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| Another great episode. |
Neromon said: Yes, they are evil... from our point of view. I'm sure the Nazis didn't think of themselves as evil, and that they didn't behave like stereotypical villains. My complaint was that the way the anime portrayed them, from their faces and the way they talked, it was clearly intended to tell the viewer "look, these are the bad guys". "Yes, unfortunately. The air bombing couldn't finish the job alone... You win this bet" says the Germanian officer to his superior, with a broad smile on his face. It's a minor issue but so far it seems reflective of the simplistic nature of the narrative. Not this bs again. Neromon said: Yes, they are evil... from our point of view. I'm sure the Nazis didn't think of themselves as evil, and that they didn't behave like stereotypical villains. Im sure Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge didn't think themselves as evil either when they killed 15% of Cambodias population nor Stalin after he ordered the widespread starvation of the USSR resulting in the loss of 20 million people. Fun fact, modern depictions of evil villainous organisations are based off the nazis, it's been that way since 1945, and having the nazis believing that their absurd racist and genocidal political beliefs were not evil and completely justified does not have any bearing on the fact that 95% of the worlds population acknowledges that by our modern day standards the nazis were through and through completely evil. Neromon said: My complaint was that the way the anime portrayed them, from their faces and the way they talked, it was clearly intended to tell the viewer "look, these are the bad guys". What a shocking revelations, the bad guys in the story are the bad guys and even more shockingly! The bad guys are based off real life bad guys! My god how completely shocking. Germania and it's real life counterpart Nazi Germany are different yes, could the studio have gone a different route and not mimic the nazi's tyrannical and unjustified aggression against it's neighbors? Maybe, but that's not the direction they decided to take. It's clear that Germania are the unjustified aggressors committing seemingly unlawful executions of civilians and unwarranted aggression of neutral countries. Honestly I fail to see what the problem is. Neromon said: "Yes, unfortunately. The air bombing couldn't finish the job alone... You win this bet" says the Germanian officer to his superior, with a broad smile on his face. I don't see how this honestly depicts Germanian commanders any different to the regular snobbish military commander. It's a common stereotype not just limited to 'bad guys'. |
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| Best episode so far. The beginning showed how crude war can be. Making tough decisions must hard for the princess. Izetta was a badass when she was fighting those tanks and planes. The music was awesome as well. I especially loved the part when the soldiers started singing at the end. It was beautiful. |
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| Fucking amazing episode, hands down. So far this show's one of my top favorites of this season so far. |
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Tyrel said: Bl4ckR4bbi7 said: No, it's not. If it is, it's some broken German.The song in the ending was so pleasant to hear, is that a german song? german with a super heavy japanese accent and probably broken grammar. ...grenzenden Bergen weht unsere Fahne stolz im Wind Oh Eylstadt die xxx der Alpen .... der Ewigkeit .... then later Oh Eylstadt Hüter der Berge.... stark is also in there Great episode loved how izetta fought but this episode also made me want a new series about war without any magical elements |
xSanoxOct 15, 2016 2:51 PM
| Episode was fantastic 10/10. That fight scene with Izetta was just amazingly epic, and the music really just seemed perfect for the scene. The music had the epic feel to it, but at the same time it was like saying no need to fear anymore, everything will be fine and we will get through this. This episode made me tear up a bit. |
| I am become bunny, fluffing of worlds. |
| I knew this show will epic, i just hope they won't mess up the ending. This episode however, was simply amazing. |
xSanox said: Yeah... Basically impossible to translate then lol. You could make out some of it but then you'd be missing bits and pieces xD.Tyrel said: No, it's not. If it is, it's some broken German. german with a super heavy japanese accent and probably broken grammar. ...grenzenden Bergen weht unsere Fahne stolz im Wind Oh Eylstadt die xxx der Alpen .... der Ewigkeit .... then later Oh Eylstadt Hüter der Berge.... stark is also in there Great episode loved how izetta fought but this episode also made me want a new series about war without any magical elements |
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HereComesTheSnow said: Neromon said: Yes, they are evil... from our point of view. I'm sure the Nazis didn't think of themselves as evil, and that they didn't behave like stereotypical villains. My complaint was that the way the anime portrayed them, from their faces and the way they talked, it was clearly intended to tell the viewer "look, these are the bad guys". "Yes, unfortunately. The air bombing couldn't finish the job alone... You win this bet" says the Germanian officer to his superior, with a broad smile on his face. It's a minor issue but so far it seems reflective of the simplistic nature of the narrative. Not this bs again. Neromon said: Yes, they are evil... from our point of view. I'm sure the Nazis didn't think of themselves as evil, and that they didn't behave like stereotypical villains. Im sure Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge didn't think themselves as evil either when they killed 15% of Cambodias population nor Stalin after he ordered the widespread starvation of the USSR resulting in the loss of 20 million people. Fun fact, modern depictions of evil villainous organisations are based off the nazis, it's been that way since 1945, and having the nazis believing that their absurd racist and genocidal political beliefs were not evil and completely justified does not have any bearing on the fact that 95% of the worlds population acknowledges that by our modern day standards the nazis were through and through completely evil. Neromon said: My complaint was that the way the anime portrayed them, from their faces and the way they talked, it was clearly intended to tell the viewer "look, these are the bad guys". What a shocking revelations, the bad guys in the story are the bad guys and even more shockingly! The bad guys are based off real life bad guys! My god how completely shocking. Germania and it's real life counterpart Nazi Germany are different yes, could the studio have gone a different route and not mimic the nazi's tyrannical and unjustified aggression against it's neighbors? Maybe, but that's not the direction they decided to take. It's clear that Germania are the unjustified aggressors committing seemingly unlawful executions of civilians and unwarranted aggression of neutral countries. Honestly I fail to see what the problem is. Neromon said: "Yes, unfortunately. The air bombing couldn't finish the job alone... You win this bet" says the Germanian officer to his superior, with a broad smile on his face. I don't see how this honestly depicts Germanian commanders any different to the regular snobbish military commander. It's a common stereotype not just limited to 'bad guys'. It's not about historical depiction. As someone else said, it shows lack of effort in the narrative. For a story to be good in a series like this, you shouldn't go for a black-and-white depiction. And the incompetency of a commander cliche is a very bad cliche because it gives no suspense. Same reason why people here fear Izetta is too strong. There won't be suspense. |
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Neromon said: Guess I was too optimistic about this anime, so far just mediocre war drama imo. This episode has some cool animation in the second half though. I especially didn't like how it frames the German officers as plain villains, this's as simplistic as you can get for this type of story. its only the start of the anime, this episodes purpose was to show Izetta's power and resolve, we will probably see something else with the villiains later |
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| So far this show is pretty solid. Characters are decent, the show surprisingly has some good action, ost is good and nice art style. While I'm not expecting some huge conflict to completely stop the Germanians, I do expect their country to be saved at the very least which is fine with me. Overall good episode. Pacing is solid. |
zcv45 said: It's not about historical depiction. As someone else said, it shows lack of effort in the narrative. For a story to be good in a series like this, you shouldn't go for a black-and-white depiction. And the incompetency of a commander cliche is a very bad cliche because it gives no suspense. Same reason why people here fear Izetta is too strong. There won't be suspense. I don't see the obvious black and white depiction on who the good and bad guys are as a lack of effort nor does it affect how good a story can be. |
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| Damn Izetta, she's pretty strong. Like the OST a lot. |
| Izetta was badass. The action was pretty good and I hope it stays that way for the rest of its run. I lol'd when the soldier told Izetta not to take the rifle but she flies off with it anyways. |
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| Contrary to everyone, the first half was less entertaining to me... Felt too much like a cheesy war drama. The 2nd half was more action packed not without flaws but it does what this anime advertise itself as. Except the tree crashing scene which felt a bit too cheerful in the middle of a fight. I really though the tank throwing was pretty cool. The only major issue was how they depicted the Germanian high command as your typical villain but make the good guys all heroic and willing to sacrifice. As some one said it felt like a newsreel. In terms of accuracy, and way the angles are shot... No not at all. What does feel like a newsreel is the depiction of the two sides. Black and white just like the films back in the day. It is nice to know and like both sides and gives more depth |
zcv45Oct 15, 2016 3:51 PM
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| Unlimited Izetta Works |
HereComesTheSnow said: zcv45 said: It's not about historical depiction. As someone else said, it shows lack of effort in the narrative. For a story to be good in a series like this, you shouldn't go for a black-and-white depiction. And the incompetency of a commander cliche is a very bad cliche because it gives no suspense. Same reason why people here fear Izetta is too strong. There won't be suspense. I don't see the obvious black and white depiction on who the good and bad guys are as a lack of effort nor does it affect how good a story can be. I see it that way. It doesn't give the villains any depth. For me I would like to know them more than just the other side. Since WW2 was brought up prior, similar thing applies. The Nazis are bad, however there are also many officers and soldiers that aren't. We all know the history and but doesn't mean we just say everyone in that country is bad. The same thing here. They are bad, we get that. But you don't need to make their troops all snobby incompetent arses. This is where Valkyria chronicles succeeded. The Imperial Alliance did some bad things and have reasons that can't justify it. That's how we know they are bad. But their commanders aren't your typical pure evil villain that does it for lulz. Some are but most are not. That makes the series stand out more. Both follow a very similar premise. The difference is how it is executed. One is a simple black-and-white which can still be good. But the other takes a step further. And even for one-time villains, changing their personality can make a huge difference. it is the little things that matter. You combine the little things and it can make or break the series. It is like camera angles. Why certain fights are less intense than others even with the same budget. |
zcv45Oct 15, 2016 4:07 PM
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| Izetta is one man army lol no need for other soldiers just send her.... Nice episode Everyone speaking about how she is op maybe there will be a downside or a limit to her power, last fight she lost it in the middle of the battle, the enemy captured her befour so they may do it again. And what fanservice!!! They are not showing her panty to be a fan service. |
AlhakamOct 17, 2016 8:09 AM
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| Pros: Music was on point Drama and Realism was great Action was amazing Cons: Izetta fanservice (seriously, the amount of ass shots in this episode was just blatantly unnecessary) 3.5/5 |
| Don't believe the hype. |
| Oh man, I loved this episode! First the harsh reality of war, death, hopelessness and then Izetta comes and BAAAMMM! Her battle against the German... nians was epic! I liked how she wasn't slaughtering the enemy unnecessarily. She could have killed all the footsoldiers with those swords, but she focused on the tanks instead, disabling them. Also... YURI! Damn, the way Fine embraces Izetta screams "I LOVE YOU, PLEASE STAY BY MY SIDE FOREVER". I hope Izetta realizes her true feelings too and gets rid of the her low self-esteem. Please make it happen soon, pleeeaaaseee! Xenocrisi said: Unlimited Izetta Works Haha, Gate of Izetton! |
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zcv45 said: HereComesTheSnow said: I don't see the obvious black and white depiction on who the good and bad guys are as a lack of effort nor does it affect how good a story can be. I see it that way. It doesn't give the villains any depth. For me I would like to know them more than just the other side. Since WW2 was brought up prior, similar thing applies. The Nazis are bad, however there are also many officers and soldiers that aren't. We all know the history and but doesn't mean we just say everyone in that country is bad. The same thing here. They are bad, we get that. But you don't need to make their troops all snobby incompetent arses. This is where Valkyria chronicles succeeded. The Imperial Alliance did some bad things and have reasons that can't justify it. That's how we know they are bad. But their commanders aren't your typical pure evil villain that does it for lulz. Some are but most are not. That makes the series stand out more. Both follow a very similar premise. The difference is how it is executed. One is a simple black-and-white which can still be good. But the other takes a step further. And even for one-time villains, changing their personality can make a huge difference. it is the little things that matter. You combine the little things and it can make or break the series. It is like camera angles. Why certain fights are less intense than others even with the same budget. Ah I see what you mean. I probably should have referenced that when I mean to say that Germania is the bad guys it's in reference to the countries political leadership and not necessarily to the average civilian or soldier. But I disagree in that I don't think the show has portrayed all their troops as snobby incompetent arses, the discourse between fatso and the air commander is definitely portrays them as snobbish but not incompetent. It does seem that seem that the Germanian commanders we've met so far 'Gold lugar guy, fatso, air commander etc' come off as stereotypical tropey but I believe this is merely because their a one episode deal and we won't see them again. Germanians such as the pilot that survived the encounter with Izetta is one such character that doesn't really follow the same character type and im sure we'll see more of him in the future that doesn't seemingly present him in a way that's black and white. |
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| dem booty shorts were strong in this one |
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| Eh, I don't know. I'll admit Izetta looked pretty badass. I don't know what was the point of the fan service when they were attempting to show how gruesome the war is, made it feel kind of ridiculous. I'm not a fan of Izetta being a trump card when everything doesn't go well. I was hopping for a stronger overall narrative, but I can't take this story seriously. I guess I'll stick around for the pretty colors... I did like some of the first half though, it was fairly typical. I mean I would've cared more if I already hadn't predicted that Izetta would OP the fuck out of everyone later on when everything got bad. |
| I thought this was very well done. The bloodshed and massacre was great. Having that one random soldier showing death flags all over the place. Fine and the soldiers that are with her are in despair as Izetta watches on, wanting to do something. Izetta finally decided to take matters into her own hands. And it was glorious. Though I agree with the tank flipping being an eye roll and the fight animation isn't the greatest, it was still great to watch. This is how you want good vs evil to go down. Good is being pummeled by Evil until someone changes the tide of war with Good overcoming an uphill battle. In terms of simple story telling, this episode did it right. Fine's soldier is getting dominated through out the episode, building up to us wondering if Izetta will attack or not. When hope is at an all time low, Izetta makes the save in the final moments of the episode. Though it's nothing that will stand out in the minds of everyone, it does set the mood for the rest of the series for the soldiers and adds more storylines. Will Fine put faith in Izetta and have her fight? Or will she refuse to put her good friend in the line of fire? How will she feel if Izetta does fight for her? Will Izetta survive in a full scale war? How will the Germanians counter Izetta? It's possible since they had her in their grasps before. 4/5- Simple storytelling that delivered in spades. Izetta is so fucking adorable. Though I wish the fight animation was more vibrant coming from a witch. It could be the setting since it's day time so I'm hoping in a battle at night will make her abilities look more colorful and beautiful. |
TehSnawnOct 15, 2016 6:53 PM
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| Izetta fighting scene was such a joy to watch. I watched it over and over again..... I love fan service, but it was unnecessary and weird in some parts of this episode. |
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| Finally the episode i've been waiting for!!! It was so great to see Izetta in action, she is so badass and cute at the same time :3 But it's also sad to see the war happening and watching the soldiers without hope, just dying to win some time... :( But it's the sad reality of war. I put high hopes in this anime, hope it will be as great as this episode was. |
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| This was a really good episode, but I feel like this anime shot itself in the foot. Izetta is just too powerful. Nothing on the battlefield could come close to hurting her. I thought the tanks would prove a challenge and she would have to get inventive and use the help of the regular soldiers, but she could throw them around like rag-dolls so it didn't matter. This becomes a problem because the story has left itself no more room to grow as things stand now. No battle will be able to match how tense this one was in the beginning, because we know Izetta can single handedly defeat the Germanians. The only way there will be any tension in the future is if the bad guys find a way to counter a witch. I also found it jarring to see such effort to show the military equipment and tactics as historically accurately as possible, but then to show the Germanian officers as lazy and far from the battle. The German military was great because the had a great officer corps that could use their equipment to achieve the best possible effects. German Commanders were close to the front so they could make critical decisions to maintain the tempo. Blitzkrieg worked because the German military wouldn't stop once it made a breakthrough, and it requires generals near the battle to make the necessary decisions to keep the army moving forward. |
| even tho this is military anime, i still enjoy it, just like I did with Heavy Object the animation is pretty fluid tho, the appearance of Izzeta was so badass I may understand the people who don't like this setting, they might be wanting a realistic war story... but they should already knew this was far from that by the very first lenght of the first episode tho |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| another great episode 7/5 .. izetta is so gaddamn badass here and pretty cute too specially when she bump in the branches lol .. get a girl who can throw tanks eh .. |
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| Izetta the Valkyrie of the battlefield seriously thought she was gonna start impaling people with all those blades |
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| I love the first half of the episode, where Fine decline the soldier request to go to front line.. damn that was actually touch me abit :') second half is okay the fan services are awkwardly done |
| I want to play as her in Battlefield 1. Would OP asf but fun as hell XD Also the fanservice god, it's like Heavy Object all over again except in Heavy Object it was intentional. I don't get why they try hard to express War is hell then a second later there's a butt shots which ruins the whole damn mood. |
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| lol @ SJWs complaining about fanservice. Good episode, though it makes me wish there was more historically accurate trench warfare type anime without any sort of magic. I know that's not what anime is for though, but it'd still be cool to see. This season is really garbage in general so Izetta definitely stands out among most of the other shows. |
| Izetta kicked their asses! |
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| I don't care about fear and sorrow in the usual war drama s*** or Fine's antique or Izetta's OP But the victory scene is just sick! (even if the German... is half-arsed.) I wonder where they will take this. Will they go far enough to induce reality that witch or something of the sort is usually got rid off by human governmental system once their usefulness runs out? |
Revvie-chanOct 15, 2016 10:15 PM
| Great episode! Definitely the best so far! And Holy Hell, Izeta is Fucking BadAss!! |
| Good episode and the 2nd half was great.Really nice fight from Izetta :) |
| gruesome reality of war .. and izetta shows how much of a badass she can be... I came to the painful realization ... Izetta was shunned by the very people who she is trying to protect.... I don't want to think what may happen to her after the war... you knew ... in the end only the princess is on her side |
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| She's OP. 1 man army trope confirmed. Besides powerful telekinesis, it seems she's able to cast protective auras around the things and objects she enchants. Imbued bullets also seem very destructive (able to blow up a tank in 1 shot). What I wonder is how long she can last while engaged in combat. In EP 1, it's shown she can run out of juice. Whatever that juice is, whether simple physical stamina and mental fatigue, or the more rudimentary "magical energy" (mana), is yet to be shown. Evidently, she has enough power to not only wipe out a squadron of planes, but to also toss around freaking tanks like they were toys. I think she's an asset best used as strategically as possible, because she would be overwhelmed if sent out alone. Send her in to throw the enemy ranks into chaos, while the main units back her up and kill off the confused soldiers. Oh, pretty music too. This anime's gotten a whole lot more promising! |
| She too OP. lol. No matter the anime the panzer III gets the job done ... sad it cant beat a magical girl though |
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| Those action scenes were so awesome. Especially those by Izetta! |
| Cute is justice. |
| The OST is amazing and the action scenes are really well done, Im really enjoying this anime :) |
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