So.... Who's feeling sad about Bulbasaur?

ZeraX said:
Despite being #001 in the pokedex
Despite being the canon starter for Red
Despite being one of most popular and iconic pokemon worldwide
Despite being the most pokemon with screen time behind Pikachu and Meowth in Anime show
Despite being one of the best starters

They made him appear only as a TV image in this OVA......

DanyyelTR said:
They could have put in a Leaf cameo with Bulbasaur :P

Pokéspe is not canon to the games so that means nothing.

ZeraX said:


Origins is not canon to the games either, There were many differences and on top of that the mega evolution.

Bulbasaur wasn't Red's starter in Poke special only, it was his pokemon in promotional artworks, Red/Green guidebook and two other mangas and in Generations as well. Bulbasaur has been with Red in many iterations than Charmander.

Red got Charmander only in Origins and 1 short manga.

Charmander was picked for Origins because it's more popular for worldwide release and seeing how the first episode was built upon overcoming Brock gym, Squirtle or Bulbasaur wouldn't make a drama and proper development for Red.

The funny thing is that it didn't do well in Japan, its rating was lower than the TV anime despite Charmander being the most popular there too, Perhaps why they used Bulbasaur again in Generations.

RKarim69f117 said:
Venusaur is lesser badass than charizard.

RKarim69f117 said:
Yeah I admit that I didn't finish the manga yet, but I dont think they would follow the manga storyline.I hope they make one very soon since Ash is getting older.

ZeraX said:


You don't need to finish the manga. The Red Chapter (first 40 chapters) is enough to see how badass Bulbasaur was.

For a quick refresh.

It defeated an enraged Machoke and buffed-up Gyarados with no scratches when it was just a fresh Pokemon out of Oak's lab.

Caught a Mew where others couldn't.

Defeated both Charmeleon (As a Bulbasaur) and Charizard without damage. It also absorbed Charmeleons's fire spin with its bulb to make a new attack out of it.

Won against a Super-charged Zapdos, Electrode and Magnemite as an Ivysaur! Dude, Ivysaur!!

Tenshi_Shura said:


Wow the manga looks like its overblown with asspulls. Is his Bulbasaur lvl 100?

ZeraX said:


During that Charmeleon it was around level 15, and at Zapdos event, it was around level 30s (The manga has levels, unlike anime)

But Bulbasaur isn't any less badass in the anime either.

It never evolved in the anime but was on par with fully evolved Pokemon like Charizard, Vileplume, Exeggutor and Meganium (both fainted because of long battle).

Also it defeated a Dusclops which defeated Charizard, and afterwards defeated a Solrock which defeated Squirtle.
In this single episode, Bulbasaur took several Fire and Psychic moves in two battles. He went into battle with Solrock in terrible shape after his battle with Dusclops (who landed direct hits with Fire moves). Solrock used Psychic moves against Bulbasaur which is also super effective on it. Successfully defeating both and fainting at the end.

Yeah, that's how badass Bulbasaur is. But the manga version is still far superior, i mean that thing eats Fire moves with its bulb and making pokemon like Zapdos and Charizard a total jokes!