Shelter Episode 1 Discussion

sword123 said:

You have every right to think that there's nothing to the story and it's all just for promotion, but "lol you're looking way too deep, lay off the LSD." instead of elaborating on your point isn't very constructive. I doubt that any of the others think that it had to have a meaning, it's just what they got out of it.

migohunter said:
I usually am a tolerant individual when I judge an anime critically, but I can't let this six minute anime music video dubbed "Shelter" slip past my radar.

Simply put it is one of the most atrocious pieces of animation I have laid my eyes upon.

The art and animation are gorgeous but let's put that aside for a second because everything else about it is so awful that I can't give it a higher rating than a 2.

"Shelter" is the hallmark of everything wrong with the anime industry. It's a simple story about a father's love for his daughter but it's utterly RUINED by the fact that it tries to throw "feels" at us in the form of an adorable girl. I guarantee you that if the cute protagonist was replaced by a boy, dog, a middle aged adult, or anything of that sort it would not provoke the same reaction from me or anyone else. I would not bat an eye if the scenario was reversed and a mother sent his son into space because the son isn't a generic moe character.

In addition, it tries to tell a sad story in six minutes to elicit emotions from the audience. Why even bother? We need character development, we need a fleshed out backstory, we need hours upon hours of father-daughter moments to even sympathize with the main character. Only a full fleshed out series can do this kind of story justice, but it's compressed into a six minute MV so I'll dismiss "Shelter" as steaming garbage for even attempting to tell a story.

I cannot recommend this music video to anyone, and I'm sure many like minded anime critics and individuals of discerning taste would agree that "Shelter" is a shallow, vapid, piece of entertainment that appeals only to the lowest common denominator. Any argument or rebuttals made against me are just poor triggered people who can't handle that someone has a contrary opinion to theirs.

migohunter said:
I usually am a tolerant individual when I judge an anime critically, but I can't let this six minute anime music video dubbed "Shelter" slip past my radar.

Simply put it is one of the most atrocious pieces of animation I have laid my eyes upon.

The art and animation are gorgeous but let's put that aside for a second because everything else about it is so awful that I can't give it a higher rating than a 2.

"Shelter" is the hallmark of everything wrong with the anime industry. It's a simple story about a father's love for his daughter but it's utterly RUINED by the fact that it tries to throw "feels" at us in the form of an adorable girl. I guarantee you that if the cute protagonist was replaced by a boy, dog, a middle aged adult, or anything of that sort it would not provoke the same reaction from me or anyone else. I would not bat an eye if the scenario was reversed and a mother sent his son into space because the son isn't a generic moe character.

In addition, it tries to tell a sad story in six minutes to elicit emotions from the audience. Why even bother? We need character development, we need a fleshed out backstory, we need hours upon hours of father-daughter moments to even sympathize with the main character. Only a full fleshed out series can do this kind of story justice, but it's compressed into a six minute MV so I'll dismiss "Shelter" as steaming garbage for even attempting to tell a story.

I cannot recommend this music video to anyone, and I'm sure many like minded anime critics and individuals of discerning taste would agree that "Shelter" is a shallow, vapid, piece of entertainment that appeals only to the lowest common denominator. Any argument or rebuttals made against me are just poor triggered people who can't handle that someone has a contrary opinion to theirs.

OppaiSugoi said:
@migohunter can't tell if sarcastic...

Bloomster said:
This is probably the shortest most beautiful Anime I've ever watched. In just a mere 6 minutes it reached and soothed my heart. Truely wonderful yet sad. Soundtrack was amazing. I want a Movie or a series maybe? Would be great!

4kicks said:
I liked it. Easily became a contender as a new favorite. Part of me thinks it could even be made into a short OVA or movie, but this is good as it is.

For some reason, there are a lot of trolls here with shit like "only weebs like this garbage". I truly pity them, because it means their life must really suck if shitposting for no good reason is what gets them off. That, or they're still immature, living with their parents sucking on their mothers tit.

And apparently there is some internet drama debate on wether this is truly an "anime" be definition because of it's removal from reddit anime forums by mods. According to their mods, anime is for Japanese, by Japanese--to paraphrase, and not made by anyone non-Japanese. This was aired to a live audience in Japan (as well as the world online)....made by renown Japanese studio, by Japanese people in Japan...so what's the problem? Well, it also so happens to be partially made outside Japan (the song's producers, and the producers/writers themselves being non-Japanese). But by that definition, the vast majority of current anime cannot be considered "anime" as well, because of outsourcing to South Korea, and sometimes China/Taiwan, or by foreign nationals living and working in Japan. Seriously, look at the credits of any big anime series OP/ED credits, you'll see a lot of Korean names en masse, written in English. The reddit mods are just being incredibly anal about this. It's called a collaboration, deal with it.

Nourunin said:


>2016, Still uses the term 'troll'
What are you 12 or something?

>Calls other people shitposting when he indirectly replied to them
It's ironic isn't it?

>But by that definition, the vast majority of current anime cannot be considered "anime" as well, because of outsourcing to South Korea, and sometimes China/Taiwan, or by foreign nationals living and working in Japan. Seriously, look at the credits of any big anime series OP/ED credits, you'll see a lot of Korean names en masse, written in English.

Its not anime because its story is produced by some Western weeb, deal with it.

LostSpectre said:
Wait. What? How? Why!?

Do people actually agree with that 1/10 review? Are people on MAL really this fucking pretentious? Please tell me they used some kind of botting program to get likes, I refuse to believe those are legitimate, that would honestly be really depressing. This whole production was a thing of beauty, and I came here hoping that trash was off the front page, and what I got was the complete opposite.

LostSpectre said:
Wait. What? How? Why!?

Do people actually agree with that 1/10 review? Are people on MAL really this fucking pretentious? Please tell me they used some kind of botting program to get likes, I refuse to believe those are legitimate, that would honestly be really depressing. This whole production was a thing of beauty, and I came here hoping that trash was off the front page, and what I got was the complete opposite.

bastek66 said:

Aside from stupid review system that doesn't allow disagree or point out wrong things with review, people are annoyed by constant shilling Sony pulled with this AMV.

LoomyTheBrew said:
Shelter is trending on Facebook:


Apparently if you want anime to hit the mainstream, this is the way to do it. I'd love for more collaborations like this.

Always-Hungry said:
What am I supposed to feel about this?

Neromon said:


Depends on who you are. Are you a smart person who has the extremely rare gift of critical thinking? Then you should hate it for being manipulative garbage. Or are you a filthy casual who doesn't understand proper storytelling, thinks pretty colours actually mean something and cries everytime a random fictional puppy dies horrifically with sad music playing? Then you should love it.

jeremeel2015 said:


+1
i agree with you, they should put a disagree button, someone might think that all reviews are helpful lol

bastek66 said:


Aside from stupid review system that doesn't allow disagree or point out wrong things with review, people are annoyed by constant shilling Sony pulled with this AMV.

Neromon said:


Depends on who you are. Are you a smart person who has the extremely rare gift of critical thinking? Then you should hate it for being manipulative garbage. Or are you a filthy casual who doesn't understand proper storytelling, thinks pretty colours actually mean something and cries everytime a random fictional puppy dies horrifically with sad music playing? Then you should love it.

malonur said:
If you are over 15 and cried over this then u are an idiot.

Tiemuuu said:


this claim is toxic and false. being emotional doesn't make you stupid. empathy is a sign of intelligence.

malonur said:


Empathy doesnt mean to cry over every little stupid thing. That is idiocy. Learn the difference.

Tokoya said:
It was at the 4th spot on Youtube's trending list that day too

Naulii said:


We've seen in this video that some planet is going to crash with earth.

Here is one theory from reddit, too.

'Soooo, on the last few frames, we see Rin in the ship.

Pay attention to the UI in the background, you can a trajectory.

I though about it, and the direction of the trajectory doesn't make much sense : it comes from outside the system, toward the star. It doesn't look like an aimless trajectory, and I think the ship is landing soon.

Since we know the ship has been sailing for 2539 days or about 7 years. How about we look at the nearby stars within 7 light years. Alpha Centauri an Luhman 16 are candidates, as they both have known planets (and maybe more)

So yeah, her father had a degree in VR, space engineering and life support :)'

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