| It's because people hate the prenotion of fanservice period. They immediately assume an anime to be bad even if it has a bit of fanservice. |
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| well, I enjoyed perverted humor, but not too much nudity and overused fan service. |
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| what u say makes sense. but all i care about is how they make use of the ecchi parts for the plots sake without it taking over the show completely |
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| The concept of 'Fanservice' and 'Done right' vary from person to person. By a dictionary-like definition, Fanservice is giving the people what they want, and Done-Right is basically doing the job it sets out to do. By a 'social' definition within the anime fandom/community/whatnot, Fanservice is TnA (or Moe, excess Gore, Fuijobait/Yuribait, or 'da feelz'), while Done-Right usually is tantamount to something having a high score for that person, regardless if there are actual understandable reasons for that. |
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| It's not that people hate nudity, but 90% of the time, fanservice are just a waste of precious frame and ultimately time. I mean, most(not all) people watch anime/read manga expecting a story not bouncing tiddies. If you want to see bouncing tiddies and such why go the half assed way and watch fanservic-y anime when you can just watch/read hentai or porn? Japan and their obsession of sexualized 2D girls on television smh. |
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| Because it's fanservice But fanservice in anime are 100x better than movie |
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Seqeitas-san said: It's not that people hate nudity, but 90% of the time, fanservice are just a waste of precious frame and ultimately time. Then you have the right to ignore that 90% and focus on the 10%... Quite easier to understand isn't it? InsaneLeader13 said: The concept of 'Fanservice' and 'Done right' vary from person to person.. If you ask feminist about this, they'll first ask you 'what kind of fanservice are you talking about?" HINT: Talk about manservice... For you to rub their good side first... guulaash said: what u say makes sense. but all i care about is how they make use of the ecchi parts for the plots sake without it taking over the show completely Lol... I believe you only have a small amount of anime that has probably no fanservice at all... Yo guys complains about fanservice, where it was in extreme, and complain about series that are 2DEEP4YOU... You don't like it, it's boring or whatnot... "Is there a way to please anyone in the world?" -unknown random dude Nexu said: It's because people hate the prenotion of fanservice period. They immediately assume an anime to be bad even if it has a bit of fanservice. Lol... Even if you ask say that a series has "mild" fanservice, they'll still think it as "extreme"... Well, I guess really depends in who watches the series, if you're giving that to a random 13 years-old... I'll get my ear plugs now... |
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_Ako_ said: Seqeitas-san said: It's not that people hate nudity, but 90% of the time, fanservice are just a waste of precious frame and ultimately time. Then you have the right to ignore that 90% and focus on the 10%... Quite easier to understand isn't it? uuh.. what? you mean you watch anime for the fanservice only? Why not watch Hentai/Porn instead? There are better alternative to jerk-off and fill your fantasy. |
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Seqeitas-san said: _Ako_ said: Then you have the right to ignore that 90% and focus on the 10%... Quite easier to understand isn't it? uuh.. what? you mean you watch anime for the fanservice only? Why not watch Hentai/Porn instead? There are better alternative to jerk-off and fill your fantasy. Ohh trust me, I fap to CGDCT and to doujin/original hentai DatRandomDude said: BECAUSE FAN SERVICE IS EVUUUUUUUUL Lol... I feel like 13 years-old would, probably say that... |
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HaXXspetten said: But yeah I guess the most general answer would be that fanservice is fine as long as it does not try to use its story as some sort of excuse to justify the presence of its fanservice. Aren't people perfectly fine with that tho? I mean OP mentionned Black Lagoon which is almost entirely fanservice with some random stories strapped to it. |
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| Oh would you look at that, another fan service topic. Does it really even matter? It's not like it really affects the story in anyway. Either shut up and enjoy your second of pleasure or ignore it. You'll probably forget it ever happened by the next fan service scene. |
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HaXXspetten said: I reckon people have different ideas of what "done right" is supposed to mean? But yeah I guess the most general answer would be that fanservice is fine as long as it does not 1) needlessly degrade the characters, 2) come off as extremely forced or even unrealistic, or 3) try to use its story as some sort of excuse to justify the presence of its fanservice; if you already know everyone is watching the show for the ecchi anyway then you shouldn't need to include a bunch of other stuff just to have some excuse in case the SJWs come after you Other than that it's fine I'd say 1. you sound like an SJW bruh... degrade characters? you cannot "degrade" a fictional character... theyre someones fantasy... they have no free will 2. it shouldn't come off as unrealistic? WTF? then what is the point of fiction? the only thing "forced" is my hand on my penis 3. why shouldn't a show with tons of fanservice have other important stuff in it? its not just the fanservice that makes the show, its can't be a show without the other stuff and the SJW's can all go fuck themselves |
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EcchiLordMamster said: Because people can't focus on anything else if it has fan service, it either must be a pure fan service show or have none of it, and if it does have any then it's for some reason that relates to neckbeards, virginity, or viewers intelligence (or lack thereof).3. why shouldn't a show with tons of fanservice have other important stuff in it? its not just the fanservice that makes the show, its can't be a show without the other stuff |
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merryfistmas said: EcchiLordMamster said: Because people can't focus on anything else if it has fan service, it either must be a pure fan service show or have none of it, and if it does have any then it's for some reason that relates to neckbeards, virginity, or viewers intelligence (or lack thereof).3. why shouldn't a show with tons of fanservice have other important stuff in it? its not just the fanservice that makes the show, its can't be a show without the other stuff the first part is a personal problem... people can learn self control... its not that hard... the only thing thats hard is my dick... and just cause my dick is hard doesn't mean i forget what else in the show is going on that is retarded... i bet you just as man "normal looking" or however you wanna describe them, people like fanservice, theyre just far less likely to admit it as it may taint their image i look like a fucking gangster to many people and im all over this shit... people can't just stereotype, cause theyre 100% sure to be wrong |
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EcchiLordMamster said: I was being sarcastic btw, I think you got that, but I wasn't sure based on your reply. Also, most of the people I know who like ecchi are girls, so like.... yeah.merryfistmas said: Because people can't focus on anything else if it has fan service, it either must be a pure fan service show or have none of it, and if it does have any then it's for some reason that relates to neckbeards, virginity, or viewers intelligence (or lack thereof). the first part is a personal problem... people can learn self control... its not that hard... the only thing thats hard is my dick... and just cause my dick is hard doesn't mean i forget what else in the show is going on that is retarded... i bet you just as man "normal looking" or however you wanna describe them, people like fanservice, theyre just far less likely to admit it as it may taint their image i look like a fucking gangster to many people and im all over this shit... people can't just stereotype, cause theyre 100% sure to be wrong |
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merryfistmas said: EcchiLordMamster said: I was being sarcastic btw, I think you got that, but I wasn't sure based on your reply. Also, most of the people I know who like ecchi are girls, so like.... yeah.the first part is a personal problem... people can learn self control... its not that hard... the only thing thats hard is my dick... and just cause my dick is hard doesn't mean i forget what else in the show is going on that is retarded... i bet you just as man "normal looking" or however you wanna describe them, people like fanservice, theyre just far less likely to admit it as it may taint their image i look like a fucking gangster to many people and im all over this shit... people can't just stereotype, cause theyre 100% sure to be wrong i know, i wasn't claiming you actually thought that, although i know you're not necessarily a "fan" of ecchi |
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| The only fan-service I can handle is if its being used as a joke a good example of this is Prison School |
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EcchiLordMamster said: 1. Actually you can degrade a character. You just never bother to actually of digging and find out how to properly write characters and tell stories. Anyway you want an example of a degrade character? Gohan from DBZ. Makoto from Sailor Moon. Aoki from Hajme No ippo. Hell I could even go to the relam of cartoons but I'll make it simple for you. Take a character like Jack from Samurai Jack for example. He is a serious business swordman. Let's say you rebooted it to be comedy centric and you turn into a flat out goofball that forgets how to fight every two seconds? HaXXspetten said: I reckon people have different ideas of what "done right" is supposed to mean? But yeah I guess the most general answer would be that fanservice is fine as long as it does not 1) needlessly degrade the characters, 2) come off as extremely forced or even unrealistic, or 3) try to use its story as some sort of excuse to justify the presence of its fanservice; if you already know everyone is watching the show for the ecchi anyway then you shouldn't need to include a bunch of other stuff just to have some excuse in case the SJWs come after you Other than that it's fine I'd say 1. you sound like an SJW bruh... degrade characters? you cannot "degrade" a fictional character... theyre someones fantasy... they have no free will 2. it shouldn't come off as unrealistic? WTF? then what is the point of fiction? the only thing "forced" is my hand on my penis 3. why shouldn't a show with tons of fanservice have other important stuff in it? its not just the fanservice that makes the show, its can't be a show without the other stuff and the SJW's can all go fuck themselves Btw...you're also saying you can't progress a character since they are fictional too. Do you know see how stupid that is to say? |
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MasterHavik said: EcchiLordMamster said: 1. Actually you can degrade a character. You just never bother to actually of digging and find out how to properly write characters and tell stories. Anyway you want an example of a degrade character? Gohan from DBZ. Makoto from Sailor Moon. Aoki from Hajme No ippo. Hell I could even go to the relam of cartoons but I'll make it simple for you. Take a character like Jack from Samurai Jack for example. He is a serious business swordman. Let's say you rebooted it to be comedy centric and you turn into a flat out goofball that forgets how to fight every two seconds? 1. you sound like an SJW bruh... degrade characters? you cannot "degrade" a fictional character... theyre someones fantasy... they have no free will 2. it shouldn't come off as unrealistic? WTF? then what is the point of fiction? the only thing "forced" is my hand on my penis 3. why shouldn't a show with tons of fanservice have other important stuff in it? its not just the fanservice that makes the show, its can't be a show without the other stuff and the SJW's can all go fuck themselves Btw...you're also saying you can't progress a character since they are fictional too. Do you know see how stupid that is to say? i don't agree that that is "degrading" and no i didn't say that |
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EcchiLordMamster said: Dude constantly having a character lose or been devalue to the purpose of a store is degrading them. Tell me what is the point of Gohan when he can't beat s save his life? MasterHavik said: 1. Actually you can degrade a character. You just never bother to actually of digging and find out how to properly write characters and tell stories. Anyway you want an example of a degrade character? Gohan from DBZ. Makoto from Sailor Moon. Aoki from Hajme No ippo. Hell I could even go to the relam of cartoons but I'll make it simple for you. Take a character like Jack from Samurai Jack for example. He is a serious business swordman. Let's say you rebooted it to be comedy centric and you turn into a flat out goofball that forgets how to fight every two seconds? Btw...you're also saying you can't progress a character since they are fictional too. Do you know see how stupid that is to say? i don't agree that that is "degrading" and no i didn't say that Also sorry for putting words in your mouth. I meant to say you thinking you can't degrade a character is basically you can make a character progress either. You can't say that dude. But it makes it look like you don't want character development at any kind and just want to be "entrain". And before you say anything degrading and progression are polar opposites but not the same thing. |
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MasterHavik said: Dude constantly having a character lose or been devalue to the purpose of a store is degrading them. Tell me what is the point of Gohan when he can't beat s save his life? Also sorry for putting words in your mouth. I meant to say you thinking you can't degrade a character is basically you can make a character progress either. You can't say that dude. But it makes it look like you don't want character development at any kind and just want to be "entrain". And before you say anything degrading and progression are polar opposites but not the same thing. how does that gohan definition of degrade relate to fanservice gohan always losing? did you watch DBZ? and wtf does gohan losing have to do with degrading? i know for sure thats not what he meant by fanservice degrading a character he probably meant it "turns them into an object"... which i don't agree that it does, so no, i again am not saying that your definition of degrade is not the same as his |
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EcchiLordMamster said: Degrade transcends fanserivce dude and yes I watched dragonball Z. I don't think you'll like it. Not enough one dimensional girls with boobs and asses. MasterHavik said: Dude constantly having a character lose or been devalue to the purpose of a store is degrading them. Tell me what is the point of Gohan when he can't beat s save his life? Also sorry for putting words in your mouth. I meant to say you thinking you can't degrade a character is basically you can make a character progress either. You can't say that dude. But it makes it look like you don't want character development at any kind and just want to be "entrain". And before you say anything degrading and progression are polar opposites but not the same thing. how does that gohan definition of degrade relate to fanservice gohan always losing? did you watch DBZ? and wtf does gohan losing have to do with degrading? i know for sure thats not what he meant by fanservice degrading a character he probably meant it "turns them into an object"... which i don't agree that it does, so no, i again am not saying that your definition of degrade is not the same as his But I brought Gohan up because....well I'm a DBZ fan and kind of the know the story front and back. I'm talking after his youth and when he got older. When he got older he became a waste of space. Now let's talk about how he is defining degrading in regards to just fanservice. It really depends on the show if you ask me. A show like Love Hina can be seen as degrading. Same with Girls Bravo. But to keep this simple making a female character who only trait is tits and ass....and maybe wanted to bone the shit out of the main character. Now if you take said character...like for example Aki from 5Ds. After season 1 she got degraded into being the main character's personal cheerleader and on again off again girlfriend. That is degrading too. It isn't always sexual man. But if you seen Yugioh 5Ds you would know how botched Aki's character is. Yeah I can see this. And using the argument of," It's not real!!!" This is coming from someone who kind of shits on any anime that tries to tell a story. Now is it sexist? Uh....I'm going to be honest and say no. I just think it's stupid and once again lazy writing. |
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MasterHavik said: Degrade transcends fanserivce dude and yes I watched dragonball Z. I don't think you'll like it. Not enough one dimensional girls with boobs and asses. But I brought Gohan up because....well I'm a DBZ fan and kind of the know the story front and back. I'm talking after his youth and when he got older. When he got older he became a waste of space. Now let's talk about how he is defining degrading in regards to just fanservice. It really depends on the show if you ask me. A show like Love Hina can be seen as degrading. Same with Girls Bravo. But to keep this simple making a female character who only trait is tits and ass....and maybe wanted to bone the shit out of the main character. Now if you take said character...like for example Aki from 5Ds. After season 1 she got degraded into being the main character's personal cheerleader and on again off again girlfriend. That is degrading too. It isn't always sexual man. But if you seen Yugioh 5Ds you would know how botched Aki's character is. Yeah I can see this. And using the argument of," It's not real!!!" This is coming from someone who kind of shits on any anime that tries to tell a story. Now is it sexist? Uh....I'm going to be honest and say no. I just think it's stupid and once again lazy writing. i grew up with dragonball z bruh... wtf? ive seen all 200 or w/e episodes... AND all of DB and GT.... not the whole thing, but i first saw that show before i knew anime had boobs in it.... i don't consider it degrading although i guess i can see why people would who shits on anime that tries to tell a story? not caring about the story or not prioritizing the story does not mean i have a problem with story |
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NicoK said: Probably because people have different ideas of what constitutes "fanservice done right".Why do people hate fan-service when done right? NicoK said: It seems that you're just citing examples that you enjoyed.First i want to say that i`m not talking about those boring beach/onsen episodes that they only purpose is to show the female cast in swimsuits or naked, or those ecchi anime with no plot, i'm talking about the shows that use it to help the plot or only because it`s make sense, for example in episode 9 of konosuba darkness is naked in the hole episode, but i cuoldn`t care less since i was laughing every second, or in one episode of black lagoon (i don´t remember wich one) there were hookers in topless, but thats a logical thing. An anime is not better for having fan service but it`s not worst if it happen to have it in a no boring way. I know I wouldn't watch KonoSuba, probably partly because of its fanservice, but mainly because its comedy -- including but not limited to its use of fanservice for comedy -- is not something I enjoy. I might agree with you re Black Lagoon example, on the same basis -- that it's logical. Meanwhile I'm surprised that no one's made a show about a girls swim team that actually takes it seriously. NicoK said: I won't tell you a show is bad for having fanservice, though I will sometimes say that the fanservice ruined the mood of the show, if it doesn't work with said mood. On the other hand, I don't see what makes a person "bad" or "worse" for either only watching ecchi or for rejecting a show for its fanservice.i believe that the people who say a show is bad only for having FS are even worst that the one who only watched ecchi series. If you just watch ecchi, I'm okay with that. Why would I mind? Same if you don't like ecchi/fanservice/sex scenes. |
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volt16 said: I'd disagree about your definition of fanservice, which just goes to show that this:Because what you describe is not fanservice. Fanservice is when the writers go out of their way to give us a panty shot/ boob shot etc. which in no way or form is significant to the plot. They are just doing it to appease the sex hungry primarily male audience. On the other hand, scenes with naked people as in Black Lagoon or other anime that have some bearing on the story itself do not qualify as fanservice. They are a part of the plot or in the case of Black Lagoon part of the enviroment. Fanservice "done right" is still fanservice and "done right" may have a different meaning depending on whom you ask. Aika said: basically applies across the board.Because your definition of fanservice done right and mine is different. NicoK said: You're probably hearing different people complain. Attributing the opinions of different people all to one crowd-representing "person" never ends up making much sense.i didnt how to say it, but even if it`s not fanservice people complain all the time nah, flat chests FTW Luuji222 said: And a key thing that people should remember here is that not everyone enjoys, say, perverted humor, and thus not everyone enjoys the forms of fanservice based on that. And same goes for basically any other type of fanservice.well, I enjoyed perverted humor, but not too much nudity and overused fan service. EcchiGodMamsterP said: Your first two questions suggest that you're not getting suspension of disbelief.HaXXspetten said: I reckon people have different ideas of what "done right" is supposed to mean? But yeah I guess the most general answer would be that fanservice is fine as long as it does not 1) needlessly degrade the characters, 2) come off as extremely forced or even unrealistic, or 3) try to use its story as some sort of excuse to justify the presence of its fanservice; if you already know everyone is watching the show for the ecchi anyway then you shouldn't need to include a bunch of other stuff just to have some excuse in case the SJWs come after you Other than that it's fine I'd say 1. you sound like an SJW bruh... degrade characters? you cannot "degrade" a fictional character... theyre someones fantasy... they have no free will 2. it shouldn't come off as unrealistic? WTF? then what is the point of fiction? the only thing "forced" is my hand on my penis 3. why shouldn't a show with tons of fanservice have other important stuff in it? its not just the fanservice that makes the show, its can't be a show without the other stuff and the SJW's can all go fuck themselves Now if you enjoy stuff without suspension of disbelief, that's fine too, but for some, it's about immersing oneself inside the world of the story and seeing the characters as people. Try not to jump to SJW-blaming, or else you risk overusing it. |
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