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Oct 19, 2016 9:26 AM

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They put a loli in a drastic situation?!
Muh FEEEEELS!


Yeah lol at all these fgts relating to loneliness and paternal love what a bunch of immature troglodytes am I right?

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Oct 19, 2016 9:40 AM

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Better of dead?

First, I dont have any background information, so the following thoughts are just assumptions from what Ive seen and thus my own interpretaions.. Feel free to correct me.

So, I think planet earth or another planet was near destruction and she was send in a capsule by her father into space with the hope to get found by another alien race or something else? Probably to
1. not get mad and
2. to save energy
she is put into a sleep and lives in a virtual dream world where she can create/draw her own visions and fake realities.

But this VR world doesnt seem to have any AI nor any connections to other humans floating around with her, so she cant create nor interact with other beings. It just seems optical and thus meaningless in my opinion. The way it seems it is quite anrealistic that she will ever be found or saved and she will spend her whole live in her dream world, which totally suxx.

You either create a world as Matrix, where you can interact with other human beings or with an AI, but the version presented in this short music clip seems so horrible. She probably will last 80+ years with neverending flashbacks of her childhood and her drawig some meaningless fake worlds. Her existence is meaningless and actually is literally a life time torture. Imo it would have been better, if her father didnt send her into space at all and would have spend the rest of their short life together on earth. Such a depressing setting.



Parent's will to keep their child alive is not based on reason. The very hope that it can survive at least longer than them is what fuels it. And that is about hope. No matter how low the chances of survival are they are always better than 0 to those who are already doomed.

SOMA, the video game with similar technological ideas explored something similar in terms of message
 
Oct 19, 2016 9:44 AM
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I’d like to share my own thoughts and interpretations based on my assumptions of this mv/song, as I am not entirely sure myself.

At a very distant time into the future, a war or natural disaster breaks and destroys the MC’s “planet”. MC’s father was probably one of the lead design engineers behind a major capsule project, before the catastrophe took place.

Seems like MC played a major part in this mission hence why she is the only one inside the capsule. This "mission" could symbolise a time for self-reflection and growth for MC. MC has subsequently left her dearest family to "save the planet" OR The father has finally realised MC is no longer "Daddy's Little Girl" and it was about time he gave her freedom BUT MC doesn't want to grow up. As expected, the capsule seems to have some sort of time travel capabilities. The MC is currently suspended in space and is actually enslaved by her past.

Capsule + Shelter = The longing for fatherly love/protection and the clinging to nostalgia




OR


My other interpretations based on my assumptions of the song lyrics is that

This could be a "daddy appreciation" music video. MC's father has left her for a better cause, she wants to see her father again and make him proud by following a similar creative path to his, hence why she was designing things. MC has created this ideal world, which only she lives in and wants to share it with her talented father. A music video bound to hit home with females who have daddy issues.

Her daddy is "so wonderful" to her.
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Oct 19, 2016 9:47 AM
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I expected some overhyped crap. Being proved wrong never felt so good.
I hope there will be something more. It looks like great setting for a movie.
 
Oct 19, 2016 9:57 AM

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Ew, the song is horrible.
 
Oct 19, 2016 10:01 AM

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man i am soooo happy that Porter and Madeon did this together with A-1 and Crunchyroll. This is so good!certainly the 1st of its kind and i hope it continues to be well received
 
Oct 19, 2016 10:06 AM

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Seems like this is the new Me! Me! Me! then (short anime film that goes viral and generates a lot of buzz)

The story feels like kind of an underwhelming feels grab to me but I love Madeon so I still approve
 
Oct 19, 2016 10:09 AM

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I love how the top review is basically "I don't like it cuz it has a cute girl"

this was beautiful, and very inspirational. I was quite iffy on what this short would come about since I thought I was just browsing landscapes and scenery, but it tied together quite nicely. Not a huge fan of the audio though. 8-9/10
 
Oct 19, 2016 10:10 AM

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The moon or small planet will fall on earth in 2066, seems legit.
8/10
 
Oct 19, 2016 10:10 AM

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I think it was alright, impressive in terms of visual quality and the song itself is catchy with decent style. I can't say more than that though as I'm not a big fan of anime music video so for me, it was just fine.
 
Oct 19, 2016 10:11 AM

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This was amazing! I already liked the song a lot by itself but for it to end up having an anime music video for it BLEW MY MIND!!!

It's also good to see that it's getting a good bit of popularity too, trending on FB and youtube.
 
Oct 19, 2016 10:25 AM

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I've never heard of Porter and Madeon before and I only knew about Shelter through an anime website, but I decided to spend a few minutes to listen. It was so beautiful.

So it starts with a girl with a tablet that she can use to create gorgeous landscapes by will. She hadn't had contact with anyone for roughly seven years. Flashbacks of her father suddenly start because of an unconscious memory and she now questions if she's able to withstand the loneliness. The tablet then created her hometown and made her experience the event leading her to all this. A planet crashing down the Earth and the father trying to save the girl with a high tech spacecraft. She finally gets a message after all these years and it was from her father...turns out that the last human in existence is floating in space in a comatose state, seemingly never to wake up again.

It certainly was tragic now that I think of it... :'(








 
Oct 19, 2016 10:34 AM

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Not really good. The song didn't leave an impact for me but the art is outstanding (considering it's from A-1 Pictures which their works recently suck).

After all, the best short anime for me still Tsumiki no Ie. The story telling of that anime is really great.

Finally for this short anime, give 7/10. Art is really the best one here. Story? not really
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Oct 19, 2016 10:44 AM

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"How to take talent and turn it into something bland."
You can see there were some talented people behind this animation, but overall it was nothing special.
I guess that is A-1 pictures in a nutshell though...
 
Oct 19, 2016 10:56 AM

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For a six minute music video with little dialogue, it was nicely done.
The scenes with her and her faster were so sweet… (in general I'd like to see better representation of father-daughter relationships in anime)


i can feel the detritus lifting.

 
Oct 19, 2016 11:01 AM
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This was stunning. I don't actually like this kind of music but I enjoyed it none-the-less. The story was great and the animation was gorgeous. I'd watch it again in a heartbeat.
Short and sweet.
 
Oct 19, 2016 11:03 AM

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For 6 minutes, i am content with the amount of story it was able to deliver.

Not sure why the rating is so high, it's good but nothing amazing, felt like a music video with a little more to it.
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Oct 19, 2016 11:08 AM

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Someone translated the message that CR forgot to do. Now this anime is ten times more sadder... ; . ;

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Oct 19, 2016 11:09 AM

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Some scenes that catch my attention.

 
Oct 19, 2016 12:12 PM

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Okay I rewatched it and after stumbling around a bit, my views about it changed.

The animation is amazing. Makes the video highly rewatchable. And the song is pretty good, it brings out the feels well.

Now the story is. At first I thought it was trying too hard, but then I realized that it was just conveying as much as it could in 6 mins. Despite that, there were lots of little details which can be picked up in only 2-3 listens, so it makes it a success. I'm interested in how it would continue. Reading the lyrics of the song, the girl is definitely up to something. Some of the theories I read were really interesting, too.
Still found the whole father sending the daughter to live alone for God-knows-how-many-years to be a bit wrong. He did it with good intentions, his fatherly instincts took over I guess. Maybe he wanted her to grow up to be at least 18, an adult before the reveal comes up.

Definitely 8+
 
Oct 19, 2016 12:19 PM

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"Oh, a music video with mean score over 8? This must be something really good. And there's even Kanamewo in Reccomendations. Must watch fast."

"Studios: A-1 Pictures"

Oh for fuck's sake, was there ever a good drama made by A-1? The story was boring, the music was boring, the animaion was average. Especially the music, it was so... uninteresting. There are much more interesting anime MVs out there and this doesn't deserve it's rating at all.
You all need to watch Nami.

 
Oct 19, 2016 12:28 PM

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abystoma2 said:
"Oh, a music video with mean score over 8? This must be something really good. And there's even Kanamewo in Reccomendations. Must watch fast."

"Studios: A-1 Pictures"

Oh for fuck's sake, was there ever a good drama made by A-1? The story was boring, the music was boring, the animaion was average. Especially the music, it was so... uninteresting. There are much more interesting anime MVs out there and this doesn't deserve it's rating at all.
don't blame the studio for the writing, dummy
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
 
Oct 19, 2016 12:31 PM

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don't blame the studio for the writing, dummy

I know it was more the directors (or whoever made the script) fault, it's just that statistically A-1 is the mark of bad drama, so it kinda killed my hype.
You all need to watch Nami.

 
Oct 19, 2016 12:32 PM

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Porter coming outta nowhere with A-1 making something decent again l0l

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Oct 19, 2016 12:34 PM

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That was average at best. Really don't understand the hype..
 
Oct 19, 2016 12:57 PM

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Visuals were fairly good.
Song was meh.
Definitely trying to gun for feelz.
It's ok. At this point, the word "overrated" would suit the video best.

For the question, is it anime or not? Nope. It's a music video.
 
Oct 19, 2016 12:59 PM

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I don't get the hate behind it. Big forum discussion about it(was removed what the heck?) and decided to watch it. It's the first music "anime" that I watched. I gave it a 9/10
I don't really know how to critique something this short, but it has great visuals, great music, the music went fairly well with the visuals, I don't get the whole "bad drama" people are talking about. It's a 6 minute music video I guess people are comparing the plot and storytelling to of something like code Geass.

Seriously, someone who thinks this video is no good, link me to a music 6 minute anime that you would describe as incredible so I have something to compare this video to
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Oct 19, 2016 1:00 PM
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The song isn't bad, the animation seems nice.
Disliked the story behind it when I tried to understand the story.

Isolated for 7 years and more because of dads egoism, I don't want that!
It's darker than SOMA imho
 
Oct 19, 2016 1:05 PM

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Josef27 said:
The song isn't bad, the animation seems nice.
Disliked the story behind it when I tried to understand the story.

Isolated for 7 years and more because of dads egoism, I don't want that!
It's darker than SOMA imho


Felt more like "The Matrix" more than anything else.
 
Oct 19, 2016 1:16 PM

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I'm thinking this could be a nice double episode (48 minute) ONA which goes into more details about Rin's world and how she came into that. The video was done very well and did a good overview about her and her world. Now I want to see more of it.

Yes, the idea of living inside a computer world has been overdone, but this has a different feel because it was based off a surviving alone vs. either choosing or being "kidnapped".


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Ew, the song is horrible.
I wouldn't call it horrible than it's not that good. It's not the best song I ever heard put to a video. It felt more like mood music to elicit emotions, much like music in movies.
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What if the Hokey Pokey is what it is all about?

 
Oct 19, 2016 1:17 PM

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I'm thinking this could be a nice double episode (48 minute) ONA which goes into more details about Rin's world and how she came into that. The video was done very well and did a good overview about her and her world. Now I want to see more of it.

Yes, the idea of living inside a computer world has been overdone, but this has a different feel because it was based off a surviving alone vs. either choosing or being "kidnapped".
I think a single episode would be enough if it is that length. What do you mean being "kidnapped"?
 
Oct 19, 2016 1:22 PM

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I think a single episode would be enough if it is that length. What do you mean being "kidnapped"?
I was inferring to the first arc of SAO.

I guess the length could be debated with how much detail they want to put into it. I can't see it being told in just one 24 minute episode.
What if the Hokey Pokey is what it is all about?

 
Oct 19, 2016 1:23 PM

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That was pretty good. Reminded me of the game SOMA.

So is she the last human? I think she is. I feel like death would've been a better option. What can she do?
 
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sbyrstall said:
WisestOne said:
I think a single episode would be enough if it is that length. What do you mean being "kidnapped"?
I was inferring to the first arc of SAO.

I guess the length could be debated with how much detail they want to put into it. I can't see it being told in just one 24 minute episode.
I agree with the length. I thought you meant two 48 minute episodes, not two 24 minute episodes.
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So is she the last human? I think she is. I feel like death would've been a better option. What can she do?
She was went off into deep space alone. She is basically just floating around until her body dies, which who knows how long it will last? I think death would have been the better option by a long shot.
 
Oct 19, 2016 1:39 PM

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IT WAS TOUCHING. I've watched it at least 5 times and teared up every time. However it does leave me feeling a little hollow and brings forth some questions.

One of them is, if she is in a virtual simulator that allows her to create whatever she wants, why is she incapable of creating a virtual companion for herself to chase the loneliness away, even if its only temporary? Did her father not have enough time to implement a feature for that before the world would end? Or did he just not think of it? Its a bit cruel that he doomed his child to seemingly an eternity of loneliness ( T least until her eventual death. She is human, after all ) even though he meant well with his intentions. She would have been better off dying with him, so then they would at least have each other in death.

(I'm also wondering how she's still alive, especially after 7 years. Does the machine pump her full of the nutrients and things she needs to keep her alive?? But I guess that's not important )

Its even sadder at the end because now that she knows of her origins and that what's lost will never be brought back, she'll be even lonelier than before and for the rest of her existence.

It was a very bittersweet story and ending, but touching all the same. Ahh, also leaves me wondering what would happen if an asteroid crashes into her ship. Did he plan for that as well? I guess we weren't supposed to think about it in depth since its only a 6 minute short but still.
 
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porter robinson should stick to producing crappy music
 
Oct 19, 2016 1:54 PM

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Nano1124 said:
That was pretty good. Reminded me of the game SOMA.

So is she the last human? I think she is. I feel like death would've been a better option. What can she do?


I think that at 5:31 you can see a trajectory leading to some solar system.

Maybe her dad sent her to another planet?

https://youtu.be/fzQ6gRAEoy0?t=331
 
Oct 19, 2016 2:14 PM
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damn, need more episode or movie
 
Oct 19, 2016 2:36 PM

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That was sad but yet beautiful short. Stunning visuals and catchy music.

But the thought of sending someone to space with no clear destination whatsoever and which may feel like eternity, sounds way more cruel to me than spending rest of the final moments with your beloved ones :((
 
Oct 19, 2016 2:57 PM

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Man, that was so stunning and sad. Who would've thought you could deliver all of that in six minutes? Stunning animation, art and visuals, and the music was nice.

Stunning music video. 9/10. This would make for a great movie or something similar honestly.
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Oct 19, 2016 3:39 PM

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WisestOne said:
Seriously, someone who thinks this video is no good, link me to a music 6 minute anime that you would describe as incredible so I have something to compare this video to

How about you watch Interstella?
 
Oct 19, 2016 3:39 PM

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Boring.
I feel bad about that girl, but the music was really bad.
 
Oct 19, 2016 4:07 PM

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Nice art/animation. Music didn't really fit in, then again its brostep so it never fits in. Since it's a short, plot didn't really flesh out.

5/10.
 
Oct 19, 2016 4:24 PM
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WisestOne said:
Seriously, someone who thinks this video is no good, link me to a music 6 minute anime that you would describe as incredible so I have something to compare this video to

How about you watch Interstella?


To be fair, that is 65 minutes, or 11x the length of Shelter.
 
Oct 19, 2016 5:00 PM

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I mean, I think people forget this is a music video.. It was good. Nothing out of this world, but it wasn't bad either. The music was not my taste. The animation and colors were nice.
This shouldn't've been a music video imo
 
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This was really underwhelming.

The story wasn't developed nearly enough to build any sort of connection, yet the addition of dialogue and the father's letter make it such an integrated part of the music video that I don't think it can be dismissed in favor of a purely audiovisual experience either. This would've been a lot better had they left out the story elements entirely-- or the very least the aforementioned dialogue, letter, etc..

As is it comes off as cheap feelsbait.
 
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let's be honest here this was complete garbage. This kind of thing done right can be amazing and this one felt like it just tried to copy those before by it by making it look good but without putting any real thought or effort into it. Try watching Interstella5555, ME!ME!ME!, Furiko or Tsumiki no Ie instead.
 
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I enjoy Porter Robinson's music since he showed up on MrSuicideSheep and GalaxyMusic channel but I didn't knew he was an anime fan! So cool!! I'm in love with the concept, music, character... Everything!

5/5
 
Oct 19, 2016 6:46 PM

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It was so good! I love the story and how beautiful it was!
 
Oct 19, 2016 7:04 PM

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Seriously, someone who thinks this video is no good, link me to a music 6 minute anime that you would describe as incredible so I have something to compare this video to
Muse: Exogenesis Symphony Part III , the video clip used it self called furiko...
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