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kitten320 said: IMACOP said: He's dead the moment he overheard it. There never was a chance for him. The enemy will do anything to get the info out of him, then get rid of him, and his country will make sure he dies, for knowing. He won't be spared even if he didn't or won't talk. Also, making sure that your target knows that he have a few minutes to live, is a very good way of making him talk. The family hostage thingy is bonus. Plus it's pretty clear to everyone that he isn't the type to die for his country. That's the problem. Enemy would never know he knows something if he never ever mentioned it. But the first thing Jonas does is say he knows big secret about Izetta and to a spy of all people. This is what made Sieg act in a rush and end it before more was revealed. Otherwise Jonas could still be under observation. Sieg only acted after he was told situation is serious. Jonas big mouth is what ended him. I doubt he'll be placed under observation, unless they want to use him to smoke out spies. In this case, as far as national security is concerned: possible secret leaked, suspect Jonas, in same unit with a confirmed spy. That's all the reason to end him. The issue isn't about whether he may or may not talk, have or haven't said anything, it's the possibility of Jonas knowing the secret. Duri1n said: Dress and Pie scenes were just cringeworthy... Actually, I find most Izetta/Fine scenes a bit cringeworthy... I miss the gutsy and serious Fine from episode 1... Otherwise, I do like everything that's going on behind the scenes. Especially everything to do with Germania's attempt to find out more about Izetta and ways to beat her. IMACOP said: There's absolutely no reason to leave him alive. He's a liability. I'd say there's a little hope for Jonas? Not very much, thankfully, but still a tiny possibility. The way I see it, Sieg spending time to ask Jonas about whether he'd do anything for his country was a way to gauge whether Jonas was suited for spywork - Sieg's line of business. Basically a recruitment question. The shot fired could've been directed to the ground next to Jonas. What better spy than one that's been 'killed' in front of a Germanian spy? Just a possible theory. Possible, yes. But that'll be in conflict with Sieg's character that the story is trying to portray. Then again, the story tried to show him as the smart, cunning one but made him talk about a big secret out loud in the open, so... |
IMACOPNov 6, 2016 3:37 PM
| Omae wa mou bakuhatsu desu! |
| Very surprised Seig shot Jonas... Buildup episode for sure though. |
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Psykofreac said: So half the series is gone now, how do you think it can still get good? lol They should go full battle mode for the next episodes, they have a new toy for that, the plane, cos' the more story telling we get from them the more we laugh. The first seconds of this episode were gold : " _ what's up Jonas? _ Damn! I've just learnt an INCREDIBLE secret about Izetta, our super warrior bi... ahm, witch, who can defeat alone an army, the key to our survival .... but, eyh! I won't tell cos' I just wanted to tease you in case you're a spy ;) By the way, want some water? I just brought some from the river where my family's photo fell into the water, was brought away by the stream, then caught by some branches, conveniently not far away from the place in the open where I could casually hear the general and this high ranking Eylstadt official very loudly shouting that Izetta had no power in the mountains where the last battle occured .. uupss! you didn't hear, did you? " Epilogue : Dead. Maybe. And to those claiming that Fine is just too perfect to be a good character, here the answer in episode 6: no very very big boobs! and a complex with it on top of that! Ah! You never thought about that one, did you? If that's not a major failure for a queen in an anime, I don't know. Just joking :) Furthermore, since the fan-service is no problem in this war context, why no "Shokugeki no souma" food orgasm with the pie? I mean, we could have had a little nude scene with 4 girls in one shot! There was a loly on top of that! Too bad! I wonder now if the show is not taking the direction : so bad that it becomes good. hope for more great plot developments. At least I laughed. Waiting for a Jesus Black Wizard to slaughter that b... the witch! I mean the witch! |
Ysad_ZiwezhanNov 6, 2016 3:46 PM
| I mean I know why they killed Jonas. But I thought 100% that he was going to be an important character. He had a name. He had been at two battles with her now. Then he gets shot and I was all like T.T and D:. Also still fully under the impression Elliot is a Wizard thought that since I saw him and still think it. |
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| RIP Jonas. He should have been more careful. I wasn't expecting Sieg to kill him though. He is willing to get his hands dirty to save his country. |
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| Sad day for Jonas. If he just kept his mouth shut. Lol. Trying to fit the corset on Izetta was funny and Fine was...shock. |
Alhakam said: Its not acceptable that Sieg killed Jonas, he could put him in highly secure place where he can't speak with anyone until the end of the war, you just can't kill a person who risks his life for his country like this. It was totally acceptable. They can't lock him up until after the war. The secret needs to be kept until his grave. And as you can see from this episode he can't keep secrets. He should've kept his mouth shut right after the river. Bring attention to himself was his biggest failure. |
WhaleCostume said: Alhakam said: Its not acceptable that Sieg killed Jonas, he could put him in highly secure place where he can't speak with anyone until the end of the war, you just can't kill a person who risks his life for his country like this. It was totally acceptable. They can't lock him up until after the war. The secret needs to be kept until his grave. And as you can see from this episode he can't keep secrets. He should've kept his mouth shut right after the river. Bring attention to himself was his biggest failure. They find about him from a picture that he dropped not Becuse he said anything and he didn't want to say anything even for his own life until the spy threatened to kill his family and most people will speak then and of course they can lock him like intelligence always do. when human accept killing one innocent man for the country next time they will accept killing a whole city. and they whole plot was dumb from the first place,I thought it was a weak writing that they wanted the german to know about the secret by speaking about it in the "open" like this but no what the point then maybe to show that they will do anything for their country by killing a person that fight for their country really, just imagine that you be killed Becuse you heard a secret by mistake from a drank high offical for example And being drunk is better excuse then speaking like that in the open. |
AlhakamNov 7, 2016 2:43 AM
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| Ahh Jonas... We knew you so little. |
| Hoping they put in more of the dark stuff and less of the funny moe/yuri stuff. If it turns out that guy ain't dead next episode, they better have a very good reason for it or I'm going to lose a lot of respect for this show. |
LMAO. OK, that's funny. They just copy pasted this article. |
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| i swear to god if they pull out a 'lolz jonas isnt ded i was just testing'... what Sieg did was the only good option. I hope Jonas stays dead. Anyway, so far the first half of the anime is a 6/10. |
DatRandomDudeNov 7, 2016 4:55 PM
STOP SLEEPING ON ODD TAXI |
| Didn't laugh at the corset scene. http://www.forbes.com/sites/kristinakillgrove/2015/11/16/how-corsets-deformed-the-skeletons-of-victorian-women/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corset_controversy etc. |
froggy25Nov 8, 2016 4:52 AM
| Poor Fine-sama.... She is the archduchess of her castle, she has many people to support her but she's not blessed..... -In order to save their country from invaders they need the Power of Yuri. The power of convenient yuri can save a country |
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| That was about the stupidest way they could have handled PVT Jonas. They have complete control of the state and military, so they don't need to be secretive about it. Just transfer him to be a guard at the royal castle, and don't allow him to leave until the war is over. He's under close watch, he still serves his country, and he doesn't need to die. I also don't know why they didn't go for the Germanian spy when they first learned he was there. |
| I don't think that he died, imo he felt as a character that had a bigger role and more appearances than just 6 episodes. Sure we saw him shooting at his direction but we did not see whether it actually hit him or not. Maybe he will turn into a spy for them. |
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| I'm really struggling with this anime. I enjoyed the first few episodes and then it all went downhill. It feels like it's being produced by two different teams who don't speak to each other. One wants to do a fantasy-Europe SoL with some light fan service, the other one wants to do an alternative time line fantasy war drama. And then they just stuck both bits together. The boobs/dance/corset scenes all seemed a bit pointless. The cafe scene might have been a nice touch, but it seemed a million miles away from the Fine we saw in ep. 1. When they did remember that there's supposed to be a war on, it got a bit better. But sending Izetta to Britain seems a stupid move (sure, move your best weapon to another country). In the first episodes Germania felt like a real, invincible threat, but that's just not coming through anymore. The ending might have had more impact if they'd have given Jonas a personality instead of just being a stupid plot point that went nowhere. I'm 5/10 with this series at the moment. Disappointed. |
| It's actually not being that bad at all, in my humble and personal opinion. Sure, the characters are mostly uninteresting and the fanservice and animation are dog shit, but all the rest is being pretty okay. I like the war environment, Fine's ambition to protect her people and I find Izetta to be a sweetheart. I hope there aren't more filler episodes, though. |
| Everyone last episode (including me): "Man Jonas is going to ruin everything" Everone this episode: "Oh" The fanservice shots are too much That painting in the council room looks like a Rembrandt self portrait |
| damn did he have to kill him D: just take him into custody or something... |
| Jonas, you fool, why did you have to run around yelling you know Izettas secret? Can't really blame Sieg, this is what intelligence services have been doing for centuries to keep their secrets. He's just doing his job. The Emperors letter had some surprisingly accurate German in it. Fines overconfidence will be her downfall if she doesn't start to be more careful. |
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| So Jonas would have spilled the beans, risking the fate of the entire country (including his own family). Glad he got shot. I guess the show needs some breather episodes like this so they can blow the budget on decent action scenes down the line. |
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| There goes Jonas...Sieg is ruthless and I still don't trust him. |
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| As someone said above "A calm before the storm, I would say", and i totally agree. It seems that the Germans are creating their own witch and now they know Izetta's weakness. |
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| Was completely surprised they killed Jonas. Just the way the kept using him in the previous episodes, he was like that one useless side character who was used as the one memorable face in the army who got to experience the war in it's entirety while being your everyday nobody. I expected him to be the one who lasted through all of the battles, and in the end would be the one useless side character who makes some tide-turning heroic decision that ends up saving the day for the main characters. At the same time, he did get shot in the artery. I doubt Sieg would've bothered to save him even if he wasn't there to kill him. Also, between that kill and his words about doing whatever it takes to protect the country, it really makes me question him now. From the way he said it, sounds like he'd sacrifice ANYTHING to protect the country. I think if it came down to it, he'd even consider killing Fine (for whatever the reason would be) all for the name of Elsytadt. xSkipi said: I hope there will not be fan service for the remaining episodes, bra size problems ... kinda overused imo If you seriously got triggered by "fanservice" so mild it was basically baking flour, and was played off as a military pun, then you should probably stop watching anime, take a journey to some isolated location in the mountains and reevaluate most of your life choices. |
Germania is upgrading...  Horten Ho 229  Pz.IV (right); Tiger I (left)... Time to kick out those Pz.III's they've been using until now. |
GenesisAriaNov 15, 2016 1:34 AM
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| Jonas should have been imprisoned for the duration of the war to ensure the secret. Not be murdered! RIP, you poor baby. |
| Izetta's too boobilicious for that dress :( That's okay. I prefer her red dress more. I'm lapping up all the yuri moments between all the gorgeous female characters. I just can't get enough. <3 RIP Jonas :( |
| 臭い- |
| >fucks up by deliberating talking about the secret in a not-so-private location >kills the boy who accidentally gossiped in their secret this is why I precisely refuse to be an adult. it is bullshit and there's a reason why adult is the root word of adultery and un/adulterated. and children are made to suffer from this. tell me again why I should save the "white race" bullshit. the world can burn for all I care. I really really wish the anime will make him pay for his stupidity, fuckery and ultimately making children suffer from his fuckups. |
kidlat020Nov 17, 2016 5:02 AM
| >I had no brain when I was 12 >Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12 >I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12 >Therefore children cannot consent This is what science has done to humanity. |
| I cannot believe how STUPIDILY so many of the characters acted in this episode (and at the end of Ep 5). -The top ranking General and the head Spy are both blabbing the highest State secrets out in the middle of the woods where anyone walking by could hear them. -The Archduchess, who is so calm, freaks out in the café just because the owners and Royal Guard admitted they always knew she used to sneak out of the Palace -Worried about an Intelligence leak to the enemy, when they identify Private Jonas' platoon, rather than ordering it to relocate to a safe rear area taking it away from proximity to the enemy and limit the spy's ability to communicate with his superiors, they leave it on the front lines and go out there and shoot the poor kid. And without even first ascertaining if he'd actually told anyone else what he had learned about Izetta. These morons deserve to lose the war. |
| The sword that takes life gives life |
| That had to have been the shitiest spy I've ever seen lol. While most of the episode was a bore-fest it's endings like that that keep me coming back next week |
| God, I'm so happy he killed that idiot. It somewhat saved the episode for me, way too much fanservice. I'm surprised Jonas didn't scream when he got back to the camp: HEY COCKSUCKERS, WE GOT FUCKING RIGGED. THAT BITCH IS A SCAM. |
| [Chyuu] slowly catching-up! Baked pie sweets are what Finé wants! and even made a commotion on the café because of their useless disguise! Private Jonas is a fodder too bad! 4/5. |
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GenesisAria said: Pz.IV (right); Tiger I (left)... Time to kick out those Pz.III's they've been using until now. They use Pz.IV already, but early modification of them. But what I see its Pz.IV with Panther turret - weird stuff. |
OllleksaDec 1, 2016 11:05 PM
Ollleksa said: Uh, no, what they weer using in pretty much everything i could recall is Pz.III variations, unless there's a scene i overlooked.They use Pz.IV already, but early modification of them. But what I see its Pz.IV with Panther turret - weird stuff. |
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
GenesisAria said: Ollleksa said: Uh, no, what they weer using in pretty much everything i could recall is Pz.III variations, unless there's a scene i overlooked.They use Pz.IV already, but early modification of them. But what I see its Pz.IV with Panther turret - weird stuff.  3 episode, near 9:15 time. There was plenty of Pz.4 C/D, but when Izetta attack, they all disappear. |
OllleksaDec 2, 2016 6:20 AM
| a secret has be silencied, by the death!!! :( |
| Good idea, have the witch leave the country. Perfect time to attack! At least the pie was tasty. |
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