| Hi! I have no point I just want to hear your opinion about shonen made by women. Lets start with facts : I am a girl, I love shonen, seinen, shojo, josei, sol, comedy...mostly anykind. I realized recently that all the shonen I loved the most (Pandora Hearts, Inuyasha, Noragami) where made by women and were shonen. Itself it means nothing, but then I wondered why I loved them and I guess its because of the way the relations between the characters are portrayed. Most of the time in these, its beyond friendship or love, its attachment and a deep bond. (Im not talking about seinen, but about usual shonen) (Maybe I couldve added FMA there too? From what Ive heard it seems I could but since i haven't read/watched it myself I won't) I haven't found that kind of relation in many other shonen and its turns out to be those ones : is it just a coincidence? Have you noticed a link between if the authors is a man or a women, and how it influences the manga? Of course it does, but I mean a caracterisitc beyond shojo/shonen and that could work for any genre of manga no matter what it is. Its also interesting to see that in the manga Ive quoted the readers are not only guys (since its shonen and that lets face it there is shonen explicitly made for guys, some arent but some are, and those that Ive quoted and made by women aren't : is it just a coincidence? I don't really have an opinion about the questions I'm asking you, I just really wanna know what you think about it. Thank you! |
AmyltiaNov 5, 2016 2:51 PM
| I think Ao No Exorcist is written by a woman |
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gracey781 said: I think Ao No Exorcist is written by a woman And do you think its different from other shonen (and that it could be related to that)? |
| I'm pretty sure Hikaru No Go was written by a woman. I can't say if it's all that different from other series (besides not being centered around action/fighting) since I mostly read seinen. |
Amyltia said: gracey781 said: I think Ao No Exorcist is written by a woman And do you think its different from other shonen (and that it could be related to that)? Yeah, it is written by a woman, and she knows her fans are mostly women. It shows in the way the the character system is structured and in the designs. Personally, I think that what sets female authors apart is that for them relationships, not necessary love, are the most important, and these relationships must create context for action. Men can enjoy action for the sake of action more often, for women psychological meaning of actions must be present. Interestingly, it doesn't help female characters. Btw, I suppose you talk about traditional battle shonen, because there're different types, aren't they? I wouldn't put Noragami together with Naruto, for example. Ao no Exorcist offers material for incest shipping, while it's not in the story itself at all, it has love and complex character relationships. Later it has also become bolder with female-oriented fanservice. Kekkaishi is of the same breed - a battle shonen with good cast and emotional issues. |
| Yamada and the Seven Witches is written by a female author. |
| Magi's written by a female author and it's my fave manga. |
| It usually has less hotblooded and less passionate characters. |
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| Katekyo Hitman Reborn,D.Gray Man |
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| Some Shonen series i know that written by woman : - Fullmetal Alchemist - Katekyou Hitman Reborn - Magi : the Labyrinth of Magic - D.Gray Man |
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gracey781 said: Oh, that explains why the illustrations and characters looks so girly.I think Ao No Exorcist is written by a woman RiceLover said: Yes, this is the best one I can think of, because she really knows "that" stuff.Yamada and the Seven Witches is written by a female author. |
RayzerNov 6, 2016 11:40 PM
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gracey781 said: I think that what sets female authors apart is that for them relationships, not necessary love, are the most important, and these relationships must create context for action. Men can enjoy action for the sake of action more often, for women psychological meaning of actions must be present. I agree that there is a stronger emphasis on character building through relationships in manga written by women. But is this necessarily because they know their audience is mostly female? I would be curious to see MAL breakdown what manga are read my male/female users to see if readers are drawn content written by their gender. I can imagine Naruto having a much higher male readership than Inuyasha, but Full Metal Alchemist, Magi, and Ao no Exorcist are interesting middle grounds. |
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| I actually do think women make the best shonen manga. Hikaru no Go, Kekkaishi, Magi, Blue Exorcist, I didn't even realize Noragami was a team of two women, but yeah, I overall do prefer shonen manga written by women. And yes, I do think the characters are usually just better. They also sometimes make really manly shojo to the point where it might as well be shonen. That's where Banana Fish and Basara come in, if you need more "shonen by women" but have run short on the "shonen" part. I do still enjoy shonen made by men too though, Firefighter Daigo is one of my favorite manga period. But it's really an action series with minimal character development, so maybe that's part of why it works so well (that and the action is amazingly drawn). |
LouM said: Katekyo Hitman Reborn,D.Gray Man I was going to recommend these exact two lol. |
| You can easily tell D. Gray Man is written by a woman. Mostly because of how the characters behave (and I think the fact she makes the boys wear very tight clothes is some kind of fan service... Not really a fan of this honestly, but the stroy is great!!!) Now to answer OP's question, Fullmetal Alchemist, Katekyo Hitman Reborn and Kekkaishi feel exactly the same way than the mangas written by men, wether it is in terms of action or personality of the characters. |
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| hello hello hello sorry to blast into the past here but i got a few two cents ig I too am a girl who doesn't mind some shonen and seinen and shoujo and a lil bit of josei manga. I don't think I read that many shonen manga, but one of the few shonen manga I actually finished and liked is Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle. And that manga was made by CLAMP, which is a pretty much all-female mangaka group best known for classics like Cardcaptor Sakura and Chobits (which I didn't read but I've definitely heard a lot about). I can't say the authors being female actually influenced Tsubasa in a way that makes it a more distinct shonen though. Yeah, some part of the manga is definitely different (especially in the later volumes), but I doubt the authors' gender played a part of that different taste. I have read a few other shonen like Bleach and My Hero Academia, and I don't feel that much of a difference like how you described between Tsubasa and series like these examples. I honestly haven't thought about something like this before |
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Veneficia said: Damn, 3+ years and no one mentioned rumiko? Ranma 1/2 and inuyasha, babies. More so inuyasha. OP literally mentioned Inuyasha: Amyltia said: I have no point I just want to hear your opinion about shonen made by women. Lets start with facts : I am a girl, I love shonen, seinen, shojo, josei, sol, comedy...mostly anykind. I realized recently that all the shonen I loved the most (Pandora Hearts, Inuyasha, Noragami) where made by women and were shonen. |
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| Kimetsu no Yaiba is another shonen made by a woman i heard and its great |
Amyltia said: Hi! I have no point I just want to hear your opinion about shonen made by women. Lets start with facts : I am a girl, I love shonen, seinen, shojo, josei, sol, comedy...mostly anykind. I realized recently that all the shonen I loved the most (Pandora Hearts, Inuyasha, Noragami) where made by women and were shonen. Itself it means nothing, but then I wondered why I loved them and I guess its because of the way the relations between the characters are portrayed. Most of the time in these, its beyond friendship or love, its attachment and a deep bond. (Im not talking about seinen, but about usual shonen) (Maybe I couldve added FMA there too? From what Ive heard it seems I could but since i haven't read/watched it myself I won't) I haven't found that kind of relation in many other shonen and its turns out to be those ones : is it just a coincidence? Have you noticed a link between if the authors is a man or a women, and how it influences the manga? Of course it does, but I mean a caracterisitc beyond shojo/shonen and that could work for any genre of manga no matter what it is. Its also interesting to see that in the manga Ive quoted the readers are not only guys (since its shonen and that lets face it there is shonen explicitly made for guys, some arent but some are, and those that Ive quoted and made by women aren't : is it just a coincidence? I don't really have an opinion about the questions I'm asking you, I just really wanna know what you think about it. Thank you! https://myanimelist.net/anime/38000/Kimetsu_no_Yaiba was written and drawn by female mangaka, Koyoharu Gotouge also if you're a girl, i recommend you to read https://myanimelist.net/manga/112115/Act-age. Yes the author is male (the artist is female though) but it feel like a shojo manga that have shonen elemen in that, especially because the MC is female. Same as The Promised Neverland (male author, female artist) https://myanimelist.net/manga/100128/Yakusoku_no_Neverland, but it feel more shonen despite have female MC. |
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| Shonen works by female authors seem to have more pretty boys and personal stories. If that is to your liking, then you'll likely enjoy it more. |
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| Switch: a shonen made by two women, Saiyuki : the author is woman, the first series was a shonen before switching to josei magazine. |
| Demon Slayer Kimetsu no Yaiba is written and illustrated by Koyoharu Gotouge, a women and it's honestly one of the best shonen out right now! |
| Be happy with what you have to be happy with |
| Pandora Hearts still has that shoujo vibes and that put me off. FMA is my all time favorite shonen manga. |
| I think there's something in it, but I never deeply checked that out. I must say I was a bit surprised Rurouni Kenshin was written by a male mangaka. |
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Amyltia said: So, are you talking about the target demographic or mean you merely magical boy as a genre: as in the genre with a male protagonist action hero with superhuman powers — be it alchemy, ki-manipulation, or turning into a Titan — of some sorts?(Im not talking about seinen, but about usual shonen) I generally feel that more often than not the best authors are the ones that write outside of their own gender demographic with the best syouzyo also written by male authors. This is I assume because ere an author get published he has already shown that he can do the usual things. So a female author writing for a male demographic by default can typically already do the usual "boy things" right but often the male authors lack in the "girl things" which the female author often does not. It's of course hardly an absolute rule: I would, when pressed, have guessed the authors of Lotte's Toy and Monthly Girls' Nozaki-Kun to have been female and male respectively but that was not the case. Quite often when fan-servicy stuff is made for a male demographic it lacks in præsentable, or interesting male characters but with Lotte that was not the case. Also: this "women authors" neologism is vile and needs to stop: the correct English form is, and has always been "female authors"; "women authors" is ridiculous: adjunct nouns in English do not pluralize along with their head noun; at the very best it's "woman authors" and even that sounds silly and absurd. The English word "woman" is not an adjective and when used as an adjunct describes a patient. |
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| Shounen (some) written by female authors tend to be shoujoish. You can still see some elements that are usually in shoujo. Lots of bishounen characters, BL undertones, reverse harem vibes, normal female x supernatural male etc. The author of Good Ending, Ichigo 100% and Yamada-kun and the Seven Witches are female too but their story are very shounen although you can still notice the art style were drawn by a female. And imo Seinen written by a female is better than shounen written by a female. |
| as far as i know the only female mangaka who makes seinen,horror or shounen in a different way is hayashida otherwise you can easily tell the difference between shounen written by male and female as others have pointed out before me |
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