to try shoujo-ai for the first time, I do not have any kind of problem with woman/woman relantionship but like I said the romance is cheesy, plot doesn't make a sense most of the time etc. etc.
At least art is amazing and I do really like Yuzu she is very well made character, maybe too good for such cheesy over-dramatic romance
I always got baited thinking this might be a good romance anime but nope, haven't seen anything like that for very long time
Jan 22, 2018 2:06 AM

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I am not disappointed at all. I laahhhhvvv yuri <3
Jan 22, 2018 6:03 AM

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wrong, my first reaction was "I'm appointed to see this and will watch it", so far nothing tempts me to drop it.
Jan 22, 2018 6:49 AM

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personally, i loved the manga and was thrilled to hear it was being turned into an anime adaption. It's definitely not the best manga out there but it's pretty good for a yuri/shoujo ai story (because most of them have NO story)
Jan 27, 2018 12:40 AM
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i just read the manga, it's a terribly written messy, corny, cheesy 3rd rate korean telenovela melodrama (a lot of kisses at least)

see you in few years (if it's not cancelled of course)

yes @ this is your little sister
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Jan 28, 2018 2:42 AM

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I am not disappointed, I like the manga and the anime is good (NTR quality was not so good). It's like any other romance manga, the difference it's that in the straight one the market is bigger so they run for a long time and in monthly release, so the drama comes in long waits, Citrus turned monthly few months ago, so the drama needs to be always there, but there was some volumes that we see the progress too...
Dec 24, 2023 8:15 PM

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So everything above was written before I even read OP's post (I know BBCode, so I wrote everything in a regular text editor ahead of time), as I saw the post title on the forum, and thought that it'd be fun to see what my opinions started as, without any external influences. Now for the part that I started writing after I finished the anime, and after I read the actual post.



Also, I screwed up somewhere with the BBCode, so there's two episode 6's, and I don't know which is which anymore.
Daviljoe193Dec 24, 2023 8:20 PM
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