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Oct 26, 2016 6:39 AM

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GhostsNGlory said:
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The moment I read ´The Young Turks´, I knew it was going to be absolute BS. I don´t even need to watch the video to know that


Since you didn't watch the video allow me to summarize it for you. The woman just read from the Kotaku article, but the guy is a fan of japanese anime and manga. He made some good points for why that sort of fan service is normal in japanese culture and it wasn't a big deal.

so they actually made quality content for once? Now that´s a surprise
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Oct 26, 2016 8:19 AM

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THEY'RE SAYING KIJO ITS FUCKING KEIJOU THIS TRIGGERED ME FOR UNKNOWN REASONS
Oct 26, 2016 9:47 AM

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If this show had a gender bender I'd guarantee you that they'll be fine with it.

Feminism is pure bullshit. I Can list 5 common sexist practises against male's that are used constantly in modern society off the top of my head.

- Ladies First (Why not just whoever's behind you first like I do?)

- Guy must ask the girl out

- Guy Pay's for the date, even if the girl invited (Why not do a 50|50?)

- You Can't hit girls but girls can hit you (How about you can't hit anybody?)

- In Media, men commonly tend to be the cheater, or the pervert. (One of the things I think anime does right, Since it easily goes both ways)

Oct 26, 2016 10:13 AM

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That Kotaku article is just eugh...... Deplorable. It looks like a facebook post of an angry women who can't quite vent out her frustration since she's on Kotaku and she needs to keep it down if she don't want fire on her head.

I can enjoy Keijo when I turn my morality back and it was fun to watch. Otherwise, I would cringe myself to death.
Oct 26, 2016 11:08 AM

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recently I saw news about a local "men butt wrestling" in my country... they need to push the opponent out the arena, using only their butt ^^'
is basically a real life Keijo with men...


all arguments against the anime, are invalid, XD
Oct 26, 2016 2:51 PM

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Ronin-errante said:
recently I saw news about a local "men butt wrestling" in my country... they need to push the opponent out the arena, using only their butt ^^'
is basically a real life Keijo with men...


all arguments against the anime, are invalid, XD


OMG LOL! Where are you living?
Oct 26, 2016 5:26 PM
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YK97 said:
Ronin-errante said:
recently I saw news about a local "men butt wrestling" in my country... they need to push the opponent out the arena, using only their butt ^^'
is basically a real life Keijo with men...


all arguments against the anime, are invalid, XD


OMG LOL! Where are you living?


Brazil, and here's a link to this event :D
Oct 26, 2016 6:28 PM

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shadowbringer616 said:
YK97 said:


OMG LOL! Where are you living?


Brazil, and here's a link to this event :D


Damn, that's hilarious. I never imagine it would happen in real life. Must be real entertaining to watch even though there are no women. LMAO
Oct 26, 2016 7:08 PM

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Keijo Triggering the SJW was by far the best. Now it's not only one of my favorite mangas.
But also a weapon of mASS destruction to SJW.
Oct 26, 2016 7:28 PM

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SnugDarkly said:
Men that haven't been liberalized aren't like women. They can hate something and be perfectly alright with it existing.
come again?
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Oct 26, 2016 9:14 PM

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never read the kotaku article, so my response is only to the pop trigger video in particular.

well, pop trigger's response was very reasonable and informable. they say we shouldn't be quick to judge other cultures, we learned that the roots for the "tentacle porn" that hentai has essentially become known for came from japanese mythology of octopi having sex with a fisherman's wife, and that feminists are the authoritarian left (wait, what).

otherwise, those that say feminism is wrong if you have to turn off the ideology to have fun think of this analogy: a comedian says a joke with the holocaust as the punchline, and a jewish person (or any person offended) can decide whether or not to laugh
you know it's wrong to have fun with it - to laugh at an act against humanity, but you know that the intentions were to make you laugh.

then there's the whole isis-chan meme, 9/11 mlg illuminati, dicks out for harembe, etc stuff whose purpose is outwardly offensive yet have become niche parodies where the joke is essentially that you or others have been triggered

the content is morally bad but the intention is comedic - every person, whether they're a feminist or otherwise, at one point sees this dilemma though feminists see it more often concerning genders and sexes
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thank god japan does not give a fk about what other countries think

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If this show had a gender bender I'd guarantee you that they'll be fine with it.

Feminism is pure bullshit. I Can list 5 common sexist practises against male's that are used constantly in modern society off the top of my head.

- Ladies First (Why not just whoever's behind you first like I do?)

- Guy must ask the girl out

- Guy Pay's for the date, even if the girl invited (Why not do a 50|50?)

- You Can't hit girls but girls can hit you (How about you can't hit anybody?)

- In Media, men commonly tend to be the cheater, or the pervert. (One of the things I think anime does right, Since it easily goes both ways)


I'd be absolutely fine with a male focused Keijo existing. It doesn't offend me, doesn't belittle me. If I would watch it, I'd be laughing at the ridiculousness and the comedy. 2D guys don't represent the whole male population.
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Kirulas said:
RottedRabbit said:
If this show had a gender bender I'd guarantee you that they'll be fine with it.

Feminism is pure bullshit. I Can list 5 common sexist practises against male's that are used constantly in modern society off the top of my head.

- Ladies First (Why not just whoever's behind you first like I do?)

- Guy must ask the girl out

- Guy Pay's for the date, even if the girl invited (Why not do a 50|50?)

- You Can't hit girls but girls can hit you (How about you can't hit anybody?)

- In Media, men commonly tend to be the cheater, or the pervert. (One of the things I think anime does right, Since it easily goes both ways)


I'd be absolutely fine with a male focused Keijo existing. It doesn't offend me, doesn't belittle me. If I would watch it, I'd be laughing at the ridiculousness and the comedy. 2D guys don't represent the whole male population.
I agree with this, in fact i'd say it would be even better IMO. If I showed this to my GF she'd start laughing, not screaming "SEXIST SEXIST ALERT WTF!!!"

Oct 27, 2016 2:44 PM
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thats the best thing you can do... just keep embracing what you love no matter how much shit others talk, and eventually they will stfu or at least lose

lol.....amen...lol
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Copypastad a rant I made on facebook.

I think feminists need to stay away from sexy anime. Apparently, people are complaining that Keijo is misogynistic. I can see how they could complain about it being objectifying, given that the fictional sport Keijo involves women slamming their tits and asses together in an effort to knock each other into the water. I see it differently. These women are owning their sexualities. Nozomi, for instance, comes from a very poor family and wants to use the money from being a professional Keijo athlete to send back home. The girls also have personalities and personal quirks. Like Aoba is embarrassed by her Hiroshima accent, causing her to remain mute for the first two episodes because she's so shy. I think some feminists would not want us to have sexy media. I'm a feminist and I think we should embrace sexuality instead of trying to repress it.
Oct 27, 2016 2:48 PM
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I'm gonna be honest...even if i'm not fond of Keijo, I think this article from Kotaku is just...a pain to read. But then again, who uses Kotaku as a good news source?
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Oct 28, 2016 2:31 PM

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MozillaFennekin said:
Yeah, we get it. Super feminists are dumb and annoying. Keijo is dumb and fun.

>2016
>reading Kotaku


Aaaaand...

>watching the Young Turds

YK97 said:
shadowbringer616 said:


Brazil, and here's a link to this event :D


Damn, that's hilarious. I never imagine it would happen in real life. Must be real entertaining to watch even though there are no women. LMAO


My country being...my country. It's just a matter of time until the female version appears, so we can all rejoice...
huehuehue the zueira never ends!


I'm a leftist, I hate SJWs even more than most trump supporters because they hijacked my political position and turned it into a joke.


Feels like anyone over here in Brazil. The left was been hijacked by postmodern pseudointelectuals, kinda like SJW, just way less organized, and doublethinking neostalinists (hello PT!), and the right by by some fascist nutjobs (hello, Bolsonazi) and many corrupts (hello PMDB/PSDB/etc)...
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Kind of reminds me of some girl I met who wanted to watch Sailor Moon because it had gender positivity or it's pro-LGBT or some shit like that.

I told her that even Sailor Moon had some stereotypical shoujo elements that might offend her since the senshi are constantly trying to find boyfriends (can't live without a man), think a woman/girl should behave a certain way, etc. I told her that she shouldn't really watch a show with certain expectations since the first Sailor Moon show was made in the 90s. I told her Anime and manga in general would offend her if she didn't watch it with an open mind but she still went for it and kept ranting on social media about how wrong Sailor Moon was for showing her panties lol
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The only thing I think the SJW's got right is that this show doesn't give much to care about any of the characters in the series. That is what makes them objects to me in the sense...who are these girls at all and why do I want them to win? Because main characters I guess? I've only seen up to episode 2 btw.

What it does do well is present it's fanservice very very very well.

Only Ecchi show that I've liked is Food Wars, because I loved the characters in that show and it made the fan-service better for me as a result.
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I agree that it should hurt, realistically, but.. I can take anime where people smash rocks with their fists (or feet, or back) just fine; I can watch scenes like this and be like, "okay". Not trying to argue or disprove anything (since people have different limits for suspension of disbelief), just adding my cents.


We-ell, it isn't exactly about suspension of disbelief, it's about cringy bullshit.

You can still hit something with fists, so hitting something that is normally impossible is an exaggeration of something that can be done, that shows how powerful the character is. It’s a continuation of logic.

Hitting stuff with boobs is abnormal, there’s no logic. Breasts don't have muscles, it's crushing your - highly sensitive - glands against ribs. And they don't float like two balls, they hang, you won’t be able to push a tire with them, maybe with some very special bra, but I haven’t noticed it mentioned here. It could work in something outlandish, but Keijo aims for faux-realism, so this irritates me. (And it has a lot of such moments, that are supposed to be character or plot driven, but what really drives them are pantyshots. Personally, I prefer shows to be more open with their pragmatics.)

Also, pardon me for saying this, as, I know, the annoying “it’s fiction, yadda, yadda” argument will be brought up agains, but I don’t look forward to people getting ideas about boobs being hittable or a good thing to strike with. I fully expect experiments in this direction – people are stupid, and even live action porn somehow doesn’t help with knowledge on female physiology. (Actually there’s something with anime and completely borked boobs lately, like that Hestia ribbon, but at least it was fantasy and she was a goddess.)



ITS NOT TO HAVE LOGIC ITS A COMEDY

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The only thing I think the SJW's got right is that this show doesn't give much to care about any of the characters in the series. That is what makes them objects to me in the sense...who are these girls at all and why do I want them to win? Because main characters I guess? I've only seen up to episode 2 btw.

What it does do well is present it's fanservice very very very well.

Only Ecchi show that I've liked is Food Wars, because I loved the characters in that show and it made the fan-service better for me as a result.

the caracthers in Keijo arent ass holes like in food wars
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kirinonakano said:
Red_Ryu12345 said:
The only thing I think the SJW's got right is that this show doesn't give much to care about any of the characters in the series. That is what makes them objects to me in the sense...who are these girls at all and why do I want them to win? Because main characters I guess? I've only seen up to episode 2 btw.

What it does do well is present it's fanservice very very very well.

Only Ecchi show that I've liked is Food Wars, because I loved the characters in that show and it made the fan-service better for me as a result.

the caracthers in Keijo arent ass holes like in food wars


I mean, yeah almost every villain is a food snob there. But at least that is something.
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Japan make anime primarily for the Japanese audience. Once again it's the case of some western viewers not understanding the cultural differences and making it out to be something it was not meant to be. ITS NOT HENTAI GODAMMIT
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Nov 8, 2016 6:16 AM
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Red_Ryu12345 said:
kirinonakano said:

the caracthers in Keijo arent ass holes like in food wars


I mean, yeah almost every villain is a food snob there. But at least that is something.


the ''villains'' are more likeable than the assholes annoying misserable piece of shit main characters of food wars,in Keijo Nom is a Dumb but fun girl,Aoba is a good Kuudere(and I hate Kuuderes),Nozomi is a cute genki girl,in food wars i only see assholes that i want to kill because every character in this anime piss me off,this anime only loose to Durarara and Monogatari in have a cast full of assholes.
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It's funny that Keijo has pretty much the same plot as most shounens.
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kirinonakano said:
Red_Ryu12345 said:


I mean, yeah almost every villain is a food snob there. But at least that is something.


the ''villains'' are more likeable than the assholes annoying misserable piece of shit main characters of food wars,in Keijo Nom is a Dumb but fun girl,Aoba is a good Kuudere(and I hate Kuuderes),Nozomi is a cute genki girl,in food wars i only see assholes that i want to kill because every character in this anime piss me off,this anime only loose to Durarara and Monogatari in have a cast full of assholes.


The Villians are far worse....not sure what show you are watching. They are food snobs....just because and they act like some of the worst humans possible as a result. It's something even I criticized the show for, the villains and rivals all have the same motivation.

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It's funny that Keijo has pretty much the same plot as most shounens.


Pretty much.
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Red_Ryu12345 said:
kirinonakano said:


the ''villains'' are more likeable than the assholes annoying misserable piece of shit main characters of food wars,in Keijo Nom is a Dumb but fun girl,Aoba is a good Kuudere(and I hate Kuuderes),Nozomi is a cute genki girl,in food wars i only see assholes that i want to kill because every character in this anime piss me off,this anime only loose to Durarara and Monogatari in have a cast full of assholes.


The Villians are far worse....not sure what show you are watching. They are food snobs....just because and they act like some of the worst humans possible as a result. It's something even I criticized the show for, the villains and rivals all have the same motivation.


Still i think the man character deserve to die
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Red_Ryu12345 said:


The Villians are far worse....not sure what show you are watching. They are food snobs....just because and they act like some of the worst humans possible as a result. It's something even I criticized the show for, the villains and rivals all have the same motivation.


Still i think the man character deserve to die


He is super full of himself but learns he has a ways to go and some humility along the way while still being cocky.
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Good grief....not another one....

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Girls please just stop. Let us guys enjoy what we want
We gave you Free after all

isn't that fair enough now


Yes, it's totally fair...JUST LET EVERYONE ENJOY THEIR PORN. SHUT THE F*CK UP ABOUT IT BEING A PROBLEM.



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kirinonakano said:

Still i think the man character deserve to die


He is super full of himself but learns he has a ways to go and some humility along the way while still being cocky.



nothing abbout this anime is good
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all i can say is..
THANK GOD FOR KEIJO!!! ^^
seriously i needed a fun show like this atm
Nov 20, 2016 12:26 PM

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wait, where is the SJW? The lady on the video does not criticise at all @.@

edit: oh it's the article
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So... what? Have you forgotten that there's ton of male otaku that mad about free?

http://mantearsflowingfree.tumblr.com

Or... how about this?



It's not like men never complain about anime with all male cast that targeted toward women. In MAL you can see many post "ugh this anime is so gay"Heck, for every one anime that feature shirtless male, there's two more ecchi anime
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Kyokutou said:
So... what? Have you forgotten that there's ton of male otaku that mad about free?

http://mantearsflowingfree.tumblr.com

Or... how about this?



It's not like men never complain about anime with all male cast that targeted toward women. In MAL you can see many post "ugh this anime is so gay"Heck, for every one anime that feature shirtless male, there's two more anime ecchi anime

Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Two wrongs don't make a right.


Yeah, please also tell that to other men. Thank you.
Jan 8, 2017 1:57 PM

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Kyokutou said:
G_Spark233 said:

Two wrongs don't make a right.


Yeah, please also tell that to other men. Thank you.

I haven't seen Free so I can't really comment on the issue.
Jan 8, 2017 2:32 PM

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So what exactly was it they said in this video that was so egregious?

I mean, you guys are aware how shows like Keijo look to people who don't know about anime? you do have at least that much self awareness right?


Ayy, wassup Bobby! I think the egregious part comes in the article linked below the video...
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Copypastad a rant I made on facebook.

I think feminists need to stay away from sexy anime. Apparently, people are complaining that Keijo is misogynistic. I can see how they could complain about it being objectifying, given that the fictional sport Keijo involves women slamming their tits and asses together in an effort to knock each other into the water. I see it differently. These women are owning their sexualities. Nozomi, for instance, comes from a very poor family and wants to use the money from being a professional Keijo athlete to send back home. The girls also have personalities and personal quirks. Like Aoba is embarrassed by her Hiroshima accent, causing her to remain mute for the first two episodes because she's so shy. I think some feminists would not want us to have sexy media. I'm a feminist and I think we should embrace sexuality instead of trying to repress it.


Actually, the author himself has Nozomi featured with a 4chan shirt, so he's completely aware that most of his readers come for the T and A show, which in itself would be harmless. The problem is, that there are certain loud subcommunities who shout from the top of their lungs that this is the form females are to exist. Where your opinions and personal merit don't matter as you're not more but an extension to sexual pleasure provided by a consumer society.

If, say, we take the example of a person who's being allowed to comb a second person's long hair every day, and the question would be, is it okay if they do it to others without permission, only a few would find that not creepy. Consent and context matters.

Those who idolize Japan's "unwavering stance of no change" forget they have the same position on WWII. In fact, and this just an aside, if you look up the word Keijo, it was the colonial university in Seoul. High school of the dead has already gone as far as presenting the Japanese far right as a positive group.

As a private person, I love Keijo, both the manga and the anime, but I don't have delusions about an entire gender existing to please me sexually as if my sexual fantasies equal a reality where others are to do my bidding. Those thinking otherwise are known as bigots, who support domestic, sexual or simple workforce slavery.

I also don't see room for fallacies, like "the way I see things represent a general worldview", or " it's useless to give options if it's something they don't want". The one thing that didn't come up here that we dudes very much have an equal counterpart to a female version of sexism, and that's the psychosexual fantasies of unwanted sexual advances of homosexual men. Gays are frequently targeted because the unproven premise is at work which says men can't help but constantly want to have sex, therefore gays target heteros, something, that's a proven utter BS, yet you can easily find about half the world's countries where just being gay is a crime.

I like to be an interlocutor, as having a result reached by all parties that births something new is always better than fruitless back and forth, and frankly the alt-right isn't that much of a partner in the former. It's not a lie that not every opposition to social criticism exist to analyze and possibly counter an idea, but solely just to "kill the noise". Feminists are as diverse as anime fans with several rifts among them, one being sex positivity or negativity (the debate around Deep Throat and lesbian porn were quite famous).

It's not much use shouting "they criticize without knowing the source material" when at the same time women are clustered into a single identity as if they're not different from each other. We men are too. Even among the anti-feminists, activists for father's rights want the very opposite the so-called men going their own way want, and possibly both want nothing to do with white nationalists. Nor have I personally heard others publicly declaring they want to join incels.

Speaking of not understanding cultural differences, the Japanese herbivores reflect the inevitable change of the Japanese economy, which is faster than social change. Much like with the American Dream, their fathers and grandfathers were taught to having lifelong employment and stability (which is funny as that's a staple of undemocratic socialism) so now when that's no longer a possibility, and being NEET a reality, they refuse being the chosen caretaker. That's in stark contrast with America where despite dwindling options being the breadwinner is still on the table and opposition is toward working women.

That makes Keijo all the more a fantasy. The actual society is so strict, that only unserious variety shows put on Keijo-like contests. The cultural norms expect from them to wild out as a minor but be a productive member as an adult. I'm not a betting man, but most individuals easily accustomed to the idea of strip clubs would heavily fight a society where they can't enjoy that. Many things we see in anime and manga are for the top 1%, like geishas and night clubs (cabaret clubs).

Therefore if I wanted to defend Keijo beyond being a dumb t and a show, I'd say it's a run-of-the-mill story that helps guide unneded energy before the readers become faceless drones in the corporate machine.
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Well...Keijo might be entertaining for the people that want fan service or the ones that enjoy to laugh at "absurd" comedy, which is fine, but let's not forget that this show is actually trash and not because it goes against sjw's rules. An anime where characters have "serious" fights with boobs and asses has nothing to offer but ecchi fan service, mediocre ecchi fan service tbh.
I will never understand how people gets turned on with this kind of ecchi shows, like bruh, just go watch a hentai if you want to fap with 2D boobs and stop wasting your little friend's energy with absurd and mediocre ecchi fan service.
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Keijo is absolutely hilarious. I’m a feminist and I have absolutely no problem with showing boobs and fan service as long as it isn't degrading or objectifying. I think the female body is a beautiful thing and should not be feared or censored.

My only problem is that why can’t we have a sports anime just about women doing normal sports? Like idk maybe normal tennis would be nice. We have normal volleyball, swimming, basketball, etc. So why don’t we have more of those, but with a women team too! Free! Iwatobi Swim Club has many fan service for ladies, but it isn't degrading or only operating the guys as sexual entertainment. The swimming is still serious and competitive in the show. The sport in Keijo is all about boobs and butts, and that’s fine! Embrace the female form.

Idk but yea I don’t have a problem with fan service, unless it is unnecessary or degrading or rapey or objectifying. For instance, the only purpose of the girls in Darling of the Fraxx was for them to be bent over so the viewer had butts to fap to. That is objectification. Or like if a female character has no other purpose than to give sex appeal. Fan service like that is objectification and sexist.


It’s just like why can we have serious sports anime for women??? It’s because that wouldn’t sell as well. Meanwhile in real life there are PLENTY of amazing female athletes. And some ecchi characters are just flat(personality wise not chest wise if you know what I mean) but yea I have no problem with female nudity or fan service in anime as long as it’s not like degrading or unnecessary. In sports anime, I think it’s a little unnecessary. But Keijo is a comedy too, so it’s fine. I just want more serious sports anime with women like how we have serious sports anime with guys such as Free!, Haikyuu, Kuroko no Basket, etc.

True feminists believe in equality. Most SJWs need to realize there are worse things such as actual racism and sexism. Not a small issue like showing female nudity, because female nudity is okay! In anime bath scenes, guy or girl, the usually censor both male and female genitals with steam and if they don’t, who cares? It’s human anatomy. But sometimes we need serious and UNSEXUALIZED women’s sports anime, that’s all I’m saying. It’s not the same man service as Free because Free was not built around fanservice. Keijo also has way more fanservice than Free. They had their shirts off because it was needed. Make a serious sports anime with strong female athletes that should be as popular as other sports anime if it was good. A show does not lose potential because of a female cast. Especially a sports anime.
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They didn't call it a 10/10 masterpiece, which triggers all of the ecchi fegs apparantly. This just shows how insecure and dumb they are :/

It's mostly the hypocrisy that gets to me...

So, the clip is mostly commenting about the Kotaku article.

Kotaku is supposedly a place with anime and video game fans...mostly video games though.

And here they are calling Keijo this and that and how sexist and "deplorable" it is....and yet, I don't see them chastising manservice anime like Free...

Why is that?

I mean...Keijo is so obviously an anime meant to be dumb/fun and NOT to be taken seriously....but they can't do that.


Exactly. It’s a comedy. I, a feminist, think the female body should be embraced and yes boobs slapping against boobs are funny. Call me shallow. I just wish we had more serious women sports anime. And by serious I don’t mean no comedy. I mean the competition like Haikyuu and Kuroko no Basket.

Man service does not portray the men as objects. Neither does all fan service with women. But some fan service, depending on the context and purpose, is yes, objectifying and can portray women as objects. However, Keijo isn’t a big deal at all. It’s all in good fun.

Most fanservice is for comedy and fun, such as Keijo. And while no I don’t think all fanservice is objectifying, it was needed to get sales for a women’s sports anime tho, because as I said, women’s sports are viewed less than men’s sports, which THAT is sexist.

Free!’s fanservice did not OBJECTIFY the men. They were still their own characters and the purpose of the show wasn’t to show tits and ass. Stuff like porn and hentai is objectifying, not comedy like Keijo.
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If this show had a gender bender I'd guarantee you that they'll be fine with it.

Feminism is pure bullshit. I Can list 5 common sexist practises against male's that are used constantly in modern society off the top of my head.

- Ladies First (Why not just whoever's behind you first like I do?)

- Guy must ask the girl out

- Guy Pay's for the date, even if the girl invited (Why not do a 50|50?)

- You Can't hit girls but girls can hit you (How about you can't hit anybody?)

- In Media, men commonly tend to be the cheater, or the pervert. (One of the things I think anime does right, Since it easily goes both ways)


Firstly, if the show was guys’ balls and asses hitting each other, yes it would be questioned by a lot of men. But that’s acceptable right? When women criticize this, they are “overreacting or too sensitive” if men complained about balls hitting each other for no needed reason, they’d all agree. It’s also because there are like no serious women’s sports anime and this is the only way one would sell because of the sexist standard of how female sports do not sell as well as men’s sports or are watched less than men’s sports.

Not all feminists believe in that. I am one and completely agree. 50/50 paying for dates! ESCPECIALLY THE FIRST DATE. Idk how old this comment was cuz I didn’t look. But I’m bored in quarantine so I’m debunking. I feel like even now, usually guys offer to pay it, but you should say we have the option of paying half and half. Or when in a serious relationship. Maybe who just has more money on them at the time idk.

As regards for hitting each other. No people should not hit anyone. But men are frowned upon when abusing or hitting women because women are biologically the weaker sex in regards to strength, not everything. So if a man slaps a woman out of no where, yea that’s a shitty thing to do. Hitting people in general is bad. But men should especially NOT hit women because men are stronger in physical strength. Why resort to violence and pick on the weaker? (Physically that is I’m not saying women are weaker than men in EVERY department cuz that’s plain untrue)

I love asking guys out. The notion that a guy has to ask a girl is absolutely absurd. My parents where like, wait till he comes to you. No I go after what I want and if he says no so be it. Women shouldn’t have to sit around and wait for the man. And men should t be expected to ask a women out first.

Men are considered perverts more irl because men factually do more perverted things to women than women do to men. Plenty of statistics prove that fact. Not saying females can’t be sexually predators, but it is less common.

These “sexist practices” are nothing compared to what women are put through however. Many more things than 5 problems that can easily be solved by both parties. Thinking these issues are anything compared to what women and other minorities go though, is the mindset of someone with the privilege of not being oppressed, like women and minorities often are, still today in 2020. (Which yes, women are considered minorities so don’t @ me)
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